Priština prepares for EULEX

How can Hyseni call Kosovo multi ethnic? On paper maybe, but you 've got to ask yourselves this question - Why is it that Kosovo AND Albania have the smallest proportion of ethnic minorities? Rampant nationalism. They tolerate no-one who isn't Albanian and they want to join Europe!!! Are they ultimately hoping to kick out all the Europeans from Europe in the next few hundred years and claim that western Europe was always Albanina land?

EULEX got the green light on the basis of the 6 point plan. Yseni is still under the illusion of a multi-ethnic Kosovo. Finally, the Ahtisari plan is not envisioned within the framework of this deployment. Sorry to burst a few bubbles again.

Skender Hyseni You should not forget that EULEX was allowed to be deployed by the UNSC and Serbia BASED on the agreed six point plan.

Your Kosovo constitution is a HOAX and with NO legality.

“We and those that support us say that Kosovo independence is a process that cannot be reversed. We hope that the decisions of the International Court of Justice will not stop nations from across the globe recognizing Kosovo’s independence and its progress,”
Lots of hoping there Skender! It doesn't seem like you are so confident anymore. THen again, I wouldn't be confident either after a series of negative outcomes. The message here for all concerned is that the world isn't a fairytale like some in the past wanted to make it out to be. In the fairytale, the Kosovo ALbanians are good and the Serbs are evil. The Kosovo ALbanians defeated the Serbs, although not really as the rebels were being defeated pretty badly until they got a bunch of big nations to support their war, and now they will live happily ever after, although on US and EU taxpayers' money. Well, as you know, fairytales are for children, not adults. The reality is that the Serbs aren't evil and the Albanians aren't pure good. There are good and bad people in both areas. The fact is that the world is about compromise. The UN security counsil decision is about compromise. I suggest that Skender and his fellow Kosovo Albanians come to live with the idea of compromise and forget the fairytales. They make good bedtime stories, but that's it.

Pristina prepares for EULEX, but I hope Hyseni and the rest of his group prepare for a reality check as their "country" has just been legally defined as an international protectorate.

I have to agree with some of my fellow readers that multiethnic Kosovo is just a fairytale. There is no chance that serbian or k-albanians will live together under one flag. The 6-point plan by the UN does not guarantee Kosovo's border. I can see in a near future that northern Kosovo will join Serbia and the rest will join Albania together with north-west Macedonia. That's what we all want isn't it? Serbians in one state, and all the Albanians in one state. And let's start trading and making business.

Regardless if you serbs claim victory of these events, it is a nonsense in reality. Kosovo is independent has its own flag and laws which slowly will become effective accross the country. We won the war in 1999 and now you guys will try to claim anything that makes you feel satisfied. The reality is that sooner or later, villages and small towns north of Mitrovica will be under Kosovan government rule.

How can Hyseni call Kosovo multi ethnic? On paper maybe, but you 've got to ask yourselves this question - Why is it that Kosovo AND Albania have the smallest proportion of ethnic minorities? …
(Radoslav, 27 November 2008 13:11)

Radoslav, You sound that you have never lived in Balkans.
Living in an open society where information is freely in your computer monitor, you must know by now that Albanians never invaded any nation territory. In contrary most then half of ethnic Albanians territories where left out from London Conference and Berlin Congress until 1913. Parts of territories were given to neighbors in a mean “proportional” way that Albanians never could have any majority. Look at Albanian territories in Montenegro, those are small because Montenegro is a small country and cannot “digest” more territory from Albanians. Kosovo and Presevo were given to Serbia and not to Montenegro or Macedonia. So, BIG Serbia can easy bully Albanians and you see the result. Don’t forget that even today Albanian was in those borders not because for mercy of Serbia but with big fight for freedom from Albanians. This piece of Albanians land that is called Republic of Albania has much minorities as you say because is middle part of Albanian territories and it easy understandable why. I am asking you a question; Why Serbia has too much minorities? Can you answer honestly that Hungarians in Vojvodina are not minority but part of Hungarian territories taken by force by Serbia with Russia’s help in 1918? What about Albanians in Presevo, Albanian territories taking by force by Serbia with Russia’s help earlier, in 1913. So my friend there is no minority case here. It is occupation of someone territories. If you sell only tomatoes in your store and take a box of potatoes from your neighbor’s store, obviously your store is going to have different vegetables and your neighbor’s store not.

