Ex-KLA members to face Belgrade judge

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

Did you really think the Serbian people are just going to pack up and leave Kosovo and forget all the crimes committed against us?
It is the Serbs that are re-grouping now and its Serbian blood that is boiling whereas the ALbo's put all their hope in the US of A and they ain't coming to the rescue. Serbia will be back and stronger!

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008, 11:28)


Are you for real. So, Serbia should just let these killers go about their business like nothing has happened. I hope this is just a chip of the iceberg. We need to arrest and prosecute all of those terrorist KLA members and especially their leaders.

This is good news. Every time war criminals are caught, it is good to hear. There is nothing worse than armed soldiers killing and torturing unarmed, innocent civilians. Whatever their nationality may be, if they commited crimes against innocent people, they are war criminals and must be punished by the authorities.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

@ Mospyt; I support Kosovo's independence, but I believe that these men should be tried for their crimes. This is only fair, regardless if war crimes were committed against the Kosovo people. Two wrongs do not make a right. They must face the consequences of murdering and kidnapping people.

Also there is no ongoing war. It would be like saying that WW2 is still continuing today because former Nazi's are still been tried for war crimes.

These former KLA men committed war crimes and must face justice. Just like the Serbs who committed war crimes must also face justice. This is only fair.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!

I'm glad that it's not 1981 when Nish and other prisons throughout Serbia were full of Albanian protesters and activists (my brother's father in law one of them).

Serbia is trying to match Albanian freedom fighters with her cold blooded killers who walk freely in Serbia today. Who's going to buy this dirty game anyway?.

I wonder why they couldn't do this when they were wearing KLA uniforms.

The Hague(international community) have already said NO to my question. I'm not asking for Serbian opinion because I know the answer!.

Why are the albanains so quick do dismiss that these guys could and most likely are pathetic disgusting evil criminals?? do you even know the guys arrested or are you just delusional and think that no albanian has done anything wrong throughout their history of Serbian land occupation? IF this was Thacy that was arrested then would you still deny any allegations even though there was arrest warrants for him before the war? btw... you all claim albanian innocence but could you please tell me why Serbia sent in the army during the war? i already know the answer im going to get from the albanains on this forum... "Serbia just woke up one day and decided to go kill Albanians"....

a "spectacular" arrest!! it only firms up the believe of the Serbian politics towards its neigbours in the Ballkans. A suspect is a suspect and is inocent until proven guilty in the court of law and should be treated with dignity. I suspect that normally history repeats itself and it just shows that Democracy really will never happen in Serbia.

Shame on you.

For once, I agree completely with Peter Sudyka (comment 6).

The only shame is that they were not apprehended earlier. If they are innocent, the court will release them. If they are guilty, they should rot in prison for the rest of their days.

Now, how about catching Mladic too?

But local Albanians were saying that the Gendarmes used "unnecessary force"

This sounds familiar! Think I heard it in 1999 and we all know what happend then.
Good thing they were caught. Word is they were planing disturbances in Presevo. Albanians are far from finished with their land grabing. Presevo is nr 2 on their list.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

If you are Albanian - you cannot kill/rape/torture 100-something Serb civilians without being seriously arrested. Maybe, you will be even jailed. What a horrible, discriminative place Serbia is. Clearly, you should get a Nobel Price instead. But wait, they weren't that far away from that this year with that mafiosi from Finland.

Even worse. I was in hurry and driving a USA license plate car with 60 mph (100 km/h). MUP arrested me because the speed limit was 60 km/h. Nothing serious, but it wasn't pleasant. Clearly, this is a proof, they are ethnically biased against Americans! Next time I jaywalk in Belgrade - and land up in Hague?

"Interior Minister Ivica Dačić was in the area to personally oversee the operation, and said that it went smoothly, with video cameras recording its progress."

Serbian economy is collapsing, the army and defense are in shambles (see previous Politika /B92 stories,) you just gave away NIS for nothing so how do you distract Serbs? Arrest 10 Albanians for something they 'did' 10 years ago and take lots of pictures for Serbs to see and cheer. Old Slobo trick.

Serbs, remember this story, they are many many Serbs in Kosova who committed crimes against Albanian civilians. If we 'remember' a few or a few hundred, don't complain.

