Don't think you can just slice a chunk of a country!
(blerton, 25 November 2008 12:43)
Blerton, I fully agree. its high time the K-Albanians went back to the negotiating table and respected Serbia's territorial integrity and international law by accepting Belgrade's offer of maximum autonomy.
To Mike:
"Daytonize the damn thing and move". To be completely honest, this statement is not only arrogant, but it's also anti-human. If you don't want to help me, then you can mind your own business. I;'m not asking for anything from you or anyone else. So, go and daytonize your family and relatives, not my life.
If you deny me my freedom, you leave me no choice. if you deprive me of life, then i have to react. If you think you can swallow a part of Kosovo, then be prepared for new secessions. If serbia wants to apply the partition card, then let's make it a universal principle, and not a particular one. Then we have a lot to talk about. there is presevo, bujanoc, medvegje, macedonia, montenegro.
Don't think you can just slice a chunk of a country!
Well in Kosova the things are 95 to 5- what neutrality you want... they are already too neutral speaking with the 5 in teh same level as with the 95... this is beyond any rational thing and is stupid.
(ben, 24 November 2008 23:37)
Dear Ben,
You keep insisting that Albanians have no right to be ruled by Belgrade, and that Albanians outnumber ethnically cleansed Serbs 95 to 5, well Serbs outnumber Albanians North of Mitrovica by 95 to 5, don't you think that the same principles should apply for the Serbs regarding self-determination?
The Albanians have no bargaining power at all, all you can do is threat with violence and write waite and see comments.. and we are Illirians jiberish, I'm sure you can pick on the isolated Serb Farmer in Kosovo, it feeds your ego..
As for numbers the Albanians have been breeding excessively since near the end of the Ottoman Empire whilst slowy ethnically cleansing the region of christians, of course this is your aim... hence the strategy... e.g we are 95 to 5 etc etc... We are not blind..
I can't believ when people call about neutrality in teh meaning of 50-50.
Well in Kosova the things are 95 to 5- what neutrality you want... they are already too neutral speaking with the 5 in teh same level as with the 95... this is beyond any rational thing and is stupid.
If rumors of Feith's impending resignation, should the UNSC pass the agreed compromise between Belgrade and Brussels, be true, I'd say it's an added bonus for Belgrade. Feith has been anything but objective when it comes to governing the EU's first Protectorate. A neutral EU should have a neutral executive body.
>>>>> It is time for some proper negotiations based on "more than autonomy, less than independence". That is more than the Albanians have now or will ever get.
Well, I can't predict everything but I can predict that short of brute force making 1999 look like a joke, that will not happen. What are the odds of that happening ZK within a decade or two ? Especially as everyone is joining NATO, EU and Kosova will have it's own armed forces (in addition to police)?
I really hope that Feith goes. He has been nothing but trouble since he went there. Given the EU's position on the UDI, he has absolutely no right to be advocating independence in the way that he has. The sooner he is out, the better.
Demi, if this EU mission deploys with its six points then all of the Albanians must resist its deployment as much as possible. Just remember that they will not deploy to Serbian areas unless they are accepted into the Albanian sections. Time to remove this mission once and for all I think.
However, if the 6 points are rejected, the only option for the mission is to deploy into the Albanian areas illegally as they will not be accepted by the Serbians. So much for the "rule of law" mission when it is illegal itself.
Hopefully the whole idea will be buried just like this illegal independence movement. It is time for some proper negotiations based on "more than autonomy, less than independence". That is more than the Albanians have now or will ever get.
Eulex with six point loveletter from Serbia will not survive in Kosovo. The people of kosovo in that case will not respect Eulex. Then Eulex can maybee go and deploy in Serbia with it's six point loveletter. Six point loveletter has no future as long as albanians live in Kosovo and for that matter Eulex will die.
If the goverment of Kosovo dosen't respect Eulex with six point's then how is Eulex going to be depoloyed ? Should they controll Kosovo with 1800 men ?`The albanian police,custom and judges will not work together with Eulex if eulex deployes on this six point. What would Eulex do then ? Work against the people of Kosovc and start a war ?
But anyway B92 forgot to report that Solana mantioned that Eulex will be deployed with the agreement made by Kosovo and EU in february. That means that the six point loveletter from Serbia is dead.
I will be happy to see the disepoitment of the serbs when Ban reports that the six point plan is dead. What will serbs do then ? Burn some ambasedes ?