Maks - in the early 1900's the serb albanian mix in kosovo was roughly 50/50. under serbian, then yugoslav (or should i say Tito)rule, the serb population has shrunk to 10%. a combination of a higher albanian birthrate but also thousands of albanians crossing into what was then friendly Yugoslavia to escape Enver Hoxa.

I still don't understand your reason why Albania after 100 years of independence has only a small minority (about 5%). If Albania is such a great multi ethnic and tolerant society, why such a small number?

As for montenegro, do you suggest they give the land back to Albania?

Skender Hyseni is simply putting up a show for domestic politics. He knows 1. that he has to portray this as a victory for domestic policy reasons, and 2. that it really doesn't matter,, since no . Alb will ever notice the difference anyway.

What he says is irrelevant. And he knows it. That's why he says what he says. IT isn't the Kosovo authorities that rule Kosovo, it's the EU and the US.

Unfortunately, K. Alb will slowly start to understand that. And, worse, that will happen at the same time the K. Alb realizes that he is getting poorer, not richer. And that the money from the West where loans that has both interest and repayment schedules, and where not for free.

So, Tachi, what do you do when your own people turn real sour? What will the snake do? Crack down on your own people? Blame the international community and be back on their black list? Or blame the Serbs, instigating a new Serbian Holocaust?

I guess the last option looks favourable - that's a game you know how to play. Except this time the Western powers won't cheer and give you weapons. They'll try to protect the Serbs instead.

Your quasi-country is heading for shaky waters, Snake. Real shaky!

>>>>>>>"I can see in a near future that northern Kosovo will join Serbia and the rest will join Albania together with north-west Macedonia. That's what we all want isn't it? Serbians in one state, and all the Albanians in one state."

Albanians in Presheva and FYROM put down their weapons so Kosova would have their independence. EU /NATO will keep their word, Albanians will keep theirs.

What's interesting and obvious to the rest of us in the west, reading this document and most Serb readers have not so far understood, on these forums, is that Ban explicity said in his 6 point formula, is that this Eulex ==reconfiguration of unmik is a "temporary" solution and that Eulex will be operating status neutral in Kosovo and it will 'respect' 1244, not observe the rules of 1244.

People, understand that "respect" and observe the rules of 1244 are 2 different procedures. Sort of like how Jews may "respect" Christmas or Easter rules/traditions of Christians, by never stopping their Christian workers from observing their holiday 'rules/traditions' but the Jewish company owners do not, in no way, follow the rules of Christian tradition. They may step aside and let Christians have a party, kris kringle gift x-change and even bonuses or a week off of work but a Jewish boss/owner will not go to mass or follow any other type of religious rule of Christian traditions. And vice versa.

Status neutral does not reflect or include the adherence to 1244 observation of one ot its rules: territorial integrity of Serbia. It just 'respects' the rules of 1244, but does not define Eulex's actions/rules in Kosova, just the 'respect' of 1244. Which is exactly what is intended in the Ahtissari plan, even though it is not spelled out for people to read in the Ban's report.

And, in the report itself, it begins with how 'facts on the ground have changed', which makes it necessay for unmik's reconfig. to reflect these new facts, including Kosovo's UDI and constitution and the recognition of foreign nations of Kosovo's statehood.
This is why he called this 'Report", 6-Point plan ..whatever people call it, a temporary solution. The fact is, Eulex's main job is to integrate all communities into Kosovo's institutions and monitor the development of these democratic arms of government. Mainly, stabilize the situation, and just be a monitor and mentor for the newest state in Europe.

I know the Kosova leaders understand these facts of Eulex's role in their nation.

And, I thank Tadic & co. for agreeing to this 'process' or step towards full recognition of the Republic of Kosovo.

If Serbs feel/think or act contrary to the plan they agreed to, then they can probably expect events as described in comment #5 by Albanian. Good luck to all the people.

Lilly,

The EU mission can only work within the framework of 1244. It can do nothing not allowed by that framework. The UN is fully in charge!

So please forget Kosovo independence, please!

Or... or... let's have REAL negotiations. Where both sides must give up things! Not only Serbia!

