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Friday, 05.12.2008.

15:03

Elderly K. Serb couple found dead

The corpses of an elderly Serb couple have been found today in their home in the village of Kriljevo in the Kosovska Kamenica municipality in Kosovo.

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Benjamin

pre 15 godina

Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background
(Benjamin, 5 December 2008 20:54)
i think the whole world is envious of kosovo and the balkans in general because of this. i mean, imagine if it were like in scandinavia. who would want that?
(malcolm x, 6 December 2008 12:26)

Mr. Malcolm X,
Our region - read or understand as KAMENICA Region, do not read Kosovo. This is what wanted to say... autopsy has shown that the Mr. Stankovic has for a long time suffered from cancer and that he died 5 or six days before Ms. Stankovic, unfotunately she as i presumed was 80% paralyzed and as no Albanian neighbor could have hear her asking for help she couldnt walk outside her home and imagine on what circumstance she has passed away, frankly very sad.. In my first posture i've invited all the youngster that have left thier parents, or even their grandparents in the situation like the one we're talking..i have heard responsible people for social welfare claiming there are at least 200 other similar case in Kamenica region... in no way this is a sadden accident very sad indeed... but now refereeing to what EMMA said upon my posture... i still think this is completely due to the negligence of their relatives (sons, daughters, normally including Municipal Responsible structure)

Russell Gordon

pre 15 godina

"..murdered in their home..no signs of violence had been found on the bodies."
A bit contradictory, no? Perhaps something lost in translation? Or perhaps they consented to the murders, and thus it was done tenderly, without leaving any unpleasant bruises, wounds, etc.
Hmm...

hmm

pre 15 godina

Hey Peggy i honestly believe the relevant people don't know the meaning of the word respect, they are simply consumed with hatred thoughts. I see the same thing from Albanian posters over and over again, when a Serb or Macedonian is murdered there is always an excuse.. a good example was in a Albanian village Aricanovo in northern macedonia, the entire village is Albanian, there was one shop owned by a Macedonia yet this 80 year old shop owner shot to death.. the Albanian posters on the Macedonian web site were upset that it was assumed that Albanians killed him, they cried foul, discrimination and if we keep this up federation is the only answer,..

And if you ever attempt to debate them on a topic, they will simply justify it on the fact they claim they are Ilyrians and we took there land hence we do not belong there..

Peggy

pre 15 godina

@27Albanian, I never said it was the immediate neighbours who looked after them. There was plenty of others who could and I'm sure wanted to.

Also, I don't watch CSI but I suspect you meant XFiles which I didn't watch when it was on.

You can try to defend this any way you can but it was only a matter of days since they were last seen alone, so yes that means they died at the same time. Are you trying to say that one died of natural causes and then within two days the other one died of natural causes as well.

Were they suffering from the same disease? There are ways to kill people without leaving marks on the body or you just don't want to admit that.

Again, how can the Albanians here be so cruel and dismiss this out of hand? Just like with every violent act that happens against the Serbs, the Albanians dismiss it as propaganda and lies.
Start to learn some respect, at least for the dead. This respect might even stop you from vandalizing Serbian cemeteries.

Albanian

pre 15 godina

@ Peggy.
It seems to me that you watch to much CSI.

Albanian, you want proof that it was Albanians who killed the couple. Since they were the only Serbs in the area who else could've done this? Aliens perhaps?
Tell me how long did couple live in that aerea?
If it's like your saying pehaps they would've being murdered along time ago.
They used to be looked after by the Albanian people, so for what reason would the Albanians kill them?
For the house? Give me a break. I don't know about the others but i do find your comments a bit ofensive towards Albanians. And if somebody did kill those innocent people, no matter their ethnic background, i hope they would get punishment they deserve.

Hmm

pre 15 godina

It's bad enough they died though what logic runs in the minds of some people is beyond me! The Albanians should practice what they preach, back in march 2004 when two Albanian kids drowned in nth kosova, Albanians went on a rampage and pillaged everything serb in kosovo yet serbs had nothing to do with that tragedy!Now u come here and provoke and mock in the name of hatred and racism, you are very well aware of what happen and deep down you justify every such incident! Shame on b92 for allowing such hateful and evil posts! It's one thing to be murdered, though to insult the dead is sickening..

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background
(Benjamin, 5 December 2008 20:54)
i think the whole world is envious of kosovo and the balkans in general because of this. i mean, imagine if it were like in scandinavia. who would want that?

Steve

pre 15 godina

I hope people are taking note of most Albanian peoples inability to see ANY wrong doing on their part or the part of their compatriots.

The world is watching you!

Milan

pre 15 godina

May you souls rest in peace my fellow Serbs.


ANother example of Albanian "bravery" and "understandable revenge."
It must be that highland spirit.

Petar

pre 15 godina

No one really knows how these people died. Lets at least wait for the autopsy report beafore starting to attack one another. The truth cannot be hidden.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Here we go again. Albanians coming out in force to deny again.
Albanian, you want proof that it was Albanians who killed the couple. Since they were the only Serbs in the area who else could've done this? Aliens perhaps?

You also were saying that it is in nobody interest to kill two elderly people. I suppose for some they were not dying quick enough and there was a waiting list of people who were anxious to grab their house. This would certainly be in someone's interest now, wouldn't it?

