“Jeremić under fire from EU”

Good! Someone needs to light a fire under the dormant complacent EU-rocrats.

And his comment about Britain is certainly right.

I hate this attitude that 'less powerful' EU nations are supposed to sit back and just behave. Why should they? Especially when they're dealing with protecting their sovereign territory.

I don't know how Tadic or Jeremic manage to visit all of these 'dignitraies' in various countries and frequently hear smug, arrogant and probably offensive nonsense spouted by various people who know nothing about the sitiation at all. Or care.

Hats off to anyone who could keep their patience in that situation.

Mr. Jeremic- I would not be too concerned about what other countries are saying about your comments. You need to be most concerned about what is good for the Serbian nation who you represent to the world. Serbia has been pushed around and manipulated so often and it is refreshing to see a Serb politician who will stand up to these foreign "interests" for the sake of Serbia. Believe me, the EU and the West are driving hard to get Serbia "under their control"- why do you think that their "timetable" for Serbia is being rushed so fast? Serbia MUST do what is good for Serbia- no matter how long it takes. It is easier now to make your "stand"- where they need you more than you need them. Afterwards I'm afraid, you will need them more than they will need you.

I can understand Mr. Jeremić. He could act more diplomatic, but it is very frustrating to deal with idiots. And OMG, they are!

Interesting detail:

"Hungary stated that while it would do its utmost to help Serbia get on the Schengen white list for visa-free travel and become a candidate for EU membership, but that Jeremić’s threats had to stop."

A perfect example, "enemies" within EU tend to support their former "enemies". Unfortunately, Serbs/Albanians do not need enemies because they have "friends" like German officials who obstruct everything regarding the visa regime.

Notice how the accusations are extremely vague? “outbursts”, “threats” etc?

Vuk is very good and effective at explaining the Serbian position in a rational manner, unlike the Milosevic regime. That’s why they don’t like him.

It's absolutely refreshing to see the young Serban minister defend his country's views in such a diplomatic manner! If EU diplomates don't like him now, what are they gonna say when he becomes the neext PM?!

Stick to your guns Mr Jeremic. Here in Ireland we have also been the target of torrents of abuse from the Eurocrats since we rejected the Lisbon Treaty.

Anyway, who are these "officials"? It is clear to me that they are not representing the views of their own citizens.

Vuk is moderate, educated, intelligent, young and high-class personality. Further, he is a nephew of famous Hamdija Pozderac. It is normal that people like him cause a lot of envy. Serbia is so happy to have him as our minister.

yeah, Jeremic can dim a bit his statements that's all. Serbs trust him. His heart is in the right place and he is more than capable for the job.
Some of the complaints quoted in the article are good willed and some are not. He cannot be blamed for pursuing interest of Serbia (suing Croatia is 100% justifiable), only thing he needs to do is to stop verbal threatening (if he is doing so, honestly I haven't noticed).
On the other hand, speaking truth can hurt feelings and as we all know politics and truth aren't sisters.
As he is very young he is probably best described as 'unpolished diamond'.
So Vuk, in order to have a maximum effect you'll have to learn better how to put things in silk gloves.

The Balkan's problem child represented by one that as a spoiled child. Jeremic, they told you not to go to ICJ. Now you upset all your neighbors, throw out ambassadors, sue Croatia for NO reason. You don't listen. Go ask Russia now for more money. Bite the hand that feeds you, go ahead. Unless you drop the Cro lawsuit, kiss EU goodbye, the suit will be going for ages, Croatia gets in EU in 2011

This article speaks to the control and influence that the EU has over the DS abomination Government. Not only did the EU buy a Serbian government that would be friendly to them, they are now in a position to dictate not only the words of but the tone that their very own vassals take.

This is the indignity of subjugating an entire nation to the whims of the EU.

How can we expect to be an EU member if we do not expect to be respected or treated as equals?

A stick and a carrot is not a relationship- it is a cruel and antiquated way to treat donkeys, and it is a racist way to treat a nation.

Serbia needs a new government that will not tolerate this. Serbia should go towards the EU with open arms, but NOT ON BENDED KNEE.