Skender Hyseni You should not forget that EULEX was allowed to be deployed by the UNSC and Serbia BASED on the agreed six point plan.

Your Kosovo constitution is a HOAX and with NO legality.

“We and those that support us say that Kosovo independence is a process that cannot be reversed. We hope that the decisions of the International Court of Justice will not stop nations from across the globe recognizing Kosovo’s independence and its progress,”
Lots of hoping there Skender! It doesn't seem like you are so confident anymore. THen again, I wouldn't be confident either after a series of negative outcomes. The message here for all concerned is that the world isn't a fairytale like some in the past wanted to make it out to be. In the fairytale, the Kosovo ALbanians are good and the Serbs are evil. The Kosovo ALbanians defeated the Serbs, although not really as the rebels were being defeated pretty badly until they got a bunch of big nations to support their war, and now they will live happily ever after, although on US and EU taxpayers' money. Well, as you know, fairytales are for children, not adults. The reality is that the Serbs aren't evil and the Albanians aren't pure good. There are good and bad people in both areas. The fact is that the world is about compromise. The UN security counsil decision is about compromise. I suggest that Skender and his fellow Kosovo Albanians come to live with the idea of compromise and forget the fairytales. They make good bedtime stories, but that's it.

EULEX got the green light on the basis of the 6 point plan. Yseni is still under the illusion of a multi-ethnic Kosovo. Finally, the Ahtisari plan is not envisioned within the framework of this deployment. Sorry to burst a few bubbles again.

How can Hyseni call Kosovo multi ethnic? On paper maybe, but you 've got to ask yourselves this question - Why is it that Kosovo AND Albania have the smallest proportion of ethnic minorities? Rampant nationalism. They tolerate no-one who isn't Albanian and they want to join Europe!!! Are they ultimately hoping to kick out all the Europeans from Europe in the next few hundred years and claim that western Europe was always Albanina land?

I have to agree with some of my fellow readers that multiethnic Kosovo is just a fairytale. There is no chance that serbian or k-albanians will live together under one flag. The 6-point plan by the UN does not guarantee Kosovo's border. I can see in a near future that northern Kosovo will join Serbia and the rest will join Albania together with north-west Macedonia. That's what we all want isn't it? Serbians in one state, and all the Albanians in one state. And let's start trading and making business.

Regardless if you serbs claim victory of these events, it is a nonsense in reality. Kosovo is independent has its own flag and laws which slowly will become effective accross the country. We won the war in 1999 and now you guys will try to claim anything that makes you feel satisfied. The reality is that sooner or later, villages and small towns north of Mitrovica will be under Kosovan government rule.

How can Hyseni call Kosovo multi ethnic? On paper maybe, but you 've got to ask yourselves this question - Why is it that Kosovo AND Albania have the smallest proportion of ethnic minorities? …
(Radoslav, 27 November 2008 13:11)

Radoslav, You sound that you have never lived in Balkans.
Living in an open society where information is freely in your computer monitor, you must know by now that Albanians never invaded any nation territory. In contrary most then half of ethnic Albanians territories where left out from London Conference and Berlin Congress until 1913. Parts of territories were given to neighbors in a mean “proportional” way that Albanians never could have any majority. Look at Albanian territories in Montenegro, those are small because Montenegro is a small country and cannot “digest” more territory from Albanians. Kosovo and Presevo were given to Serbia and not to Montenegro or Macedonia. So, BIG Serbia can easy bully Albanians and you see the result. Don’t forget that even today Albanian was in those borders not because for mercy of Serbia but with big fight for freedom from Albanians. This piece of Albanians land that is called Republic of Albania has much minorities as you say because is middle part of Albanian territories and it easy understandable why. I am asking you a question; Why Serbia has too much minorities? Can you answer honestly that Hungarians in Vojvodina are not minority but part of Hungarian territories taken by force by Serbia with Russia’s help in 1918? What about Albanians in Presevo, Albanian territories taking by force by Serbia with Russia’s help earlier, in 1913. So my friend there is no minority case here. It is occupation of someone territories. If you sell only tomatoes in your store and take a box of potatoes from your neighbor’s store, obviously your store is going to have different vegetables and your neighbor’s store not.

