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Sunday, 14.12.2008.

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Ex-UNMIK chief: EU is not neutral

A former UN mission in Kosovo, UNMIK, chief says that the EU is not neutral on the issue of Kosovo's status.

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John

pre 15 godina

Ron, comment 2,

Yes Ron, you're right,

Only in EU results are

22 small countries 4 Kosovo against 5 big countries for Serbia (including the bigest one Cyprus).

Ron

pre 15 godina

Jim Boles,

Kosovo is part of Serbia. Serbia was part of Yugoslavia.

I don't know what you exactly mean but I think the Western Balkan had been a much better place if Yugoslavia was still there. Maybe the could have been in the EU right now!

Jim Boles

pre 15 godina

"Second: I think it is time for Kosovo to obey SERBIAN constitution!"

Why not the Yugoslavian constitution? Oh yes, I remember now, the children couldn't be nice to each other and both sides had to behave like animals until bombed better...

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Way to go Europe! Forcing a tiny serb minority to be bullied by albanians in a future "independent Kosovo". You can never force people to live opressed for too long and it won't succeed in Kosovo either. Granting Kosovo independence was the easiest solution for the west but under international law it is wrong. And boy oh boy have they payed, and will continue to pay, for that blunder. Unless the intenational community wants world chaos then they should reethink their priorities in the Balkans. UN/NATO will remain in the Balkans for a long time unless they wake up and smell the coffey. It's not about democracy and fairness, it's about standing your ground. Europe has made a big misstake in Kosovo. Instead of admitting to those misstakes they are making it worse by reafirming that the wrong decissions they took are right. This will not end well. And, unfortunately for Serbia, Europe will ask for Serbia to recognize Kosovo. Europe will be so desperate for a solution and an end to the humiliation over Kosovo that in the end Serbia will be forced to chose.

Jeff

pre 15 godina

In 5 - 10 years NOBODY will be angry when the bad guests (Albanians) will be brought back to Albania to finally build up a country (this time one they can call their own). Would be better if they start already... the sooner they start the sooner work is done

Princip, Gracanica,KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

sp,

"UNMIK turned customs over to the Kosovo govt not even to EULEX."

- really you clearly havent been to the administrative border north of Mitrovica have you and neither have any Thaci/Sediju skivvies either?

Keep believing in the disney fairlytales told by uncle Sam and any other has-been technocrat if it keeps the peace thats fine with Serbia but dont bite the EU hand that feeds you when you fully comprehend the State your in the next year and half when this becomes legally clear!!!

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

First: read newspapers in Western Europe!

Second: I think it is time for Kosovo to obey SERBIAN constitution!

Again: why didn't you take the official route like Montenegro and Slovakia? Any countries in UN or EU have problems with recognzing them? Nope!

EA

pre 15 godina

Ron,

Who "told" you that "People in Western Europe are starting to dislike Kosovo more and more each day!"

Someone is lying here with that "fact".

We live also in Western Europe and haven't heared anyone to say "we dislike Kosova". In FACT that is not the language of an western. West is expecting a constractive approach from Belgrade and Pristina when it comes to EULEX and its mission in enforcing RULE of Law according to Kosova's Constitution.

sp

pre 15 godina

The 6 point plan was a way for Jeremic and company to look like they were in charge. No where in the Presidential statement that authorized EULEX is the 6 point plan mentioned. No one connected with EULEX has said anything about operating under the 6 point plan, operations on the ground are not even close to anything in the 6 point plan. UNMIK turned customs over to the Kosovo govt not even to EULEX.
The mandate came from the UN and contrary to many on here's wishes there will never be a revocation passed by the UNSC.
You and many others are going to be truly shocked by the ICJ ruling. In the area of "international law" human rights will always supercede land claims.

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

Sp and Ben,

remeber EULEX is mandated by the UN under UN SC 1244 on the 6 points that were agreed with Serbia - nothing more nothing less need be said with regards EULEX. Just like under UNMIK Serbia has increased its legitamate sovereignty it continues and will further do so under EULEX since EULEX is all about reducing criminal activity and upholding legitamate rights including property rights and thus soverignity and territorial integrity!

Some ethnic Albanians understand completly what EULEX is about and have coined it as "made in Serbia" (quite rightly since it is a Serbian province) while others like yourselves would rather this wasn't the case need assuaging with words from has-been technocrats every week. However, the legitamate and legal stance is very clear and will not be brushed aside when ICJ confirms international law! Not unless the same promotors of illegality want to formalise pandora's box which I very much doubt!

