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Tuesday, 09.12.2008.

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EULEX deployment under way

The EULEX mission, which currently numbers 1,400 personnel and will increase eventually to 1,900, officially began its mandate in Kosovo at 09:00 CET today.

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Ron

pre 15 godina

Arvanit,

May I remember you that we in Western Europe and USA pay for your so called independence?

And let me say this: in Holland and Germany (let alone Ireland) less and less people want more expansions of the EU...

People don't want to see more new countries coming in EU for the first years to come. No more 'poor' Eastern European countries. Let alone Kosovo (which is not a country) with 50 % unemployment. And a maffia-like corruption.

I would like to see you all joining the EU. But most people in Western Europe really want you to stay out for the first decades!!

genc

pre 15 godina

Mike,
generally I agree with your #22. Only two things:

1. There is the principle of the double majority in Ahtisaari's plan, consequently in Kosova’s costitution. That means, for a law to pass in Kosova's parliament the majority of Serb votes is needed. That means Albanians and Serbs equal governing partners, or a Serbian veto on everything. It was conceived with the explicit purpose to create the ground of the common good, so to bring people to collaborate, in spite of the rest. This is what most hurted Albanians, but they HAD to accept it and I still can't believe Serbia didn't take the offer. But, clearly, the pride overran the realism and all its benefits. It's much better than Daytonization. Moreover Serbia didn't offer such a solution (double majority in Serbian Parliament, Serbs and Albanians equal gorning partners, as a concession for Kosova to remain inside Serbia) during the negotiations. The same priciple was partially applied to fix things in Macedonia, with good results. It would had been a clever move from Serb side, would had complicated terribly the negotiations...

2. One or two generations is a long time, we can't wait so long. The region is going to be incorporated/integrated into EU within 2020. Moreover, there are K-Serbs collaborating with Thaçi (as Prime Minister) as today (in the enclaves). The problem lies in the North, we know who's behind and what the real reasons are. Emotional reasons are no reasons in politics, we’ve seen that so often.
And the Valley Albanians were also convinced to take their place in Serbia's parliament with Kostunica as PM.

But I guess new, professional politicians on both sides will soon emerge, first on lower levels, apart of stage lights, where the real job is done, which will rapidly move things towards the common good for all. If it seems fancy at all, remember that no one expected France and Germany to side together only 10 years after the war had ended. Unfortunately Kosova hasn't followed the same pattern up to now, the main reason being among others the status stalemate, which generates mutual distrust. With EULEX in, as impartial towards Abanians and Serbs in implementig its mission, the stalemate seems removed.

Mike

pre 15 godina

genc,

Interesting way of putting it, but even if "Daytonization" is in fact a temporary - and necessary - evil to accept for the sake of moving forward, I think you'll agree with me that it will take at least one, if not two, generations of Serbs and Albanians before they finally decide to tear down their self-constructed walls (or at least put windows on those walls) and work for a viable solution. I'm sure no one wants Daytonization as a permanent fixture, but can you really argue that K-Serbs are going to work with people like Thaci? Albanians yes, but Thaci specifically? Ceku? Haradinaj? It's like asking Albanians to suddenly start working with Milosevic, or even Kostuinica for that matter.

Yes, Serbs and Albanians, for better or for worse, are "condemned" to live together, as you say. They are also going to have to cooperate together too. But for the time being, that cooperation may very well indeed have to come via dual governmental systems. If EULEX can bridge this wide gap, I'll be one of the first to applaud it. Seriously.

albano

pre 15 godina

#3 Peggy,
Not Tadic, but noone else can do anything about it, so kosovo serb citizens, it seams were just used from all serbian politcans,so it is over , I hope they'll see it

genc

pre 15 godina

Mike,

"Daytonization" was born as a temporary solution to end a terribile war asap. Like the 1244.

Permanent "Daytonization" is the nightmare of European diplomacy.

EULEX stands behind the Kosova Costitution, (of which the EU is the author and of which not all Albanians are enthusiastic) and no Daytonization is foreseen there. Bosnia docet.

The functional partition will remain unofficial as long as conditions are met for the Serb Assembly to move to Prishtina and take the seats reserved for them in the Parliament.

EULEX will stay there as long as needed, to enforce this.

It's a simple question of principle: Daytonization (much cheaper to implement) is ethnic separation. And that is turning EU 100 yrs. back in the actual globalized world. You will understand the long-reaching consequences for the European order and its world-wide credibility.

That's why Albanians and Serbs are condemned to live together in Kosova, not side by side, as many, from both sides, seem to wish.

genc

pre 15 godina

The first time there is a move to disregard these, there will be a direct channel to the UN and action taken by the Security Council.
(kate, 9 December 2008 10:48)

Are you sure? Action taken by UNSC? 5 veto holders agreeing to disagree on this topic?

Patrik

pre 15 godina

"Today is a historic day. EULEX deploymwent will FINALLY end ALL Serbian day/night dreams of partitiong Kosovo.