Eulex with six point loveletter from Serbia will not survive in Kosovo. The people of kosovo in that case will not respect Eulex. Then Eulex can maybee go and deploy in Serbia with it's six point loveletter. Six point loveletter has no future as long as albanians live in Kosovo and for that matter Eulex will die.
If the goverment of Kosovo dosen't respect Eulex with six point's then how is Eulex going to be depoloyed ? Should they controll Kosovo with 1800 men ?`The albanian police,custom and judges will not work together with Eulex if eulex deployes on this six point. What would Eulex do then ? Work against the people of Kosovc and start a war ?
But anyway B92 forgot to report that Solana mantioned that Eulex will be deployed with the agreement made by Kosovo and EU in february. That means that the six point loveletter from Serbia is dead.
I will be happy to see the disepoitment of the serbs when Ban reports that the six point plan is dead. What will serbs do then ? Burn some ambasedes ?
Demi, if this EU mission deploys with its six points then all of the Albanians must resist its deployment as much as possible. Just remember that they will not deploy to Serbian areas unless they are accepted into the Albanian sections. Time to remove this mission once and for all I think.
However, if the 6 points are rejected, the only option for the mission is to deploy into the Albanian areas illegally as they will not be accepted by the Serbians. So much for the "rule of law" mission when it is illegal itself.
Hopefully the whole idea will be buried just like this illegal independence movement. It is time for some proper negotiations based on "more than autonomy, less than independence". That is more than the Albanians have now or will ever get.
I really hope that Feith goes. He has been nothing but trouble since he went there. Given the EU's position on the UDI, he has absolutely no right to be advocating independence in the way that he has. The sooner he is out, the better.
If rumors of Feith's impending resignation, should the UNSC pass the agreed compromise between Belgrade and Brussels, be true, I'd say it's an added bonus for Belgrade. Feith has been anything but objective when it comes to governing the EU's first Protectorate. A neutral EU should have a neutral executive body.
I can't believ when people call about neutrality in teh meaning of 50-50.
Well in Kosova the things are 95 to 5- what neutrality you want... they are already too neutral speaking with the 5 in teh same level as with the 95... this is beyond any rational thing and is stupid.
>>>>> It is time for some proper negotiations based on "more than autonomy, less than independence". That is more than the Albanians have now or will ever get.
Well, I can't predict everything but I can predict that short of brute force making 1999 look like a joke, that will not happen. What are the odds of that happening ZK within a decade or two ? Especially as everyone is joining NATO, EU and Kosova will have it's own armed forces (in addition to police)?
Well in Kosova the things are 95 to 5- what neutrality you want... they are already too neutral speaking with the 5 in teh same level as with the 95... this is beyond any rational thing and is stupid.
(ben, 24 November 2008 23:37)
Dear Ben,
You keep insisting that Albanians have no right to be ruled by Belgrade, and that Albanians outnumber ethnically cleansed Serbs 95 to 5, well Serbs outnumber Albanians North of Mitrovica by 95 to 5, don't you think that the same principles should apply for the Serbs regarding self-determination?
The Albanians have no bargaining power at all, all you can do is threat with violence and write waite and see comments.. and we are Illirians jiberish, I'm sure you can pick on the isolated Serb Farmer in Kosovo, it feeds your ego..
As for numbers the Albanians have been breeding excessively since near the end of the Ottoman Empire whilst slowy ethnically cleansing the region of christians, of course this is your aim... hence the strategy... e.g we are 95 to 5 etc etc... We are not blind..
Don't think you can just slice a chunk of a country!
(blerton, 25 November 2008 12:43)
Blerton, I fully agree. its high time the K-Albanians went back to the negotiating table and respected Serbia's territorial integrity and international law by accepting Belgrade's offer of maximum autonomy.
To Mike:
"Daytonize the damn thing and move". To be completely honest, this statement is not only arrogant, but it's also anti-human. If you don't want to help me, then you can mind your own business. I;'m not asking for anything from you or anyone else. So, go and daytonize your family and relatives, not my life.
If you deny me my freedom, you leave me no choice. if you deprive me of life, then i have to react. If you think you can swallow a part of Kosovo, then be prepared for new secessions. If serbia wants to apply the partition card, then let's make it a universal principle, and not a particular one. Then we have a lot to talk about. there is presevo, bujanoc, medvegje, macedonia, montenegro.
Don't think you can just slice a chunk of a country!