Interestingly, not a single one of the anonymous diplomats said Jeremic was wrong about the EU's constantly moving targets.

there is a saying that says YOU ARE HURT IF YOU ARE GUILTY. i think this applies to the critics of jeremic. they are guilty of condoning illegal action on kosovo independence and they can not take the bitterness of the guilt feeling inside.

I agree 100% with Kates’s comment. However, one thing that Jeremic should understand is that, if you decide to fight the awesome than make sure you are of the same calibre .i.e. only a heavy category boxer of Tyson calibre goes to fight Tyson in the ring, not some lightweight clown who believes in luck and tries to be famous by sheer luck.

Jeremic represent still a poor country, with a horrible image in the world, with a horrible human rights record, country that harours war criminals, country that burned embassys 7 months ago ....

yes as i told many times, there is no simpathy for him abroad....little Vuk has a great ego..better for Serbia find another FM...

I have always said that VJ is going to get serbia into trouble and this has turned out to be the case.

Kate; i am sure VJ has your attitude and my only response to you would be, with people like VJ and you who really does not belong to the democratic party and his heart lies with extremist. Its people like VJ who have put Serbia in this position, Serbia with its capacity should have been in the EU along with Yugoslavia in the 1990 but no better start a nationalist war to benefit about 5% of the people of Serbia, rather then joint the EU that will benefit all the people of the region. Being nostalgic about these things does not help anyone but i can almost guarantee all you tuned in that the Republic of Kosova will join the EU before the Serbia.

Smells like someone is cooking something up here. If they wanted Jeremić to fall into line then I'm sure they could do it much more discretely. I wonder what they have planned just around the corner?

I do believe we Serbians are more like David against Goliath but I don't believe this so-called government is of the same calibre. Those sell-outs are happy to collude with the dictators for some tea with carrots served on the side.

So why the big fuss when all they need to do is pull a string or two? Sorry, but I don't believe Jeremić is the rebel type.

well i must say i was a bit scared, i thought Jeremic fooled the west by giving a portrait of a victimised serbia and hurt soul cos it "lost" kosovo therefore give us more sypathy and quick access to EU, by bringing the kosovo issue everywhere he goes serbia is trying to get into EU, just a thought for those who live in kosovo that day serbia gets close to EU will dumb all the serbs in kosovo and would not give adamn about them anymore, they got what they wanted, but hopefully croatia goes in first and i it will make serbia sweat a little bit to join the block plus pay a few bucks for the damages done in the 90's.

To those k-serbs you will come back to us again, cos you have no where to go, those who had homes in serbia already left and will never come back where you what i call the real kosovo serbs who have been in kosovo for long time you'll still be in kosovo.

We already see the signs of shifting the power from Republicans to Democrats in US.

Republicans keep the ball in middle East and with oil rich countries to protect Israel and oil. (old Bush and small funny young cowboy-can screw everything and bring superpower to its knees - and lower- still not over yet).

Obama-democrats will continue where Cliton stopped, will be focused again on Balkans - they think that is not over yet and try to do more demage on Serbia and probbably find some more material to start new conflict - Bosnia, Kosovo or even Croatia again.

What do you think all of the sudden Croatia after 16 years sue Serbia now (hint sign from new democratic lobby coming to Washington).

They will try to impose full democracy in Balkans(oj - again war and more bombs)but will give some concessions to muslims - again in Bosnia and in Serbia-Kosovo.

I don't know how will Vuk stand to the challange but I am sure that will be more and more provocations and more ultimatums to Serbia.

But, I agree with "tesla" - Serbia already win half the way - Kosovo got more than autonomy but less and never will get independance.(see the preassure to Thaci,talks with Belgrade, UN - even those 2.5M people were protesting last night - because they no that is NO real independance and probably never will be untill compromise with Serbia).

Marko, I do suspect they are cooking something up. I remember reading an article where Jeremić apparently stated that they needed to figure out a way to sweeten up the bitter pill of Kosovo independence.

