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Monday, 24.11.2008.

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Experts debate Serbo-Croat relations

SEIO Director Milica Delević does not expect the bilateral relations between Serbia and Croatia to be disrupted.

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bganon

pre 15 godina

'So you are blaming the RTS chief instead of blaming Wesley Clark and the perpetrators of this war crime?? '

No, I am blaming NATO for comitting a war crime and Milanovic for comitting a crime and a moral crime of knowingly allowing civilians to die.

You are wrong about me and what you think is a 'minority' of Serbs that condemn NATO crimes and certain activities undertaken by the Serbian side. Its a majority of people who share my views and a minority of spiteful radical types, who are unable to look at their own actions.

Serbia has shown that it will punish crimes committed by Serbs whether you like it or not. That is because some people here believe that this society should be run on the basis of rule of law and that one cannot be excused by the primative 'but I'm Serb' excuse.

My advice to you is to abide by universal principles and to stop pretending to yourself that you are some kind of eternal victim by association. The families of those killed were the victims of NATO action and the criminal act of Milanovic and Milosevic.

Have some respect for those victims instead of trying to make a political point out of things all the time.

'Bgannon, how exactly is Milosevic guilty for NATO dropping bombs on Belgrade?
Please explain this one as I cannot see it. '

No wonder you can't see it Peggy because I didn't say it. I don't think its for you to say who the victims should blame or not. They know better than you do who was to blame.

'I can't believe that you actually blame the victim here for getting bombed.'

Thats because I don't. The victims were those that perished in the RTS building and it appears you are the one blaming them for being angry with Milanovic.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

"Views like yours Dragan are beneath contempt. Go and tell the relatives who know that Milanovic was guilty for deliberately letting their loved ones die that this pathetic Milosevic yes man should be freed."

Bgannon, how exactly is Milosevic guilty for NATO dropping bombs on Belgrade?
Please explain this one as I cannot see it.

General Lewis MacKenzie openly states that Milosevic was presented with an agreement to sign which the west knew would not be acceptable to anyone. The west needed an excuse to bomb Serbia and they looked for any excuse even staged "Racak massacre" gave them an excuse.

The relatives of the dead should direct their anger at NATO and the US for this crime.

I can't believe that you actually blame the victim here for getting bombed.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

bganon,
So you are blaming the RTS chief instead of blaming Wesley Clark and the perpetrators of this war crime?? Would you blame people for staying in their home even if they were warned by the robbers that their home would be robbed?
Frankly, bganon, your views make me sick. You are an apologist for NATO and the war criminals that bombed Serbia for 78 days illegally, around the clock. It makes me sick that there are Serbs that share your beliefs, but luckily they are in the minority.
Get your head out of the sand and start blaming the aggressor, not the victim!!

bganon

pre 15 godina

'Let's not forget that these yellows are the same people that jailed the RTS chief for getting bombed by NATO, instead of blaming NATO who actually dropped the bombs and commited that war crime'

Views like yours Dragan are beneath contempt. Go and tell the relatives who know that Milanovic was guilty for deliberately letting their loved ones die that this pathetic Milosevic yes man should be freed.

This isn't a game where you support one side and other support another. This is real life, have some respect. The relatives know who dropped the bombs and they know who allowed their loved ones to die as a sacrifice.

Nelli

pre 15 godina

Improved regional relations have been set as one of the most important conditions for Serbia’s rapid EU integration.


Does that mean Serbia has to recognize Kosova's Independence?. Answer is YES.

Looks like the serb minority in Kosova will be an issue for a while because of EULEX however at the end I don't see anything else but peace in the region and all of them in EU.

Lets hope nothing happens with lawsuits that are being filed against each-other but even if nothing happens there will be a memory of hatred for years to come.

My opinion would be that Serbia pays(money) for crimes commited agaisnt all three countries so people will take it as sort of little revenge.

If Serbia wants to clean up the garbage left by Milosevic, time to act is right now!.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

So Tadic and his yellows actually offered an 'out of court settlement' to Croatia? That is Tadic's style, apologize to Croatia for getting ethnically cleansed in 1995, keeping quiet about their brutal genocide in WWII, and then offering the Croats money for all their deeds. Just like Washington and Brussels told him to, like a good boy. Unbelievable!!
Let's not forget that these yellows are the same people that jailed the RTS chief for getting bombed by NATO, instead of blaming NATO who actually dropped the bombs and commited that war crime.
I am glad Croatia sued Serbia, since that was the only way to push this toothless government into doing something that should have been done 60 years ago, which is sue Croatia for genocide!! The evidence against them is overwhelming, and everyone knows it, including their main sponsors the Germans.