It is even more positive since there is a signature of Belgrade too. SRS & DSS are no stupid when they say that Tadic & Jeremic have signed indpendenceo of Kosovo for speedy EU entry. Moreover this is also proved by the statements of the EU & USA officials. The latter are gradualy confirming and revealing that EULEX will operate according to Ahtisaari plan and NATO 2004 February 2008 agreement.
(PRN, 9 December 2008 10:47) "

Sometimes I have to stop and wonder if we are all reading the same news...........

ZK

pre 15 godina

I think this is a wait and see situation as not even the EU seems certain of its exact nature. The challenges are great and there is a lot to achieve. All of those people here with their crystal balls are really just as uncertain as most others.

This is one of those rare moments that I completely agree with roberto. Now lets see how it goes!

Mike

pre 15 godina

So EULEX is finally taking control of its Protectorate. Excellent. Let's hope they can add some civility to one of the most corrupt and lawless regions of Europe. I'm sure Thaci and Sejdiu were tickled pink to be included in the opening ceremonies - I still wonder how they were coaxed into smiling for the cameras when two weeks ago they were rejecting the EULEX mission on account of the 6-point plan negotiated by Belgrade and Brussels. I guess once they realized they were still going to be given positions of power, they stopped worrying. Petty potentates are a dime a dozen - grease their palms, and they'll dance whatever you tell them to dance. It's always funny to read statements by Sejdiu: Kosovo's occupation by outside powers is a testament to the internal unity and undeniable sovereignty of this multi-ethnic standard of democratic excellence. I guess he can say that after his position is guaranteed.
Someone ought to remind him that most of the 53 countries that have recognized don't care muich about Kosovo's internal configuration and are not going to lift a finger if K-Serbs continue to consolidate their own forms of government.

I also find it interesting that "Kosovo Law", was designed by people who are not from Kosovo, and at worst is an oxymoron - not to mention it needed to be cleared with Belgrade. Someone tell me again how Belgrade has no authority over parts of this contested piece of land?

Still, I just hope that EULEX will maintain the already functional separation that exists in Kosovo and that the Serb Assembly in Mitrovica is finally recognized for what it is - the legitimately elected government by Kosovo's Serb population. It can't be any more corrupt, nor more hastily strewn together, than what's in Pristina. Then, and only then, can Western Europe proclaim peace in our time.

Here's to EULEX supporting the Protectorate's further and official Daytonization.

Lenard

pre 15 godina

Hows in charge Solona and the Brussels Co backed by Serbia's old nemises. Aren't they the ones that gave the orders and then welcomed bombers over Beograd and all of Serbia in their words delivering much needed humanitarianisms packages. Don't kid your selfs they are where they wanted to be from long time past in charge and on Serbia's door threshold.

Joachim

pre 15 godina

"Asked which laws would be applied after EULEX’s arrival, Kouchner said that Kosovo law would be applied."
So the mission is not status neutral! Once again Kostunica was right!

roberto

pre 15 godina

Good luck, eulex, and good luck, kosovo/a. i do believe the challenges are daunting, on so many levels, and the antagonism intense. but we CAN do it, we can move forward and together. it is not about serb v. albanian, american v. russian, etc. -- it is about us working together to get past this crazy quagmire.

and now with eulex deployed we have a real chance, if they finally show a little backbone...

take care!

roberto
frisco

Ron

pre 15 godina

Florin,

Keep on dreaming. And 1244 is clear: Kosovo is part of FRY. Serbia is successor state of FYR. So there you go!

Please accept your fate. And build up your country!

And stop fooling yourself!

Florin

pre 15 godina

If there are any Serbs or Serb sympathizers out there who still held out any hope that EULEX would play a role favoring Serbia, this article should dispel those hopes. The only reason why Serbia was "consulted" about those six points, was as a ploy to get it to sit docilely by, while EULEX deployed. Today Mr. Kouchner, a friend of the people of Kosova, said what the real mandate will look like. 1244 (which by the way does not guarantee any sort of Serbian sovreignty unless drastically missinterpreted) and the UN are ultimately powerless to the reality in the ground. Only brutal Military force can change the reality on the ground, and although some in here might like that option, the West will never allow it. Kosova's security forces are soon to be created, and trained to NATO standards. Equipment for them will be courtesy of uncle SAM. Albanians should be very optimistic about their independent future.

Serb Patriarch

pre 15 godina

"but also to increase freedom of movement, cultural exchange and facilitate investment.“

The "cultural exchange" part made me laugh out loud. Which planet are these people from? Or are they that patronizing and mocking to the citizens of Kosovo, seeking their own agenda.

afrim hoxha

pre 15 godina

Just to add that EULEX was spread all over Northern Kosova also, even that serbs such Ivanovic were saying that EULEX will take some time until it spreads in northern Kosova.
Also, Yve De Kermabon reported today to the kosovar president and primeminister and officially informed them that EULEX was spread all over Kosova and this shows that Kosova is an independent country because otherwise if Kosova wasnt independent country, EULEX would report to serbian president and primenminister, not to kosovar president and primeminister.
Thanks.