Eulex with six point loveletter from Serbia will not survive in Kosovo. The people of kosovo in that case will not respect Eulex. Then Eulex can maybee go and deploy in Serbia with it's six point loveletter. Six point loveletter has no future as long as albanians live in Kosovo and for that matter Eulex will die.
If the goverment of Kosovo dosen't respect Eulex with six point's then how is Eulex going to be depoloyed ? Should they controll Kosovo with 1800 men ?`The albanian police,custom and judges will not work together with Eulex if eulex deployes on this six point. What would Eulex do then ? Work against the people of Kosovc and start a war ?
But anyway B92 forgot to report that Solana mantioned that Eulex will be deployed with the agreement made by Kosovo and EU in february. That means that the six point loveletter from Serbia is dead.
I will be happy to see the disepoitment of the serbs when Ban reports that the six point plan is dead. What will serbs do then ? Burn some ambasedes ?
Demi, if this EU mission deploys with its six points then all of the Albanians must resist its deployment as much as possible. Just remember that they will not deploy to Serbian areas unless they are accepted into the Albanian sections. Time to remove this mission once and for all I think.
However, if the 6 points are rejected, the only option for the mission is to deploy into the Albanian areas illegally as they will not be accepted by the Serbians. So much for the "rule of law" mission when it is illegal itself.
Hopefully the whole idea will be buried just like this illegal independence movement. It is time for some proper negotiations based on "more than autonomy, less than independence". That is more than the Albanians have now or will ever get.
>>>>> It is time for some proper negotiations based on "more than autonomy, less than independence". That is more than the Albanians have now or will ever get.
Well, I can't predict everything but I can predict that short of brute force making 1999 look like a joke, that will not happen. What are the odds of that happening ZK within a decade or two ? Especially as everyone is joining NATO, EU and Kosova will have it's own armed forces (in addition to police)?
I really hope that Feith goes. He has been nothing but trouble since he went there. Given the EU's position on the UDI, he has absolutely no right to be advocating independence in the way that he has. The sooner he is out, the better.
I can't believ when people call about neutrality in teh meaning of 50-50.
Well in Kosova the things are 95 to 5- what neutrality you want... they are already too neutral speaking with the 5 in teh same level as with the 95... this is beyond any rational thing and is stupid.
If rumors of Feith's impending resignation, should the UNSC pass the agreed compromise between Belgrade and Brussels, be true, I'd say it's an added bonus for Belgrade. Feith has been anything but objective when it comes to governing the EU's first Protectorate. A neutral EU should have a neutral executive body.
To Mike:
"Daytonize the damn thing and move". To be completely honest, this statement is not only arrogant, but it's also anti-human. If you don't want to help me, then you can mind your own business. I;'m not asking for anything from you or anyone else. So, go and daytonize your family and relatives, not my life.
If you deny me my freedom, you leave me no choice. if you deprive me of life, then i have to react. If you think you can swallow a part of Kosovo, then be prepared for new secessions. If serbia wants to apply the partition card, then let's make it a universal principle, and not a particular one. Then we have a lot to talk about. there is presevo, bujanoc, medvegje, macedonia, montenegro.
Don't think you can just slice a chunk of a country!
Well in Kosova the things are 95 to 5- what neutrality you want... they are already too neutral speaking with the 5 in teh same level as with the 95... this is beyond any rational thing and is stupid.
(ben, 24 November 2008 23:37)
Dear Ben,
You keep insisting that Albanians have no right to be ruled by Belgrade, and that Albanians outnumber ethnically cleansed Serbs 95 to 5, well Serbs outnumber Albanians North of Mitrovica by 95 to 5, don't you think that the same principles should apply for the Serbs regarding self-determination?
The Albanians have no bargaining power at all, all you can do is threat with violence and write waite and see comments.. and we are Illirians jiberish, I'm sure you can pick on the isolated Serb Farmer in Kosovo, it feeds your ego..
As for numbers the Albanians have been breeding excessively since near the end of the Ottoman Empire whilst slowy ethnically cleansing the region of christians, of course this is your aim... hence the strategy... e.g we are 95 to 5 etc etc... We are not blind..
Don't think you can just slice a chunk of a country!
(blerton, 25 November 2008 12:43)
Blerton, I fully agree. its high time the K-Albanians went back to the negotiating table and respected Serbia's territorial integrity and international law by accepting Belgrade's offer of maximum autonomy.
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