Eltharion

pre 15 godina

Good neighbourly relations are a condition for all countries willing to join the EU, not only Serbia. This means that Croatia too have to make efforts in settle down its disputes with its neighbours if it wants to join the EU.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 15 godina

Dobrica Cosic once described the relationship as that of Cain and Abel. Until truth and reconcilliation happens there will never be peace. The Croatians still have to answer for WW2 genocide, as well as for their part in the wars that tore up Jugoslavija.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

So Tadic and his yellows actually offered an 'out of court settlement' to Croatia? That is Tadic's style, apologize to Croatia for getting ethnically cleansed in 1995, keeping quiet about their brutal genocide in WWII, and then offering the Croats money for all their deeds. Just like Washington and Brussels told him to, like a good boy. Unbelievable!!
Let's not forget that these yellows are the same people that jailed the RTS chief for getting bombed by NATO, instead of blaming NATO who actually dropped the bombs and commited that war crime.
I am glad Croatia sued Serbia, since that was the only way to push this toothless government into doing something that should have been done 60 years ago, which is sue Croatia for genocide!! The evidence against them is overwhelming, and everyone knows it, including their main sponsors the Germans.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

bganon,
So you are blaming the RTS chief instead of blaming Wesley Clark and the perpetrators of this war crime?? Would you blame people for staying in their home even if they were warned by the robbers that their home would be robbed?
Frankly, bganon, your views make me sick. You are an apologist for NATO and the war criminals that bombed Serbia for 78 days illegally, around the clock. It makes me sick that there are Serbs that share your beliefs, but luckily they are in the minority.
Get your head out of the sand and start blaming the aggressor, not the victim!!

Dragan, Toronto

pre 15 godina

Dobrica Cosic once described the relationship as that of Cain and Abel. Until truth and reconcilliation happens there will never be peace. The Croatians still have to answer for WW2 genocide, as well as for their part in the wars that tore up Jugoslavija.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

"Views like yours Dragan are beneath contempt. Go and tell the relatives who know that Milanovic was guilty for deliberately letting their loved ones die that this pathetic Milosevic yes man should be freed."

Bgannon, how exactly is Milosevic guilty for NATO dropping bombs on Belgrade?
Please explain this one as I cannot see it.

General Lewis MacKenzie openly states that Milosevic was presented with an agreement to sign which the west knew would not be acceptable to anyone. The west needed an excuse to bomb Serbia and they looked for any excuse even staged "Racak massacre" gave them an excuse.

The relatives of the dead should direct their anger at NATO and the US for this crime.

I can't believe that you actually blame the victim here for getting bombed.

Eltharion

pre 15 godina

Good neighbourly relations are a condition for all countries willing to join the EU, not only Serbia. This means that Croatia too have to make efforts in settle down its disputes with its neighbours if it wants to join the EU.

bganon

pre 15 godina

'Let's not forget that these yellows are the same people that jailed the RTS chief for getting bombed by NATO, instead of blaming NATO who actually dropped the bombs and commited that war crime'

Views like yours Dragan are beneath contempt. Go and tell the relatives who know that Milanovic was guilty for deliberately letting their loved ones die that this pathetic Milosevic yes man should be freed.

This isn't a game where you support one side and other support another. This is real life, have some respect. The relatives know who dropped the bombs and they know who allowed their loved ones to die as a sacrifice.

bganon

pre 15 godina

'So you are blaming the RTS chief instead of blaming Wesley Clark and the perpetrators of this war crime?? '

No, I am blaming NATO for comitting a war crime and Milanovic for comitting a crime and a moral crime of knowingly allowing civilians to die.

You are wrong about me and what you think is a 'minority' of Serbs that condemn NATO crimes and certain activities undertaken by the Serbian side. Its a majority of people who share my views and a minority of spiteful radical types, who are unable to look at their own actions.

Serbia has shown that it will punish crimes committed by Serbs whether you like it or not. That is because some people here believe that this society should be run on the basis of rule of law and that one cannot be excused by the primative 'but I'm Serb' excuse.

My advice to you is to abide by universal principles and to stop pretending to yourself that you are some kind of eternal victim by association. The families of those killed were the victims of NATO action and the criminal act of Milanovic and Milosevic.

Have some respect for those victims instead of trying to make a political point out of things all the time.

'Bgannon, how exactly is Milosevic guilty for NATO dropping bombs on Belgrade?
Please explain this one as I cannot see it. '

No wonder you can't see it Peggy because I didn't say it. I don't think its for you to say who the victims should blame or not. They know better than you do who was to blame.

'I can't believe that you actually blame the victim here for getting bombed.'

Thats because I don't. The victims were those that perished in the RTS building and it appears you are the one blaming them for being angry with Milanovic.

Nelli

pre 15 godina

Improved regional relations have been set as one of the most important conditions for Serbia’s rapid EU integration.


Does that mean Serbia has to recognize Kosova's Independence?. Answer is YES.

Looks like the serb minority in Kosova will be an issue for a while because of EULEX however at the end I don't see anything else but peace in the region and all of them in EU.

Lets hope nothing happens with lawsuits that are being filed against each-other but even if nothing happens there will be a memory of hatred for years to come.

My opinion would be that Serbia pays(money) for crimes commited agaisnt all three countries so people will take it as sort of little revenge.