Again, more knee-jerk comments from people with little to nothing to say. As I mentioned yesterday, were these 10 people Serbs arrested in Kosovo by the KPS, the Albanians would be jumping for joy. But because it's one of their own - regardless of how despicable these people may be - it's an infringement of sovereignty, a violation of law, and another example of anti-Albanian activity on part of the Serb race that has existed since the Expulsion from Eden.

I'm reminded of a quote by George Orwell that sums up the mentality of lots of people here: "As nearly as possible, no nationalist ever thinks, talks, or writes about anything except the superiority of his own power unit. It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can relieve only by making some sharp retort."

Ha, Ha Ha.

Now time time to issue arrest warrants for the rest.

Maybe they can be captured in countries sympthetic to an extradition order....

"The three leaders of the group remain at large, and are believed to be living in Kosovo, it was revealed yesterday"

My compliments to Serbia! War criminals need to be persecuted.

Serbia is doing what Kosova should have start doing many years ago.

If someone in WEST that is via UNMNIK was banding or discouraging Kosova to persecute the Serbian war criminals since it could increase the ethnic tensions and relations with Serbia- now they have the PROOF that Serbia doesn’t give a DAMN about it. Now, they will be again with the finger in their mouth. Especially Kosova ;))

If you want to be really independent you have to be able to defend your national interest ABOVE ALL in front of your friends that do not agree with you in certain issues.

However, If Serbia has STRONG evidences about this group WHY they haven’t asked for cooperation from UNMNIK to arrest the leaders of this group AT LEAST??? (probably because of same motivations that UNMNIK has towards K-Albanian requests- but Serbia is truly independent country and in her territory can act as it wish- Kosova NO ).
FULL SOVREIGNITY NOW! BUT no one is giving to you the sovereignty- you take it and show ABOVE ALL to your FRIENDS that you are FULLY CAPABLE to be sovereign- maybe then countries will recognise you as well.

The missing cooperation with UNMNIK and Hague above all is a good question for the Serbian war crime pers. instead of putting the microphone in his mouth so he could say his moral and responsible judgments that "he cannot reveal the nature of crimes because it would jeopardise the ethnic relations".

The ‘stories’ of the brutality later AFTER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PROVED, before that, you tale us CONCRETE issues as why you are NOT asking for cooperation from Hague and/or UNMNIK- since you have iron evidences????

Each time I hear the people of the Serbian war crime persecutor office talking they sound to me as PILITICIANS not as PERSECUTORS.
Hand the case to HAGUE- do not politicise it as you always do Serbia.

I would ask those Posters who think that this action was inappropriate to answer the following questions:

1. Do you think that any KLA member has committed any crime ever?

2. If the answer is yes, do you think that those who committed a crime should be held accountable?

The action was transparent and the level of international scrutiny is such that the accused will not be declared guilty without hard evidence. It is naive to think that this action was done without international support, as Serbian government has learnt the lesson well.

Continue wasting your time Serbia. Serb authorities probably thought: heck, we're in the Hague all the time for genocide. How bout we round up some Albanians, call it "Belgrade justice", and be happy for once.

lol. Kosova is gone forever my friends. These arrests were just a show to appease the Serb population. They know that Jeremic and Co. have failed, so let's make ourselves feel a little bit better by arresting EX-Kla members from 10 years ago. Sad, but funny nevertheless.

-Greetings from Albania!

@ Ian, UK

I agree with you on the terms of them being tried for their crimes (if they have evidences that crimes have really been committed by them), but this is something that should not be done in Serbia! It's the Hague Tribunal who should try them, not the Serbian courts!
So, this is what we are arguing about.

This albanians aren't criminals. It's just a provokative game that Serbia is playing to make albanians angry. Serbia, we wont do somthing stupid to jepordize our new born republic of kosovo.

The war in Kosovo ended 9 years ago. Why diden't you arrest this innocent people then ? you maybe couldent ?


Serbia, Kosovo is independent and there is nothing in the world that you can do. Nobody can help you and yopu will allways lose if you come in troubles with albanians.

just wait when the Kosovar secret police comes into force. You will see all serbian criminals in prison in Dubrava.

But still Kosovo is and will be independent ;)

Peter,

Who told you they are war criminals? Serbian propaganda? Haven't you had enough with Milloshevic propaganda? If Serbia feels really strong about it let the Hague Tribunal to make a judgment. Don't rush into conclusion about "good news" because it can be disappointing news.

Send these guys to The Hague!

And about Serbian economy:

Well, 50 % (!) unemployment in Kosovo. Maybe Albanians in Kosovo province should focus on their own provincial economy!

