Govt. accepts UN SC decision

After reading the report, I do not see how anyone can claim a "victory". The so-called much talked about 6 point plan is very ambiguous and open to interpretations. It basically says there will be dialogue and discussions.
The only thing really concrete was that the north would be under the laws of UNMIK for up to 60 days following the reopening of the court system, which should be almost up.

One interesting thing in the report was freedom of movement. According to the report 96% of minorities move freely outside of their community. And that freedom of movement is only a problem for the minority Albanian population in the North.
It also blames the decrease in returns on the closure by the Serbia govt of the Kosovo Property Agency making it impossible to verify property ownership.
----Remember this report received the blessing of the Serbian govt. Not just an Ok, but a victorious agreement with the report.

@ Kate,

since EULEX is status neutral, it can never be part of 1244(is not status neutral). You wish it was. EULEX can never be part of 1244 as well as an Independent Kosova. Therefore, Kosova wins, since we dont have any reason to negotiate with serbia, moreover we have much to win if we dont negotiate than negotiate. do you feel serbia won? nope.

Was there any other scenario? NO
“EULEX will respect UN Security Council Resolution 1244 and Serbia’s territorial integrity and sovereignty in full. The EULEX mission does not involve the implementation of the Martti Ahtisaari plan, it constitutes a comprehensive proposal for resolving Kosovo’s status,“ explained Bogdanović.
Only a fool would believe this. EULEX is neutral towards both, Prishtina and Belgrade, “integrity and sovereignty” which Serbia does not have over Kosovo how can it be protected.

“EULEX will also operate under UN auspices in Kosovo, embodying its neutral status and implementing the six-point plan agreed on between Serbia and the UN,“ he said
There are no six points.

I will stop this and wait until they go in Parliament and explain this to Serbian parliament

1244 emphasizes that Kosovo is part of Yugoslavia. It also emphasizes that there will be status talks. Status talks are over, Kosovo already declared independence and the EU, an organization overwhelmingly recognizing Kosovo's independence, is authorized to deploy their people there.

What does it tell us? Maybe that you turn this whole issue as you like it to be. However, the integration to the EU which is the aim of some countries in that region claims that all states have to settle their issues concerning borders, minorities, etc. So from that perspective, nobody will join it there, as long as it is like this now.

The Serbian government is fooling it self and the citizens. The EU is only looking away to get its foot in the door and inside ,the door will be coming of its hinges. I guess people never learn only believe in some fictitious imaginary pie in the sky. How many more slices would you like it will cost you dearly.

Again, I am not sure what everyone is talking about here. Clearly the statement adopted by UN does not mention 6 or 4 points of either side. It merely allows EULEX in Kosovo.

So the question everyone should ask is how did EULEX come about? Who created it and with what purpose it was created?

In the light of the answers for the above questions I don’t get the euphoria of Serb politicians about their perceived victory (maybe this one is another one along many “victories” Serbs did in the past. Jeremic speech was an eerie remainder of Milosevic’s era and his famous victory against NATO loaded with nonsense, a more appropriate word would be censored, not suitable for a diplomat at the post he finds himself).

The fact that both sides will interpret this as they please and wish deserves no comment as is obvious from the spin they attribute to this event. You just need to listen to media in Serbia and Kosovo and you get to wonder if they are speaking about the same event.

For those that want to read and form their own opinion then please check UN site and find the report that secretary general submitted

[link]/ ([link])

In my opinion Serb leaders have more to worry about than rejoice if they really, really care about Kosovo (which I don’t think they care at all but instead use Kosovo to manipulate Serb people and consolidate their political grip in Serbia).

In more than one reference the report equalizes Republic of Kosovo with that of Republic of Serbia and Secretary General goes at great length to make the point that UN is neutral with regards to Kosovo status (so Kosovo is not independent but it is not part of Serbia either).

Anyway read the report and conclude for yourself if anything can be done without the consent of the Authorities of the Republic of Kosovo as Secretary General himself wrote in the report and has instructed its Special Representative in Kosovo to do so.

Sunny: "eulex is status neutral therefore its not concerned with the question of souvreigntie for either kosovo or serbia"

Wrong actually. The EULEX mission is status neutral but it falls under the UN Res 1244 umbrella which confirms Serbia's sovereignty over Kosovo.