Now that has stuck and what I can see now is the acceptance of this EU mission as the first sign. We all know the position of the powers within the EU and what the acceptance of that mission really means but this has been spun in a way where Jeremić looks like a true Serbian patriot fighting for Serbia and has put conditions on the mission that not even the Albanians want..... so......it seems Serbians now accept this mission where the majority of its members treat Kosovo as an independent nation. It is also replacing a UN mission where the overwhelming majority of members support Serbia. Why oh Why? What is the purpose of having a UN mission replaced with an EU mission if not to progress the independence drive?

And so many Serbians are now supporting that only because the US and Albanians seem opposed to it. But that is where the trap lies as far as I'm concerned. That bitter pill of Kosovo independence has been sweetened up enough for many Serbians to swallow.

It may not be a popular opinion but that is the way I feel.

zorank@email.com

BTW, are you Marko and marko? I do wonder whether they are the same person.

oh they did not...
How can they ....
I thought Vuk was ... Vuk afterall what did they expect!!!

Don't you know: the EU (and the NWO) doesn't take any prisoners. Total submission, that's what they want. Why? Because Serbia had the nerve to stand up to them. The EU won't stop until the last private soldier that served in the Serb army is in The Hague. You will have to recognize Kosovo and like doing it. The same European countries that were detrimental in the breakup of Yugoslavia (Germany, UK) now tell you you can't protest. You have to bend over and take it. And no, I'm not a radical Serb but a EU citizen.

it's not just individual politicians that represent a "problem" for the eu bureaucrats. if an entire nation votes the wrong way then even the people are a "problem". like when ireland voted against the lisbon treaty (something for which i am actually greatful to the irish just as i am greatful to the french for previously rejecting the eu constitution). i understand that the balkans is a poor region and that most people there see the eu membership as a solution to their problems, but the way some pro-eu posters here idealise this very undemocratic organisation is plain annoying to me.

Serbia needs to be worried about Obama. Joe Biden is a lobbyist for the Albanians, He's got Madeline Albright on board and you all know what that leads to. Hillary Clinton as foreign secretary, the wife of the guy that bombed you. I'm sure she wants some revenge for the sniper fire that she faced when she visited Bosnia.....
Just like in the 90s, they will want to teach the EU a lesson about who is the boss on the Balkans and its oil supply lines.

If you take Vuk out of the context of the regime and mythology he is representing, I am sure he is a well educated and intelligent civil servant. His problem(s) is that he shut comments before considering consequences. This is a fatal error of a diplomat. His other problem is that he has a EU mask but a Russian mentality. The third problem of Vuk, is that he can not see that his personality is misused by his president. It is the first case in the world that a FM shut comments without consulting the president and the Prime Minister. Here is something wrong with his position. And he will be sacrificed by the same guys who elected him

The truth hurts. The EU have never listened to the Serb view, and when they hear it they moan. I didn't know intl diplomacy was a poularity contest. Do what is right for Serbia!

Little wonder they see Jeremic as a threat, he is intelligent, articulate and above all is standing up for his country. His British counterpart was not properly briefed about where he was hence the gaff at the conference in Belgrade "I come here as a great friend of Kosovo" Not the sharpest tool in the box obviously. Serbia should certainly not play the obedient child in order to join the EU- Poland has been a member state for years but has obviously not prospered as a result as there are officially 700,000 Poles living in the Uk most of them doing jobs the British would turn their noses at.

my dear friends and those who hate serbia ,i would like you to understand something ,serbia has been in europe for a [long time ]
we do not need british or german or any bodys permition to be serbs of europe ,i hope this is clear to all

Zk,

I agree that the DS is serving the proverbial kool-aid to the unsuspecting masses, but I fear many DS supporters want to be lied to and assuage their guilt in surrendering the nation.

Zk that is a very interesting post, and I must admit that you may be right.

I still tend to believe that this is a humiliation regardless of what the intentions are- the depth of their control of Belgrade boggles the mind

LIKE I said previously, when one party threatens violence that party just lost in negotiations, or the war.

Vuk should read sun tze to do neotiations/war to win, not lose. :)

Too bad his govt/job won't last much longer.

