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Tuesday, 04.11.2008.

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Thaci wants unconditional EULEX deployment

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci says that he will not let the EU mission’s deployment in northern Kosovo be subject to any conditions.

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gg

pre 15 godina

does blero mean tiny man? if i were in your position, making grand statements where albianians were treated as less than human while in/under serbia, then i would (if i were in his position) be the bigger man and show these people how one should behave. all i;ve seen from yourself and the news about kosovo is that the k-albanians are acting in step with what they claim to be acting against. the hypocracy is so thick i can hardly see the black cloud over the balkans.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Italy, you are absolutely wrong. The last thing we would hate is the Serbia nation.
(Blero, 5 November 2008 02:01)

a terror inflicting nation as Serbia was (and is).
(Blero, 6 November 2008 01:09)

no comment.

HE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH

pre 15 godina

Do you guys and gals have anything else better to do than to comment on these issues concerning Kosovo and Serbia. What is going to happen is going to happen. There has been deals made that we are not privy to and what the EU has decided is going to be so why jump up and down, whine, cry and complain. Move on folks with your lives and make the place better. Offer solutions instead of complaints.

Blero

pre 15 godina

(LMN II, USA, 5 November 2008 22:28)

LMN, though you replied to the art of the comment I put forward for “italy” you proved my point.
It is very easy judging from the distance as you are doing.
In addition to doing that, you go even further on accusing us for out breeding the “natives”.
Firstly LMN that is a very racist comment and secondly who do you refer to when you say natives?
Surely you do not mean Serbs!
It seems that you are so deep in the “Kosovo has always been Serbian” brainwashed environment that “allows” you putting comments like that.
Read about the pre-slavic Balkans LMN and you will see who the natives are.
I am not judging you LMN, it is you right to believe whatever you want.
But please just because you lived in Montenegro for a year and have been in Belgrade 4 or 5 times, do not try to impose your opinion on people that have lived there for centuries (I count my family as one of them).
The problems in Kosovo did not start at the time you were in Montenegro and in Belgrade, they did in 1912.
You referred to the gunned Serb children near Gorazdevac.
Every Albanian that is not mentally sick has condemned the act.
That is the act of an animal and not an act of a human.
We know what is to be terrorised, we have been there until 1999. We will not be something we always hated, we will not be a terror inflicting nation as Serbia was (and is).
LMN, you refer to the need for NATO protection. I can assure you that nobody will harm Serbs in Kosovo.
You se LMN, up to 1999 we had Serb tanks in Kosovo villages, not to protect us but to terrorise us.
Finally LMN, during your short encounter with the Balkans issues have you ever judged the pre 1999 terror inflicted by Serb forces (army, police and paramitaries)?
Have you ever judged the massacres and crimes committed by Serbs?
Or, did your lecturers decided to skip that infamous era.

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

You sir have never lived in Kosovo, I can see that. I only wished you did. You would see first hand the rights we had in Ex-Yu and under Serbian rule.

Granted I have never lived in Kosovo, but I have lived in neighboring Montenegro. I spent over a year in Montenegro and even married a lovely and brilliant woman from Podgorica. I have visited Belgrade at least 4 or 5 times and I am still appalled at the bombed out buildings that remain there as an ugly reminder of the illegal attack NATO did. I was living there when the March 2004 riots took place and I was there when the Serb children I mentioned before were gunned down. I have seen how the ethnic Albanians work. First they move into a area and out breed the natives, then they demand their own schools & institutions, if those demands are not met they begin to issue threats until they get their way, they then demand broader and broader autonomy until they are essentially a state within a state. I know about the problems Macedonia has had with their ethnic Albanian population and while I was in Montenegro I heard about ethnic Albanian demands for their own institutions in Tuzi (the right to be autonomous from Podgorica, the right to their own schools and universities in their own language and so on and so forth).

Also, the one thing that surprised me more than anything was the hospitality of the Serbian people in both Montengro and Serbia to myself despite what my country and it's allies perpetrated on them. I know many still harbor resentments towards my country, I can't blame them for that, but I have always made it known, whenever possible, that the actions of my government, at times, are independent of the American people's will.

I was totally against my country getting involved in what was essentially a civil war and I was not the only one. Clinton bypassed Congress, he bypassed the UN and with western Europe's consent used NATO to bomb Serbia in order to take attention away from his little tryst with Monica Lewinski. Over 65% of Americans were against getting involved in the Balkans, but we were not listened to, we were fed lie after lie and unfortunately more than a few were taken in by the biased media at the time which was pretty much in cahoots with the government, how sad.

I am still ashamed of the fact that my govt, both Democrat and Republican, have sided with the Nazi sympathizers of WWII (Ustache Croats, Handzar Bosnian muslims, Skanderbeg Albanians), against the one country that was aligned with the allies in both world wars (Serbia). Not my country's finest moment I must admit.

blero

pre 15 godina

(italy, 5 November 2008 14:49)
You sir have never lived in Kosovo, I can see that. I only wished you did. You would see first hand the rights we had in Ex-Yu and under Serbian rule.

(LMN II, USA, 5 November 2008 14:41)

As per my last comment: You can come to Kosovo and see that for yourself instead of judging from the distance.
Please do that and then respond to my comment.

(Peggy, 5 November 2008 02:21)

Peggy,
Hopefully, there will come the day that Serbian politicians will stop using Kosovo Serbs for their political gains.
The day that this happens, the distrust will disappear. We will see.

italy

pre 15 godina

Blero,
You cannot come to me to tell such exaggerations. In ex-Yugoslavia Albanians had the same rights, thus also the responsabilities, as other nations. You pretended more rights, but responsabilites not. Wishing you all the best in your new born country, I would invite you and your nation to ponder about the national and individual responsabilities, because the problem you had with Serbian governemnt, which means Serbs, yesterday, will repeat with EU, Americans, or Martians tomorrow.