Kosovo (same goes unfortunately for Albania) is a third world country in Europe. Please forget joining the EU for the coming two decades!

Some posters here said that Albanians are so energetic and practical. Well, then tell me: why Albania was the darkest of the darkest among communist nations?
Why the communist regime felt there years later then in other countries?

And again: why is Albania a third world country?

DISCLAIMER: I am in favour of Albanian (not Kosovo!) joining the EU!

this latest hate-blast ag. albanians here is not appreciated; but let's say that i appreciate the "honesty" of the emotion.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
usa
(roberto, 27 December 2008 21:09)

Roberto,

Do you know that a good number (maybe the majority?) of the "pekara" in Serbia are Albanian-owned? Same applies to money exchange booth owners. I did not see much hate-blasts against them. Sure, there were/are some issues but these Albanian businesses are in general well-respected.

Most "hate-blasts" are towards certain UCK members who are suspected to kill/torture/rape a hundred-something Serb civilians. Wonder, why.

What can you expect!

Reservists that FOUGHT in Kosovo are free to protest in Serbia, are free to block the roads and put "pressure" on the Serbian Government. Some kids that propably did nothing have to be detained in front of the cameras.
What can you expect!

I am convinced that the real reason the K Albanians are upset is that now they have 10 less future leaders to choose from.

Roberto - I'm sure Serbia will at the very least meet out justice on a par with the USA's "justice" for it's Guantanamo inmates. I'm sure Serbia will have no objections to following the world's greatest democracy and upholder of justice in it's treatment of these people.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

How dare Albanians go on killing, terrorizing and torturing Serbs for a very long time.
That's why Serbian had to send in troops to stop you people.

Here we go again. Serbs started again war against albanians. Ivica Dacic he just look like Milosevic. He is Milosevic Student. It is still fresh in our minds the way albanians were pushed on self defence. Was same way as now accusing them that ar terrorists and they found one small gun and they planed to kill serbian nation with one gun. That gun probably was puted there by "Serbian Police read serbian terror". This is the reason to make another ethnik cleansing of three municipalities populated by albanians. Next step will be pushing albanians from there to escape and leave their homes and property.

Your line "it is not that I don't trust the Serbian justice system, but I don't. What the hell does that mean? You will go on the defense of Albanians no matter what they have done are accused of done.

You don't even want Albanians to stand a trial because you are so worried that they will be found guilty. How can you sleep at night knowing that there are Albanians out there who have committed horrible crimes against the Serbs and other non Albanians and yet you direct your anger towards the people who arrest them?

You are worse than the Albanians here. At least they are Albanian and they simply don't want to know the truth about their own but you a sa "Jew", which I highly suspect you are have no reason to be so blind.

None of us know for sure the truth about these horrible allegations, but we do know quite a bit about yr beloved MUP, headed by yr beloved milosevic's dear pal, who still cannot seem to locate yr beloved mr mladic (yet found dr. david, by accident!) just don't get me started.

i am assuming these defendants will be on trial at the hague which has at least intl standards, imperfect as it is.

it is not that i don't trust your so-called justice system inside serbia; but i don't. and with very good reason.

this latest hate-blast ag. albanians here is not appreciated; but let's say that i appreciate the "honesty" of the emotion.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
usa

Why are the albanains so quick do dismiss that these guys could and most likely are pathetic disgusting evil criminals??
why?
Just because if really things were as you put them ,you would not have let them free under your nose,in serbia proper up to now!
these "criminals"were free in serbia!!!!Not in kosova but in serbiadespite the "fakt" that they have killed ,according to your story,hundreds of serbs.Do you find it credible ?
Of course you do not too!

You might NOT publish this because of what I wrote, but the arrest of ex-KLA/UCK solders is WRONG and this is Beograd Politcs.

Just STOP and think yeah. OK There more than 2000 Kosovan civilans missing since the war 99. This is WRONG.