Miles

pre 15 godina

Americans have recently bombed Serbia and the Croatians and Turks have a history of slaughtering Serbian civilians. Why not add a few Albanians, Bosnian Muslims and Bulgarians to the force to make the Serbs in Kosovo feel really comfortable with the impartiality of EULEX.

This is designed to test the the patience of the Kosovan Serbs to the limit, to make sure that in dispute all settlements will favour the Kosovan Albanians. Where are Greek, Cypriot or Spanish peacekeepers? I cant see the Croat or Turkish forces defending the Holy Orthodox Churches with their lives,from a mob of Albanians. Am I being too cynical?

Lets face it EULEX would be happy if all Serbs, non Albanian people and livestock all volunteered to leave Kosovo.


What are the Croatians doing there? Can anyone explain to me how far back in history we have to go to find the seeds of hatred the Croats have for their neighbours and why? I have the hatred as starting at the beginning of the Twentieth Century.

Ron

pre 15 godina

Just let's make sure nothing happens against 1244. The UN is in charge. Not the EU!

And girls and guys in Kosovo: please learn to love each other. Accept the state you live in (Serbia). And join EU as soon as possible!

Peggy

pre 15 godina

. Asked which laws would be applied after EULEX’s arrival, Kouchner said that Kosovo law would be applied.

“Kosovo has been recognized by over 50 countries, therefore Kosovo law will be applied. I think there will difficulties, but this operation will enable a framework where this will unfold. And the agreement with Serbia will be decisive,“ said Kouchner.

Are you listening Mr. Tadic?
As far as EULEX is concerned, the 50 countries which have recognized Kosovo are more important than the UN.

What are you going to do about this?

The Serbs in Kosovo will not accept this so you will have to make some major decisions and fast. I did say that whatever is signed will not matter because EULEX will do what they always intended to do. Resolution 1244 was not adhered to and now EULEX has further weakened it.

Great going Boris. Let's see how you are going to get out of this tight spot.

PRN

pre 15 godina

Today is a historic day. EULEX deploymwent will FINALLY end ALL Serbian day/night dreams of partitiong Kosovo.

It is even more positive since there is a signature of Belgrade too. SRS & DSS are no stupid when they say that Tadic & Jeremic have signed indpendenceo of Kosovo for speedy EU entry. Moreover this is also proved by the statements of the EU & USA officials. The latter are gradualy confirming and revealing that EULEX will operate according to Ahtisaari plan and NATO 2004 February 2008 agreement.

kate

pre 15 godina

"“They’re in the driver’s seat while we retain certain executive functions, when it comes to crime,corruption, organized crime, war crimes, issues linked to ethnic and property relations. So, every time local institutions are unable to address a specific issue or dossier, we’ll be there to do it for them,“ he explained."

How interesting it's going to be to see the EU, which seems unable to even get any of their messages straight, 'tackle' organised crime. I hope that they manage to keep corruption at least mainly out of the new mission.

As for Kouchner's comment, it's exactly the same that I would expect from any of the pro-independence FMs - just sugaring the pill for domestic consumption.

Nothing has changed - Kosovo has not been recognised as a state, there is no legal status as a separate nation, and EULEX has only been deployed under the UN umbrella. The mission has to adhere to UN Res 1244 which is very much alive and valid, and the 6 points which are not mere suggestions but a legal agreement.

The first time there is a move to disregard these, there will be a direct channel to the UN and action taken by the Security Council.

PRN

pre 15 godina

Today is a historic day. EULEX deploymwent will FINALLY end ALL Serbian day/night dreams of partitiong Kosovo.

It is even more positive since there is a signature of Belgrade too. SRS & DSS are no stupid when they say that Tadic & Jeremic have signed indpendenceo of Kosovo for speedy EU entry. Moreover this is also proved by the statements of the EU & USA officials. The latter are gradualy confirming and revealing that EULEX will operate according to Ahtisaari plan and NATO 2004 February 2008 agreement.

kate

pre 15 godina

"“They’re in the driver’s seat while we retain certain executive functions, when it comes to crime,corruption, organized crime, war crimes, issues linked to ethnic and property relations. So, every time local institutions are unable to address a specific issue or dossier, we’ll be there to do it for them,“ he explained."

How interesting it's going to be to see the EU, which seems unable to even get any of their messages straight, 'tackle' organised crime. I hope that they manage to keep corruption at least mainly out of the new mission.

As for Kouchner's comment, it's exactly the same that I would expect from any of the pro-independence FMs - just sugaring the pill for domestic consumption.

Nothing has changed - Kosovo has not been recognised as a state, there is no legal status as a separate nation, and EULEX has only been deployed under the UN umbrella. The mission has to adhere to UN Res 1244 which is very much alive and valid, and the 6 points which are not mere suggestions but a legal agreement.

The first time there is a move to disregard these, there will be a direct channel to the UN and action taken by the Security Council.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

. Asked which laws would be applied after EULEX’s arrival, Kouchner said that Kosovo law would be applied.