Good luck but one guess's the EU will need the 17000 NATO troops in 18 months time - as an aside I guess that explains why EULEX has a budget for 18 months!!!

ben

pre 15 godina

except insults do you Serb camp have any TRUE argument to oppose the fact that: if there is a mission of EU where 2/3 of the countries have CLEAR stance on what is Kosova- diametrically in contrast with yours, others recognise Kosova’s institutions and documents that these institutions produce is probably not a mission as Jeremic is selling it to you????

Aleks

pre 15 godina

Let's get this right, he's saying that the agreement Serbia signed with the UN & EU on EULEX is not worth the paper it is written on?

If this is the case, then why did it take so long to reach an agreement? Why did the EU need and agreement then?

sp

pre 15 godina

In the Wizard of OZ Dorothy only had to close her eyes and say 3 times, "There's no place like home" and it came true.
You all have to realize that is a fairy tale, You can not say 3, 10, 100 times that 1244 guarantees Kosovo is part of Serbia forever. Only at the writing of the document and then it spends the entire rest of the document assuring that Serbia does not nor ever will have any control over Kosovo.

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

It interesting that such has-been techocrats have had to be wheeled out of late continually to assuage the ethnic Albanians into believing that they have gained independence but all the time UN SC resolution 1244 remains which therefore means so does Serbian soverignty over its southern province.

Whats more ignorance is not a defense in the face of international law as we shall find out with ICJ case! The only reality is that of international law not some made up micky mouse laws! No wonder the UK were dead against it going through but could not vote against it - they know that they and the rest of the promotres of such illegality have put themselves in a rock and a hard place - I wonder if they'll be wheeling out more has beens onto albanian media?

Kosovo is and remains in Serbia and he is right on only one point - no partition is required!!! Serbian institutions are stregthening across its UN recognised province every day even under EU just has been the case undre UN - perhaps after 3 more years the ethnic-Albanians will really comprehedn the State they are in!!!

Oh what a tangled web EUS weave...

Ron

pre 15 godina

EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244. If this is not what the EU wants, then they shouldn't have agreed on this.

No more games please! 1244 is still valid. If you don't agree with 1244 that's fine. Then you may democratically try to change the situation.

But what this Danish guy referring to is cheating.

You say: status neutral.
But you mean: Kosovo independence.

Well, if this is the way the EU operates it is not strange that a lot of people in Europe don't trust their own organization.

Can someone tell the UN that they should act and tell the EU that 1244 is still valid?
Thanks in advance!

The Kosovo soap continues... sadly!

To all Albanians: if you had taken the offcial route (like Slovakia) we wouldn't be is such a mess!

People in Western Europe are starting to dislike Kosovo more and more each day!

Biljana

pre 15 godina

Ok, this is just one of those statements given for an average Albanian consumer by very irrelevant person. Albanians must be kept calm in order to prevent their well-known rampaging style. Their style to come out from own frustrations is to burn down churches and monasteries as well as set Serbian houses on fire, vandalise Serbian cemeteries, kill Serbs… the list goes on.

But Petersen said it all by mentioning UN resolution 1244 as a basis for EULEX. I guess this resolution is very alive and active. But I can understand that Albanians get upset each time when they hear anything related to UN resolution 1244.

Biljana

pre 15 godina

Ok, this is just one of those statements given for an average Albanian consumer by very irrelevant person. Albanians must be kept calm in order to prevent their well-known rampaging style. Their style to come out from own frustrations is to burn down churches and monasteries as well as set Serbian houses on fire, vandalise Serbian cemeteries, kill Serbs… the list goes on.

But Petersen said it all by mentioning UN resolution 1244 as a basis for EULEX. I guess this resolution is very alive and active. But I can understand that Albanians get upset each time when they hear anything related to UN resolution 1244.

Ron

pre 15 godina

EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244. If this is not what the EU wants, then they shouldn't have agreed on this.

No more games please! 1244 is still valid. If you don't agree with 1244 that's fine. Then you may democratically try to change the situation.

But what this Danish guy referring to is cheating.

You say: status neutral.
But you mean: Kosovo independence.

Well, if this is the way the EU operates it is not strange that a lot of people in Europe don't trust their own organization.

Can someone tell the UN that they should act and tell the EU that 1244 is still valid?
Thanks in advance!

The Kosovo soap continues... sadly!

To all Albanians: if you had taken the offcial route (like Slovakia) we wouldn't be is such a mess!

People in Western Europe are starting to dislike Kosovo more and more each day!

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

It interesting that such has-been techocrats have had to be wheeled out of late continually to assuage the ethnic Albanians into believing that they have gained independence but all the time UN SC resolution 1244 remains which therefore means so does Serbian soverignty over its southern province.