Serbia needs to show that Kosova/o is still hers, that's why they are arresting these men, which on the contrary of the majority of opinions here, are not yet GULTY, because they have been arrested not sentenced and of course Serbia cannot judge them as they are citizens of another Country/State.
It is purely a show, nothing else, a mean to create noise, nothing else. they can arrest people like foxes in the dark with falsification and false accusations just to make noise, but nothing else.

zivela serbia

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The Serbs are partners with the West when it comes to war on terror and hunting down terrorists and war criminals, including their own Mladich. I just hope that the West cooperates fully with Serbia on the organ harvesting investigation as much as Serbia cooperates with the West on war on terror. If the Albanians continue with their established trend of family members bargaining for reduced sentences of their loved ones, than these ten captured, if convicted and setenced are more than enough to get the snowball rolling. Who knows, it may even lead to more information on the organ harvesting, or even solve the case alltogether. That being, I am not at all surprized at the " how dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!" posters. If I had something on me or my loved ones and didn't want the law to find out I'll be worried and scared too. Especially if these 10 arrested knew something about me that could get me arrested and convicted.

"Those arrested are former KLA members whom the Serbian War Crimes Prosecution BELIEVE were involved in war crimes that included torture and monstrous killings of at least 51 Serb civilians in the Gjilane area after the 1999 war in the province"

I highlighted it "BELIEVE",in civilized countries you don't punish somebody because ur own beliefs,belief it is not a reason to arrest and presecute people,evidence is.
If they did such things how come they didn't arrest them before? can somebody explain,this is ridiculus,and later blame Albanians for tryung to defend their homes getting trashed every time somebody in Serbian presecution belives in something.
Serbia let people live their lives!!!

As the K albs idolise USA, why not video tape these guys being questioned by the waterboard method? This is An interrogation method sanctioned by the USA. Okay, it is only one of many methods sanctioned by the USA. Soften them up with sleep deprivation, loud noise, threatening animals, all legal.

This is a recipe for more conflict and tension. None needed this, as no one believes in Serbian justice especially when it comes to judging the Albanians. And vise versa as well.

This is truly a stupid move, typical balkan style. I am not sure what is exactly that they are trying to prove? Are they trying to prove that they can find Albanian "terrorists" and have them face justice in Serbia? I have heard and seen Serbia do this before ...... and that's how Kosovo was lost.

I am not interested in taking sides, Serbian or Albanian, I just want to know a few facts. How did the Albanians cross into Serbia, presenting papers or whatever you need to do at the crossing point or did they cross without authority? I do not live in that part of the world and my questions may seem odd but it is important for outsiders to understand these things.

The implications of how they crossed are relevant to the whole situation of their arrest.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!

This albanians aren't criminals. It's just a provokative game that Serbia is playing to make albanians angry. Serbia, we wont do somthing stupid to jepordize our new born republic of kosovo.

The war in Kosovo ended 9 years ago. Why diden't you arrest this innocent people then ? you maybe couldent ?


Serbia, Kosovo is independent and there is nothing in the world that you can do. Nobody can help you and yopu will allways lose if you come in troubles with albanians.

just wait when the Kosovar secret police comes into force. You will see all serbian criminals in prison in Dubrava.

But still Kosovo is and will be independent ;)

"Interior Minister Ivica Dačić was in the area to personally oversee the operation, and said that it went smoothly, with video cameras recording its progress."

Serbian economy is collapsing, the army and defense are in shambles (see previous Politika /B92 stories,) you just gave away NIS for nothing so how do you distract Serbs? Arrest 10 Albanians for something they 'did' 10 years ago and take lots of pictures for Serbs to see and cheer. Old Slobo trick.

Serbs, remember this story, they are many many Serbs in Kosova who committed crimes against Albanian civilians. If we 'remember' a few or a few hundred, don't complain.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

Did you really think the Serbian people are just going to pack up and leave Kosovo and forget all the crimes committed against us?
It is the Serbs that are re-grouping now and its Serbian blood that is boiling whereas the ALbo's put all their hope in the US of A and they ain't coming to the rescue. Serbia will be back and stronger!

@ Ian, UK

I agree with you on the terms of them being tried for their crimes (if they have evidences that crimes have really been committed by them), but this is something that should not be done in Serbia! It's the Hague Tribunal who should try them, not the Serbian courts!
So, this is what we are arguing about.

I'm glad that it's not 1981 when Nish and other prisons throughout Serbia were full of Albanian protesters and activists (my brother's father in law one of them).

Serbia is trying to match Albanian freedom fighters with her cold blooded killers who walk freely in Serbia today. Who's going to buy this dirty game anyway?.

I wonder why they couldn't do this when they were wearing KLA uniforms.

The Hague(international community) have already said NO to my question. I'm not asking for Serbian opinion because I know the answer!.

a "spectacular" arrest!! it only firms up the believe of the Serbian politics towards its neigbours in the Ballkans. A suspect is a suspect and is inocent until proven guilty in the court of law and should be treated with dignity. I suspect that normally history repeats itself and it just shows that Democracy really will never happen in Serbia.