Pristina prepares for EULEX, but I hope Hyseni and the rest of his group prepare for a reality check as their "country" has just been legally defined as an international protectorate.

What's interesting and obvious to the rest of us in the west, reading this document and most Serb readers have not so far understood, on these forums, is that Ban explicity said in his 6 point formula, is that this Eulex ==reconfiguration of unmik is a "temporary" solution and that Eulex will be operating status neutral in Kosovo and it will 'respect' 1244, not observe the rules of 1244.

People, understand that "respect" and observe the rules of 1244 are 2 different procedures. Sort of like how Jews may "respect" Christmas or Easter rules/traditions of Christians, by never stopping their Christian workers from observing their holiday 'rules/traditions' but the Jewish company owners do not, in no way, follow the rules of Christian tradition. They may step aside and let Christians have a party, kris kringle gift x-change and even bonuses or a week off of work but a Jewish boss/owner will not go to mass or follow any other type of religious rule of Christian traditions. And vice versa.

Status neutral does not reflect or include the adherence to 1244 observation of one ot its rules: territorial integrity of Serbia. It just 'respects' the rules of 1244, but does not define Eulex's actions/rules in Kosova, just the 'respect' of 1244. Which is exactly what is intended in the Ahtissari plan, even though it is not spelled out for people to read in the Ban's report.

And, in the report itself, it begins with how 'facts on the ground have changed', which makes it necessay for unmik's reconfig. to reflect these new facts, including Kosovo's UDI and constitution and the recognition of foreign nations of Kosovo's statehood.
This is why he called this 'Report", 6-Point plan ..whatever people call it, a temporary solution. The fact is, Eulex's main job is to integrate all communities into Kosovo's institutions and monitor the development of these democratic arms of government. Mainly, stabilize the situation, and just be a monitor and mentor for the newest state in Europe.

I know the Kosova leaders understand these facts of Eulex's role in their nation.

And, I thank Tadic & co. for agreeing to this 'process' or step towards full recognition of the Republic of Kosovo.

If Serbs feel/think or act contrary to the plan they agreed to, then they can probably expect events as described in comment #5 by Albanian. Good luck to all the people.

>>>>>>>"I can see in a near future that northern Kosovo will join Serbia and the rest will join Albania together with north-west Macedonia. That's what we all want isn't it? Serbians in one state, and all the Albanians in one state."

Albanians in Presheva and FYROM put down their weapons so Kosova would have their independence. EU /NATO will keep their word, Albanians will keep theirs.

Skender Hyseni is simply putting up a show for domestic politics. He knows 1. that he has to portray this as a victory for domestic policy reasons, and 2. that it really doesn't matter,, since no . Alb will ever notice the difference anyway.

What he says is irrelevant. And he knows it. That's why he says what he says. IT isn't the Kosovo authorities that rule Kosovo, it's the EU and the US.

Unfortunately, K. Alb will slowly start to understand that. And, worse, that will happen at the same time the K. Alb realizes that he is getting poorer, not richer. And that the money from the West where loans that has both interest and repayment schedules, and where not for free.

So, Tachi, what do you do when your own people turn real sour? What will the snake do? Crack down on your own people? Blame the international community and be back on their black list? Or blame the Serbs, instigating a new Serbian Holocaust?

I guess the last option looks favourable - that's a game you know how to play. Except this time the Western powers won't cheer and give you weapons. They'll try to protect the Serbs instead.

Your quasi-country is heading for shaky waters, Snake. Real shaky!

Maks - in the early 1900's the serb albanian mix in kosovo was roughly 50/50. under serbian, then yugoslav (or should i say Tito)rule, the serb population has shrunk to 10%. a combination of a higher albanian birthrate but also thousands of albanians crossing into what was then friendly Yugoslavia to escape Enver Hoxa.

I still don't understand your reason why Albania after 100 years of independence has only a small minority (about 5%). If Albania is such a great multi ethnic and tolerant society, why such a small number?

As for montenegro, do you suggest they give the land back to Albania?

Lilly,

The EU mission can only work within the framework of 1244. It can do nothing not allowed by that framework. The UN is fully in charge!

So please forget Kosovo independence, please!

Or... or... let's have REAL negotiations. Where both sides must give up things! Not only Serbia!