As far as waiting for an autopsy to get the truth, I wouldn't hold my breath. How impartial is this going to be?

Last but not least for all of you who say that this was death by natural causes because they were in their 70s I say, rubbish. Quite a coincidence that they both should die at the same time.

All I can say is that this is so evil and blood thirsty that I can't imagine anyone who is decent and has a heart defending this crime or brushing it under the carpet.
Disgusting and shameful is the society who allows this to happen.

arti

pre 15 godina

I agree with some posters here,two people dying at the same time is a litle strange,not that it doesn't happen,but in the other hand the elder were living there alone for quite a bit among Albanians ( assuming that Albanians did ,according to some Serbian posters here )and they were also helping them,I mean why?how much of the harm where they to Albanians?why would they kill them? before jumping to conclusions let the police do the job and if it was a crime the people who did that would get what they deserve,I fel bad for the elders and shame on the family that abandoned them alone.

Beni, UK

pre 15 godina

People, it is true they were found dead at the same time but that does not mean they died at the same time. Why is so hard to understand this?

When neighbours were concerned for not seeing them for some time they called the police. The police came at once and they found two bodies, of Bogdan 77 & Stanica Stankovic 74.
Now, according to another newspaper, quoting an international pathologist, by the look of the bodies, it seems that they did not die at the same time. Maybe one of the bodies was decomposed more than the other, hence him saying they did not die at the same time.
Rather than jumping to conclusions, wait and see. For those who don't trust Albaian police, wait, because even Albanian police can tell if there was bullets in their bodies or not or any other weapon. After all, these bodies will be claimed by members of the family and we will find the truth.
Until then, let show some respect for those unfortunate elderly.
May they R.I.P

Emma

pre 15 godina

Benjamin… The fact is:

Husband and Wife are found dead in their home- I strongly doubt this was due to a natural cause or negligence from a family members not visiting often…
My condolence to their family

Benjamin

pre 15 godina

Dear comment writers and comment readers,

Following are couple of reasons to make some issues clear -

First –
I am from that region I live in Kamenica the municipality, aint no Mr. Jevticć works or ever worked in Municipal Authorities - if he came as a result of Serbia’s 11 May elections - (than he is a wanna be President but in no way President – Mr. Begzad Sinani -PDK is official town mayor).
Second –
Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background (i personally consider that we don’t differ nor 10-20% with serbs living there, so many things in common). Consequently i presume that this picture of normal living conditions for every one in the region is obstructing Serbia's aspiration to south-eastern Kosovo as they got them in north.
Third -
I will invite and encourage youngsters that left their older people in a situation that these two poor elders were left, to at least intensify "control"-visits, cause this may have been arranged from UDBA to potentially destabilise the atmosphere and political ambience (this is not based to any analyze - but could well be true).

No single individual in Kriljevo would have taken such an inferior criminal act, particularly not now when things pertaining to security issues are put on a normal footing.

K-AL

pre 15 godina

Come one guys...

Does anyone who took these bodies and where they send them for authophsy?
A month ago KP serbian officers found a serbian dead woman's body in north Mitrovica and serbians didnt care for this, but it was albanians who took the body and sent to OPMF Prishtina for authophsy.
Do you know why KP serbian officers didnt care for this case, because it happened in north Mitrovica and they knew their serbian neighbours did this so they wasnt interested to investigate the case.

Albanian

pre 15 godina

I see all sort of comments in here and some of them don't make no sense at all.

1) Who told this guy that they were murdered?

2) If they were murdered, why some of you posters blame albanians? Where is your proof.

We'll have to wait for post-mortem examination results before we go in to conclusions.
I did read this story on another website and there it says that no sign of violence was found on their bodies and that their neighbours who happen to be albanians use to help them.

Killing this two old people is in nobodys interests.

Emma

pre 15 godina

Let’s place the Serbian and Albanian politics aside for a moment. Two people found dead at the same time in the middle of an ethnically hostile environment- what should one think?

Foul-Play comes to mind…

Gabe

pre 15 godina

Interesting how the police is not quotes as saying that they were murdered but specifically noted to say there was no sign of fighting. I read another news source and it mentioned that the bodies had no injuries.

I think people here jump to conclusions a bit too quickly, especially the few with hate in their hearts.

B

pre 15 godina

This is like little kids fighting over a lollipop. It's ridiculous how 'each side' seeks the monopoly over the 'truth' of what happened with the poor Kosovo Serb couple - while none of them is ANY position to know the circumstances surrounding their deaths.

There's so much prejudice, people.

We've got to learn how to behave, as well as not to step into this tragedy with the "I told you, so" emotionalism.

First, the municipal president quoted in the article is probably from the parallel structures. Since when is the threshold of proving someone guilty (i.e. a community) been lowered to accepting the opinion of a person claiming something? There's got to be a whole judicial process to determine this.

Now, yes, do Kosovo courts work well? Sure, they don't. Is there suspicion on the part of the Kosovo Serbs and Serbs in general that Kosovo courts are biased? Sure there is. I do not blame them. But, there's also the other side to it, that in such incidents where interethnic violence is suspected, an international prosecutor and judge are usually involved. That does help.