Shame on you.

Continue wasting your time Serbia. Serb authorities probably thought: heck, we're in the Hague all the time for genocide. How bout we round up some Albanians, call it "Belgrade justice", and be happy for once.

lol. Kosova is gone forever my friends. These arrests were just a show to appease the Serb population. They know that Jeremic and Co. have failed, so let's make ourselves feel a little bit better by arresting EX-Kla members from 10 years ago. Sad, but funny nevertheless.

-Greetings from Albania!

"The three leaders of the group remain at large, and are believed to be living in Kosovo, it was revealed yesterday"

My compliments to Serbia! War criminals need to be persecuted.

Serbia is doing what Kosova should have start doing many years ago.

If someone in WEST that is via UNMNIK was banding or discouraging Kosova to persecute the Serbian war criminals since it could increase the ethnic tensions and relations with Serbia- now they have the PROOF that Serbia doesn’t give a DAMN about it. Now, they will be again with the finger in their mouth. Especially Kosova ;))

If you want to be really independent you have to be able to defend your national interest ABOVE ALL in front of your friends that do not agree with you in certain issues.

However, If Serbia has STRONG evidences about this group WHY they haven’t asked for cooperation from UNMNIK to arrest the leaders of this group AT LEAST??? (probably because of same motivations that UNMNIK has towards K-Albanian requests- but Serbia is truly independent country and in her territory can act as it wish- Kosova NO ).
FULL SOVREIGNITY NOW! BUT no one is giving to you the sovereignty- you take it and show ABOVE ALL to your FRIENDS that you are FULLY CAPABLE to be sovereign- maybe then countries will recognise you as well.

The missing cooperation with UNMNIK and Hague above all is a good question for the Serbian war crime pers. instead of putting the microphone in his mouth so he could say his moral and responsible judgments that "he cannot reveal the nature of crimes because it would jeopardise the ethnic relations".

The ‘stories’ of the brutality later AFTER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PROVED, before that, you tale us CONCRETE issues as why you are NOT asking for cooperation from Hague and/or UNMNIK- since you have iron evidences????

Each time I hear the people of the Serbian war crime persecutor office talking they sound to me as PILITICIANS not as PERSECUTORS.
Hand the case to HAGUE- do not politicise it as you always do Serbia.

Peter,

Who told you they are war criminals? Serbian propaganda? Haven't you had enough with Milloshevic propaganda? If Serbia feels really strong about it let the Hague Tribunal to make a judgment. Don't rush into conclusion about "good news" because it can be disappointing news.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008, 11:28)


Are you for real. So, Serbia should just let these killers go about their business like nothing has happened. I hope this is just a chip of the iceberg. We need to arrest and prosecute all of those terrorist KLA members and especially their leaders.

Here we go again. Serbs started again war against albanians. Ivica Dacic he just look like Milosevic. He is Milosevic Student. It is still fresh in our minds the way albanians were pushed on self defence. Was same way as now accusing them that ar terrorists and they found one small gun and they planed to kill serbian nation with one gun. That gun probably was puted there by "Serbian Police read serbian terror". This is the reason to make another ethnik cleansing of three municipalities populated by albanians. Next step will be pushing albanians from there to escape and leave their homes and property.

Ha, Ha Ha.

Now time time to issue arrest warrants for the rest.

Maybe they can be captured in countries sympthetic to an extradition order....

What can you expect!

Reservists that FOUGHT in Kosovo are free to protest in Serbia, are free to block the roads and put "pressure" on the Serbian Government. Some kids that propably did nothing have to be detained in front of the cameras.
What can you expect!

None of us know for sure the truth about these horrible allegations, but we do know quite a bit about yr beloved MUP, headed by yr beloved milosevic's dear pal, who still cannot seem to locate yr beloved mr mladic (yet found dr. david, by accident!) just don't get me started.

i am assuming these defendants will be on trial at the hague which has at least intl standards, imperfect as it is.

it is not that i don't trust your so-called justice system inside serbia; but i don't. and with very good reason.

this latest hate-blast ag. albanians here is not appreciated; but let's say that i appreciate the "honesty" of the emotion.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
usa

This is good news. Every time war criminals are caught, it is good to hear. There is nothing worse than armed soldiers killing and torturing unarmed, innocent civilians. Whatever their nationality may be, if they commited crimes against innocent people, they are war criminals and must be punished by the authorities.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

@ Mospyt; I support Kosovo's independence, but I believe that these men should be tried for their crimes. This is only fair, regardless if war crimes were committed against the Kosovo people. Two wrongs do not make a right. They must face the consequences of murdering and kidnapping people.

