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Thursday, 25.12.2008.

17:30

"EULEX tacitly implements Ahtisaari plan"

Representatives of Serb municipalities in northern Kosovo are warning that EULEX is implementing the Ahtisaari plan.

Izvor: B92

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Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

If EULEX wants to implemnt the A-plan, that's OK. But then the UN should deceide that.

Don't agree on 'A' if you will try to implement 'B' anyway?

Or do you think that's fair?
Serious answer please!

To all: hope you had a nice Christmas. And hopefully Serbia and its province of Kosovo will have a better Christmas next year. And soo: in EU!

EA

pre 15 godina

I think this article is good as it tells the TRUTH. Guys, after all it makes sense that EULEX will help to implement Ahtisari plan. Firstly guarantees peace and stability, secondly Yes recognises Kosova as an independent state. What is the problem with it? Serbia accepted it since it was forced out from Kosova. LET'S FACE THE TRUTH and please stop moaning about the implementation process. The future is bright. Serbia will recognise formally Kosova as an independent state, mutual agreement between Kosova and Serbia for free movement of goods, people....both in the EU and all problems solved. That is NOT a ROCKET SCIENCE to understand. Happy Christmass and NEW YEAR to B92 and everyone in here!

lowe

pre 15 godina

"They will enforce the laws of the constitution of Kosovo as dictated in 1244.
(pss, 26 December 2008 01:52)"

Wrong take pss. 1244 did not talk about Kosovo's constitution. On the other hand 1244 recognizes Belgrade's sovereignty over Kosovo.

pss

pre 15 godina

Mike C.
The EU and US have been upfront all along. Neither were involved in the negotiations with Serbia on the 6 point plan, neither ever mentioned they were going to participate in the 6 point plan. Both have said from day one they support the Ahtissari plan. US and majority of EU have recognized Kosovo as an independent state. The only ones that have been deceptive in this is the officials of Serbia. They are the ones that told all their people what the EU and US were going to do, without consulting them.
But the fact does remain that it is not EULEX that implements the Ahtissari plan, EULEX is a product of the Ahtissari plan. EULEX is only implementing the rule of law as laid out in Resolution 1244, Laws developed autonomously in Kosovo without Serbian interference.
They have agreed that EULEX officials will not refer to Kosovo as an independent state nor as an autonomous province of Serbia. Their mission does not need to make that distinction. They will enforce the laws of the constitution of Kosovo as dictated in 1244.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Only a fool didn't see this coming. Tadic, I am talking to you.

I have always said it and will continue to say it, If Resolution 1244 isn't being adhered to what made Tadic think that EULEX would be adhered to?

First, make sure that res. 1244 is honoured and then talk about EULEX. No, Tadic couldn't wait to say yes to everything hoping someone is going to grant him a crumb leftover from a banquet that EU and Albanians had.

Rote Kapelle

pre 15 godina

With the same success EULEX can implement this dead borb plan somewhere in Somalia or New Guinea which are like Serbia not members of EU. So they can try to legalize some other Bantustan.

Yet I believe EU has got enough will power and enough stimuls to close somehow it's own criminal page opened in 1999. Potentilly in case the US are excludes from the process the Kosovo matter has good chances for a compromise. Russia and EU are supposed to the most positively motivated intermediators in the negoitiations to come.

Dardania

pre 15 godina

>>>> "What a surprise! Europe and America going back on it's promise. That's a shocker!"

>>> This was clear from the very beginning!

Yes, it was. Tadic knew this so blame him, not US /EU. It was done, as Americans say with a wink and a nod after Serbia was told no SAA unless you accept EULEX. Did you really, really think that EU would implement something against the will of 95% of the population???

The same for SAA and EU membership, Serbia will have to be 'constructive' for now, and recognize later on. Don't say EU broke its promise so choose.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I realy do beleve that eulex is the best game in town right now, and we need to see that it works and is not sabotaged. there is so much work to be done, which could and should benefit all the people of kosovo/a and by extension, the people of the region.

i know that many people think i am prejudiced towards the albanian POV. and i am very supportive of the albanian kosovars, but also of every other group in kosovo/a: serbs, bosniaks, roma, etc. they are all citizens of the country, with equal rights (some "protected"), and like in every other country, we have to work to make sure that this equality "on paper" is transfered to the reality.

really it is not so different than in serbia, which also has various minority groups, and claims equality on paper. there is not room for 500 more countries in the balkans, nor should there be. we just have to learn to live together, and to follow principles of justice and equality. and i think that eulex has the POtential to help with that, as long as we support it, and monitor it.

thank you and happy holidays.

robert-0

MikeC

pre 15 godina

What a surprise! Europe and America going back on it's promise. That's a shocker!
What did you expect? EU/america are hypocrites, and this is the organization people are eager to join. You must be really really desperate!

kufr

pre 15 godina

If Eulex violates the terms of the agreement then they broke it and the agreement is gone, null and void. The Serbs have kept their side of the agreement now it is up to Eulex to keep their part.