Second, there's also the issue of how come both people were found dead. That is indeed suspicious. But, can we still conclude safely that this is murder? We cannot. We need evidence. Does the B92 article give us any concrete evidence that can be presented in a court of law? No, it contains no such evidence.

All this suspicion and outright prejudice just adds to the noise. It doesnt help straighten the facts out. If you truly care for the poor couple, you wouldn't want to inform your views on their death cause based on prejudice. You want facts.

Let's get them first.

nikshala

pre 15 godina

Before people jump to conclusions, they should wait for the police investigation and autopsy. A case like this is bound to be investigated by international police as well, so if they were murdered, it will come out, so hold your horses.

While it would be very very unlikely for a couple lets say in 40s to day of natural causes around the same time, its not that unlikely for a couple on their 70s. As the report says, their neighbours had not seen them for a few days and they reported it to police. It also says that they were the only serbs there, so we can assume that their neighbours were albanians. If they neighbours wanted to kill them, i doubt they wuold care enough to phone the police.

If they were murdered, i would condem it as a horrible crime, regardless if the perpetrators were albanian.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Like most stores in Kosovo, we won't ever get the full picture, just like we still have not gotten all the information regarding the blast in Pristina last week and the 3 German BND members who were conveniently in the area. I'm witholding judgement here on who did what, if any, with this couple, but it's still kind of fishy that both die at the same time. It would be nice if B92 reports anything after the autopsies were given. If it was simply natural death, it needs to be reported. Personally, I would have taken them to BG as I would trust the doctors there with a better assessment, but whatever.

blue and gold

pre 15 godina

Is Mr. Jevtić conducting the investigation himself? How is he able to tell that they were murdered before the police, international investigator and autopsy? On a serious note though, Mr. Jevtic does not deserve his position as a president of a municipality if he is willing to make unprofessional statements like this. Shame on him…

lids

pre 15 godina

They lived their life surrounded by vicious people and the only way to get the last two standing was to kill them.
May they rest in peace..

Emma

pre 15 godina

If one person was found dead, I could agree on the “natural causes” however when both husband and wife are found dead at the same time- there is definitely a foul-play…

What a shameful and reckless act to take a life of an innocent old woman and a man…

Alban

pre 15 godina

from http://glassrbije.org/E/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5426&Itemid=26

"..municipal president ***Boban Jevtic*** for the Kosmet Radio. He stated that he had found it from a witness, who wished to remain anonymous, but who had witnessed the crime."
Now police should pay Boban a visit and find his 'source.' No confidentiality if it's about a crime. Either Boban lied to make ethnic relations worst or his is hiding a witness to a crime. They were the only Serbs in that town yet Boban has a witness, even though the police told him about the discovery. Milosevic at least had better tricks. Hmmm, yet B92 reports it as if it's true.

Alban

pre 15 godina

B92, enough with propaganda, it only makes matters worse!!!! Natural death as reported

Albanians even helped since they were old and had no one. No signs in their bodies and they didn't die in the same day.

vuk

pre 15 godina

Children and schools being stoned, people not allowed to return to there homes??? OAPS been killed in their houses, crime, drug and human trafficing rife...

If these is what "FAKE" indipendance and so called liberation brings then just shows how floored the albanian movement in kosovo is...

KJS

P.S.

Alban police report says murderd... saying that you will probably think Milosevic got out of his grave and killed them, and its not false propaganda like you and west preach about peaceful kosovo its stating facts ALBANIANS can not live with others!!!

welcome to thr new iraq!!!

L*O*G*I*C

pre 15 godina

Death it's a part of the life cycle. I hope people don't jump the gun and realize that the coupe was found dead and not killed.

B92,
It's the KP, Kosovo Police, not KPS Kosovo Police Service.

vuk

pre 15 godina

Children and schools being stoned, people not allowed to return to there homes??? OAPS been killed in their houses, crime, drug and human trafficing rife...

If these is what "FAKE" indipendance and so called liberation brings then just shows how floored the albanian movement in kosovo is...

KJS

P.S.

Alban police report says murderd... saying that you will probably think Milosevic got out of his grave and killed them, and its not false propaganda like you and west preach about peaceful kosovo its stating facts ALBANIANS can not live with others!!!

welcome to thr new iraq!!!

lids

pre 15 godina

They lived their life surrounded by vicious people and the only way to get the last two standing was to kill them.
May they rest in peace..

Emma

pre 15 godina

If one person was found dead, I could agree on the “natural causes” however when both husband and wife are found dead at the same time- there is definitely a foul-play…

What a shameful and reckless act to take a life of an innocent old woman and a man…

Mike

pre 15 godina

Like most stores in Kosovo, we won't ever get the full picture, just like we still have not gotten all the information regarding the blast in Pristina last week and the 3 German BND members who were conveniently in the area. I'm witholding judgement here on who did what, if any, with this couple, but it's still kind of fishy that both die at the same time. It would be nice if B92 reports anything after the autopsies were given. If it was simply natural death, it needs to be reported. Personally, I would have taken them to BG as I would trust the doctors there with a better assessment, but whatever.

nikshala

pre 15 godina

Before people jump to conclusions, they should wait for the police investigation and autopsy. A case like this is bound to be investigated by international police as well, so if they were murdered, it will come out, so hold your horses.