Serbs have been tricked like no other time before. They accepted EULEX, which comes out of Ahtisaari plan. Remember a while ago the saying of Serbs " If we accept EULEX it means we accept Kosova's Independence"... Therefore quietly Serbia accepted Kosova's Independence.
Serbs accepted a plan that does not accept Kosova as a part of Serbia.

UNMIK is "status neutral". I wonder how "status neutral" will be EULEX which is composed of countries that have recognized (non-status neutral) Republic of Kosovo.

Kate and other,

Do you really think that the statements coming from the Serbian officials are credible?

There is an Italian say "Tra dire e fare ce' mezzo un mare" which means "There is a sea between say and doing something"
The Kosova's government will full co-operate with EULEX but on the other side will be very very critical if its mission doesn't work confirm the Kosova's Constitution. No decision will be made without approval of Kosova's authorities. To the enthusiastic Serbs laughs well whom laughs the last!

Mike and ZK - You are both so right. Using women as breeding machines and children as land grab tools is hardly in line with modern living, let alone EU social standards.

Besides which, as I understand it health care is very poor in Kosovo. The risk to mothers and babies must be very high.

I am sure there must be plenty of Kosovo Albanians who are embarrassed by such medieval attitudes.

There have been posters on here taunting other nationalities for having one or two kids and not being 'real men'. That sort of thinking is just mind boggling.

Jakup Krasniqi, Kosova's parliament speaker: if The Contact Group breaches its promise, Albanians in the Balkans should and will consider joining Albania http://www.telegrafi.com/?id=2&a=2878

Mike,

as long as serbia cannot enter the the north because EULEX is there, serbia controls nothing, we will take north by building around Albanian homes there and high birth rates.

And no one can dare to partition Kosovo, since that would mean only one thing. Then noone can stop Albanians join in one state.

Amantia: "since EULEX is status neutral, it can never be part of 1244(is not status neutral). You wish it was. EULEX can never be part of 1244 as well as an Independent Kosova."

What are you talking about? Of course it can be, and it is. The reason that Serbia has agreed to the deployment is because EULEX falls under Res. 1244 and therefore the body is under a legal obligation (via the UN Security Council and Charter) to uphold all parts of the resolution, including Serbia's sovereign integrity.

EULEX is status neutral with regards to its administrative duties because anything else would make it impossible to deal with either community.

"Therefore, Kosova wins, since we dont have any reason to negotiate with serbia..."

That's true because the UN will clearly be doing that on your behalf. Ultimately, the best outcome for everyone would be gained through direct consultation between Belgrade and Pristina, but that seems a long way off.

i guess the devils in the details. eulex is status neutral therefore its not concerned with the question of souvreigntie for either kosovo or serbia.im surprised serbia approved it, i guess russia is right inevitably somewhere down the track serbia and kosovo must sit down and fialise this before entry into the euro family

The devil is certianly in the details, and in less than a week the Albanians have gone from rejecting this move on account of it eroding their perceived sovereignty to now claiming victory over Serbia - I guess what you can't win, you'll spin to your side.

But let's look over in finer detail what this agreement does and doesn't do.

First, EULEX is operating under a status neutral condition. While that means EULEX does not recognize Kosovo as an independent country, it can also mean that it doesn't necessarily recognize Kosovo as a fundamental part of Serbia. It makes reference to 1244, but with its own government structure, constitution, and international presence, it's hard to argue that Serbia has authority over all of Kosovo anymore.

Second, it gives Belgrade greater control over the Serb sectors, particularly the north. I'm not sure what the final status of the enclaves in the center and south will be, though I suspect it will come under some form of dual administration from Belgrade and EULEX. But being in isolated pockets scattered throughout, EULEX is certainly going to be there. Now last week, Belgrade was pushing for this division saying it represents what the people there want, while Pristina was rejecting it, saying they wanted full control over the province. Now that the 6-points have been passed and the province is beginning its administrative and functional partition, I can find little reason for Albanians to spin this as a victory, other than Belgrade recognizing what it CAN'T control, and WON'T control anymore. But at this point, Belgrade recognizing they don't control Pristina anymore is the same as Germany recognizing they no longer control Konigsberg or Danzig.