The Balkan's problem child represented by one that as a spoiled child. Jeremic, they told you not to go to ICJ. Now you upset all your neighbors, throw out ambassadors, sue Croatia for NO reason. You don't listen. Go ask Russia now for more money. Bite the hand that feeds you, go ahead. Unless you drop the Cro lawsuit, kiss EU goodbye, the suit will be going for ages, Croatia gets in EU in 2011

I agree 100% with Kates’s comment. However, one thing that Jeremic should understand is that, if you decide to fight the awesome than make sure you are of the same calibre .i.e. only a heavy category boxer of Tyson calibre goes to fight Tyson in the ring, not some lightweight clown who believes in luck and tries to be famous by sheer luck.

Jeremic represent still a poor country, with a horrible image in the world, with a horrible human rights record, country that harours war criminals, country that burned embassys 7 months ago ....

yes as i told many times, there is no simpathy for him abroad....little Vuk has a great ego..better for Serbia find another FM...

Good! Someone needs to light a fire under the dormant complacent EU-rocrats.

And his comment about Britain is certainly right.

I hate this attitude that 'less powerful' EU nations are supposed to sit back and just behave. Why should they? Especially when they're dealing with protecting their sovereign territory.

I don't know how Tadic or Jeremic manage to visit all of these 'dignitraies' in various countries and frequently hear smug, arrogant and probably offensive nonsense spouted by various people who know nothing about the sitiation at all. Or care.

Hats off to anyone who could keep their patience in that situation.

I have always said that VJ is going to get serbia into trouble and this has turned out to be the case.

Kate; i am sure VJ has your attitude and my only response to you would be, with people like VJ and you who really does not belong to the democratic party and his heart lies with extremist. Its people like VJ who have put Serbia in this position, Serbia with its capacity should have been in the EU along with Yugoslavia in the 1990 but no better start a nationalist war to benefit about 5% of the people of Serbia, rather then joint the EU that will benefit all the people of the region. Being nostalgic about these things does not help anyone but i can almost guarantee all you tuned in that the Republic of Kosova will join the EU before the Serbia.

well i must say i was a bit scared, i thought Jeremic fooled the west by giving a portrait of a victimised serbia and hurt soul cos it "lost" kosovo therefore give us more sypathy and quick access to EU, by bringing the kosovo issue everywhere he goes serbia is trying to get into EU, just a thought for those who live in kosovo that day serbia gets close to EU will dumb all the serbs in kosovo and would not give adamn about them anymore, they got what they wanted, but hopefully croatia goes in first and i it will make serbia sweat a little bit to join the block plus pay a few bucks for the damages done in the 90's.

To those k-serbs you will come back to us again, cos you have no where to go, those who had homes in serbia already left and will never come back where you what i call the real kosovo serbs who have been in kosovo for long time you'll still be in kosovo.

This article speaks to the control and influence that the EU has over the DS abomination Government. Not only did the EU buy a Serbian government that would be friendly to them, they are now in a position to dictate not only the words of but the tone that their very own vassals take.

This is the indignity of subjugating an entire nation to the whims of the EU.

How can we expect to be an EU member if we do not expect to be respected or treated as equals?

A stick and a carrot is not a relationship- it is a cruel and antiquated way to treat donkeys, and it is a racist way to treat a nation.

Serbia needs a new government that will not tolerate this. Serbia should go towards the EU with open arms, but NOT ON BENDED KNEE.

Smells like someone is cooking something up here. If they wanted Jeremić to fall into line then I'm sure they could do it much more discretely. I wonder what they have planned just around the corner?

I do believe we Serbians are more like David against Goliath but I don't believe this so-called government is of the same calibre. Those sell-outs are happy to collude with the dictators for some tea with carrots served on the side.

So why the big fuss when all they need to do is pull a string or two? Sorry, but I don't believe Jeremić is the rebel type.