Whats more ignorance is not a defense in the face of international law as we shall find out with ICJ case! The only reality is that of international law not some made up micky mouse laws! No wonder the UK were dead against it going through but could not vote against it - they know that they and the rest of the promotres of such illegality have put themselves in a rock and a hard place - I wonder if they'll be wheeling out more has beens onto albanian media?

Kosovo is and remains in Serbia and he is right on only one point - no partition is required!!! Serbian institutions are stregthening across its UN recognised province every day even under EU just has been the case undre UN - perhaps after 3 more years the ethnic-Albanians will really comprehedn the State they are in!!!

Oh what a tangled web EUS weave...

sp

pre 15 godina

In the Wizard of OZ Dorothy only had to close her eyes and say 3 times, "There's no place like home" and it came true.
You all have to realize that is a fairy tale, You can not say 3, 10, 100 times that 1244 guarantees Kosovo is part of Serbia forever. Only at the writing of the document and then it spends the entire rest of the document assuring that Serbia does not nor ever will have any control over Kosovo.

Aleks

pre 15 godina

Let's get this right, he's saying that the agreement Serbia signed with the UN & EU on EULEX is not worth the paper it is written on?

If this is the case, then why did it take so long to reach an agreement? Why did the EU need and agreement then?

ben

pre 15 godina

except insults do you Serb camp have any TRUE argument to oppose the fact that: if there is a mission of EU where 2/3 of the countries have CLEAR stance on what is Kosova- diametrically in contrast with yours, others recognise Kosova’s institutions and documents that these institutions produce is probably not a mission as Jeremic is selling it to you????

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

Sp and Ben,

remeber EULEX is mandated by the UN under UN SC 1244 on the 6 points that were agreed with Serbia - nothing more nothing less need be said with regards EULEX. Just like under UNMIK Serbia has increased its legitamate sovereignty it continues and will further do so under EULEX since EULEX is all about reducing criminal activity and upholding legitamate rights including property rights and thus soverignity and territorial integrity!

Some ethnic Albanians understand completly what EULEX is about and have coined it as "made in Serbia" (quite rightly since it is a Serbian province) while others like yourselves would rather this wasn't the case need assuaging with words from has-been technocrats every week. However, the legitamate and legal stance is very clear and will not be brushed aside when ICJ confirms international law! Not unless the same promotors of illegality want to formalise pandora's box which I very much doubt!

Good luck but one guess's the EU will need the 17000 NATO troops in 18 months time - as an aside I guess that explains why EULEX has a budget for 18 months!!!

sp

pre 15 godina

The 6 point plan was a way for Jeremic and company to look like they were in charge. No where in the Presidential statement that authorized EULEX is the 6 point plan mentioned. No one connected with EULEX has said anything about operating under the 6 point plan, operations on the ground are not even close to anything in the 6 point plan. UNMIK turned customs over to the Kosovo govt not even to EULEX.
The mandate came from the UN and contrary to many on here's wishes there will never be a revocation passed by the UNSC.
You and many others are going to be truly shocked by the ICJ ruling. In the area of "international law" human rights will always supercede land claims.

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

First: read newspapers in Western Europe!

Second: I think it is time for Kosovo to obey SERBIAN constitution!

Again: why didn't you take the official route like Montenegro and Slovakia? Any countries in UN or EU have problems with recognzing them? Nope!

Jeff

pre 15 godina

In 5 - 10 years NOBODY will be angry when the bad guests (Albanians) will be brought back to Albania to finally build up a country (this time one they can call their own). Would be better if they start already... the sooner they start the sooner work is done

EA

pre 15 godina

Ron,

Who "told" you that "People in Western Europe are starting to dislike Kosovo more and more each day!"

Someone is lying here with that "fact".

We live also in Western Europe and haven't heared anyone to say "we dislike Kosova". In FACT that is not the language of an western. West is expecting a constractive approach from Belgrade and Pristina when it comes to EULEX and its mission in enforcing RULE of Law according to Kosova's Constitution.

Princip, Gracanica,KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

sp,

"UNMIK turned customs over to the Kosovo govt not even to EULEX."

- really you clearly havent been to the administrative border north of Mitrovica have you and neither have any Thaci/Sediju skivvies either?

Keep believing in the disney fairlytales told by uncle Sam and any other has-been technocrat if it keeps the peace thats fine with Serbia but dont bite the EU hand that feeds you when you fully comprehend the State your in the next year and half when this becomes legally clear!!!