Third, if EULEX really turns Kosovo into an international protectorate - not necessarily part of Serbia but not necessarily an independent country, this might actually encourage other countries to recognize it as such. Remember, there's a lot of countries that are waiting for that "green light" representing an agreement between Belgrade and Pristina before they recognize (Greece, and Spain) being two. In other words, Kosovo may get more international support as an EU Protectorate than as an independent state. And let's be honest: if Belgrade can enter and leave the north with ease, and if Mitrovica can function as the Serb capital of Kosovo, if the churches and monasteries are in the hands of Serbs, and if the enclaves have access to all areas too, that may be good enough for another wave of recognitions.

Kosovo was never really destined to be an independent country by the international community - or at the very least the European Union. Those major powers calling the shots are merely interested in a sustainable solution, and if that solution is "neutral zone", "protectorate", or whatever, I have a feeling Brussels will be ready to make it such. From the looks of it, Kosovo is being officially classified as an international protectorate, with visible and ongoing input from Brussels and Belgrade.

We will take north by building around Albanian homes there and high birth rates.
(Amantia, 28 November 2008 20:17)
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What a sad state we are in when people openly promote the birth of children for the sake of land grabbing while teaching them to hate Serbians and to throw stones at their schools.

And what a sad state we are in when the finger pointers and selective justice supporters reward and applaud these people for such behaviour while the real victims are turned in perpetrator.

There will never be any reconciliation so long as these people continue to have influence within these regions of division. They are not interested in peace but the continuation of division, as that is where they profit - through the sale of arms and justification for occupations, which feeds their military corporations. They thrive in these situations my friends.

We are not talking about democracy here but rather dictatorships that dress themselves as peace loving democrats who are only interested in power and world domination. Deception is the word!

But we should all know this will fail just like every other empire that has had similar desires. They all tend to rot at the core.

As they sow, so shall they reap!

Amantia,

Your strategy of outbreeding everyone else for domination is so medieval.

We have stopped to retreat ! We now counter attack them gaining local successes ! We are on the right way and very soon they wiil stop blackmailing you and start to talk as equals !

Congratulations Serbia !

Roberto,

Please look at "snake" and "pigeon" biography on wiki, for instance - before protecting these criminals from critics.

Besides, everyone who enters the field of politics does "risk" to be publicly bashed by anyone who dares to disagree. Unless we want enver hoxha, saddam or milosevic back from the hell, of course.

Not just Serbia, but the whole EU will be albanian.
(Jon, 29 November 2008 13:16)

Why not USA, Russia, China as well? Be a man, you should not hold your ambitions that much back as Serbia or EU.

Yes, i agree with many of the other posters: there is, as always, a certain amount of ambiguity with this agreement, which pleases many diplomats though not partisans of one POV or another, incl myself.

but as i've said many times, independence and democracy are not instant nor easy -- they are hard fought and hard won, at best, through peaceful means.

we of the pro-independence, pro democracy side (whatever our nationality, ethnicity...) have known that this was a kind of "transitional" independence, in which a certain amount of outside supervision was expected, perhaps required. that is not a bad thing, as long as it is done in cooperation with the govt (of Kosovo/a) and in the interests of ALL of the people, which are not just one or even 2 ethnicities.

all human and civil rights need to be protected, and encouraged, all over the country. no section, whatever anyone claims, is exempt. period.

meanwhile we should not and MUST not be goaded by all of the usual (less than intellectual) comments about fake this, mickey mouse that, snake this, masters that. it is all just so much baloney and cheese, and we really need to try to take the high road past it.

and that is not something I find always ez to do, esp with such comments as "daytonize" the whole thing. it really makes me want to -------.

but as was martin luther king's theme, keep your eyes on the prize. and from my new president: Hope, not Hate.

thank you.

roberto/ frisco

Dear Jon,
Thank you for your telling comments.

I wish all the best to your current and future children. Good bless them.

