Micronesia recognizes Kosovo

thank you micronesia.this recognision tell that Kosovo is Indepedent,and Serbia hasn't got any reason to say thAt Kosovo is Serbia.Republic of Kosovo.From England

Palestine is recognised by over 100 hunderd countries but look what is happening there!! Without international law being preserved then countries like Palestine and indeed Kosovo cannot function like a legitimate state should!!

The only solution is status talks which both K Albanians and Serbs agree on!

So much for the Serbian diplomacy!

Thanx a lot Micronesia.

RRRRRRR, I can just feel the power and authority Thaci must be feeling right now that Micronesia, that hegemon of the South Pacific, has mandated his sovereignty. Look out Mitrovica!

Another recognition. Serbia watch out! If Kosovo recognition continues at this alarming rate Kosovo will be recongnized by all UN nations in the year 3029! Albanians are rejoicing over Micronisias recognition. That just tells you how desperate they are for every little recognition the can get. You can truly celebrate when Serbia and Russia recognizes you and you are allowed to join the UN. Then, and only then, Kosovo is truly independent.

Thank you Micronesia!

Another setback for Jeremic & Co, priceless!

There's been like 5 more recognitions since that ICJ thingy passed.

That's a 10% increase. I thought Serbia was trying to freeze this process...

Another diplomatic blow to Serbia.. The total amount of countries now recognising Kosovo = 53 out of 193.

The total population of the 53 countries to recognise Kosovo = 1.1 billion out of a world population of 6,706,993,152

The total population of countries recognising Kosovo is roughly %15.5 of the world total...

As you can see as per above only a small minority of peoples/nations recognise Kosovo. It's obviuos that in a democratic world Kosovo is not independant nor is it internationally recognised to be so.. Though then again there is nothing democratic regarding Kosovo.

I guess its back to the drawing board for the Albanians, perhaps they can murder some more elderly Serbs in order to clarify to the world the ethnic purity of Kosovo? or perhaps they can inflate the above figures just like they inflate there population figures in kosovo and north western Macedonia?

I think its time for additional propaganda in order to convince the rest of the world.. Maybe they can hire CNN and start crying in front of the cameras? or perhaps they can stage another so called massacre, though the bodies of the UCK soldiers may be completely depleted 9 years later??

Cheers and all th best from Bulgarian Macedonia.

ok lets hear it. They dont count. One by one the countries will recognise and than when the right number is reached Kosova will be a memebr of the UN. Sooner than later but it will be
(une, 6 December 2008 12:18)

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Foir the last time, Kosovo's UN membership can ALWAYS be blocked by Russia with an Veto, no mather how many country's recognize Kosovo, Russia can still VETO it.

wow. =)

I´d say that "recognition" only proves that the oh so powerful US of A needed several months to "convince" some micronesian islands to do what they´ve been told.

very powerful indeed.


Valon, I am sorry, but you will realize some day that KiM is indeed only a southern serbian province.

it simply needs time for the K-albanians to overcome their frustration and hatred, until they can start to analyze the situation with more reason.

but some day, you will.

i don't think this is a sign that the tide is turning at all. when kosovo declared independence i posted on b92 that this is likely to turn into a stand-off between the 3rd world and their former colonial masters and this has largely remained so. there are of course exceptions, like european states who were admitted to nato and became members of "the club", some states that are only nominally independent (like micronesia) and very few others. only if states that are leading efforts for more independence of 3rd world countries start to recognise kosovo can we talk about the tide turning. india is more important in this regard than russia no matter what people say. and the reason for this is that they know very well what it looks like when powerful countries disregard the international law.

micronesian recognition was to be expected and it probably came so late simply because it's not very important for that country.

Who?

For a few $$$ more....

Serbia has changed its political diplomacy! It doesn't matter whether 100 or 193 recognize Kosovo! What matters is who controls Kosovo, borders, territory, police, justice, customs? Does Kosovo control these?
No, it does not. With the 6 point plan, Serbia will always have a say in the internal affairs of Kosovo - thank god even the world agrees with us!

As long as Serbia controls Kosovo's borders, northern and easter, there is nothing to worry about! Recognitions are piece of paper! Kosovo does not have sovereignty - it belongs to Serbia which shares it temporarily with the international community for the sake of good spirits and mutual interests - we get into the EU!
Recognitions do not change the reality on the ground! Kosovo has no sovereignty!



Cheers! I hope all countries recognize it - because it does not matter!

Thank you Micronesia!!!!


Let's hope that another 'esia' will follow Indo-nesia ;)

We had the big players in the forst week now we are hunting micro... ;)

Every UN memeber counts a LOT and THANK YOU.