If Serbia wants to clean up the garbage left by Milosevic, time to act is right now!.

Nelli

pre 15 godina

Improved regional relations have been set as one of the most important conditions for Serbia’s rapid EU integration.


Does that mean Serbia has to recognize Kosova's Independence?. Answer is YES.

Looks like the serb minority in Kosova will be an issue for a while because of EULEX however at the end I don't see anything else but peace in the region and all of them in EU.

Lets hope nothing happens with lawsuits that are being filed against each-other but even if nothing happens there will be a memory of hatred for years to come.

My opinion would be that Serbia pays(money) for crimes commited agaisnt all three countries so people will take it as sort of little revenge.

If Serbia wants to clean up the garbage left by Milosevic, time to act is right now!.

bganon

pre 15 godina

'Let's not forget that these yellows are the same people that jailed the RTS chief for getting bombed by NATO, instead of blaming NATO who actually dropped the bombs and commited that war crime'

Views like yours Dragan are beneath contempt. Go and tell the relatives who know that Milanovic was guilty for deliberately letting their loved ones die that this pathetic Milosevic yes man should be freed.

This isn't a game where you support one side and other support another. This is real life, have some respect. The relatives know who dropped the bombs and they know who allowed their loved ones to die as a sacrifice.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

So Tadic and his yellows actually offered an 'out of court settlement' to Croatia? That is Tadic's style, apologize to Croatia for getting ethnically cleansed in 1995, keeping quiet about their brutal genocide in WWII, and then offering the Croats money for all their deeds. Just like Washington and Brussels told him to, like a good boy. Unbelievable!!
Let's not forget that these yellows are the same people that jailed the RTS chief for getting bombed by NATO, instead of blaming NATO who actually dropped the bombs and commited that war crime.
I am glad Croatia sued Serbia, since that was the only way to push this toothless government into doing something that should have been done 60 years ago, which is sue Croatia for genocide!! The evidence against them is overwhelming, and everyone knows it, including their main sponsors the Germans.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

bganon,
So you are blaming the RTS chief instead of blaming Wesley Clark and the perpetrators of this war crime?? Would you blame people for staying in their home even if they were warned by the robbers that their home would be robbed?
Frankly, bganon, your views make me sick. You are an apologist for NATO and the war criminals that bombed Serbia for 78 days illegally, around the clock. It makes me sick that there are Serbs that share your beliefs, but luckily they are in the minority.
Get your head out of the sand and start blaming the aggressor, not the victim!!

Peggy

pre 15 godina

"Views like yours Dragan are beneath contempt. Go and tell the relatives who know that Milanovic was guilty for deliberately letting their loved ones die that this pathetic Milosevic yes man should be freed."

Bgannon, how exactly is Milosevic guilty for NATO dropping bombs on Belgrade?
Please explain this one as I cannot see it.

General Lewis MacKenzie openly states that Milosevic was presented with an agreement to sign which the west knew would not be acceptable to anyone. The west needed an excuse to bomb Serbia and they looked for any excuse even staged "Racak massacre" gave them an excuse.

The relatives of the dead should direct their anger at NATO and the US for this crime.

I can't believe that you actually blame the victim here for getting bombed.

bganon

pre 15 godina

'So you are blaming the RTS chief instead of blaming Wesley Clark and the perpetrators of this war crime?? '

No, I am blaming NATO for comitting a war crime and Milanovic for comitting a crime and a moral crime of knowingly allowing civilians to die.

You are wrong about me and what you think is a 'minority' of Serbs that condemn NATO crimes and certain activities undertaken by the Serbian side. Its a majority of people who share my views and a minority of spiteful radical types, who are unable to look at their own actions.

Serbia has shown that it will punish crimes committed by Serbs whether you like it or not. That is because some people here believe that this society should be run on the basis of rule of law and that one cannot be excused by the primative 'but I'm Serb' excuse.

My advice to you is to abide by universal principles and to stop pretending to yourself that you are some kind of eternal victim by association. The families of those killed were the victims of NATO action and the criminal act of Milanovic and Milosevic.

Have some respect for those victims instead of trying to make a political point out of things all the time.

'Bgannon, how exactly is Milosevic guilty for NATO dropping bombs on Belgrade?
Please explain this one as I cannot see it. '

No wonder you can't see it Peggy because I didn't say it. I don't think its for you to say who the victims should blame or not. They know better than you do who was to blame.

'I can't believe that you actually blame the victim here for getting bombed.'

Thats because I don't. The victims were those that perished in the RTS building and it appears you are the one blaming them for being angry with Milanovic.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 15 godina

Dobrica Cosic once described the relationship as that of Cain and Abel. Until truth and reconcilliation happens there will never be peace. The Croatians still have to answer for WW2 genocide, as well as for their part in the wars that tore up Jugoslavija.

Eltharion

pre 15 godina

Good neighbourly relations are a condition for all countries willing to join the EU, not only Serbia. This means that Croatia too have to make efforts in settle down its disputes with its neighbours if it wants to join the EU.