Srba

its very funny, i see all the time the same people comenting here. and they start a discussion which is already prepared somewhere, i.e. for those who lived in the past in Eastern Europe is like reading the Communist\socialist Party newspaper.
This is for those who will reject my comment: You should be ashamed by using such old methods for propaganda.
pffffffff

Daniel Fried after the UNSC statement:

"Kosovo made it very clear that it does not accept the six-point plan. The Secretary General report says very clearly that the EULEX deployment and the transfer from UNMIK to EULEX will be done in coordination and in consolidation with the Kosovar authorities. Nothing will be done without Kosovo, and everything that will be done, Kosovo will be consulted. Importantly, the six-point plan is explicitly stated as an interim plan, not mandatory or obligatory to be implemented by anyone, and the UN's Presidential Declaration does not even mention the six-point plan" This is a good thing for the sovereignty of Kosovo. This shows that Kosovo was able to insist on respecting its sovereignty. And the world now has accepted the fact that the Kosovo Government should be listened to about issues that have to do with Kosovo. Now I need to say that the Kosovo institutions will function in the north, but time and patience is needed…and in this way, Kosovo will be unified. Anyhow, we the United States will cooperate with EULEX, we will be part of EULEX, knowing that this is a rule of law mission and law should be enforced throughout your country, " concluded Fried.

Kate, I am a proud Albanian and I am planning to have 5-9 childrens (currently I have 4). Not just Serbia, but the whole EU will be albanian.

>>> Using women as breeding machines and children as land grab tools is hardly in line with modern living, let alone EU social standards.

Beats what Serbs did in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosova: killing and expelling non-Serbs

We will take north by building around Albanian homes there and high birth rates.

Kate, I am a proud Albanian and I am planning to have 5-9 childrens (currently I have 4). Not just Serbia, but the whole EU will be albanian.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wonderful, you sound just like the Palistinians and all other Muslim extremists in the Middle East. What has any Albanian done for the world that warrants such proudness, at least Serbia has Nikola Tesla and others.

My country was soooo wrong to get involved in the Balkans, let along side with fascist Nazi collaborators like the ethnic Albanians (Skanderbeg) and the "Bosniaks" (Handzar), I won't even get into the Ustache and Jasnevac.

Well, in conclusion, I have to say the countries, including mine, that backed Kosovo's independence are now in a economic nightmare, it does appear we are reaping what we have sown. I seriously doubt Kosovo's separatist govt will be getting nearly as much money as they had hoped to get. I would much rather have my hard earned taxpayer money go to fixing my country than propping up a unviable waste of time like the ethnic Albanian dominated and stolen province of Kosovo & Metohija. Let's see if your beloved Albania can foot the bill, I seriously doubt it.

Sunny: "eulex is status neutral therefore its not concerned with the question of souvreigntie for either kosovo or serbia"

Wrong actually. The EULEX mission is status neutral but it falls under the UN Res 1244 umbrella which confirms Serbia's sovereignty over Kosovo.

Mike,

as long as serbia cannot enter the the north because EULEX is there, serbia controls nothing, we will take north by building around Albanian homes there and high birth rates.

And no one can dare to partition Kosovo, since that would mean only one thing. Then noone can stop Albanians join in one state.

Was there any other scenario? NO
“EULEX will respect UN Security Council Resolution 1244 and Serbia’s territorial integrity and sovereignty in full. The EULEX mission does not involve the implementation of the Martti Ahtisaari plan, it constitutes a comprehensive proposal for resolving Kosovo’s status,“ explained Bogdanović.
Only a fool would believe this. EULEX is neutral towards both, Prishtina and Belgrade, “integrity and sovereignty” which Serbia does not have over Kosovo how can it be protected.

“EULEX will also operate under UN auspices in Kosovo, embodying its neutral status and implementing the six-point plan agreed on between Serbia and the UN,“ he said
There are no six points.

I will stop this and wait until they go in Parliament and explain this to Serbian parliament

@ Kate,

since EULEX is status neutral, it can never be part of 1244(is not status neutral). You wish it was. EULEX can never be part of 1244 as well as an Independent Kosova. Therefore, Kosova wins, since we dont have any reason to negotiate with serbia, moreover we have much to win if we dont negotiate than negotiate. do you feel serbia won? nope.

The devil is certianly in the details, and in less than a week the Albanians have gone from rejecting this move on account of it eroding their perceived sovereignty to now claiming victory over Serbia - I guess what you can't win, you'll spin to your side.

But let's look over in finer detail what this agreement does and doesn't do.

First, EULEX is operating under a status neutral condition. While that means EULEX does not recognize Kosovo as an independent country, it can also mean that it doesn't necessarily recognize Kosovo as a fundamental part of Serbia. It makes reference to 1244, but with its own government structure, constitution, and international presence, it's hard to argue that Serbia has authority over all of Kosovo anymore.