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

And MikeC, it is an utter lie that they need NATO protection.
They can go freely anywhere they want (unlike Albanians that cannot go and refurbish their destroyed homes in the north part of Mitrovica).

You have got to be kidding, surely you must be joking with that ridiculous comment. How many times have we read on here and other Balkan publications the problems Kosovo's Serbs have when it comes to freedom of movement and their feelings of insecurity. March 2004 showed what can happen, even when the incident that sparked the riots was a total LIE. I have seen videos of that ugly time. I have seen pictures of KFOR troops protecting Serbian Orthodox churches. I have seen pictures of KFOR escorting Serbs to get provisions or to visit their ancestor's graves. How do you expect the Serbs to feel when they don't receive justice for crimes commited against them...when will the Albanian authorities catch the criminals who machine gunned five Serb children while they were swimming in a river near Gorazdevac? Meanwhile this YouTube video shows the 24 hr protection needed for the enclave...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRIg1wdr79w

So, sir, you need to get your facts straight before writing such rubbish. The only Serbs that aren't in constant fear for their lives are the ones in Northerm Mitrovica and that's because they have strength in numbers so they can watch each others backs. I guess that burns up many of the ethnic Albanian posters on here, that they haven't been able to place all minorities under their Nazi sympathizing boots (Skanderbeg ring a bell). This is not a true multi-ethnic "state" and it never will be (at least in the traditional sense), ever, even EULEX will not be able to make a difference no matter where they are deployed.

Srboslav

pre 15 godina

Thaci belongs in jail!
(Danny, 4 November 2008 19:48)

Yes he certainly does. It really amazes me why Serbia havent filed an arrest warrant with interpool for this police murderer. We must not forget the people Thaci the criminal and his men murdered back in -94

lowe

pre 15 godina

"Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci says that he will not let the EU mission’s deployment in northern Kosovo be subject to any conditions."

Thaci is daydreaming. As if he is in any position to tell the EU whether there will be conditions attached to north Kosovo. Unless he wants to do the suicidal and lose EU support altogether!

The EU is already negotiating with Belgrade and Moscow in order to get UNSC approval for Eulex. Whether Thaci likes it or not, the stark truth is that it is the West and not Pristina that calls the shots in south Kosovo now.

Blero

pre 15 godina

Why do you guys hate so much Serbs?
(italy, 4 November 2008 21:29)

Italy, you are absolutely wrong. The last thing we would hate is the Serbia nation.
We do however hate and will not stop hating is the Serbian governments attitude towards us.
This has been the case since 1912.
Not a single Serbian leader has ever taken a single step to treat Albanians as human and equal.
Every single Serbian Leader has always preached and used torture army and terror against Albanians in Kosovo.
If you wanted to se apartheid in full swing you did not have to go to South Africa. All you had to do is to come to Kosovo and see the superior Serbian race treat Albanians as third class nation.
So yes Italy, we do hate Serbian attitude with all our hearts.
We will hate that until the day somebody in the Serbian government wakes up and ask for forgiveness.
We will hate that until the day that this attitude of the Serbian government changes.



MikeC,

Serbs in Kosovo have every right guarantied by the Kosovo constitution.
And MikeC, it is an utter lie that they need NATO protection.
They can go freely anywhere they want (unlike Albanians that cannot go and refurbish their destroyed homes in the north part of Mitrovica).
If you don’t believe come to Kosovo and see it for yourself.
Also MikeC, if Albanians in Presevo attempt to cause problems that MUP backed groups in north of Kosovo are doing you would have seen actions taken by Serbian government similar to those that Serbia took in Kosovo in pre 1999 era.
Please MikeC do not try to convince us that the Serbian democracy exists.
We have experienced that democracy in action up to 1999.
We still bare the scars.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Blero (14) wrote.

"This distrust that Kosovo Serbs have is inflicted by the Serbian propaganda".

Really!!. And here I am thinking it was because of all those churhces and monasteries being burned, cemeteries being destroyed and murdered Serbs which brought all this distrust.

So how exactly does propaganda become tangable and commits all these crimes?

It's about time you guys stopped blaming Serbs for everything and took ownership of the situation there. It's so easy to blame but very hard to look at yourself and see your role in the situation.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

(Blero)

How can you honestly say that serbs in Kosovo have rights? Perhaps on paper but not in practice. Maybe serbs and albanians can talk peace once serbs in Kosovo don't need NATO protection 24 hour a day. Maybe there can be peace when serbian churches and monasteries are not surrounded by barbed wire to protect them from being burned to the ground by albanians. Do albanians in Presevo need NATO protection? Albanians are such hypocrites. You don't want to be controlled by serbs and serbs in Mitrovica don't want to be controlled by you. Leave them alone!
And how can albanians demand an independent Presevo when they are barely a majority?

Adrian Gashi

pre 15 godina

Sorry to burst the bubble of many here, but if Thaci was irrelevant and his word didn't carry any weight, N Kosova would've been part of Serbia already. What, is Serbia not taking it because it doesn't want it, or what?
Maybe Thaci's word carries far more weight than that of all the "experts" commenting here, combined.

italy

pre 15 godina

Sorry, Miri, to tell you, but you Albanians are strange guys. Why dont you cool down with your hate of Serbs? I mean this phrase: "So does Tadic, Jeremic and Kostunica!" is a real expression of hatred. Why do you guys hate so much Serbs? I am sure you will do the same with Americans, if you do not obtain what you aspire. Thaci is a criminal, put there to sit by NATO, in order to appease agressiveness in Kosovo people and to illude you to think how the international community is siding you. But it is only a transitional gimmick. You will have to stop venerating Thacis, and stop hating Serbs. I hope Americans will teach you that.