This is hilarious. The great nation of Micronesia recognizes Kosovo. Serbia does not know what to do now since the powerful republic of Micronesia decided to side with Albanian separatists.

Is this REALLY all the United States can get to side with them?.. sad


Kosovo is Serbia.. even if powerful nations like Micronesia and Marshall Islands say its not.

Wait, lets just recap what I have been reading for the last few weeks - Macronesia is this great success recognition, but Egypt is just some country Albanians don't care about (and by default the rest of the world won't) and can do without its support.

Seriously...just...seriously.

Another powerful independent sand pit in the pacific recognizes the NATO land theft in Serbia.

Who´s next? Tuvalu? Kiribati? whaii island?...

ok lets hear it. They dont count. One by one the countries will recognise and than when the right number is reached Kosova will be a memebr of the UN. Sooner than later but it will be

The us is running out of countries whose arms they can twist. Nobody sees Jeremic's plan; if the ICJ rules against Kosovo's UDI, Serbia will file lawsuits against every country that recognized the UDI if they don't withdraw their recognitions. Most of those countries will provide proof that the us intimidated them and the us will be stuck with paying massive reparations to Serbia on a historic scale.

I love those islands. At least I can use Kosovo Passport to enter this country for holydays.

Ronald, the important part is to put Russia in the world minority by reaching 97 recognitions.

After that, the psychology of the game changes. Vetoes can be used, but it's hard to justify it's usage by invoking "international law", when in fact the majority of the internationals will have recognized.

So what you need to worry about is majority recognitions, because that's what devalues Russia's veto. Such a veto would make Russia's diplomacy appear childish, and that's the kind of reputation Russia does not like.
(Funcakes, 6 December 2008 15:53)

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You mean that would be the same as when the US vetoes resolutions about Isreal that where endorsed by more than 180 country's.

Don't get youre hopes up, international diplomacy isn't about reputations (in that case the US would be seen as an infant).
The russians will block Kosovo untill they get what they want.

i.o.w.
No rocketschield
Recognition off abchazie & south-ossetia.
etc etc

So even if 196 country';s recognize kosovo, as long as Russia doesn't get's what it wants, you will stay in Limbo, get used to it.

(p.s. Taiwan has more than 100 recognitions and still China blocks it's memberschip)

Thank you Vuk Jeremic. Your "skillful" diplomacy has convinced another full fledged UN member, Micronesia, to recognize Kosova. I really don't know how Serbia has done without you all these years.

Another powerful independent sand pit in the pacific recognizes the NATO land theft in Serbia.

Who´s next? Tuvalu? Kiribati? whaii island?...
(fhj, 6 December 2008 16:08)

And we will thank them as we did with the others. Another UN member and going up.
Thank you Micronesia.

I feel that any recognition befor eth eICJ ruling is another brick removed from the UN. The UN is losing its power as an international, as THE international governing force. Without it, the world will be in more chaos and war. Any country wishing to recognize, should wait until after the ICJ ruling if they wish to claim they are responsible UN members and support International law.

Micronesia forgot to wait for ICJ ruling.

Pitty!!!

Now trouble follows. Serbia will expel Micronesia's ambassador from Belgrade.

Ronald, the important part is to put Russia in the world minority by reaching 97 recognitions.

After that, the psychology of the game changes. Vetoes can be used, but it's hard to justify it's usage by invoking "international law", when in fact the majority of the internationals will have recognized.

So what you need to worry about is majority recognitions, because that's what devalues Russia's veto. Such a veto would make Russia's diplomacy appear childish, and that's the kind of reputation Russia does not like.

It is true that perhaps these smaller states do not carry the punch that some other larger states might, but Kosovo cannot pick and choose who recognizes its independence.

For Kosovo, it is the more the merrier, and it needs to slowly build up and break that 96 state barrier. Once 97 UN member states have recognized it, then there will be no more room for illegitimacy etc., even though those shouts will still happen. But they need to do much more work to achieve that 97. A lot of work in fact.

Serbia has indeed been successful in keeping this number as low as possible, but it doesn't look like the tide will turn. Little by little these numbers may add up and more than 50% of UN member states may recognize Kosovo even before the ICJ declares any ruling on the issue.

As a suporter of Kosova independence, I believe Kosova should be embarrassed about this "recognition" and those from Marshall Is etc. These are not counries but pure US colonies. I realise you cannot be undiplomatic and say so, but hopefully Kosova and its supporters won't embarrass themselevs by playing this up, as with the first post here.