Second, it gives Belgrade greater control over the Serb sectors, particularly the north. I'm not sure what the final status of the enclaves in the center and south will be, though I suspect it will come under some form of dual administration from Belgrade and EULEX. But being in isolated pockets scattered throughout, EULEX is certainly going to be there. Now last week, Belgrade was pushing for this division saying it represents what the people there want, while Pristina was rejecting it, saying they wanted full control over the province. Now that the 6-points have been passed and the province is beginning its administrative and functional partition, I can find little reason for Albanians to spin this as a victory, other than Belgrade recognizing what it CAN'T control, and WON'T control anymore. But at this point, Belgrade recognizing they don't control Pristina anymore is the same as Germany recognizing they no longer control Konigsberg or Danzig.

Third, if EULEX really turns Kosovo into an international protectorate - not necessarily part of Serbia but not necessarily an independent country, this might actually encourage other countries to recognize it as such. Remember, there's a lot of countries that are waiting for that "green light" representing an agreement between Belgrade and Pristina before they recognize (Greece, and Spain) being two. In other words, Kosovo may get more international support as an EU Protectorate than as an independent state. And let's be honest: if Belgrade can enter and leave the north with ease, and if Mitrovica can function as the Serb capital of Kosovo, if the churches and monasteries are in the hands of Serbs, and if the enclaves have access to all areas too, that may be good enough for another wave of recognitions.

Kosovo was never really destined to be an independent country by the international community - or at the very least the European Union. Those major powers calling the shots are merely interested in a sustainable solution, and if that solution is "neutral zone", "protectorate", or whatever, I have a feeling Brussels will be ready to make it such. From the looks of it, Kosovo is being officially classified as an international protectorate, with visible and ongoing input from Brussels and Belgrade.

We will take north by building around Albanian homes there and high birth rates.
(Amantia, 28 November 2008 20:17)
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What a sad state we are in when people openly promote the birth of children for the sake of land grabbing while teaching them to hate Serbians and to throw stones at their schools.

And what a sad state we are in when the finger pointers and selective justice supporters reward and applaud these people for such behaviour while the real victims are turned in perpetrator.

There will never be any reconciliation so long as these people continue to have influence within these regions of division. They are not interested in peace but the continuation of division, as that is where they profit - through the sale of arms and justification for occupations, which feeds their military corporations. They thrive in these situations my friends.

We are not talking about democracy here but rather dictatorships that dress themselves as peace loving democrats who are only interested in power and world domination. Deception is the word!

But we should all know this will fail just like every other empire that has had similar desires. They all tend to rot at the core.

As they sow, so shall they reap!

Kate, I am a proud Albanian and I am planning to have 5-9 childrens (currently I have 4). Not just Serbia, but the whole EU will be albanian.

We have stopped to retreat ! We now counter attack them gaining local successes ! We are on the right way and very soon they wiil stop blackmailing you and start to talk as equals !

Congratulations Serbia !

Amantia: "since EULEX is status neutral, it can never be part of 1244(is not status neutral). You wish it was. EULEX can never be part of 1244 as well as an Independent Kosova."

What are you talking about? Of course it can be, and it is. The reason that Serbia has agreed to the deployment is because EULEX falls under Res. 1244 and therefore the body is under a legal obligation (via the UN Security Council and Charter) to uphold all parts of the resolution, including Serbia's sovereign integrity.

EULEX is status neutral with regards to its administrative duties because anything else would make it impossible to deal with either community.

"Therefore, Kosova wins, since we dont have any reason to negotiate with serbia..."

That's true because the UN will clearly be doing that on your behalf. Ultimately, the best outcome for everyone would be gained through direct consultation between Belgrade and Pristina, but that seems a long way off.

Serbs have been tricked like no other time before. They accepted EULEX, which comes out of Ahtisaari plan. Remember a while ago the saying of Serbs " If we accept EULEX it means we accept Kosova's Independence"... Therefore quietly Serbia accepted Kosova's Independence.
Serbs accepted a plan that does not accept Kosova as a part of Serbia.

i guess the devils in the details. eulex is status neutral therefore its not concerned with the question of souvreigntie for either kosovo or serbia.im surprised serbia approved it, i guess russia is right inevitably somewhere down the track serbia and kosovo must sit down and fialise this before entry into the euro family

Jakup Krasniqi, Kosova's parliament speaker: if The Contact Group breaches its promise, Albanians in the Balkans should and will consider joining Albania http://www.telegrafi.com/?id=2&a=2878

Amantia,

Your strategy of outbreeding everyone else for domination is so medieval.