Mr. Jeremic- I would not be too concerned about what other countries are saying about your comments. You need to be most concerned about what is good for the Serbian nation who you represent to the world. Serbia has been pushed around and manipulated so often and it is refreshing to see a Serb politician who will stand up to these foreign "interests" for the sake of Serbia. Believe me, the EU and the West are driving hard to get Serbia "under their control"- why do you think that their "timetable" for Serbia is being rushed so fast? Serbia MUST do what is good for Serbia- no matter how long it takes. It is easier now to make your "stand"- where they need you more than you need them. Afterwards I'm afraid, you will need them more than they will need you.

I can understand Mr. Jeremić. He could act more diplomatic, but it is very frustrating to deal with idiots. And OMG, they are!

Interesting detail:

"Hungary stated that while it would do its utmost to help Serbia get on the Schengen white list for visa-free travel and become a candidate for EU membership, but that Jeremić’s threats had to stop."

A perfect example, "enemies" within EU tend to support their former "enemies". Unfortunately, Serbs/Albanians do not need enemies because they have "friends" like German officials who obstruct everything regarding the visa regime.

Zk that is a very interesting post, and I must admit that you may be right.

I still tend to believe that this is a humiliation regardless of what the intentions are- the depth of their control of Belgrade boggles the mind

LIKE I said previously, when one party threatens violence that party just lost in negotiations, or the war.

Vuk should read sun tze to do neotiations/war to win, not lose. :)

Too bad his govt/job won't last much longer.

Don't you know: the EU (and the NWO) doesn't take any prisoners. Total submission, that's what they want. Why? Because Serbia had the nerve to stand up to them. The EU won't stop until the last private soldier that served in the Serb army is in The Hague. You will have to recognize Kosovo and like doing it. The same European countries that were detrimental in the breakup of Yugoslavia (Germany, UK) now tell you you can't protest. You have to bend over and take it. And no, I'm not a radical Serb but a EU citizen.

We already see the signs of shifting the power from Republicans to Democrats in US.

Republicans keep the ball in middle East and with oil rich countries to protect Israel and oil. (old Bush and small funny young cowboy-can screw everything and bring superpower to its knees - and lower- still not over yet).

Obama-democrats will continue where Cliton stopped, will be focused again on Balkans - they think that is not over yet and try to do more demage on Serbia and probbably find some more material to start new conflict - Bosnia, Kosovo or even Croatia again.

What do you think all of the sudden Croatia after 16 years sue Serbia now (hint sign from new democratic lobby coming to Washington).

They will try to impose full democracy in Balkans(oj - again war and more bombs)but will give some concessions to muslims - again in Bosnia and in Serbia-Kosovo.

I don't know how will Vuk stand to the challange but I am sure that will be more and more provocations and more ultimatums to Serbia.

But, I agree with "tesla" - Serbia already win half the way - Kosovo got more than autonomy but less and never will get independance.(see the preassure to Thaci,talks with Belgrade, UN - even those 2.5M people were protesting last night - because they no that is NO real independance and probably never will be untill compromise with Serbia).

Serbia needs to be worried about Obama. Joe Biden is a lobbyist for the Albanians, He's got Madeline Albright on board and you all know what that leads to. Hillary Clinton as foreign secretary, the wife of the guy that bombed you. I'm sure she wants some revenge for the sniper fire that she faced when she visited Bosnia.....
Just like in the 90s, they will want to teach the EU a lesson about who is the boss on the Balkans and its oil supply lines.

Marko, I do suspect they are cooking something up. I remember reading an article where Jeremić apparently stated that they needed to figure out a way to sweeten up the bitter pill of Kosovo independence.

Now that has stuck and what I can see now is the acceptance of this EU mission as the first sign. We all know the position of the powers within the EU and what the acceptance of that mission really means but this has been spun in a way where Jeremić looks like a true Serbian patriot fighting for Serbia and has put conditions on the mission that not even the Albanians want..... so......it seems Serbians now accept this mission where the majority of its members treat Kosovo as an independent nation. It is also replacing a UN mission where the overwhelming majority of members support Serbia. Why oh Why? What is the purpose of having a UN mission replaced with an EU mission if not to progress the independence drive?