While it would be very very unlikely for a couple lets say in 40s to day of natural causes around the same time, its not that unlikely for a couple on their 70s. As the report says, their neighbours had not seen them for a few days and they reported it to police. It also says that they were the only serbs there, so we can assume that their neighbours were albanians. If they neighbours wanted to kill them, i doubt they wuold care enough to phone the police.

If they were murdered, i would condem it as a horrible crime, regardless if the perpetrators were albanian.

B

pre 15 godina

This is like little kids fighting over a lollipop. It's ridiculous how 'each side' seeks the monopoly over the 'truth' of what happened with the poor Kosovo Serb couple - while none of them is ANY position to know the circumstances surrounding their deaths.

There's so much prejudice, people.

We've got to learn how to behave, as well as not to step into this tragedy with the "I told you, so" emotionalism.

First, the municipal president quoted in the article is probably from the parallel structures. Since when is the threshold of proving someone guilty (i.e. a community) been lowered to accepting the opinion of a person claiming something? There's got to be a whole judicial process to determine this.

Now, yes, do Kosovo courts work well? Sure, they don't. Is there suspicion on the part of the Kosovo Serbs and Serbs in general that Kosovo courts are biased? Sure there is. I do not blame them. But, there's also the other side to it, that in such incidents where interethnic violence is suspected, an international prosecutor and judge are usually involved. That does help.

Second, there's also the issue of how come both people were found dead. That is indeed suspicious. But, can we still conclude safely that this is murder? We cannot. We need evidence. Does the B92 article give us any concrete evidence that can be presented in a court of law? No, it contains no such evidence.

All this suspicion and outright prejudice just adds to the noise. It doesnt help straighten the facts out. If you truly care for the poor couple, you wouldn't want to inform your views on their death cause based on prejudice. You want facts.

Let's get them first.

Hmm

pre 15 godina

It's bad enough they died though what logic runs in the minds of some people is beyond me! The Albanians should practice what they preach, back in march 2004 when two Albanian kids drowned in nth kosova, Albanians went on a rampage and pillaged everything serb in kosovo yet serbs had nothing to do with that tragedy!Now u come here and provoke and mock in the name of hatred and racism, you are very well aware of what happen and deep down you justify every such incident! Shame on b92 for allowing such hateful and evil posts! It's one thing to be murdered, though to insult the dead is sickening..

Peggy

pre 15 godina

@27Albanian, I never said it was the immediate neighbours who looked after them. There was plenty of others who could and I'm sure wanted to.

Also, I don't watch CSI but I suspect you meant XFiles which I didn't watch when it was on.

You can try to defend this any way you can but it was only a matter of days since they were last seen alone, so yes that means they died at the same time. Are you trying to say that one died of natural causes and then within two days the other one died of natural causes as well.

Were they suffering from the same disease? There are ways to kill people without leaving marks on the body or you just don't want to admit that.

Again, how can the Albanians here be so cruel and dismiss this out of hand? Just like with every violent act that happens against the Serbs, the Albanians dismiss it as propaganda and lies.
Start to learn some respect, at least for the dead. This respect might even stop you from vandalizing Serbian cemeteries.

Russell Gordon

pre 15 godina

"..murdered in their home..no signs of violence had been found on the bodies."
A bit contradictory, no? Perhaps something lost in translation? Or perhaps they consented to the murders, and thus it was done tenderly, without leaving any unpleasant bruises, wounds, etc.
Hmm...

hmm

pre 15 godina

Hey Peggy i honestly believe the relevant people don't know the meaning of the word respect, they are simply consumed with hatred thoughts. I see the same thing from Albanian posters over and over again, when a Serb or Macedonian is murdered there is always an excuse.. a good example was in a Albanian village Aricanovo in northern macedonia, the entire village is Albanian, there was one shop owned by a Macedonia yet this 80 year old shop owner shot to death.. the Albanian posters on the Macedonian web site were upset that it was assumed that Albanians killed him, they cried foul, discrimination and if we keep this up federation is the only answer,..

And if you ever attempt to debate them on a topic, they will simply justify it on the fact they claim they are Ilyrians and we took there land hence we do not belong there..

Alban

pre 15 godina

B92, enough with propaganda, it only makes matters worse!!!! Natural death as reported

Albanians even helped since they were old and had no one. No signs in their bodies and they didn't die in the same day.

Alban

pre 15 godina

from http://glassrbije.org/E/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5426&Itemid=26

"..municipal president ***Boban Jevtic*** for the Kosmet Radio. He stated that he had found it from a witness, who wished to remain anonymous, but who had witnessed the crime."
Now police should pay Boban a visit and find his 'source.' No confidentiality if it's about a crime. Either Boban lied to make ethnic relations worst or his is hiding a witness to a crime. They were the only Serbs in that town yet Boban has a witness, even though the police told him about the discovery. Milosevic at least had better tricks. Hmmm, yet B92 reports it as if it's true.

Emma

pre 15 godina

Benjamin… The fact is:

Husband and Wife are found dead in their home- I strongly doubt this was due to a natural cause or negligence from a family members not visiting often…
My condolence to their family

Emma

pre 15 godina

Let’s place the Serbian and Albanian politics aside for a moment. Two people found dead at the same time in the middle of an ethnically hostile environment- what should one think?