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Way to go Europe! Forcing a tiny serb minority to be bullied by albanians in a future "independent Kosovo". You can never force people to live opressed for too long and it won't succeed in Kosovo either. Granting Kosovo independence was the easiest solution for the west but under international law it is wrong. And boy oh boy have they payed, and will continue to pay, for that blunder. Unless the intenational community wants world chaos then they should reethink their priorities in the Balkans. UN/NATO will remain in the Balkans for a long time unless they wake up and smell the coffey. It's not about democracy and fairness, it's about standing your ground. Europe has made a big misstake in Kosovo. Instead of admitting to those misstakes they are making it worse by reafirming that the wrong decissions they took are right. This will not end well. And, unfortunately for Serbia, Europe will ask for Serbia to recognize Kosovo. Europe will be so desperate for a solution and an end to the humiliation over Kosovo that in the end Serbia will be forced to chose.

Jim Boles

pre 15 godina

"Second: I think it is time for Kosovo to obey SERBIAN constitution!"

Why not the Yugoslavian constitution? Oh yes, I remember now, the children couldn't be nice to each other and both sides had to behave like animals until bombed better...

Ron

pre 15 godina

Jim Boles,

Kosovo is part of Serbia. Serbia was part of Yugoslavia.

I don't know what you exactly mean but I think the Western Balkan had been a much better place if Yugoslavia was still there. Maybe the could have been in the EU right now!

John

pre 15 godina

Ron, comment 2,

Yes Ron, you're right,

Only in EU results are

22 small countries 4 Kosovo against 5 big countries for Serbia (including the bigest one Cyprus).

Ron

pre 15 godina

EULEX works within the frameworks of 1244. If this is not what the EU wants, then they shouldn't have agreed on this.

No more games please! 1244 is still valid. If you don't agree with 1244 that's fine. Then you may democratically try to change the situation.

But what this Danish guy referring to is cheating.

You say: status neutral.
But you mean: Kosovo independence.

Well, if this is the way the EU operates it is not strange that a lot of people in Europe don't trust their own organization.

Can someone tell the UN that they should act and tell the EU that 1244 is still valid?
Thanks in advance!

The Kosovo soap continues... sadly!

To all Albanians: if you had taken the offcial route (like Slovakia) we wouldn't be is such a mess!

People in Western Europe are starting to dislike Kosovo more and more each day!

Biljana

pre 15 godina

Ok, this is just one of those statements given for an average Albanian consumer by very irrelevant person. Albanians must be kept calm in order to prevent their well-known rampaging style. Their style to come out from own frustrations is to burn down churches and monasteries as well as set Serbian houses on fire, vandalise Serbian cemeteries, kill Serbs… the list goes on.

But Petersen said it all by mentioning UN resolution 1244 as a basis for EULEX. I guess this resolution is very alive and active. But I can understand that Albanians get upset each time when they hear anything related to UN resolution 1244.

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

It interesting that such has-been techocrats have had to be wheeled out of late continually to assuage the ethnic Albanians into believing that they have gained independence but all the time UN SC resolution 1244 remains which therefore means so does Serbian soverignty over its southern province.

Whats more ignorance is not a defense in the face of international law as we shall find out with ICJ case! The only reality is that of international law not some made up micky mouse laws! No wonder the UK were dead against it going through but could not vote against it - they know that they and the rest of the promotres of such illegality have put themselves in a rock and a hard place - I wonder if they'll be wheeling out more has beens onto albanian media?

Kosovo is and remains in Serbia and he is right on only one point - no partition is required!!! Serbian institutions are stregthening across its UN recognised province every day even under EU just has been the case undre UN - perhaps after 3 more years the ethnic-Albanians will really comprehedn the State they are in!!!

Oh what a tangled web EUS weave...

sp

pre 15 godina

In the Wizard of OZ Dorothy only had to close her eyes and say 3 times, "There's no place like home" and it came true.
You all have to realize that is a fairy tale, You can not say 3, 10, 100 times that 1244 guarantees Kosovo is part of Serbia forever. Only at the writing of the document and then it spends the entire rest of the document assuring that Serbia does not nor ever will have any control over Kosovo.

ben

pre 15 godina

except insults do you Serb camp have any TRUE argument to oppose the fact that: if there is a mission of EU where 2/3 of the countries have CLEAR stance on what is Kosova- diametrically in contrast with yours, others recognise Kosova’s institutions and documents that these institutions produce is probably not a mission as Jeremic is selling it to you????

EA

pre 15 godina

Ron,

Who "told" you that "People in Western Europe are starting to dislike Kosovo more and more each day!"

Someone is lying here with that "fact".