Blero

pre 15 godina

(Peter Sudyka, 4 November 2008 20:28)

Now Peter, explain me which rights do the people in Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina have that the Serbs in Kosovo don’t?
Which rights are we advocating for Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina that we are not willing to provide to Kosovo Serbs?
Also Peter, you are absolutely wrong when you assume that we cannot do it alone.
The core purpose of EULEX is to act as the bridge until the reservations that Kosovo Serbs have diminished and are replaced by a mutual trust.
This distrust that Kosovo Serbs have is inflicted by the Serbian propaganda.
Finally Peter, it is not Thaci that is trying to force anything upon anybody.
It is Serbian government that is trying to keep Kosovo in limbo.
It is Serbian government that has, is and will be using Kosovo Serbs for their political gains.

Big Bob

pre 15 godina

Thaci is small fish in a small pond. Maybe soon EU will have "birds and bees" talk with Thaci and finally explain to him the facts of life.

Peter Sudyka

pre 15 godina

blero

The reason I say is that this is not the first Kosovo Albanian politician who appears to want to bring the Northern part of the country to heel. Knowing that they cannot do it alone, they appear to be pushing EULEX to do so. While I can understand they want order in the country, you forever hear about Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina being allowed greater autonomy and independence as per many Albanians, while no consideration is made for the Serbs of the North. It's a sensitive region and should not be forced in any way, the EU knows this, but people like Thaci seem to want to force it, that's all I meant.

Albanes

pre 15 godina

"I really do not understand Albanian politicans. Do they really think that Mitrovica will make part of Kosovo? I mean, who would dare to put that in practice?"

The minute N Mitrovica splits, so will Presevo Valley and nearby Albanians. Who would dare to put that in practice

italy

pre 15 godina

I really do not understand Albanian politicans. Do they really think that Mitrovica will make part of Kosovo? I mean, who would dare to put that in practice?

sp

pre 15 godina

SerbAllay, maybe you should read UNSC 1244 before commenting. The whole resolution is geared toward the establishment of an autonomous govt in Kosovo.
Which means totally separate laws from that of Serbia. The only contradictory point would be the declaration of independence vs province of Serbia.

blero

pre 15 godina

I get the feeling that Thaci thinks the EU is Kosovo's personal bodyguard, or something like that.
(Peter Sudyka, 4 November 2008 14:05)

Peter, care to elaborate a bit more on how did you come to that conclusion?
I read the article and somehow could not see what you did.
Peter, EULEX will either respect the Kosovo constitution or it will not be deployed.
Kosovo constitution guaranties citizens rights (all of them).

Veki, do you actually believe that anybody is listening to Serbia?
If it was up to Serbia, there would be no EULEX, there would be no Kosovo.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Thaci is the most pathetic politician in the Balkans. He makes threats over this and that but in reality he is a puppet with no authority what so ever. He must have the easiest job in the world. He probably spends his days infront of his comupter playing Solitare while the big boys from Europe are runnig Kosovo.

veki

pre 15 godina

"...he will not let the EU mission’s deployment in northern Kosovo be subject to any conditions."

Quite redicilous statement- don't think Thaci is a player in this game.

The ball is bouncing between Belgrade and UN and thaci and ramush can only watch.

Serb Allay

pre 15 godina

Thaci!! your so called kosovo constitution is as good as "toilet paper". it has no legality to exist since resolution 1244 is still very much exist.

And EULEX cannot be deploy without serbia's permission and approval from the UNSC.

Serb Allay

pre 15 godina

Thaci!! your so called kosovo constitution is as good as "toilet paper". it has no legality to exist since resolution 1244 is still very much exist.

And EULEX cannot be deploy without serbia's permission and approval from the UNSC.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Thaci is the most pathetic politician in the Balkans. He makes threats over this and that but in reality he is a puppet with no authority what so ever. He must have the easiest job in the world. He probably spends his days infront of his comupter playing Solitare while the big boys from Europe are runnig Kosovo.

veki

pre 15 godina

"...he will not let the EU mission’s deployment in northern Kosovo be subject to any conditions."

Quite redicilous statement- don't think Thaci is a player in this game.

The ball is bouncing between Belgrade and UN and thaci and ramush can only watch.

blero

pre 15 godina

I get the feeling that Thaci thinks the EU is Kosovo's personal bodyguard, or something like that.
(Peter Sudyka, 4 November 2008 14:05)

Peter, care to elaborate a bit more on how did you come to that conclusion?
I read the article and somehow could not see what you did.
Peter, EULEX will either respect the Kosovo constitution or it will not be deployed.
Kosovo constitution guaranties citizens rights (all of them).

Veki, do you actually believe that anybody is listening to Serbia?
If it was up to Serbia, there would be no EULEX, there would be no Kosovo.

italy

pre 15 godina

I really do not understand Albanian politicans. Do they really think that Mitrovica will make part of Kosovo? I mean, who would dare to put that in practice?