Also there is no ongoing war. It would be like saying that WW2 is still continuing today because former Nazi's are still been tried for war crimes.

These former KLA men committed war crimes and must face justice. Just like the Serbs who committed war crimes must also face justice. This is only fair.

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

If you are Albanian - you cannot kill/rape/torture 100-something Serb civilians without being seriously arrested. Maybe, you will be even jailed. What a horrible, discriminative place Serbia is. Clearly, you should get a Nobel Price instead. But wait, they weren't that far away from that this year with that mafiosi from Finland.

Even worse. I was in hurry and driving a USA license plate car with 60 mph (100 km/h). MUP arrested me because the speed limit was 60 km/h. Nothing serious, but it wasn't pleasant. Clearly, this is a proof, they are ethnically biased against Americans! Next time I jaywalk in Belgrade - and land up in Hague?

Why are the albanains so quick do dismiss that these guys could and most likely are pathetic disgusting evil criminals??
why?
Just because if really things were as you put them ,you would not have let them free under your nose,in serbia proper up to now!
these "criminals"were free in serbia!!!!Not in kosova but in serbiadespite the "fakt" that they have killed ,according to your story,hundreds of serbs.Do you find it credible ?
Of course you do not too!

You might NOT publish this because of what I wrote, but the arrest of ex-KLA/UCK solders is WRONG and this is Beograd Politcs.

Just STOP and think yeah. OK There more than 2000 Kosovan civilans missing since the war 99. This is WRONG.

Why are the albanains so quick do dismiss that these guys could and most likely are pathetic disgusting evil criminals?? do you even know the guys arrested or are you just delusional and think that no albanian has done anything wrong throughout their history of Serbian land occupation? IF this was Thacy that was arrested then would you still deny any allegations even though there was arrest warrants for him before the war? btw... you all claim albanian innocence but could you please tell me why Serbia sent in the army during the war? i already know the answer im going to get from the albanains on this forum... "Serbia just woke up one day and decided to go kill Albanians"....

Send these guys to The Hague!

And about Serbian economy:

Well, 50 % (!) unemployment in Kosovo. Maybe Albanians in Kosovo province should focus on their own provincial economy!

Kosovo (same goes unfortunately for Albania) is a third world country in Europe. Please forget joining the EU for the coming two decades!

Some posters here said that Albanians are so energetic and practical. Well, then tell me: why Albania was the darkest of the darkest among communist nations?
Why the communist regime felt there years later then in other countries?

And again: why is Albania a third world country?

DISCLAIMER: I am in favour of Albanian (not Kosovo!) joining the EU!

How dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!
(Mospyt, 27 December 2008 11:28)

How dare Albanians go on killing, terrorizing and torturing Serbs for a very long time.
That's why Serbian had to send in troops to stop you people.

Again, more knee-jerk comments from people with little to nothing to say. As I mentioned yesterday, were these 10 people Serbs arrested in Kosovo by the KPS, the Albanians would be jumping for joy. But because it's one of their own - regardless of how despicable these people may be - it's an infringement of sovereignty, a violation of law, and another example of anti-Albanian activity on part of the Serb race that has existed since the Expulsion from Eden.

I'm reminded of a quote by George Orwell that sums up the mentality of lots of people here: "As nearly as possible, no nationalist ever thinks, talks, or writes about anything except the superiority of his own power unit. It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can relieve only by making some sharp retort."

I am convinced that the real reason the K Albanians are upset is that now they have 10 less future leaders to choose from.

Serbia needs to show that Kosova/o is still hers, that's why they are arresting these men, which on the contrary of the majority of opinions here, are not yet GULTY, because they have been arrested not sentenced and of course Serbia cannot judge them as they are citizens of another Country/State.
It is purely a show, nothing else, a mean to create noise, nothing else. they can arrest people like foxes in the dark with falsification and false accusations just to make noise, but nothing else.

Your line "it is not that I don't trust the Serbian justice system, but I don't. What the hell does that mean? You will go on the defense of Albanians no matter what they have done are accused of done.