Yes, i agree with many of the other posters: there is, as always, a certain amount of ambiguity with this agreement, which pleases many diplomats though not partisans of one POV or another, incl myself.

but as i've said many times, independence and democracy are not instant nor easy -- they are hard fought and hard won, at best, through peaceful means.

we of the pro-independence, pro democracy side (whatever our nationality, ethnicity...) have known that this was a kind of "transitional" independence, in which a certain amount of outside supervision was expected, perhaps required. that is not a bad thing, as long as it is done in cooperation with the govt (of Kosovo/a) and in the interests of ALL of the people, which are not just one or even 2 ethnicities.

all human and civil rights need to be protected, and encouraged, all over the country. no section, whatever anyone claims, is exempt. period.

meanwhile we should not and MUST not be goaded by all of the usual (less than intellectual) comments about fake this, mickey mouse that, snake this, masters that. it is all just so much baloney and cheese, and we really need to try to take the high road past it.

and that is not something I find always ez to do, esp with such comments as "daytonize" the whole thing. it really makes me want to -------.

but as was martin luther king's theme, keep your eyes on the prize. and from my new president: Hope, not Hate.

thank you.

roberto/ frisco

Mike and ZK - You are both so right. Using women as breeding machines and children as land grab tools is hardly in line with modern living, let alone EU social standards.

Besides which, as I understand it health care is very poor in Kosovo. The risk to mothers and babies must be very high.

I am sure there must be plenty of Kosovo Albanians who are embarrassed by such medieval attitudes.

There have been posters on here taunting other nationalities for having one or two kids and not being 'real men'. That sort of thinking is just mind boggling.

After reading the report, I do not see how anyone can claim a "victory". The so-called much talked about 6 point plan is very ambiguous and open to interpretations. It basically says there will be dialogue and discussions.
The only thing really concrete was that the north would be under the laws of UNMIK for up to 60 days following the reopening of the court system, which should be almost up.

One interesting thing in the report was freedom of movement. According to the report 96% of minorities move freely outside of their community. And that freedom of movement is only a problem for the minority Albanian population in the North.
It also blames the decrease in returns on the closure by the Serbia govt of the Kosovo Property Agency making it impossible to verify property ownership.
----Remember this report received the blessing of the Serbian govt. Not just an Ok, but a victorious agreement with the report.

1244 emphasizes that Kosovo is part of Yugoslavia. It also emphasizes that there will be status talks. Status talks are over, Kosovo already declared independence and the EU, an organization overwhelmingly recognizing Kosovo's independence, is authorized to deploy their people there.

What does it tell us? Maybe that you turn this whole issue as you like it to be. However, the integration to the EU which is the aim of some countries in that region claims that all states have to settle their issues concerning borders, minorities, etc. So from that perspective, nobody will join it there, as long as it is like this now.

its very funny, i see all the time the same people comenting here. and they start a discussion which is already prepared somewhere, i.e. for those who lived in the past in Eastern Europe is like reading the Communist\socialist Party newspaper.
This is for those who will reject my comment: You should be ashamed by using such old methods for propaganda.
pffffffff

>>> Using women as breeding machines and children as land grab tools is hardly in line with modern living, let alone EU social standards.

Beats what Serbs did in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosova: killing and expelling non-Serbs

The Serbian government is fooling it self and the citizens. The EU is only looking away to get its foot in the door and inside ,the door will be coming of its hinges. I guess people never learn only believe in some fictitious imaginary pie in the sky. How many more slices would you like it will cost you dearly.

UNMIK is "status neutral". I wonder how "status neutral" will be EULEX which is composed of countries that have recognized (non-status neutral) Republic of Kosovo.

Again, I am not sure what everyone is talking about here. Clearly the statement adopted by UN does not mention 6 or 4 points of either side. It merely allows EULEX in Kosovo.

So the question everyone should ask is how did EULEX come about? Who created it and with what purpose it was created?