Dardania

pre 15 godina

"in order to debate this development. "

Debate all you want, no one is asking you. Serbs wanted EULEX and wanted it to go through the UN, now deal with it. Don't forget it was the Albanians who opposed the UN move.

Dardania

pre 15 godina

"in order to debate this development. "

Debate all you want, no one is asking you. Serbs wanted EULEX and wanted it to go through the UN, now deal with it. Don't forget it was the Albanians who opposed the UN move.

kufr

pre 15 godina

If Eulex violates the terms of the agreement then they broke it and the agreement is gone, null and void. The Serbs have kept their side of the agreement now it is up to Eulex to keep their part.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

What a surprise! Europe and America going back on it's promise. That's a shocker!
What did you expect? EU/america are hypocrites, and this is the organization people are eager to join. You must be really really desperate!

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Only a fool didn't see this coming. Tadic, I am talking to you.

I have always said it and will continue to say it, If Resolution 1244 isn't being adhered to what made Tadic think that EULEX would be adhered to?

First, make sure that res. 1244 is honoured and then talk about EULEX. No, Tadic couldn't wait to say yes to everything hoping someone is going to grant him a crumb leftover from a banquet that EU and Albanians had.

Dardania

pre 15 godina

>>>> "What a surprise! Europe and America going back on it's promise. That's a shocker!"

>>> This was clear from the very beginning!

Yes, it was. Tadic knew this so blame him, not US /EU. It was done, as Americans say with a wink and a nod after Serbia was told no SAA unless you accept EULEX. Did you really, really think that EU would implement something against the will of 95% of the population???

The same for SAA and EU membership, Serbia will have to be 'constructive' for now, and recognize later on. Don't say EU broke its promise so choose.

pss

pre 15 godina

Mike C.
The EU and US have been upfront all along. Neither were involved in the negotiations with Serbia on the 6 point plan, neither ever mentioned they were going to participate in the 6 point plan. Both have said from day one they support the Ahtissari plan. US and majority of EU have recognized Kosovo as an independent state. The only ones that have been deceptive in this is the officials of Serbia. They are the ones that told all their people what the EU and US were going to do, without consulting them.
But the fact does remain that it is not EULEX that implements the Ahtissari plan, EULEX is a product of the Ahtissari plan. EULEX is only implementing the rule of law as laid out in Resolution 1244, Laws developed autonomously in Kosovo without Serbian interference.
They have agreed that EULEX officials will not refer to Kosovo as an independent state nor as an autonomous province of Serbia. Their mission does not need to make that distinction. They will enforce the laws of the constitution of Kosovo as dictated in 1244.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I realy do beleve that eulex is the best game in town right now, and we need to see that it works and is not sabotaged. there is so much work to be done, which could and should benefit all the people of kosovo/a and by extension, the people of the region.

i know that many people think i am prejudiced towards the albanian POV. and i am very supportive of the albanian kosovars, but also of every other group in kosovo/a: serbs, bosniaks, roma, etc. they are all citizens of the country, with equal rights (some "protected"), and like in every other country, we have to work to make sure that this equality "on paper" is transfered to the reality.

really it is not so different than in serbia, which also has various minority groups, and claims equality on paper. there is not room for 500 more countries in the balkans, nor should there be. we just have to learn to live together, and to follow principles of justice and equality. and i think that eulex has the POtential to help with that, as long as we support it, and monitor it.

thank you and happy holidays.

robert-0

EA

pre 15 godina

I think this article is good as it tells the TRUTH. Guys, after all it makes sense that EULEX will help to implement Ahtisari plan. Firstly guarantees peace and stability, secondly Yes recognises Kosova as an independent state. What is the problem with it? Serbia accepted it since it was forced out from Kosova. LET'S FACE THE TRUTH and please stop moaning about the implementation process. The future is bright. Serbia will recognise formally Kosova as an independent state, mutual agreement between Kosova and Serbia for free movement of goods, people....both in the EU and all problems solved. That is NOT a ROCKET SCIENCE to understand. Happy Christmass and NEW YEAR to B92 and everyone in here!

Rote Kapelle

pre 15 godina

With the same success EULEX can implement this dead borb plan somewhere in Somalia or New Guinea which are like Serbia not members of EU. So they can try to legalize some other Bantustan.

Yet I believe EU has got enough will power and enough stimuls to close somehow it's own criminal page opened in 1999. Potentilly in case the US are excludes from the process the Kosovo matter has good chances for a compromise. Russia and EU are supposed to the most positively motivated intermediators in the negoitiations to come.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"They will enforce the laws of the constitution of Kosovo as dictated in 1244.
(pss, 26 December 2008 01:52)"

Wrong take pss. 1244 did not talk about Kosovo's constitution. On the other hand 1244 recognizes Belgrade's sovereignty over Kosovo.

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

If EULEX wants to implemnt the A-plan, that's OK. But then the UN should deceide that.

Don't agree on 'A' if you will try to implement 'B' anyway?

Or do you think that's fair?
Serious answer please!

To all: hope you had a nice Christmas. And hopefully Serbia and its province of Kosovo will have a better Christmas next year. And soo: in EU!