Foul-Play comes to mind…

L*O*G*I*C

pre 15 godina

Death it's a part of the life cycle. I hope people don't jump the gun and realize that the coupe was found dead and not killed.

B92,
It's the KP, Kosovo Police, not KPS Kosovo Police Service.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Here we go again. Albanians coming out in force to deny again.
Albanian, you want proof that it was Albanians who killed the couple. Since they were the only Serbs in the area who else could've done this? Aliens perhaps?

You also were saying that it is in nobody interest to kill two elderly people. I suppose for some they were not dying quick enough and there was a waiting list of people who were anxious to grab their house. This would certainly be in someone's interest now, wouldn't it?

As far as waiting for an autopsy to get the truth, I wouldn't hold my breath. How impartial is this going to be?

Last but not least for all of you who say that this was death by natural causes because they were in their 70s I say, rubbish. Quite a coincidence that they both should die at the same time.

All I can say is that this is so evil and blood thirsty that I can't imagine anyone who is decent and has a heart defending this crime or brushing it under the carpet.
Disgusting and shameful is the society who allows this to happen.

Benjamin

pre 15 godina

Dear comment writers and comment readers,

Following are couple of reasons to make some issues clear -

First –
I am from that region I live in Kamenica the municipality, aint no Mr. Jevticć works or ever worked in Municipal Authorities - if he came as a result of Serbia’s 11 May elections - (than he is a wanna be President but in no way President – Mr. Begzad Sinani -PDK is official town mayor).
Second –
Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background (i personally consider that we don’t differ nor 10-20% with serbs living there, so many things in common). Consequently i presume that this picture of normal living conditions for every one in the region is obstructing Serbia's aspiration to south-eastern Kosovo as they got them in north.
Third -
I will invite and encourage youngsters that left their older people in a situation that these two poor elders were left, to at least intensify "control"-visits, cause this may have been arranged from UDBA to potentially destabilise the atmosphere and political ambience (this is not based to any analyze - but could well be true).

No single individual in Kriljevo would have taken such an inferior criminal act, particularly not now when things pertaining to security issues are put on a normal footing.

blue and gold

pre 15 godina

Is Mr. Jevtić conducting the investigation himself? How is he able to tell that they were murdered before the police, international investigator and autopsy? On a serious note though, Mr. Jevtic does not deserve his position as a president of a municipality if he is willing to make unprofessional statements like this. Shame on him…

Milan

pre 15 godina

May you souls rest in peace my fellow Serbs.


ANother example of Albanian "bravery" and "understandable revenge."
It must be that highland spirit.

Steve

pre 15 godina

I hope people are taking note of most Albanian peoples inability to see ANY wrong doing on their part or the part of their compatriots.

The world is watching you!

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background
(Benjamin, 5 December 2008 20:54)
i think the whole world is envious of kosovo and the balkans in general because of this. i mean, imagine if it were like in scandinavia. who would want that?

Albanian

pre 15 godina

I see all sort of comments in here and some of them don't make no sense at all.

1) Who told this guy that they were murdered?

2) If they were murdered, why some of you posters blame albanians? Where is your proof.

We'll have to wait for post-mortem examination results before we go in to conclusions.
I did read this story on another website and there it says that no sign of violence was found on their bodies and that their neighbours who happen to be albanians use to help them.

Killing this two old people is in nobodys interests.

Gabe

pre 15 godina

Interesting how the police is not quotes as saying that they were murdered but specifically noted to say there was no sign of fighting. I read another news source and it mentioned that the bodies had no injuries.

I think people here jump to conclusions a bit too quickly, especially the few with hate in their hearts.

K-AL

pre 15 godina

Come one guys...

Does anyone who took these bodies and where they send them for authophsy?
A month ago KP serbian officers found a serbian dead woman's body in north Mitrovica and serbians didnt care for this, but it was albanians who took the body and sent to OPMF Prishtina for authophsy.
Do you know why KP serbian officers didnt care for this case, because it happened in north Mitrovica and they knew their serbian neighbours did this so they wasnt interested to investigate the case.

Beni, UK

pre 15 godina

People, it is true they were found dead at the same time but that does not mean they died at the same time. Why is so hard to understand this?

When neighbours were concerned for not seeing them for some time they called the police. The police came at once and they found two bodies, of Bogdan 77 & Stanica Stankovic 74.
Now, according to another newspaper, quoting an international pathologist, by the look of the bodies, it seems that they did not die at the same time. Maybe one of the bodies was decomposed more than the other, hence him saying they did not die at the same time.
Rather than jumping to conclusions, wait and see. For those who don't trust Albaian police, wait, because even Albanian police can tell if there was bullets in their bodies or not or any other weapon. After all, these bodies will be claimed by members of the family and we will find the truth.
Until then, let show some respect for those unfortunate elderly.
May they R.I.P

Petar

pre 15 godina

No one really knows how these people died. Lets at least wait for the autopsy report beafore starting to attack one another. The truth cannot be hidden.

arti

pre 15 godina

I agree with some posters here,two people dying at the same time is a litle strange,not that it doesn't happen,but in the other hand the elder were living there alone for quite a bit among Albanians ( assuming that Albanians did ,according to some Serbian posters here )and they were also helping them,I mean why?how much of the harm where they to Albanians?why would they kill them? before jumping to conclusions let the police do the job and if it was a crime the people who did that would get what they deserve,I fel bad for the elders and shame on the family that abandoned them alone.