In the light of the answers for the above questions I don’t get the euphoria of Serb politicians about their perceived victory (maybe this one is another one along many “victories” Serbs did in the past. Jeremic speech was an eerie remainder of Milosevic’s era and his famous victory against NATO loaded with nonsense, a more appropriate word would be censored, not suitable for a diplomat at the post he finds himself).

The fact that both sides will interpret this as they please and wish deserves no comment as is obvious from the spin they attribute to this event. You just need to listen to media in Serbia and Kosovo and you get to wonder if they are speaking about the same event.

For those that want to read and form their own opinion then please check UN site and find the report that secretary general submitted

[link]/ ([link])

In my opinion Serb leaders have more to worry about than rejoice if they really, really care about Kosovo (which I don’t think they care at all but instead use Kosovo to manipulate Serb people and consolidate their political grip in Serbia).

In more than one reference the report equalizes Republic of Kosovo with that of Republic of Serbia and Secretary General goes at great length to make the point that UN is neutral with regards to Kosovo status (so Kosovo is not independent but it is not part of Serbia either).

Anyway read the report and conclude for yourself if anything can be done without the consent of the Authorities of the Republic of Kosovo as Secretary General himself wrote in the report and has instructed its Special Representative in Kosovo to do so.

Daniel Fried after the UNSC statement:

"Kosovo made it very clear that it does not accept the six-point plan. The Secretary General report says very clearly that the EULEX deployment and the transfer from UNMIK to EULEX will be done in coordination and in consolidation with the Kosovar authorities. Nothing will be done without Kosovo, and everything that will be done, Kosovo will be consulted. Importantly, the six-point plan is explicitly stated as an interim plan, not mandatory or obligatory to be implemented by anyone, and the UN's Presidential Declaration does not even mention the six-point plan" This is a good thing for the sovereignty of Kosovo. This shows that Kosovo was able to insist on respecting its sovereignty. And the world now has accepted the fact that the Kosovo Government should be listened to about issues that have to do with Kosovo. Now I need to say that the Kosovo institutions will function in the north, but time and patience is needed…and in this way, Kosovo will be unified. Anyhow, we the United States will cooperate with EULEX, we will be part of EULEX, knowing that this is a rule of law mission and law should be enforced throughout your country, " concluded Fried.

Kate and other,

Do you really think that the statements coming from the Serbian officials are credible?

There is an Italian say "Tra dire e fare ce' mezzo un mare" which means "There is a sea between say and doing something"
The Kosova's government will full co-operate with EULEX but on the other side will be very very critical if its mission doesn't work confirm the Kosova's Constitution. No decision will be made without approval of Kosova's authorities. To the enthusiastic Serbs laughs well whom laughs the last!

Not just Serbia, but the whole EU will be albanian.
(Jon, 29 November 2008 13:16)

Why not USA, Russia, China as well? Be a man, you should not hold your ambitions that much back as Serbia or EU.

Dear Jon,
Thank you for your telling comments.

I wish all the best to your current and future children. Good bless them.

Srba

Roberto,

Please look at "snake" and "pigeon" biography on wiki, for instance - before protecting these criminals from critics.

Besides, everyone who enters the field of politics does "risk" to be publicly bashed by anyone who dares to disagree. Unless we want enver hoxha, saddam or milosevic back from the hell, of course.

We will take north by building around Albanian homes there and high birth rates.

Kate, I am a proud Albanian and I am planning to have 5-9 childrens (currently I have 4). Not just Serbia, but the whole EU will be albanian.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wonderful, you sound just like the Palistinians and all other Muslim extremists in the Middle East. What has any Albanian done for the world that warrants such proudness, at least Serbia has Nikola Tesla and others.

My country was soooo wrong to get involved in the Balkans, let along side with fascist Nazi collaborators like the ethnic Albanians (Skanderbeg) and the "Bosniaks" (Handzar), I won't even get into the Ustache and Jasnevac.

Well, in conclusion, I have to say the countries, including mine, that backed Kosovo's independence are now in a economic nightmare, it does appear we are reaping what we have sown. I seriously doubt Kosovo's separatist govt will be getting nearly as much money as they had hoped to get. I would much rather have my hard earned taxpayer money go to fixing my country than propping up a unviable waste of time like the ethnic Albanian dominated and stolen province of Kosovo & Metohija. Let's see if your beloved Albania can foot the bill, I seriously doubt it.