You don't even want Albanians to stand a trial because you are so worried that they will be found guilty. How can you sleep at night knowing that there are Albanians out there who have committed horrible crimes against the Serbs and other non Albanians and yet you direct your anger towards the people who arrest them?

You are worse than the Albanians here. At least they are Albanian and they simply don't want to know the truth about their own but you a sa "Jew", which I highly suspect you are have no reason to be so blind.

For once, I agree completely with Peter Sudyka (comment 6).

The only shame is that they were not apprehended earlier. If they are innocent, the court will release them. If they are guilty, they should rot in prison for the rest of their days.

Now, how about catching Mladic too?

Roberto - I'm sure Serbia will at the very least meet out justice on a par with the USA's "justice" for it's Guantanamo inmates. I'm sure Serbia will have no objections to following the world's greatest democracy and upholder of justice in it's treatment of these people.

zivela serbia

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This is a recipe for more conflict and tension. None needed this, as no one believes in Serbian justice especially when it comes to judging the Albanians. And vise versa as well.

This is truly a stupid move, typical balkan style. I am not sure what is exactly that they are trying to prove? Are they trying to prove that they can find Albanian "terrorists" and have them face justice in Serbia? I have heard and seen Serbia do this before ...... and that's how Kosovo was lost.

But local Albanians were saying that the Gendarmes used "unnecessary force"

This sounds familiar! Think I heard it in 1999 and we all know what happend then.
Good thing they were caught. Word is they were planing disturbances in Presevo. Albanians are far from finished with their land grabing. Presevo is nr 2 on their list.

this latest hate-blast ag. albanians here is not appreciated; but let's say that i appreciate the "honesty" of the emotion.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
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(roberto, 27 December 2008 21:09)

Roberto,

Do you know that a good number (maybe the majority?) of the "pekara" in Serbia are Albanian-owned? Same applies to money exchange booth owners. I did not see much hate-blasts against them. Sure, there were/are some issues but these Albanian businesses are in general well-respected.

Most "hate-blasts" are towards certain UCK members who are suspected to kill/torture/rape a hundred-something Serb civilians. Wonder, why.

"Those arrested are former KLA members whom the Serbian War Crimes Prosecution BELIEVE were involved in war crimes that included torture and monstrous killings of at least 51 Serb civilians in the Gjilane area after the 1999 war in the province"

I highlighted it "BELIEVE",in civilized countries you don't punish somebody because ur own beliefs,belief it is not a reason to arrest and presecute people,evidence is.
If they did such things how come they didn't arrest them before? can somebody explain,this is ridiculus,and later blame Albanians for tryung to defend their homes getting trashed every time somebody in Serbian presecution belives in something.
Serbia let people live their lives!!!

I am not interested in taking sides, Serbian or Albanian, I just want to know a few facts. How did the Albanians cross into Serbia, presenting papers or whatever you need to do at the crossing point or did they cross without authority? I do not live in that part of the world and my questions may seem odd but it is important for outsiders to understand these things.

The implications of how they crossed are relevant to the whole situation of their arrest.

As the K albs idolise USA, why not video tape these guys being questioned by the waterboard method? This is An interrogation method sanctioned by the USA. Okay, it is only one of many methods sanctioned by the USA. Soften them up with sleep deprivation, loud noise, threatening animals, all legal.

I would ask those Posters who think that this action was inappropriate to answer the following questions:

1. Do you think that any KLA member has committed any crime ever?

2. If the answer is yes, do you think that those who committed a crime should be held accountable?

The action was transparent and the level of international scrutiny is such that the accused will not be declared guilty without hard evidence. It is naive to think that this action was done without international support, as Serbian government has learnt the lesson well.

The Serbs are partners with the West when it comes to war on terror and hunting down terrorists and war criminals, including their own Mladich. I just hope that the West cooperates fully with Serbia on the organ harvesting investigation as much as Serbia cooperates with the West on war on terror. If the Albanians continue with their established trend of family members bargaining for reduced sentences of their loved ones, than these ten captured, if convicted and setenced are more than enough to get the snowball rolling. Who knows, it may even lead to more information on the organ harvesting, or even solve the case alltogether. That being, I am not at all surprized at the " how dare Serbia do this? This is a reminder that the war goes on!" posters. If I had something on me or my loved ones and didn't want the law to find out I'll be worried and scared too. Especially if these 10 arrested knew something about me that could get me arrested and convicted.