Albanian

pre 15 godina

@ Peggy.
It seems to me that you watch to much CSI.

Albanian, you want proof that it was Albanians who killed the couple. Since they were the only Serbs in the area who else could've done this? Aliens perhaps?
Tell me how long did couple live in that aerea?
If it's like your saying pehaps they would've being murdered along time ago.
They used to be looked after by the Albanian people, so for what reason would the Albanians kill them?
For the house? Give me a break. I don't know about the others but i do find your comments a bit ofensive towards Albanians. And if somebody did kill those innocent people, no matter their ethnic background, i hope they would get punishment they deserve.

Benjamin

pre 15 godina

Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background
(Benjamin, 5 December 2008 20:54)
i think the whole world is envious of kosovo and the balkans in general because of this. i mean, imagine if it were like in scandinavia. who would want that?
(malcolm x, 6 December 2008 12:26)

Mr. Malcolm X,
Our region - read or understand as KAMENICA Region, do not read Kosovo. This is what wanted to say... autopsy has shown that the Mr. Stankovic has for a long time suffered from cancer and that he died 5 or six days before Ms. Stankovic, unfotunately she as i presumed was 80% paralyzed and as no Albanian neighbor could have hear her asking for help she couldnt walk outside her home and imagine on what circumstance she has passed away, frankly very sad.. In my first posture i've invited all the youngster that have left thier parents, or even their grandparents in the situation like the one we're talking..i have heard responsible people for social welfare claiming there are at least 200 other similar case in Kamenica region... in no way this is a sadden accident very sad indeed... but now refereeing to what EMMA said upon my posture... i still think this is completely due to the negligence of their relatives (sons, daughters, normally including Municipal Responsible structure)

Alban

pre 15 godina

B92, enough with propaganda, it only makes matters worse!!!! Natural death as reported

Albanians even helped since they were old and had no one. No signs in their bodies and they didn't die in the same day.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 15 godina

Death it's a part of the life cycle. I hope people don't jump the gun and realize that the coupe was found dead and not killed.

B92,
It's the KP, Kosovo Police, not KPS Kosovo Police Service.

Alban

pre 15 godina

from http://glassrbije.org/E/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5426&Itemid=26

"..municipal president ***Boban Jevtic*** for the Kosmet Radio. He stated that he had found it from a witness, who wished to remain anonymous, but who had witnessed the crime."
Now police should pay Boban a visit and find his 'source.' No confidentiality if it's about a crime. Either Boban lied to make ethnic relations worst or his is hiding a witness to a crime. They were the only Serbs in that town yet Boban has a witness, even though the police told him about the discovery. Milosevic at least had better tricks. Hmmm, yet B92 reports it as if it's true.

blue and gold

pre 15 godina

Is Mr. Jevtić conducting the investigation himself? How is he able to tell that they were murdered before the police, international investigator and autopsy? On a serious note though, Mr. Jevtic does not deserve his position as a president of a municipality if he is willing to make unprofessional statements like this. Shame on him…

Albanian

pre 15 godina

@ Peggy.
It seems to me that you watch to much CSI.

Albanian, you want proof that it was Albanians who killed the couple. Since they were the only Serbs in the area who else could've done this? Aliens perhaps?
Tell me how long did couple live in that aerea?
If it's like your saying pehaps they would've being murdered along time ago.
They used to be looked after by the Albanian people, so for what reason would the Albanians kill them?
For the house? Give me a break. I don't know about the others but i do find your comments a bit ofensive towards Albanians. And if somebody did kill those innocent people, no matter their ethnic background, i hope they would get punishment they deserve.

K-AL

pre 15 godina

Come one guys...

Does anyone who took these bodies and where they send them for authophsy?
A month ago KP serbian officers found a serbian dead woman's body in north Mitrovica and serbians didnt care for this, but it was albanians who took the body and sent to OPMF Prishtina for authophsy.
Do you know why KP serbian officers didnt care for this case, because it happened in north Mitrovica and they knew their serbian neighbours did this so they wasnt interested to investigate the case.

Benjamin

pre 15 godina

Dear comment writers and comment readers,

Following are couple of reasons to make some issues clear -

First –
I am from that region I live in Kamenica the municipality, aint no Mr. Jevticć works or ever worked in Municipal Authorities - if he came as a result of Serbia’s 11 May elections - (than he is a wanna be President but in no way President – Mr. Begzad Sinani -PDK is official town mayor).
Second –
Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background (i personally consider that we don’t differ nor 10-20% with serbs living there, so many things in common). Consequently i presume that this picture of normal living conditions for every one in the region is obstructing Serbia's aspiration to south-eastern Kosovo as they got them in north.
Third -
I will invite and encourage youngsters that left their older people in a situation that these two poor elders were left, to at least intensify "control"-visits, cause this may have been arranged from UDBA to potentially destabilise the atmosphere and political ambience (this is not based to any analyze - but could well be true).

No single individual in Kriljevo would have taken such an inferior criminal act, particularly not now when things pertaining to security issues are put on a normal footing.

vuk

pre 15 godina

Children and schools being stoned, people not allowed to return to there homes??? OAPS been killed in their houses, crime, drug and human trafficing rife...