Recently we heard that countries like Libya or East Timor may recognise soon. It would be more relevant if there were any progress on such fronts rather than this "news."

Ronald,

Taiwan is currently recognized by 22 UN members and the Vatican City, so your claim of a 100 is false.

Ronald:

Taiwan is recognized as a sovereign state only by 23 UN member states, not over 100 as you claim. Even with that low number, and having China as a very real obstacle Taiwan has flourished economically.

Kosovo on the other hand has up to date 53 UN member states that recognize its sovereignty, and no real obstacle like China, although Russia does play that role a bit but it's in EU's backyard and having most European countries recognize Kosovo, there is nothing that will turn the river backwards like the FM of Greece said as well.

Look for Greece and others to recognize in 2009.

If only Saudi Arabia recognizes Kosovo, many OIC countries would take the lead from SA and do the same, and that alone puts Kosovo to over 100 UN member state recognitions.

Kosovo is independent and nothing will change that, the only question is how much independence it will have from EU and if any partition will occur, but Serbia will probably never have any control south of the Ibar River any longer.

On Behalf of all Albanians I would lie to thank all the 20 inhabitants of Micronesia :)

Seriously, it's funny to read the Albanian comments on Alb sites ('Where is that?,' 'We're learning geography too now') but little by little the numbers are increasing.

The only detail that you seem to forget is that the US can afford to veto anything and the important medias won't even report it or they will glorify it.

When Russia vetoes something, the West makes sure everyone hears it loud and clear, and that's what I meant by "Russia cannot afford any stubborn positions".

Is it fair? Who cares, it's just how it is. As long as the West can change the psychology of the game with majority recognitions, all the countries that will find themselves in the minority would be poorly portrayed by the world press.

And no ones likes that kind of publicity.

You can truly celebrate when Serbia and Russia recognizes you and you are allowed to join the UN.
(MikeC, 6 December 2008 21:22)

And we will MikeC, eventually :).

You people don't get it, do you? As long as the state that recognizes Kosova is a member state of UN, we will thank them. It doesn't matter how many inhabitants live in that country or where it is located, or even if they know where Kosova is... it ain't important, believe me!

So stop trying to turn every good news for Kosova into a bad one!



Greets from the world newest capital city, Prishtina!

i never heard of this country, but thank you every one counts.
Thank You.

The only detail that you seem to forget is that the US can afford to veto anything and the important medias won't even report it or they will glorify it.

When Russia vetoes something, the West makes sure everyone hears it loud and clear, and that's what I meant by "Russia cannot afford any stubborn positions".

Is it fair? Who cares, it's just how it is. As long as the West can change the psychology of the game with majority recognitions, all the countries that will find themselves in the minority would be poorly portrayed by the world press.

And no ones likes that kind of publicity.

Ronald:

Taiwan is recognized as a sovereign state only by 23 UN member states, not over 100 as you claim. Even with that low number, and having China as a very real obstacle Taiwan has flourished economically.

Kosovo on the other hand has up to date 53 UN member states that recognize its sovereignty, and no real obstacle like China, although Russia does play that role a bit but it's in EU's backyard and having most European countries recognize Kosovo, there is nothing that will turn the river backwards like the FM of Greece said as well.

Look for Greece and others to recognize in 2009.

If only Saudi Arabia recognizes Kosovo, many OIC countries would take the lead from SA and do the same, and that alone puts Kosovo to over 100 UN member state recognitions.

Kosovo is independent and nothing will change that, the only question is how much independence it will have from EU and if any partition will occur, but Serbia will probably never have any control south of the Ibar River any longer.

As a suporter of Kosova independence, I believe Kosova should be embarrassed about this "recognition" and those from Marshall Is etc. These are not counries but pure US colonies. I realise you cannot be undiplomatic and say so, but hopefully Kosova and its supporters won't embarrass themselevs by playing this up, as with the first post here.

Recently we heard that countries like Libya or East Timor may recognise soon. It would be more relevant if there were any progress on such fronts rather than this "news."

thank you micronesia.this recognision tell that Kosovo is Indepedent,and Serbia hasn't got any reason to say thAt Kosovo is Serbia.Republic of Kosovo.From England

wow. =)

I´d say that "recognition" only proves that the oh so powerful US of A needed several months to "convince" some micronesian islands to do what they´ve been told.

very powerful indeed.