We live also in Western Europe and haven't heared anyone to say "we dislike Kosova". In FACT that is not the language of an western. West is expecting a constractive approach from Belgrade and Pristina when it comes to EULEX and its mission in enforcing RULE of Law according to Kosova's Constitution.

sp

pre 15 godina

The 6 point plan was a way for Jeremic and company to look like they were in charge. No where in the Presidential statement that authorized EULEX is the 6 point plan mentioned. No one connected with EULEX has said anything about operating under the 6 point plan, operations on the ground are not even close to anything in the 6 point plan. UNMIK turned customs over to the Kosovo govt not even to EULEX.
The mandate came from the UN and contrary to many on here's wishes there will never be a revocation passed by the UNSC.
You and many others are going to be truly shocked by the ICJ ruling. In the area of "international law" human rights will always supercede land claims.

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

Sp and Ben,

remeber EULEX is mandated by the UN under UN SC 1244 on the 6 points that were agreed with Serbia - nothing more nothing less need be said with regards EULEX. Just like under UNMIK Serbia has increased its legitamate sovereignty it continues and will further do so under EULEX since EULEX is all about reducing criminal activity and upholding legitamate rights including property rights and thus soverignity and territorial integrity!

Some ethnic Albanians understand completly what EULEX is about and have coined it as "made in Serbia" (quite rightly since it is a Serbian province) while others like yourselves would rather this wasn't the case need assuaging with words from has-been technocrats every week. However, the legitamate and legal stance is very clear and will not be brushed aside when ICJ confirms international law! Not unless the same promotors of illegality want to formalise pandora's box which I very much doubt!

Good luck but one guess's the EU will need the 17000 NATO troops in 18 months time - as an aside I guess that explains why EULEX has a budget for 18 months!!!

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

First: read newspapers in Western Europe!

Second: I think it is time for Kosovo to obey SERBIAN constitution!

Again: why didn't you take the official route like Montenegro and Slovakia? Any countries in UN or EU have problems with recognzing them? Nope!

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Way to go Europe! Forcing a tiny serb minority to be bullied by albanians in a future "independent Kosovo". You can never force people to live opressed for too long and it won't succeed in Kosovo either. Granting Kosovo independence was the easiest solution for the west but under international law it is wrong. And boy oh boy have they payed, and will continue to pay, for that blunder. Unless the intenational community wants world chaos then they should reethink their priorities in the Balkans. UN/NATO will remain in the Balkans for a long time unless they wake up and smell the coffey. It's not about democracy and fairness, it's about standing your ground. Europe has made a big misstake in Kosovo. Instead of admitting to those misstakes they are making it worse by reafirming that the wrong decissions they took are right. This will not end well. And, unfortunately for Serbia, Europe will ask for Serbia to recognize Kosovo. Europe will be so desperate for a solution and an end to the humiliation over Kosovo that in the end Serbia will be forced to chose.

Aleks

pre 15 godina

Let's get this right, he's saying that the agreement Serbia signed with the UN & EU on EULEX is not worth the paper it is written on?

If this is the case, then why did it take so long to reach an agreement? Why did the EU need and agreement then?

Jeff

pre 15 godina

In 5 - 10 years NOBODY will be angry when the bad guests (Albanians) will be brought back to Albania to finally build up a country (this time one they can call their own). Would be better if they start already... the sooner they start the sooner work is done

Princip, Gracanica,KiM, Srbija

pre 15 godina

sp,

"UNMIK turned customs over to the Kosovo govt not even to EULEX."

- really you clearly havent been to the administrative border north of Mitrovica have you and neither have any Thaci/Sediju skivvies either?

Keep believing in the disney fairlytales told by uncle Sam and any other has-been technocrat if it keeps the peace thats fine with Serbia but dont bite the EU hand that feeds you when you fully comprehend the State your in the next year and half when this becomes legally clear!!!

Jim Boles

pre 15 godina

"Second: I think it is time for Kosovo to obey SERBIAN constitution!"

Why not the Yugoslavian constitution? Oh yes, I remember now, the children couldn't be nice to each other and both sides had to behave like animals until bombed better...

Ron

pre 15 godina

Jim Boles,

Kosovo is part of Serbia. Serbia was part of Yugoslavia.

I don't know what you exactly mean but I think the Western Balkan had been a much better place if Yugoslavia was still there. Maybe the could have been in the EU right now!

John

pre 15 godina

Ron, comment 2,

Yes Ron, you're right,

Only in EU results are

22 small countries 4 Kosovo against 5 big countries for Serbia (including the bigest one Cyprus).