If these is what "FAKE" indipendance and so called liberation brings then just shows how floored the albanian movement in kosovo is...

KJS

P.S.

Alban police report says murderd... saying that you will probably think Milosevic got out of his grave and killed them, and its not false propaganda like you and west preach about peaceful kosovo its stating facts ALBANIANS can not live with others!!!

welcome to thr new iraq!!!

Albanian

pre 15 godina

I see all sort of comments in here and some of them don't make no sense at all.

1) Who told this guy that they were murdered?

2) If they were murdered, why some of you posters blame albanians? Where is your proof.

We'll have to wait for post-mortem examination results before we go in to conclusions.
I did read this story on another website and there it says that no sign of violence was found on their bodies and that their neighbours who happen to be albanians use to help them.

Killing this two old people is in nobodys interests.

lids

pre 15 godina

They lived their life surrounded by vicious people and the only way to get the last two standing was to kill them.
May they rest in peace..

arti

pre 15 godina

I agree with some posters here,two people dying at the same time is a litle strange,not that it doesn't happen,but in the other hand the elder were living there alone for quite a bit among Albanians ( assuming that Albanians did ,according to some Serbian posters here )and they were also helping them,I mean why?how much of the harm where they to Albanians?why would they kill them? before jumping to conclusions let the police do the job and if it was a crime the people who did that would get what they deserve,I fel bad for the elders and shame on the family that abandoned them alone.

Beni, UK

pre 15 godina

People, it is true they were found dead at the same time but that does not mean they died at the same time. Why is so hard to understand this?

When neighbours were concerned for not seeing them for some time they called the police. The police came at once and they found two bodies, of Bogdan 77 & Stanica Stankovic 74.
Now, according to another newspaper, quoting an international pathologist, by the look of the bodies, it seems that they did not die at the same time. Maybe one of the bodies was decomposed more than the other, hence him saying they did not die at the same time.
Rather than jumping to conclusions, wait and see. For those who don't trust Albaian police, wait, because even Albanian police can tell if there was bullets in their bodies or not or any other weapon. After all, these bodies will be claimed by members of the family and we will find the truth.
Until then, let show some respect for those unfortunate elderly.
May they R.I.P

Emma

pre 15 godina

If one person was found dead, I could agree on the “natural causes” however when both husband and wife are found dead at the same time- there is definitely a foul-play…

What a shameful and reckless act to take a life of an innocent old woman and a man…

Emma

pre 15 godina

Let’s place the Serbian and Albanian politics aside for a moment. Two people found dead at the same time in the middle of an ethnically hostile environment- what should one think?

Foul-Play comes to mind…

Emma

pre 15 godina

Benjamin… The fact is:

Husband and Wife are found dead in their home- I strongly doubt this was due to a natural cause or negligence from a family members not visiting often…
My condolence to their family

Milan

pre 15 godina

May you souls rest in peace my fellow Serbs.


ANother example of Albanian "bravery" and "understandable revenge."
It must be that highland spirit.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Like most stores in Kosovo, we won't ever get the full picture, just like we still have not gotten all the information regarding the blast in Pristina last week and the 3 German BND members who were conveniently in the area. I'm witholding judgement here on who did what, if any, with this couple, but it's still kind of fishy that both die at the same time. It would be nice if B92 reports anything after the autopsies were given. If it was simply natural death, it needs to be reported. Personally, I would have taken them to BG as I would trust the doctors there with a better assessment, but whatever.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Here we go again. Albanians coming out in force to deny again.
Albanian, you want proof that it was Albanians who killed the couple. Since they were the only Serbs in the area who else could've done this? Aliens perhaps?

You also were saying that it is in nobody interest to kill two elderly people. I suppose for some they were not dying quick enough and there was a waiting list of people who were anxious to grab their house. This would certainly be in someone's interest now, wouldn't it?

As far as waiting for an autopsy to get the truth, I wouldn't hold my breath. How impartial is this going to be?

Last but not least for all of you who say that this was death by natural causes because they were in their 70s I say, rubbish. Quite a coincidence that they both should die at the same time.

All I can say is that this is so evil and blood thirsty that I can't imagine anyone who is decent and has a heart defending this crime or brushing it under the carpet.
Disgusting and shameful is the society who allows this to happen.

nikshala

pre 15 godina

Before people jump to conclusions, they should wait for the police investigation and autopsy. A case like this is bound to be investigated by international police as well, so if they were murdered, it will come out, so hold your horses.

While it would be very very unlikely for a couple lets say in 40s to day of natural causes around the same time, its not that unlikely for a couple on their 70s. As the report says, their neighbours had not seen them for a few days and they reported it to police. It also says that they were the only serbs there, so we can assume that their neighbours were albanians. If they neighbours wanted to kill them, i doubt they wuold care enough to phone the police.

If they were murdered, i would condem it as a horrible crime, regardless if the perpetrators were albanian.

Gabe

pre 15 godina

Interesting how the police is not quotes as saying that they were murdered but specifically noted to say there was no sign of fighting. I read another news source and it mentioned that the bodies had no injuries.

I think people here jump to conclusions a bit too quickly, especially the few with hate in their hearts.