Blero

pre 15 godina

(Peter Sudyka, 4 November 2008 20:28)

Now Peter, explain me which rights do the people in Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina have that the Serbs in Kosovo don’t?
Which rights are we advocating for Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina that we are not willing to provide to Kosovo Serbs?
Also Peter, you are absolutely wrong when you assume that we cannot do it alone.
The core purpose of EULEX is to act as the bridge until the reservations that Kosovo Serbs have diminished and are replaced by a mutual trust.
This distrust that Kosovo Serbs have is inflicted by the Serbian propaganda.
Finally Peter, it is not Thaci that is trying to force anything upon anybody.
It is Serbian government that is trying to keep Kosovo in limbo.
It is Serbian government that has, is and will be using Kosovo Serbs for their political gains.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

(Blero)

How can you honestly say that serbs in Kosovo have rights? Perhaps on paper but not in practice. Maybe serbs and albanians can talk peace once serbs in Kosovo don't need NATO protection 24 hour a day. Maybe there can be peace when serbian churches and monasteries are not surrounded by barbed wire to protect them from being burned to the ground by albanians. Do albanians in Presevo need NATO protection? Albanians are such hypocrites. You don't want to be controlled by serbs and serbs in Mitrovica don't want to be controlled by you. Leave them alone!
And how can albanians demand an independent Presevo when they are barely a majority?

italy

pre 15 godina

Sorry, Miri, to tell you, but you Albanians are strange guys. Why dont you cool down with your hate of Serbs? I mean this phrase: "So does Tadic, Jeremic and Kostunica!" is a real expression of hatred. Why do you guys hate so much Serbs? I am sure you will do the same with Americans, if you do not obtain what you aspire. Thaci is a criminal, put there to sit by NATO, in order to appease agressiveness in Kosovo people and to illude you to think how the international community is siding you. But it is only a transitional gimmick. You will have to stop venerating Thacis, and stop hating Serbs. I hope Americans will teach you that.

Albanes

pre 15 godina

"I really do not understand Albanian politicans. Do they really think that Mitrovica will make part of Kosovo? I mean, who would dare to put that in practice?"

The minute N Mitrovica splits, so will Presevo Valley and nearby Albanians. Who would dare to put that in practice

Peter Sudyka

pre 15 godina

blero

The reason I say is that this is not the first Kosovo Albanian politician who appears to want to bring the Northern part of the country to heel. Knowing that they cannot do it alone, they appear to be pushing EULEX to do so. While I can understand they want order in the country, you forever hear about Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina being allowed greater autonomy and independence as per many Albanians, while no consideration is made for the Serbs of the North. It's a sensitive region and should not be forced in any way, the EU knows this, but people like Thaci seem to want to force it, that's all I meant.

Blero

pre 15 godina

(LMN II, USA, 5 November 2008 22:28)

LMN, though you replied to the art of the comment I put forward for “italy” you proved my point.
It is very easy judging from the distance as you are doing.
In addition to doing that, you go even further on accusing us for out breeding the “natives”.
Firstly LMN that is a very racist comment and secondly who do you refer to when you say natives?
Surely you do not mean Serbs!
It seems that you are so deep in the “Kosovo has always been Serbian” brainwashed environment that “allows” you putting comments like that.
Read about the pre-slavic Balkans LMN and you will see who the natives are.
I am not judging you LMN, it is you right to believe whatever you want.
But please just because you lived in Montenegro for a year and have been in Belgrade 4 or 5 times, do not try to impose your opinion on people that have lived there for centuries (I count my family as one of them).
The problems in Kosovo did not start at the time you were in Montenegro and in Belgrade, they did in 1912.
You referred to the gunned Serb children near Gorazdevac.
Every Albanian that is not mentally sick has condemned the act.
That is the act of an animal and not an act of a human.
We know what is to be terrorised, we have been there until 1999. We will not be something we always hated, we will not be a terror inflicting nation as Serbia was (and is).
LMN, you refer to the need for NATO protection. I can assure you that nobody will harm Serbs in Kosovo.
You se LMN, up to 1999 we had Serb tanks in Kosovo villages, not to protect us but to terrorise us.
Finally LMN, during your short encounter with the Balkans issues have you ever judged the pre 1999 terror inflicted by Serb forces (army, police and paramitaries)?
Have you ever judged the massacres and crimes committed by Serbs?
Or, did your lecturers decided to skip that infamous era.

sp

pre 15 godina

SerbAllay, maybe you should read UNSC 1244 before commenting. The whole resolution is geared toward the establishment of an autonomous govt in Kosovo.
Which means totally separate laws from that of Serbia. The only contradictory point would be the declaration of independence vs province of Serbia.

Adrian Gashi

pre 15 godina

Sorry to burst the bubble of many here, but if Thaci was irrelevant and his word didn't carry any weight, N Kosova would've been part of Serbia already. What, is Serbia not taking it because it doesn't want it, or what?
Maybe Thaci's word carries far more weight than that of all the "experts" commenting here, combined.

Big Bob

pre 15 godina

Thaci is small fish in a small pond. Maybe soon EU will have "birds and bees" talk with Thaci and finally explain to him the facts of life.

blero

pre 15 godina

(italy, 5 November 2008 14:49)
You sir have never lived in Kosovo, I can see that. I only wished you did. You would see first hand the rights we had in Ex-Yu and under Serbian rule.

(LMN II, USA, 5 November 2008 14:41)

As per my last comment: You can come to Kosovo and see that for yourself instead of judging from the distance.
Please do that and then respond to my comment.

(Peggy, 5 November 2008 02:21)

Peggy,
Hopefully, there will come the day that Serbian politicians will stop using Kosovo Serbs for their political gains.
The day that this happens, the distrust will disappear. We will see.