Valon, I am sorry, but you will realize some day that KiM is indeed only a southern serbian province.

it simply needs time for the K-albanians to overcome their frustration and hatred, until they can start to analyze the situation with more reason.

but some day, you will.

ok lets hear it. They dont count. One by one the countries will recognise and than when the right number is reached Kosova will be a memebr of the UN. Sooner than later but it will be
(une, 6 December 2008 12:18)

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Foir the last time, Kosovo's UN membership can ALWAYS be blocked by Russia with an Veto, no mather how many country's recognize Kosovo, Russia can still VETO it.

So much for the Serbian diplomacy!

Thanx a lot Micronesia.

i never heard of this country, but thank you every one counts.
Thank You.

You can truly celebrate when Serbia and Russia recognizes you and you are allowed to join the UN.
(MikeC, 6 December 2008 21:22)

And we will MikeC, eventually :).

You people don't get it, do you? As long as the state that recognizes Kosova is a member state of UN, we will thank them. It doesn't matter how many inhabitants live in that country or where it is located, or even if they know where Kosova is... it ain't important, believe me!

So stop trying to turn every good news for Kosova into a bad one!



Greets from the world newest capital city, Prishtina!

Micronesia forgot to wait for ICJ ruling.

Pitty!!!

Now trouble follows. Serbia will expel Micronesia's ambassador from Belgrade.

Thank you Micronesia!!!!


Let's hope that another 'esia' will follow Indo-nesia ;)

We had the big players in the forst week now we are hunting micro... ;)

Every UN memeber counts a LOT and THANK YOU.

There's been like 5 more recognitions since that ICJ thingy passed.

That's a 10% increase. I thought Serbia was trying to freeze this process...

Thank you Micronesia!

Another setback for Jeremic & Co, priceless!

Ronald, the important part is to put Russia in the world minority by reaching 97 recognitions.

After that, the psychology of the game changes. Vetoes can be used, but it's hard to justify it's usage by invoking "international law", when in fact the majority of the internationals will have recognized.

So what you need to worry about is majority recognitions, because that's what devalues Russia's veto. Such a veto would make Russia's diplomacy appear childish, and that's the kind of reputation Russia does not like.

Another powerful independent sand pit in the pacific recognizes the NATO land theft in Serbia.

Who´s next? Tuvalu? Kiribati? whaii island?...
(fhj, 6 December 2008 16:08)

And we will thank them as we did with the others. Another UN member and going up.
Thank you Micronesia.

On Behalf of all Albanians I would lie to thank all the 20 inhabitants of Micronesia :)

Seriously, it's funny to read the Albanian comments on Alb sites ('Where is that?,' 'We're learning geography too now') but little by little the numbers are increasing.

ok lets hear it. They dont count. One by one the countries will recognise and than when the right number is reached Kosova will be a memebr of the UN. Sooner than later but it will be

This is hilarious. The great nation of Micronesia recognizes Kosovo. Serbia does not know what to do now since the powerful republic of Micronesia decided to side with Albanian separatists.

Is this REALLY all the United States can get to side with them?.. sad


Kosovo is Serbia.. even if powerful nations like Micronesia and Marshall Islands say its not.

Thank you Vuk Jeremic. Your "skillful" diplomacy has convinced another full fledged UN member, Micronesia, to recognize Kosova. I really don't know how Serbia has done without you all these years.

The us is running out of countries whose arms they can twist. Nobody sees Jeremic's plan; if the ICJ rules against Kosovo's UDI, Serbia will file lawsuits against every country that recognized the UDI if they don't withdraw their recognitions. Most of those countries will provide proof that the us intimidated them and the us will be stuck with paying massive reparations to Serbia on a historic scale.

It is true that perhaps these smaller states do not carry the punch that some other larger states might, but Kosovo cannot pick and choose who recognizes its independence.

For Kosovo, it is the more the merrier, and it needs to slowly build up and break that 96 state barrier. Once 97 UN member states have recognized it, then there will be no more room for illegitimacy etc., even though those shouts will still happen. But they need to do much more work to achieve that 97. A lot of work in fact.

Serbia has indeed been successful in keeping this number as low as possible, but it doesn't look like the tide will turn. Little by little these numbers may add up and more than 50% of UN member states may recognize Kosovo even before the ICJ declares any ruling on the issue.

Another powerful independent sand pit in the pacific recognizes the NATO land theft in Serbia.

Who´s next? Tuvalu? Kiribati? whaii island?...

Ronald, the important part is to put Russia in the world minority by reaching 97 recognitions.

After that, the psychology of the game changes. Vetoes can be used, but it's hard to justify it's usage by invoking "international law", when in fact the majority of the internationals will have recognized.