“Kosovo has been recognized by over 50 countries, therefore Kosovo law will be applied. I think there will difficulties, but this operation will enable a framework where this will unfold. And the agreement with Serbia will be decisive,“ said Kouchner.

Are you listening Mr. Tadic?
As far as EULEX is concerned, the 50 countries which have recognized Kosovo are more important than the UN.

What are you going to do about this?

The Serbs in Kosovo will not accept this so you will have to make some major decisions and fast. I did say that whatever is signed will not matter because EULEX will do what they always intended to do. Resolution 1244 was not adhered to and now EULEX has further weakened it.

Great going Boris. Let's see how you are going to get out of this tight spot.

Miles

pre 15 godina

Americans have recently bombed Serbia and the Croatians and Turks have a history of slaughtering Serbian civilians. Why not add a few Albanians, Bosnian Muslims and Bulgarians to the force to make the Serbs in Kosovo feel really comfortable with the impartiality of EULEX.

This is designed to test the the patience of the Kosovan Serbs to the limit, to make sure that in dispute all settlements will favour the Kosovan Albanians. Where are Greek, Cypriot or Spanish peacekeepers? I cant see the Croat or Turkish forces defending the Holy Orthodox Churches with their lives,from a mob of Albanians. Am I being too cynical?

Lets face it EULEX would be happy if all Serbs, non Albanian people and livestock all volunteered to leave Kosovo.


What are the Croatians doing there? Can anyone explain to me how far back in history we have to go to find the seeds of hatred the Croats have for their neighbours and why? I have the hatred as starting at the beginning of the Twentieth Century.

Ron

pre 15 godina

Just let's make sure nothing happens against 1244. The UN is in charge. Not the EU!

And girls and guys in Kosovo: please learn to love each other. Accept the state you live in (Serbia). And join EU as soon as possible!

Lenard

pre 15 godina

Hows in charge Solona and the Brussels Co backed by Serbia's old nemises. Aren't they the ones that gave the orders and then welcomed bombers over Beograd and all of Serbia in their words delivering much needed humanitarianisms packages. Don't kid your selfs they are where they wanted to be from long time past in charge and on Serbia's door threshold.

Joachim

pre 15 godina

"Asked which laws would be applied after EULEX’s arrival, Kouchner said that Kosovo law would be applied."
So the mission is not status neutral! Once again Kostunica was right!

Ron

pre 15 godina

Florin,

Keep on dreaming. And 1244 is clear: Kosovo is part of FRY. Serbia is successor state of FYR. So there you go!

Please accept your fate. And build up your country!

And stop fooling yourself!

afrim hoxha

pre 15 godina

Just to add that EULEX was spread all over Northern Kosova also, even that serbs such Ivanovic were saying that EULEX will take some time until it spreads in northern Kosova.
Also, Yve De Kermabon reported today to the kosovar president and primeminister and officially informed them that EULEX was spread all over Kosova and this shows that Kosova is an independent country because otherwise if Kosova wasnt independent country, EULEX would report to serbian president and primenminister, not to kosovar president and primeminister.
Thanks.

Mike

pre 15 godina

So EULEX is finally taking control of its Protectorate. Excellent. Let's hope they can add some civility to one of the most corrupt and lawless regions of Europe. I'm sure Thaci and Sejdiu were tickled pink to be included in the opening ceremonies - I still wonder how they were coaxed into smiling for the cameras when two weeks ago they were rejecting the EULEX mission on account of the 6-point plan negotiated by Belgrade and Brussels. I guess once they realized they were still going to be given positions of power, they stopped worrying. Petty potentates are a dime a dozen - grease their palms, and they'll dance whatever you tell them to dance. It's always funny to read statements by Sejdiu: Kosovo's occupation by outside powers is a testament to the internal unity and undeniable sovereignty of this multi-ethnic standard of democratic excellence. I guess he can say that after his position is guaranteed.
Someone ought to remind him that most of the 53 countries that have recognized don't care muich about Kosovo's internal configuration and are not going to lift a finger if K-Serbs continue to consolidate their own forms of government.

I also find it interesting that "Kosovo Law", was designed by people who are not from Kosovo, and at worst is an oxymoron - not to mention it needed to be cleared with Belgrade. Someone tell me again how Belgrade has no authority over parts of this contested piece of land?

Still, I just hope that EULEX will maintain the already functional separation that exists in Kosovo and that the Serb Assembly in Mitrovica is finally recognized for what it is - the legitimately elected government by Kosovo's Serb population. It can't be any more corrupt, nor more hastily strewn together, than what's in Pristina. Then, and only then, can Western Europe proclaim peace in our time.

Here's to EULEX supporting the Protectorate's further and official Daytonization.