Blero

pre 15 godina

Why do you guys hate so much Serbs?
(italy, 4 November 2008 21:29)

Italy, you are absolutely wrong. The last thing we would hate is the Serbia nation.
We do however hate and will not stop hating is the Serbian governments attitude towards us.
This has been the case since 1912.
Not a single Serbian leader has ever taken a single step to treat Albanians as human and equal.
Every single Serbian Leader has always preached and used torture army and terror against Albanians in Kosovo.
If you wanted to se apartheid in full swing you did not have to go to South Africa. All you had to do is to come to Kosovo and see the superior Serbian race treat Albanians as third class nation.
So yes Italy, we do hate Serbian attitude with all our hearts.
We will hate that until the day somebody in the Serbian government wakes up and ask for forgiveness.
We will hate that until the day that this attitude of the Serbian government changes.



MikeC,

Serbs in Kosovo have every right guarantied by the Kosovo constitution.
And MikeC, it is an utter lie that they need NATO protection.
They can go freely anywhere they want (unlike Albanians that cannot go and refurbish their destroyed homes in the north part of Mitrovica).
If you don’t believe come to Kosovo and see it for yourself.
Also MikeC, if Albanians in Presevo attempt to cause problems that MUP backed groups in north of Kosovo are doing you would have seen actions taken by Serbian government similar to those that Serbia took in Kosovo in pre 1999 era.
Please MikeC do not try to convince us that the Serbian democracy exists.
We have experienced that democracy in action up to 1999.
We still bare the scars.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Blero (14) wrote.

"This distrust that Kosovo Serbs have is inflicted by the Serbian propaganda".

Really!!. And here I am thinking it was because of all those churhces and monasteries being burned, cemeteries being destroyed and murdered Serbs which brought all this distrust.

So how exactly does propaganda become tangable and commits all these crimes?

It's about time you guys stopped blaming Serbs for everything and took ownership of the situation there. It's so easy to blame but very hard to look at yourself and see your role in the situation.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci says that he will not let the EU mission’s deployment in northern Kosovo be subject to any conditions."

Thaci is daydreaming. As if he is in any position to tell the EU whether there will be conditions attached to north Kosovo. Unless he wants to do the suicidal and lose EU support altogether!

The EU is already negotiating with Belgrade and Moscow in order to get UNSC approval for Eulex. Whether Thaci likes it or not, the stark truth is that it is the West and not Pristina that calls the shots in south Kosovo now.

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

And MikeC, it is an utter lie that they need NATO protection.
They can go freely anywhere they want (unlike Albanians that cannot go and refurbish their destroyed homes in the north part of Mitrovica).

You have got to be kidding, surely you must be joking with that ridiculous comment. How many times have we read on here and other Balkan publications the problems Kosovo's Serbs have when it comes to freedom of movement and their feelings of insecurity. March 2004 showed what can happen, even when the incident that sparked the riots was a total LIE. I have seen videos of that ugly time. I have seen pictures of KFOR troops protecting Serbian Orthodox churches. I have seen pictures of KFOR escorting Serbs to get provisions or to visit their ancestor's graves. How do you expect the Serbs to feel when they don't receive justice for crimes commited against them...when will the Albanian authorities catch the criminals who machine gunned five Serb children while they were swimming in a river near Gorazdevac? Meanwhile this YouTube video shows the 24 hr protection needed for the enclave...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRIg1wdr79w

So, sir, you need to get your facts straight before writing such rubbish. The only Serbs that aren't in constant fear for their lives are the ones in Northerm Mitrovica and that's because they have strength in numbers so they can watch each others backs. I guess that burns up many of the ethnic Albanian posters on here, that they haven't been able to place all minorities under their Nazi sympathizing boots (Skanderbeg ring a bell). This is not a true multi-ethnic "state" and it never will be (at least in the traditional sense), ever, even EULEX will not be able to make a difference no matter where they are deployed.

Srboslav

pre 15 godina

Thaci belongs in jail!
(Danny, 4 November 2008 19:48)

Yes he certainly does. It really amazes me why Serbia havent filed an arrest warrant with interpool for this police murderer. We must not forget the people Thaci the criminal and his men murdered back in -94

italy

pre 15 godina

Blero,
You cannot come to me to tell such exaggerations. In ex-Yugoslavia Albanians had the same rights, thus also the responsabilities, as other nations. You pretended more rights, but responsabilites not. Wishing you all the best in your new born country, I would invite you and your nation to ponder about the national and individual responsabilities, because the problem you had with Serbian governemnt, which means Serbs, yesterday, will repeat with EU, Americans, or Martians tomorrow.

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

You sir have never lived in Kosovo, I can see that. I only wished you did. You would see first hand the rights we had in Ex-Yu and under Serbian rule.

Granted I have never lived in Kosovo, but I have lived in neighboring Montenegro. I spent over a year in Montenegro and even married a lovely and brilliant woman from Podgorica. I have visited Belgrade at least 4 or 5 times and I am still appalled at the bombed out buildings that remain there as an ugly reminder of the illegal attack NATO did. I was living there when the March 2004 riots took place and I was there when the Serb children I mentioned before were gunned down. I have seen how the ethnic Albanians work. First they move into a area and out breed the natives, then they demand their own schools & institutions, if those demands are not met they begin to issue threats until they get their way, they then demand broader and broader autonomy until they are essentially a state within a state. I know about the problems Macedonia has had with their ethnic Albanian population and while I was in Montenegro I heard about ethnic Albanian demands for their own institutions in Tuzi (the right to be autonomous from Podgorica, the right to their own schools and universities in their own language and so on and so forth).