So what you need to worry about is majority recognitions, because that's what devalues Russia's veto. Such a veto would make Russia's diplomacy appear childish, and that's the kind of reputation Russia does not like.
(Funcakes, 6 December 2008 15:53)

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You mean that would be the same as when the US vetoes resolutions about Isreal that where endorsed by more than 180 country's.

Don't get youre hopes up, international diplomacy isn't about reputations (in that case the US would be seen as an infant).
The russians will block Kosovo untill they get what they want.

i.o.w.
No rocketschield
Recognition off abchazie & south-ossetia.
etc etc

So even if 196 country';s recognize kosovo, as long as Russia doesn't get's what it wants, you will stay in Limbo, get used to it.

(p.s. Taiwan has more than 100 recognitions and still China blocks it's memberschip)

Ronald,

Taiwan is currently recognized by 22 UN members and the Vatican City, so your claim of a 100 is false.

Palestine is recognised by over 100 hunderd countries but look what is happening there!! Without international law being preserved then countries like Palestine and indeed Kosovo cannot function like a legitimate state should!!

The only solution is status talks which both K Albanians and Serbs agree on!

RRRRRRR, I can just feel the power and authority Thaci must be feeling right now that Micronesia, that hegemon of the South Pacific, has mandated his sovereignty. Look out Mitrovica!

Another recognition. Serbia watch out! If Kosovo recognition continues at this alarming rate Kosovo will be recongnized by all UN nations in the year 3029! Albanians are rejoicing over Micronisias recognition. That just tells you how desperate they are for every little recognition the can get. You can truly celebrate when Serbia and Russia recognizes you and you are allowed to join the UN. Then, and only then, Kosovo is truly independent.

Serbia has changed its political diplomacy! It doesn't matter whether 100 or 193 recognize Kosovo! What matters is who controls Kosovo, borders, territory, police, justice, customs? Does Kosovo control these?
No, it does not. With the 6 point plan, Serbia will always have a say in the internal affairs of Kosovo - thank god even the world agrees with us!

As long as Serbia controls Kosovo's borders, northern and easter, there is nothing to worry about! Recognitions are piece of paper! Kosovo does not have sovereignty - it belongs to Serbia which shares it temporarily with the international community for the sake of good spirits and mutual interests - we get into the EU!
Recognitions do not change the reality on the ground! Kosovo has no sovereignty!



Cheers! I hope all countries recognize it - because it does not matter!

Another diplomatic blow to Serbia.. The total amount of countries now recognising Kosovo = 53 out of 193.

The total population of the 53 countries to recognise Kosovo = 1.1 billion out of a world population of 6,706,993,152

The total population of countries recognising Kosovo is roughly %15.5 of the world total...

As you can see as per above only a small minority of peoples/nations recognise Kosovo. It's obviuos that in a democratic world Kosovo is not independant nor is it internationally recognised to be so.. Though then again there is nothing democratic regarding Kosovo.

I guess its back to the drawing board for the Albanians, perhaps they can murder some more elderly Serbs in order to clarify to the world the ethnic purity of Kosovo? or perhaps they can inflate the above figures just like they inflate there population figures in kosovo and north western Macedonia?

I think its time for additional propaganda in order to convince the rest of the world.. Maybe they can hire CNN and start crying in front of the cameras? or perhaps they can stage another so called massacre, though the bodies of the UCK soldiers may be completely depleted 9 years later??

Cheers and all th best from Bulgarian Macedonia.

i don't think this is a sign that the tide is turning at all. when kosovo declared independence i posted on b92 that this is likely to turn into a stand-off between the 3rd world and their former colonial masters and this has largely remained so. there are of course exceptions, like european states who were admitted to nato and became members of "the club", some states that are only nominally independent (like micronesia) and very few others. only if states that are leading efforts for more independence of 3rd world countries start to recognise kosovo can we talk about the tide turning. india is more important in this regard than russia no matter what people say. and the reason for this is that they know very well what it looks like when powerful countries disregard the international law.

micronesian recognition was to be expected and it probably came so late simply because it's not very important for that country.

Wait, lets just recap what I have been reading for the last few weeks - Macronesia is this great success recognition, but Egypt is just some country Albanians don't care about (and by default the rest of the world won't) and can do without its support.

Seriously...just...seriously.

Who?

For a few $$$ more....

I feel that any recognition befor eth eICJ ruling is another brick removed from the UN. The UN is losing its power as an international, as THE international governing force. Without it, the world will be in more chaos and war. Any country wishing to recognize, should wait until after the ICJ ruling if they wish to claim they are responsible UN members and support International law.

I love those islands. At least I can use Kosovo Passport to enter this country for holydays.