Dardania

pre 15 godina

"in order to debate this development. "

Debate all you want, no one is asking you. Serbs wanted EULEX and wanted it to go through the UN, now deal with it. Don't forget it was the Albanians who opposed the UN move.

kufr

pre 15 godina

If Eulex violates the terms of the agreement then they broke it and the agreement is gone, null and void. The Serbs have kept their side of the agreement now it is up to Eulex to keep their part.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I realy do beleve that eulex is the best game in town right now, and we need to see that it works and is not sabotaged. there is so much work to be done, which could and should benefit all the people of kosovo/a and by extension, the people of the region.

i know that many people think i am prejudiced towards the albanian POV. and i am very supportive of the albanian kosovars, but also of every other group in kosovo/a: serbs, bosniaks, roma, etc. they are all citizens of the country, with equal rights (some "protected"), and like in every other country, we have to work to make sure that this equality "on paper" is transfered to the reality.

really it is not so different than in serbia, which also has various minority groups, and claims equality on paper. there is not room for 500 more countries in the balkans, nor should there be. we just have to learn to live together, and to follow principles of justice and equality. and i think that eulex has the POtential to help with that, as long as we support it, and monitor it.

thank you and happy holidays.

robert-0

MikeC

pre 15 godina

What a surprise! Europe and America going back on it's promise. That's a shocker!
What did you expect? EU/america are hypocrites, and this is the organization people are eager to join. You must be really really desperate!

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Only a fool didn't see this coming. Tadic, I am talking to you.

I have always said it and will continue to say it, If Resolution 1244 isn't being adhered to what made Tadic think that EULEX would be adhered to?

First, make sure that res. 1244 is honoured and then talk about EULEX. No, Tadic couldn't wait to say yes to everything hoping someone is going to grant him a crumb leftover from a banquet that EU and Albanians had.

Rote Kapelle

pre 15 godina

With the same success EULEX can implement this dead borb plan somewhere in Somalia or New Guinea which are like Serbia not members of EU. So they can try to legalize some other Bantustan.

Yet I believe EU has got enough will power and enough stimuls to close somehow it's own criminal page opened in 1999. Potentilly in case the US are excludes from the process the Kosovo matter has good chances for a compromise. Russia and EU are supposed to the most positively motivated intermediators in the negoitiations to come.

Dardania

pre 15 godina

>>>> "What a surprise! Europe and America going back on it's promise. That's a shocker!"

>>> This was clear from the very beginning!

Yes, it was. Tadic knew this so blame him, not US /EU. It was done, as Americans say with a wink and a nod after Serbia was told no SAA unless you accept EULEX. Did you really, really think that EU would implement something against the will of 95% of the population???

The same for SAA and EU membership, Serbia will have to be 'constructive' for now, and recognize later on. Don't say EU broke its promise so choose.

pss

pre 15 godina

Mike C.
The EU and US have been upfront all along. Neither were involved in the negotiations with Serbia on the 6 point plan, neither ever mentioned they were going to participate in the 6 point plan. Both have said from day one they support the Ahtissari plan. US and majority of EU have recognized Kosovo as an independent state. The only ones that have been deceptive in this is the officials of Serbia. They are the ones that told all their people what the EU and US were going to do, without consulting them.
But the fact does remain that it is not EULEX that implements the Ahtissari plan, EULEX is a product of the Ahtissari plan. EULEX is only implementing the rule of law as laid out in Resolution 1244, Laws developed autonomously in Kosovo without Serbian interference.
They have agreed that EULEX officials will not refer to Kosovo as an independent state nor as an autonomous province of Serbia. Their mission does not need to make that distinction. They will enforce the laws of the constitution of Kosovo as dictated in 1244.

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

If EULEX wants to implemnt the A-plan, that's OK. But then the UN should deceide that.

Don't agree on 'A' if you will try to implement 'B' anyway?

Or do you think that's fair?
Serious answer please!

To all: hope you had a nice Christmas. And hopefully Serbia and its province of Kosovo will have a better Christmas next year. And soo: in EU!

lowe

pre 15 godina

"They will enforce the laws of the constitution of Kosovo as dictated in 1244.
(pss, 26 December 2008 01:52)"

Wrong take pss. 1244 did not talk about Kosovo's constitution. On the other hand 1244 recognizes Belgrade's sovereignty over Kosovo.

EA

pre 15 godina

I think this article is good as it tells the TRUTH. Guys, after all it makes sense that EULEX will help to implement Ahtisari plan. Firstly guarantees peace and stability, secondly Yes recognises Kosova as an independent state. What is the problem with it? Serbia accepted it since it was forced out from Kosova. LET'S FACE THE TRUTH and please stop moaning about the implementation process. The future is bright. Serbia will recognise formally Kosova as an independent state, mutual agreement between Kosova and Serbia for free movement of goods, people....both in the EU and all problems solved. That is NOT a ROCKET SCIENCE to understand. Happy Christmass and NEW YEAR to B92 and everyone in here!