Also, the one thing that surprised me more than anything was the hospitality of the Serbian people in both Montengro and Serbia to myself despite what my country and it's allies perpetrated on them. I know many still harbor resentments towards my country, I can't blame them for that, but I have always made it known, whenever possible, that the actions of my government, at times, are independent of the American people's will.

I was totally against my country getting involved in what was essentially a civil war and I was not the only one. Clinton bypassed Congress, he bypassed the UN and with western Europe's consent used NATO to bomb Serbia in order to take attention away from his little tryst with Monica Lewinski. Over 65% of Americans were against getting involved in the Balkans, but we were not listened to, we were fed lie after lie and unfortunately more than a few were taken in by the biased media at the time which was pretty much in cahoots with the government, how sad.

I am still ashamed of the fact that my govt, both Democrat and Republican, have sided with the Nazi sympathizers of WWII (Ustache Croats, Handzar Bosnian muslims, Skanderbeg Albanians), against the one country that was aligned with the allies in both world wars (Serbia). Not my country's finest moment I must admit.

gg

pre 15 godina

does blero mean tiny man? if i were in your position, making grand statements where albianians were treated as less than human while in/under serbia, then i would (if i were in his position) be the bigger man and show these people how one should behave. all i;ve seen from yourself and the news about kosovo is that the k-albanians are acting in step with what they claim to be acting against. the hypocracy is so thick i can hardly see the black cloud over the balkans.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Italy, you are absolutely wrong. The last thing we would hate is the Serbia nation.
(Blero, 5 November 2008 02:01)

a terror inflicting nation as Serbia was (and is).
(Blero, 6 November 2008 01:09)

no comment.

HE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH

pre 15 godina

Do you guys and gals have anything else better to do than to comment on these issues concerning Kosovo and Serbia. What is going to happen is going to happen. There has been deals made that we are not privy to and what the EU has decided is going to be so why jump up and down, whine, cry and complain. Move on folks with your lives and make the place better. Offer solutions instead of complaints.

blero

pre 15 godina

I get the feeling that Thaci thinks the EU is Kosovo's personal bodyguard, or something like that.
(Peter Sudyka, 4 November 2008 14:05)

Peter, care to elaborate a bit more on how did you come to that conclusion?
I read the article and somehow could not see what you did.
Peter, EULEX will either respect the Kosovo constitution or it will not be deployed.
Kosovo constitution guaranties citizens rights (all of them).

Veki, do you actually believe that anybody is listening to Serbia?
If it was up to Serbia, there would be no EULEX, there would be no Kosovo.

Serb Allay

pre 15 godina

Thaci!! your so called kosovo constitution is as good as "toilet paper". it has no legality to exist since resolution 1244 is still very much exist.

And EULEX cannot be deploy without serbia's permission and approval from the UNSC.

veki

pre 15 godina

"...he will not let the EU mission’s deployment in northern Kosovo be subject to any conditions."

Quite redicilous statement- don't think Thaci is a player in this game.

The ball is bouncing between Belgrade and UN and thaci and ramush can only watch.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Thaci is the most pathetic politician in the Balkans. He makes threats over this and that but in reality he is a puppet with no authority what so ever. He must have the easiest job in the world. He probably spends his days infront of his comupter playing Solitare while the big boys from Europe are runnig Kosovo.

Albanes

pre 15 godina

"I really do not understand Albanian politicans. Do they really think that Mitrovica will make part of Kosovo? I mean, who would dare to put that in practice?"

The minute N Mitrovica splits, so will Presevo Valley and nearby Albanians. Who would dare to put that in practice

Blero

pre 15 godina

(Peter Sudyka, 4 November 2008 20:28)

Now Peter, explain me which rights do the people in Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina have that the Serbs in Kosovo don’t?
Which rights are we advocating for Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina that we are not willing to provide to Kosovo Serbs?
Also Peter, you are absolutely wrong when you assume that we cannot do it alone.
The core purpose of EULEX is to act as the bridge until the reservations that Kosovo Serbs have diminished and are replaced by a mutual trust.
This distrust that Kosovo Serbs have is inflicted by the Serbian propaganda.
Finally Peter, it is not Thaci that is trying to force anything upon anybody.
It is Serbian government that is trying to keep Kosovo in limbo.
It is Serbian government that has, is and will be using Kosovo Serbs for their political gains.

Adrian Gashi

pre 15 godina

Sorry to burst the bubble of many here, but if Thaci was irrelevant and his word didn't carry any weight, N Kosova would've been part of Serbia already. What, is Serbia not taking it because it doesn't want it, or what?
Maybe Thaci's word carries far more weight than that of all the "experts" commenting here, combined.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

(Blero)

How can you honestly say that serbs in Kosovo have rights? Perhaps on paper but not in practice. Maybe serbs and albanians can talk peace once serbs in Kosovo don't need NATO protection 24 hour a day. Maybe there can be peace when serbian churches and monasteries are not surrounded by barbed wire to protect them from being burned to the ground by albanians. Do albanians in Presevo need NATO protection? Albanians are such hypocrites. You don't want to be controlled by serbs and serbs in Mitrovica don't want to be controlled by you. Leave them alone!
And how can albanians demand an independent Presevo when they are barely a majority?

italy

pre 15 godina

I really do not understand Albanian politicans. Do they really think that Mitrovica will make part of Kosovo? I mean, who would dare to put that in practice?

sp

pre 15 godina

SerbAllay, maybe you should read UNSC 1244 before commenting. The whole resolution is geared toward the establishment of an autonomous govt in Kosovo.
Which means totally separate laws from that of Serbia. The only contradictory point would be the declaration of independence vs province of Serbia.