Florin

pre 15 godina

If there are any Serbs or Serb sympathizers out there who still held out any hope that EULEX would play a role favoring Serbia, this article should dispel those hopes. The only reason why Serbia was "consulted" about those six points, was as a ploy to get it to sit docilely by, while EULEX deployed. Today Mr. Kouchner, a friend of the people of Kosova, said what the real mandate will look like. 1244 (which by the way does not guarantee any sort of Serbian sovreignty unless drastically missinterpreted) and the UN are ultimately powerless to the reality in the ground. Only brutal Military force can change the reality on the ground, and although some in here might like that option, the West will never allow it. Kosova's security forces are soon to be created, and trained to NATO standards. Equipment for them will be courtesy of uncle SAM. Albanians should be very optimistic about their independent future.

Serb Patriarch

pre 15 godina

"but also to increase freedom of movement, cultural exchange and facilitate investment.“

The "cultural exchange" part made me laugh out loud. Which planet are these people from? Or are they that patronizing and mocking to the citizens of Kosovo, seeking their own agenda.

roberto

pre 15 godina

Good luck, eulex, and good luck, kosovo/a. i do believe the challenges are daunting, on so many levels, and the antagonism intense. but we CAN do it, we can move forward and together. it is not about serb v. albanian, american v. russian, etc. -- it is about us working together to get past this crazy quagmire.

and now with eulex deployed we have a real chance, if they finally show a little backbone...

take care!

roberto
frisco

genc

pre 15 godina

The first time there is a move to disregard these, there will be a direct channel to the UN and action taken by the Security Council.
(kate, 9 December 2008 10:48)

Are you sure? Action taken by UNSC? 5 veto holders agreeing to disagree on this topic?

genc

pre 15 godina

Mike,

"Daytonization" was born as a temporary solution to end a terribile war asap. Like the 1244.

Permanent "Daytonization" is the nightmare of European diplomacy.

EULEX stands behind the Kosova Costitution, (of which the EU is the author and of which not all Albanians are enthusiastic) and no Daytonization is foreseen there. Bosnia docet.

The functional partition will remain unofficial as long as conditions are met for the Serb Assembly to move to Prishtina and take the seats reserved for them in the Parliament.

EULEX will stay there as long as needed, to enforce this.

It's a simple question of principle: Daytonization (much cheaper to implement) is ethnic separation. And that is turning EU 100 yrs. back in the actual globalized world. You will understand the long-reaching consequences for the European order and its world-wide credibility.

That's why Albanians and Serbs are condemned to live together in Kosova, not side by side, as many, from both sides, seem to wish.

Patrik

pre 15 godina

"Today is a historic day. EULEX deploymwent will FINALLY end ALL Serbian day/night dreams of partitiong Kosovo.

It is even more positive since there is a signature of Belgrade too. SRS & DSS are no stupid when they say that Tadic & Jeremic have signed indpendenceo of Kosovo for speedy EU entry. Moreover this is also proved by the statements of the EU & USA officials. The latter are gradualy confirming and revealing that EULEX will operate according to Ahtisaari plan and NATO 2004 February 2008 agreement.
(PRN, 9 December 2008 10:47) "

Sometimes I have to stop and wonder if we are all reading the same news...........

ZK

pre 15 godina

I think this is a wait and see situation as not even the EU seems certain of its exact nature. The challenges are great and there is a lot to achieve. All of those people here with their crystal balls are really just as uncertain as most others.

This is one of those rare moments that I completely agree with roberto. Now lets see how it goes!

albano

pre 15 godina

#3 Peggy,
Not Tadic, but noone else can do anything about it, so kosovo serb citizens, it seams were just used from all serbian politcans,so it is over , I hope they'll see it

Mike

pre 15 godina

genc,

Interesting way of putting it, but even if "Daytonization" is in fact a temporary - and necessary - evil to accept for the sake of moving forward, I think you'll agree with me that it will take at least one, if not two, generations of Serbs and Albanians before they finally decide to tear down their self-constructed walls (or at least put windows on those walls) and work for a viable solution. I'm sure no one wants Daytonization as a permanent fixture, but can you really argue that K-Serbs are going to work with people like Thaci? Albanians yes, but Thaci specifically? Ceku? Haradinaj? It's like asking Albanians to suddenly start working with Milosevic, or even Kostuinica for that matter.

Yes, Serbs and Albanians, for better or for worse, are "condemned" to live together, as you say. They are also going to have to cooperate together too. But for the time being, that cooperation may very well indeed have to come via dual governmental systems. If EULEX can bridge this wide gap, I'll be one of the first to applaud it. Seriously.

Ron

pre 15 godina

Arvanit,

May I remember you that we in Western Europe and USA pay for your so called independence?

And let me say this: in Holland and Germany (let alone Ireland) less and less people want more expansions of the EU...

People don't want to see more new countries coming in EU for the first years to come. No more 'poor' Eastern European countries. Let alone Kosovo (which is not a country) with 50 % unemployment. And a maffia-like corruption.