And so many Serbians are now supporting that only because the US and Albanians seem opposed to it. But that is where the trap lies as far as I'm concerned. That bitter pill of Kosovo independence has been sweetened up enough for many Serbians to swallow.

It may not be a popular opinion but that is the way I feel.

zorank@email.com

BTW, are you Marko and marko? I do wonder whether they are the same person.

Stick to your guns Mr Jeremic. Here in Ireland we have also been the target of torrents of abuse from the Eurocrats since we rejected the Lisbon Treaty.

Anyway, who are these "officials"? It is clear to me that they are not representing the views of their own citizens.

Zk,

I agree that the DS is serving the proverbial kool-aid to the unsuspecting masses, but I fear many DS supporters want to be lied to and assuage their guilt in surrendering the nation.

If you take Vuk out of the context of the regime and mythology he is representing, I am sure he is a well educated and intelligent civil servant. His problem(s) is that he shut comments before considering consequences. This is a fatal error of a diplomat. His other problem is that he has a EU mask but a Russian mentality. The third problem of Vuk, is that he can not see that his personality is misused by his president. It is the first case in the world that a FM shut comments without consulting the president and the Prime Minister. Here is something wrong with his position. And he will be sacrificed by the same guys who elected him

oh they did not...
How can they ....
I thought Vuk was ... Vuk afterall what did they expect!!!

Notice how the accusations are extremely vague? “outbursts”, “threats” etc?

Vuk is very good and effective at explaining the Serbian position in a rational manner, unlike the Milosevic regime. That’s why they don’t like him.

Vuk is moderate, educated, intelligent, young and high-class personality. Further, he is a nephew of famous Hamdija Pozderac. It is normal that people like him cause a lot of envy. Serbia is so happy to have him as our minister.

there is a saying that says YOU ARE HURT IF YOU ARE GUILTY. i think this applies to the critics of jeremic. they are guilty of condoning illegal action on kosovo independence and they can not take the bitterness of the guilt feeling inside.

yeah, Jeremic can dim a bit his statements that's all. Serbs trust him. His heart is in the right place and he is more than capable for the job.
Some of the complaints quoted in the article are good willed and some are not. He cannot be blamed for pursuing interest of Serbia (suing Croatia is 100% justifiable), only thing he needs to do is to stop verbal threatening (if he is doing so, honestly I haven't noticed).
On the other hand, speaking truth can hurt feelings and as we all know politics and truth aren't sisters.
As he is very young he is probably best described as 'unpolished diamond'.
So Vuk, in order to have a maximum effect you'll have to learn better how to put things in silk gloves.

Interestingly, not a single one of the anonymous diplomats said Jeremic was wrong about the EU's constantly moving targets.

it's not just individual politicians that represent a "problem" for the eu bureaucrats. if an entire nation votes the wrong way then even the people are a "problem". like when ireland voted against the lisbon treaty (something for which i am actually greatful to the irish just as i am greatful to the french for previously rejecting the eu constitution). i understand that the balkans is a poor region and that most people there see the eu membership as a solution to their problems, but the way some pro-eu posters here idealise this very undemocratic organisation is plain annoying to me.

It's absolutely refreshing to see the young Serban minister defend his country's views in such a diplomatic manner! If EU diplomates don't like him now, what are they gonna say when he becomes the neext PM?!

my dear friends and those who hate serbia ,i would like you to understand something ,serbia has been in europe for a [long time ]
we do not need british or german or any bodys permition to be serbs of europe ,i hope this is clear to all

The truth hurts. The EU have never listened to the Serb view, and when they hear it they moan. I didn't know intl diplomacy was a poularity contest. Do what is right for Serbia!

Little wonder they see Jeremic as a threat, he is intelligent, articulate and above all is standing up for his country. His British counterpart was not properly briefed about where he was hence the gaff at the conference in Belgrade "I come here as a great friend of Kosovo" Not the sharpest tool in the box obviously. Serbia should certainly not play the obedient child in order to join the EU- Poland has been a member state for years but has obviously not prospered as a result as there are officially 700,000 Poles living in the Uk most of them doing jobs the British would turn their noses at.