Peter Sudyka

pre 15 godina

blero

The reason I say is that this is not the first Kosovo Albanian politician who appears to want to bring the Northern part of the country to heel. Knowing that they cannot do it alone, they appear to be pushing EULEX to do so. While I can understand they want order in the country, you forever hear about Sandzak, Presevo and Vojvodina being allowed greater autonomy and independence as per many Albanians, while no consideration is made for the Serbs of the North. It's a sensitive region and should not be forced in any way, the EU knows this, but people like Thaci seem to want to force it, that's all I meant.

italy

pre 15 godina

Sorry, Miri, to tell you, but you Albanians are strange guys. Why dont you cool down with your hate of Serbs? I mean this phrase: "So does Tadic, Jeremic and Kostunica!" is a real expression of hatred. Why do you guys hate so much Serbs? I am sure you will do the same with Americans, if you do not obtain what you aspire. Thaci is a criminal, put there to sit by NATO, in order to appease agressiveness in Kosovo people and to illude you to think how the international community is siding you. But it is only a transitional gimmick. You will have to stop venerating Thacis, and stop hating Serbs. I hope Americans will teach you that.

Big Bob

pre 15 godina

Thaci is small fish in a small pond. Maybe soon EU will have "birds and bees" talk with Thaci and finally explain to him the facts of life.

Blero

pre 15 godina

Why do you guys hate so much Serbs?
(italy, 4 November 2008 21:29)

Italy, you are absolutely wrong. The last thing we would hate is the Serbia nation.
We do however hate and will not stop hating is the Serbian governments attitude towards us.
This has been the case since 1912.
Not a single Serbian leader has ever taken a single step to treat Albanians as human and equal.
Every single Serbian Leader has always preached and used torture army and terror against Albanians in Kosovo.
If you wanted to se apartheid in full swing you did not have to go to South Africa. All you had to do is to come to Kosovo and see the superior Serbian race treat Albanians as third class nation.
So yes Italy, we do hate Serbian attitude with all our hearts.
We will hate that until the day somebody in the Serbian government wakes up and ask for forgiveness.
We will hate that until the day that this attitude of the Serbian government changes.



MikeC,

Serbs in Kosovo have every right guarantied by the Kosovo constitution.
And MikeC, it is an utter lie that they need NATO protection.
They can go freely anywhere they want (unlike Albanians that cannot go and refurbish their destroyed homes in the north part of Mitrovica).
If you don’t believe come to Kosovo and see it for yourself.
Also MikeC, if Albanians in Presevo attempt to cause problems that MUP backed groups in north of Kosovo are doing you would have seen actions taken by Serbian government similar to those that Serbia took in Kosovo in pre 1999 era.
Please MikeC do not try to convince us that the Serbian democracy exists.
We have experienced that democracy in action up to 1999.
We still bare the scars.

blero

pre 15 godina

(italy, 5 November 2008 14:49)
You sir have never lived in Kosovo, I can see that. I only wished you did. You would see first hand the rights we had in Ex-Yu and under Serbian rule.

(LMN II, USA, 5 November 2008 14:41)

As per my last comment: You can come to Kosovo and see that for yourself instead of judging from the distance.
Please do that and then respond to my comment.

(Peggy, 5 November 2008 02:21)

Peggy,
Hopefully, there will come the day that Serbian politicians will stop using Kosovo Serbs for their political gains.
The day that this happens, the distrust will disappear. We will see.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Blero (14) wrote.

"This distrust that Kosovo Serbs have is inflicted by the Serbian propaganda".

Really!!. And here I am thinking it was because of all those churhces and monasteries being burned, cemeteries being destroyed and murdered Serbs which brought all this distrust.

So how exactly does propaganda become tangable and commits all these crimes?

It's about time you guys stopped blaming Serbs for everything and took ownership of the situation there. It's so easy to blame but very hard to look at yourself and see your role in the situation.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci says that he will not let the EU mission’s deployment in northern Kosovo be subject to any conditions."

Thaci is daydreaming. As if he is in any position to tell the EU whether there will be conditions attached to north Kosovo. Unless he wants to do the suicidal and lose EU support altogether!

The EU is already negotiating with Belgrade and Moscow in order to get UNSC approval for Eulex. Whether Thaci likes it or not, the stark truth is that it is the West and not Pristina that calls the shots in south Kosovo now.

Srboslav

pre 15 godina

Thaci belongs in jail!
(Danny, 4 November 2008 19:48)

Yes he certainly does. It really amazes me why Serbia havent filed an arrest warrant with interpool for this police murderer. We must not forget the people Thaci the criminal and his men murdered back in -94

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

And MikeC, it is an utter lie that they need NATO protection.
They can go freely anywhere they want (unlike Albanians that cannot go and refurbish their destroyed homes in the north part of Mitrovica).