I would like to see you all joining the EU. But most people in Western Europe really want you to stay out for the first decades!!

genc

pre 15 godina

Mike,
generally I agree with your #22. Only two things:

1. There is the principle of the double majority in Ahtisaari's plan, consequently in Kosova’s costitution. That means, for a law to pass in Kosova's parliament the majority of Serb votes is needed. That means Albanians and Serbs equal governing partners, or a Serbian veto on everything. It was conceived with the explicit purpose to create the ground of the common good, so to bring people to collaborate, in spite of the rest. This is what most hurted Albanians, but they HAD to accept it and I still can't believe Serbia didn't take the offer. But, clearly, the pride overran the realism and all its benefits. It's much better than Daytonization. Moreover Serbia didn't offer such a solution (double majority in Serbian Parliament, Serbs and Albanians equal gorning partners, as a concession for Kosova to remain inside Serbia) during the negotiations. The same priciple was partially applied to fix things in Macedonia, with good results. It would had been a clever move from Serb side, would had complicated terribly the negotiations...

2. One or two generations is a long time, we can't wait so long. The region is going to be incorporated/integrated into EU within 2020. Moreover, there are K-Serbs collaborating with Thaçi (as Prime Minister) as today (in the enclaves). The problem lies in the North, we know who's behind and what the real reasons are. Emotional reasons are no reasons in politics, we’ve seen that so often.
And the Valley Albanians were also convinced to take their place in Serbia's parliament with Kostunica as PM.

But I guess new, professional politicians on both sides will soon emerge, first on lower levels, apart of stage lights, where the real job is done, which will rapidly move things towards the common good for all. If it seems fancy at all, remember that no one expected France and Germany to side together only 10 years after the war had ended. Unfortunately Kosova hasn't followed the same pattern up to now, the main reason being among others the status stalemate, which generates mutual distrust. With EULEX in, as impartial towards Abanians and Serbs in implementig its mission, the stalemate seems removed.

PRN

pre 15 godina

Today is a historic day. EULEX deploymwent will FINALLY end ALL Serbian day/night dreams of partitiong Kosovo.

It is even more positive since there is a signature of Belgrade too. SRS & DSS are no stupid when they say that Tadic & Jeremic have signed indpendenceo of Kosovo for speedy EU entry. Moreover this is also proved by the statements of the EU & USA officials. The latter are gradualy confirming and revealing that EULEX will operate according to Ahtisaari plan and NATO 2004 February 2008 agreement.

Ron

pre 15 godina

Just let's make sure nothing happens against 1244. The UN is in charge. Not the EU!

And girls and guys in Kosovo: please learn to love each other. Accept the state you live in (Serbia). And join EU as soon as possible!

Florin

pre 15 godina

If there are any Serbs or Serb sympathizers out there who still held out any hope that EULEX would play a role favoring Serbia, this article should dispel those hopes. The only reason why Serbia was "consulted" about those six points, was as a ploy to get it to sit docilely by, while EULEX deployed. Today Mr. Kouchner, a friend of the people of Kosova, said what the real mandate will look like. 1244 (which by the way does not guarantee any sort of Serbian sovreignty unless drastically missinterpreted) and the UN are ultimately powerless to the reality in the ground. Only brutal Military force can change the reality on the ground, and although some in here might like that option, the West will never allow it. Kosova's security forces are soon to be created, and trained to NATO standards. Equipment for them will be courtesy of uncle SAM. Albanians should be very optimistic about their independent future.

Ron

pre 15 godina

Florin,

Keep on dreaming. And 1244 is clear: Kosovo is part of FRY. Serbia is successor state of FYR. So there you go!

Please accept your fate. And build up your country!

And stop fooling yourself!

Miles

pre 15 godina

Americans have recently bombed Serbia and the Croatians and Turks have a history of slaughtering Serbian civilians. Why not add a few Albanians, Bosnian Muslims and Bulgarians to the force to make the Serbs in Kosovo feel really comfortable with the impartiality of EULEX.

This is designed to test the the patience of the Kosovan Serbs to the limit, to make sure that in dispute all settlements will favour the Kosovan Albanians. Where are Greek, Cypriot or Spanish peacekeepers? I cant see the Croat or Turkish forces defending the Holy Orthodox Churches with their lives,from a mob of Albanians. Am I being too cynical?

Lets face it EULEX would be happy if all Serbs, non Albanian people and livestock all volunteered to leave Kosovo.


What are the Croatians doing there? Can anyone explain to me how far back in history we have to go to find the seeds of hatred the Croats have for their neighbours and why? I have the hatred as starting at the beginning of the Twentieth Century.

kate

pre 15 godina

"“They’re in the driver’s seat while we retain certain executive functions, when it comes to crime,corruption, organized crime, war crimes, issues linked to ethnic and property relations. So, every time local institutions are unable to address a specific issue or dossier, we’ll be there to do it for them,“ he explained."

How interesting it's going to be to see the EU, which seems unable to even get any of their messages straight, 'tackle' organised crime. I hope that they manage to keep corruption at least mainly out of the new mission.

As for Kouchner's comment, it's exactly the same that I would expect from any of the pro-independence FMs - just sugaring the pill for domestic consumption.