Hmm

pre 15 godina

It's bad enough they died though what logic runs in the minds of some people is beyond me! The Albanians should practice what they preach, back in march 2004 when two Albanian kids drowned in nth kosova, Albanians went on a rampage and pillaged everything serb in kosovo yet serbs had nothing to do with that tragedy!Now u come here and provoke and mock in the name of hatred and racism, you are very well aware of what happen and deep down you justify every such incident! Shame on b92 for allowing such hateful and evil posts! It's one thing to be murdered, though to insult the dead is sickening..

B

pre 15 godina

This is like little kids fighting over a lollipop. It's ridiculous how 'each side' seeks the monopoly over the 'truth' of what happened with the poor Kosovo Serb couple - while none of them is ANY position to know the circumstances surrounding their deaths.

There's so much prejudice, people.

We've got to learn how to behave, as well as not to step into this tragedy with the "I told you, so" emotionalism.

First, the municipal president quoted in the article is probably from the parallel structures. Since when is the threshold of proving someone guilty (i.e. a community) been lowered to accepting the opinion of a person claiming something? There's got to be a whole judicial process to determine this.

Now, yes, do Kosovo courts work well? Sure, they don't. Is there suspicion on the part of the Kosovo Serbs and Serbs in general that Kosovo courts are biased? Sure there is. I do not blame them. But, there's also the other side to it, that in such incidents where interethnic violence is suspected, an international prosecutor and judge are usually involved. That does help.

Second, there's also the issue of how come both people were found dead. That is indeed suspicious. But, can we still conclude safely that this is murder? We cannot. We need evidence. Does the B92 article give us any concrete evidence that can be presented in a court of law? No, it contains no such evidence.

All this suspicion and outright prejudice just adds to the noise. It doesnt help straighten the facts out. If you truly care for the poor couple, you wouldn't want to inform your views on their death cause based on prejudice. You want facts.

Let's get them first.

Steve

pre 15 godina

I hope people are taking note of most Albanian peoples inability to see ANY wrong doing on their part or the part of their compatriots.

The world is watching you!

Peggy

pre 15 godina

@27Albanian, I never said it was the immediate neighbours who looked after them. There was plenty of others who could and I'm sure wanted to.

Also, I don't watch CSI but I suspect you meant XFiles which I didn't watch when it was on.

You can try to defend this any way you can but it was only a matter of days since they were last seen alone, so yes that means they died at the same time. Are you trying to say that one died of natural causes and then within two days the other one died of natural causes as well.

Were they suffering from the same disease? There are ways to kill people without leaving marks on the body or you just don't want to admit that.

Again, how can the Albanians here be so cruel and dismiss this out of hand? Just like with every violent act that happens against the Serbs, the Albanians dismiss it as propaganda and lies.
Start to learn some respect, at least for the dead. This respect might even stop you from vandalizing Serbian cemeteries.

hmm

pre 15 godina

Hey Peggy i honestly believe the relevant people don't know the meaning of the word respect, they are simply consumed with hatred thoughts. I see the same thing from Albanian posters over and over again, when a Serb or Macedonian is murdered there is always an excuse.. a good example was in a Albanian village Aricanovo in northern macedonia, the entire village is Albanian, there was one shop owned by a Macedonia yet this 80 year old shop owner shot to death.. the Albanian posters on the Macedonian web site were upset that it was assumed that Albanians killed him, they cried foul, discrimination and if we keep this up federation is the only answer,..

And if you ever attempt to debate them on a topic, they will simply justify it on the fact they claim they are Ilyrians and we took there land hence we do not belong there..

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background
(Benjamin, 5 December 2008 20:54)
i think the whole world is envious of kosovo and the balkans in general because of this. i mean, imagine if it were like in scandinavia. who would want that?

Russell Gordon

pre 15 godina

"..murdered in their home..no signs of violence had been found on the bodies."
A bit contradictory, no? Perhaps something lost in translation? Or perhaps they consented to the murders, and thus it was done tenderly, without leaving any unpleasant bruises, wounds, etc.
Hmm...

Petar

pre 15 godina

No one really knows how these people died. Lets at least wait for the autopsy report beafore starting to attack one another. The truth cannot be hidden.

Benjamin

pre 15 godina

Our region is and will remain the best example of coexistence between people of different background
(Benjamin, 5 December 2008 20:54)
i think the whole world is envious of kosovo and the balkans in general because of this. i mean, imagine if it were like in scandinavia. who would want that?
(malcolm x, 6 December 2008 12:26)

Mr. Malcolm X,
Our region - read or understand as KAMENICA Region, do not read Kosovo. This is what wanted to say... autopsy has shown that the Mr. Stankovic has for a long time suffered from cancer and that he died 5 or six days before Ms. Stankovic, unfotunately she as i presumed was 80% paralyzed and as no Albanian neighbor could have hear her asking for help she couldnt walk outside her home and imagine on what circumstance she has passed away, frankly very sad.. In my first posture i've invited all the youngster that have left thier parents, or even their grandparents in the situation like the one we're talking..i have heard responsible people for social welfare claiming there are at least 200 other similar case in Kamenica region... in no way this is a sadden accident very sad indeed... but now refereeing to what EMMA said upon my posture... i still think this is completely due to the negligence of their relatives (sons, daughters, normally including Municipal Responsible structure)