You have got to be kidding, surely you must be joking with that ridiculous comment. How many times have we read on here and other Balkan publications the problems Kosovo's Serbs have when it comes to freedom of movement and their feelings of insecurity. March 2004 showed what can happen, even when the incident that sparked the riots was a total LIE. I have seen videos of that ugly time. I have seen pictures of KFOR troops protecting Serbian Orthodox churches. I have seen pictures of KFOR escorting Serbs to get provisions or to visit their ancestor's graves. How do you expect the Serbs to feel when they don't receive justice for crimes commited against them...when will the Albanian authorities catch the criminals who machine gunned five Serb children while they were swimming in a river near Gorazdevac? Meanwhile this YouTube video shows the 24 hr protection needed for the enclave...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRIg1wdr79w

So, sir, you need to get your facts straight before writing such rubbish. The only Serbs that aren't in constant fear for their lives are the ones in Northerm Mitrovica and that's because they have strength in numbers so they can watch each others backs. I guess that burns up many of the ethnic Albanian posters on here, that they haven't been able to place all minorities under their Nazi sympathizing boots (Skanderbeg ring a bell). This is not a true multi-ethnic "state" and it never will be (at least in the traditional sense), ever, even EULEX will not be able to make a difference no matter where they are deployed.

italy

pre 15 godina

Blero,
You cannot come to me to tell such exaggerations. In ex-Yugoslavia Albanians had the same rights, thus also the responsabilities, as other nations. You pretended more rights, but responsabilites not. Wishing you all the best in your new born country, I would invite you and your nation to ponder about the national and individual responsabilities, because the problem you had with Serbian governemnt, which means Serbs, yesterday, will repeat with EU, Americans, or Martians tomorrow.

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

You sir have never lived in Kosovo, I can see that. I only wished you did. You would see first hand the rights we had in Ex-Yu and under Serbian rule.

Granted I have never lived in Kosovo, but I have lived in neighboring Montenegro. I spent over a year in Montenegro and even married a lovely and brilliant woman from Podgorica. I have visited Belgrade at least 4 or 5 times and I am still appalled at the bombed out buildings that remain there as an ugly reminder of the illegal attack NATO did. I was living there when the March 2004 riots took place and I was there when the Serb children I mentioned before were gunned down. I have seen how the ethnic Albanians work. First they move into a area and out breed the natives, then they demand their own schools & institutions, if those demands are not met they begin to issue threats until they get their way, they then demand broader and broader autonomy until they are essentially a state within a state. I know about the problems Macedonia has had with their ethnic Albanian population and while I was in Montenegro I heard about ethnic Albanian demands for their own institutions in Tuzi (the right to be autonomous from Podgorica, the right to their own schools and universities in their own language and so on and so forth).

Also, the one thing that surprised me more than anything was the hospitality of the Serbian people in both Montengro and Serbia to myself despite what my country and it's allies perpetrated on them. I know many still harbor resentments towards my country, I can't blame them for that, but I have always made it known, whenever possible, that the actions of my government, at times, are independent of the American people's will.

I was totally against my country getting involved in what was essentially a civil war and I was not the only one. Clinton bypassed Congress, he bypassed the UN and with western Europe's consent used NATO to bomb Serbia in order to take attention away from his little tryst with Monica Lewinski. Over 65% of Americans were against getting involved in the Balkans, but we were not listened to, we were fed lie after lie and unfortunately more than a few were taken in by the biased media at the time which was pretty much in cahoots with the government, how sad.

I am still ashamed of the fact that my govt, both Democrat and Republican, have sided with the Nazi sympathizers of WWII (Ustache Croats, Handzar Bosnian muslims, Skanderbeg Albanians), against the one country that was aligned with the allies in both world wars (Serbia). Not my country's finest moment I must admit.

Blero

pre 15 godina

(LMN II, USA, 5 November 2008 22:28)

LMN, though you replied to the art of the comment I put forward for “italy” you proved my point.
It is very easy judging from the distance as you are doing.
In addition to doing that, you go even further on accusing us for out breeding the “natives”.
Firstly LMN that is a very racist comment and secondly who do you refer to when you say natives?
Surely you do not mean Serbs!
It seems that you are so deep in the “Kosovo has always been Serbian” brainwashed environment that “allows” you putting comments like that.
Read about the pre-slavic Balkans LMN and you will see who the natives are.
I am not judging you LMN, it is you right to believe whatever you want.
But please just because you lived in Montenegro for a year and have been in Belgrade 4 or 5 times, do not try to impose your opinion on people that have lived there for centuries (I count my family as one of them).
The problems in Kosovo did not start at the time you were in Montenegro and in Belgrade, they did in 1912.
You referred to the gunned Serb children near Gorazdevac.
Every Albanian that is not mentally sick has condemned the act.
That is the act of an animal and not an act of a human.
We know what is to be terrorised, we have been there until 1999. We will not be something we always hated, we will not be a terror inflicting nation as Serbia was (and is).
LMN, you refer to the need for NATO protection. I can assure you that nobody will harm Serbs in Kosovo.
You se LMN, up to 1999 we had Serb tanks in Kosovo villages, not to protect us but to terrorise us.
Finally LMN, during your short encounter with the Balkans issues have you ever judged the pre 1999 terror inflicted by Serb forces (army, police and paramitaries)?
Have you ever judged the massacres and crimes committed by Serbs?
Or, did your lecturers decided to skip that infamous era.

HE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH

pre 15 godina

Do you guys and gals have anything else better to do than to comment on these issues concerning Kosovo and Serbia. What is going to happen is going to happen. There has been deals made that we are not privy to and what the EU has decided is going to be so why jump up and down, whine, cry and complain. Move on folks with your lives and make the place better. Offer solutions instead of complaints.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Italy, you are absolutely wrong. The last thing we would hate is the Serbia nation.
(Blero, 5 November 2008 02:01)

a terror inflicting nation as Serbia was (and is).
(Blero, 6 November 2008 01:09)

no comment.

gg

pre 15 godina

does blero mean tiny man? if i were in your position, making grand statements where albianians were treated as less than human while in/under serbia, then i would (if i were in his position) be the bigger man and show these people how one should behave. all i;ve seen from yourself and the news about kosovo is that the k-albanians are acting in step with what they claim to be acting against. the hypocracy is so thick i can hardly see the black cloud over the balkans.