Nothing has changed - Kosovo has not been recognised as a state, there is no legal status as a separate nation, and EULEX has only been deployed under the UN umbrella. The mission has to adhere to UN Res 1244 which is very much alive and valid, and the 6 points which are not mere suggestions but a legal agreement.

The first time there is a move to disregard these, there will be a direct channel to the UN and action taken by the Security Council.

afrim hoxha

pre 15 godina

Just to add that EULEX was spread all over Northern Kosova also, even that serbs such Ivanovic were saying that EULEX will take some time until it spreads in northern Kosova.
Also, Yve De Kermabon reported today to the kosovar president and primeminister and officially informed them that EULEX was spread all over Kosova and this shows that Kosova is an independent country because otherwise if Kosova wasnt independent country, EULEX would report to serbian president and primenminister, not to kosovar president and primeminister.
Thanks.

roberto

pre 15 godina

Good luck, eulex, and good luck, kosovo/a. i do believe the challenges are daunting, on so many levels, and the antagonism intense. but we CAN do it, we can move forward and together. it is not about serb v. albanian, american v. russian, etc. -- it is about us working together to get past this crazy quagmire.

and now with eulex deployed we have a real chance, if they finally show a little backbone...

take care!

roberto
frisco

Serb Patriarch

pre 15 godina

"but also to increase freedom of movement, cultural exchange and facilitate investment.“

The "cultural exchange" part made me laugh out loud. Which planet are these people from? Or are they that patronizing and mocking to the citizens of Kosovo, seeking their own agenda.

Mike

pre 15 godina

So EULEX is finally taking control of its Protectorate. Excellent. Let's hope they can add some civility to one of the most corrupt and lawless regions of Europe. I'm sure Thaci and Sejdiu were tickled pink to be included in the opening ceremonies - I still wonder how they were coaxed into smiling for the cameras when two weeks ago they were rejecting the EULEX mission on account of the 6-point plan negotiated by Belgrade and Brussels. I guess once they realized they were still going to be given positions of power, they stopped worrying. Petty potentates are a dime a dozen - grease their palms, and they'll dance whatever you tell them to dance. It's always funny to read statements by Sejdiu: Kosovo's occupation by outside powers is a testament to the internal unity and undeniable sovereignty of this multi-ethnic standard of democratic excellence. I guess he can say that after his position is guaranteed.
Someone ought to remind him that most of the 53 countries that have recognized don't care muich about Kosovo's internal configuration and are not going to lift a finger if K-Serbs continue to consolidate their own forms of government.

I also find it interesting that "Kosovo Law", was designed by people who are not from Kosovo, and at worst is an oxymoron - not to mention it needed to be cleared with Belgrade. Someone tell me again how Belgrade has no authority over parts of this contested piece of land?

Still, I just hope that EULEX will maintain the already functional separation that exists in Kosovo and that the Serb Assembly in Mitrovica is finally recognized for what it is - the legitimately elected government by Kosovo's Serb population. It can't be any more corrupt, nor more hastily strewn together, than what's in Pristina. Then, and only then, can Western Europe proclaim peace in our time.

Here's to EULEX supporting the Protectorate's further and official Daytonization.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

. Asked which laws would be applied after EULEX’s arrival, Kouchner said that Kosovo law would be applied.

“Kosovo has been recognized by over 50 countries, therefore Kosovo law will be applied. I think there will difficulties, but this operation will enable a framework where this will unfold. And the agreement with Serbia will be decisive,“ said Kouchner.

Are you listening Mr. Tadic?
As far as EULEX is concerned, the 50 countries which have recognized Kosovo are more important than the UN.

What are you going to do about this?

The Serbs in Kosovo will not accept this so you will have to make some major decisions and fast. I did say that whatever is signed will not matter because EULEX will do what they always intended to do. Resolution 1244 was not adhered to and now EULEX has further weakened it.

Great going Boris. Let's see how you are going to get out of this tight spot.

genc

pre 15 godina

Mike,

"Daytonization" was born as a temporary solution to end a terribile war asap. Like the 1244.

Permanent "Daytonization" is the nightmare of European diplomacy.

EULEX stands behind the Kosova Costitution, (of which the EU is the author and of which not all Albanians are enthusiastic) and no Daytonization is foreseen there. Bosnia docet.

The functional partition will remain unofficial as long as conditions are met for the Serb Assembly to move to Prishtina and take the seats reserved for them in the Parliament.

EULEX will stay there as long as needed, to enforce this.

It's a simple question of principle: Daytonization (much cheaper to implement) is ethnic separation. And that is turning EU 100 yrs. back in the actual globalized world. You will understand the long-reaching consequences for the European order and its world-wide credibility.

That's why Albanians and Serbs are condemned to live together in Kosova, not side by side, as many, from both sides, seem to wish.

albano

pre 15 godina

#3 Peggy,
Not Tadic, but noone else can do anything about it, so kosovo serb citizens, it seams were just used from all serbian politcans,so it is over , I hope they'll see it

Patrik

pre 15 godina

"Today is a historic day. EULEX deploymwent will FINALLY end ALL Serbian day/night dreams of partitiong Kosovo.

It is even more positive since there is a signature of Belgrade too. SRS & DSS are no stupid when they say that Tadic & Jeremic have signed indpendenceo of Kosovo for speedy EU entry. Moreover this is also proved by the statements of the EU & USA officials. The latter are gradualy confirming and revealing that EULEX will operate according to Ahtisaari plan and NATO 2004 February 2008 agreement.
(PRN, 9 December 2008 10:47) "

Sometimes I have to stop and wonder if we are all reading the same news...........

Ron

pre 15 godina

Arvanit,

May I remember you that we in Western Europe and USA pay for your so called independence?

And let me say this: in Holland and Germany (let alone Ireland) less and less people want more expansions of the EU...

People don't want to see more new countries coming in EU for the first years to come. No more 'poor' Eastern European countries. Let alone Kosovo (which is not a country) with 50 % unemployment. And a maffia-like corruption.

I would like to see you all joining the EU. But most people in Western Europe really want you to stay out for the first decades!!

ZK

pre 15 godina

I think this is a wait and see situation as not even the EU seems certain of its exact nature. The challenges are great and there is a lot to achieve. All of those people here with their crystal balls are really just as uncertain as most others.

This is one of those rare moments that I completely agree with roberto. Now lets see how it goes!

genc

pre 15 godina

The first time there is a move to disregard these, there will be a direct channel to the UN and action taken by the Security Council.
(kate, 9 December 2008 10:48)

Are you sure? Action taken by UNSC? 5 veto holders agreeing to disagree on this topic?

Mike

pre 15 godina

genc,

Interesting way of putting it, but even if "Daytonization" is in fact a temporary - and necessary - evil to accept for the sake of moving forward, I think you'll agree with me that it will take at least one, if not two, generations of Serbs and Albanians before they finally decide to tear down their self-constructed walls (or at least put windows on those walls) and work for a viable solution. I'm sure no one wants Daytonization as a permanent fixture, but can you really argue that K-Serbs are going to work with people like Thaci? Albanians yes, but Thaci specifically? Ceku? Haradinaj? It's like asking Albanians to suddenly start working with Milosevic, or even Kostuinica for that matter.

Yes, Serbs and Albanians, for better or for worse, are "condemned" to live together, as you say. They are also going to have to cooperate together too. But for the time being, that cooperation may very well indeed have to come via dual governmental systems. If EULEX can bridge this wide gap, I'll be one of the first to applaud it. Seriously.

genc

pre 15 godina

Mike,
generally I agree with your #22. Only two things:

1. There is the principle of the double majority in Ahtisaari's plan, consequently in Kosova’s costitution. That means, for a law to pass in Kosova's parliament the majority of Serb votes is needed. That means Albanians and Serbs equal governing partners, or a Serbian veto on everything. It was conceived with the explicit purpose to create the ground of the common good, so to bring people to collaborate, in spite of the rest. This is what most hurted Albanians, but they HAD to accept it and I still can't believe Serbia didn't take the offer. But, clearly, the pride overran the realism and all its benefits. It's much better than Daytonization. Moreover Serbia didn't offer such a solution (double majority in Serbian Parliament, Serbs and Albanians equal gorning partners, as a concession for Kosova to remain inside Serbia) during the negotiations. The same priciple was partially applied to fix things in Macedonia, with good results. It would had been a clever move from Serb side, would had complicated terribly the negotiations...

2. One or two generations is a long time, we can't wait so long. The region is going to be incorporated/integrated into EU within 2020. Moreover, there are K-Serbs collaborating with Thaçi (as Prime Minister) as today (in the enclaves). The problem lies in the North, we know who's behind and what the real reasons are. Emotional reasons are no reasons in politics, we’ve seen that so often.
And the Valley Albanians were also convinced to take their place in Serbia's parliament with Kostunica as PM.

But I guess new, professional politicians on both sides will soon emerge, first on lower levels, apart of stage lights, where the real job is done, which will rapidly move things towards the common good for all. If it seems fancy at all, remember that no one expected France and Germany to side together only 10 years after the war had ended. Unfortunately Kosova hasn't followed the same pattern up to now, the main reason being among others the status stalemate, which generates mutual distrust. With EULEX in, as impartial towards Abanians and Serbs in implementig its mission, the stalemate seems removed.

Joachim

pre 15 godina

"Asked which laws would be applied after EULEX’s arrival, Kouchner said that Kosovo law would be applied."
So the mission is not status neutral! Once again Kostunica was right!

Lenard

pre 15 godina

Hows in charge Solona and the Brussels Co backed by Serbia's old nemises. Aren't they the ones that gave the orders and then welcomed bombers over Beograd and all of Serbia in their words delivering much needed humanitarianisms packages. Don't kid your selfs they are where they wanted to be from long time past in charge and on Serbia's door threshold.