Saturday, 01.11.2008.
02:28
The Serbian government late on Friday notified Malaysian Ambassador Saw Ching Hong that he is no longer welcome in the country.
Izvor: Tanjug
pre 15 godina
I referred to Mr Cook as second-rate, not "second hand" but an intresting Freudian slip on your behalf nevertheless.On a more serious note though, the statement that the Kosovo issue nearly sparked World War III can only be described as illusions of grandeur.
pre 15 godina
It really makes no diference who recognises Kosovo now. Another 50 countries can recognise it but the fact remains the world is in or about to enter a major recession and not just a hiccup. This means that foreign funding and investment will not go overseas and especially to quasi-states let alone UN accepted poor states. This means that states like Serbia and to a greater extent Kosovo people will have no work but the further Kosovo moves from Serbia the less the likelihood of Kosovo actually developing. As much as the Albanian jokers on this website profess- Kosovo cannot do without Serbia and the EU are not about to start government handouts and private investors are not going to squander cash on uncertain bets. Despite what those jokers in the Pristina govt tell you- things are only going to get worse. They don't care- they have siphoned off what they can just as all the independence leaders in most other movements in the Balkans have and elsewhere in the world do. Serbia needs to start appealing to the loyal ALbanians of Kosovo of which I'm sure there are plenty of- despite the childish comments of Albanians here who live in comfort in the west. Its about burek on the table and not guns.
pre 15 godina
I could not resist answering to the last two posts.
One states that Kosovo issue is a trivality,and the other one states that Pady Ashdown and the late Robin Cook are second hand politicians.
The Kosovo issue is the (or rather was the) main national issue of the Albanians.The issue that nearly trigered the third WW.
The issue that not solved the way is being solved could drag not only Balkans but Europe and probably the World,in endless conflict.
As for Robin Cook having being a second hand politician,then really I am surprised that you find the time to write politicaly oriented opinions.
pre 15 godina
Ask an ordinary person on the street in Britain where Kosovo or Albania is they wouldnt have a clue. The West has always looked at the Balkans as a poor and udesirable relative hence they sent second-rate politicians with dubious biographies such as Paddy Ashdown and Robin Cook to sort out the mess. Little wonder then that we have come to this shambolic situation that we have today.The only beacon of hope is that the world sees the back of the utterly dispecible and corrupt Bush regime which has been selling
false dreams of "independence" and "freedom" to the gullable.
pre 15 godina
Ataman,
I think pleurat's comment will make more sense to you if you read MikeC's comment #42. I believe it was in response to it.
pre 15 godina
With permision can i use a Serb site beeing the (enemy)?.
(pleurat, 2 November 2008 19:26)
Hope, you are joking. I am not sure where is the humor and what is serious. If you are joking, than my answer is: we are not B92 - but both Serbs and Albanians have such "friends", that a fair enemy is always a relief and is welcome.
If you said it seriously, this is sad because why do you nurture an enemy picture? Maybe try to get rid of it.
pre 15 godina
B92 is not my enemy.In most part as far as i can understand it reports current problems in our regions.I first started commenting my opinion a few months ago on this site after i had red some of your comments and quite frankly i could not resist to give you an answer beeing your (enemy).Take it also as a means of enlightment that you can benefit from.With permision can i use a Serb site beeing the (enemy)?.
pre 15 godina
medinat y is smart.
(smile, 2 November 2008 18:11)
This is of course beyond any doubt. :)
And beg you pardon, of course, MEDINAT Y, all in capital letters. :)
But they are in an situation without any parallel. In the fact, USA won't dare to push them over such triviality as Kosovo.
Not sure, is it known or not, but Medvedev publicly told, he is ready to take second citizenship because of his wife. He is one of the many who did not listen to tudjman (all small letters, of course).
Also funny, how Russia did deal with the captured "experts" from Me-Yi in Georgia:
"OK guys, please don't do it next time"
"OK, OK, we won't" (experts sent back from Russia to Me-Yi, issue quickly closed).
pre 15 godina
'Serbians and Israelite citizens, were the only ones...'
i say we're in mighty fine company then :) and medinat y is of course not recognizing the abomination. medinat y is smart.
pre 15 godina
Serbia expels Malaysian ambassador:
Wow, who's next?. Don't get me wrong but this is very inappropriate from serbia, guess what the rest of the East Asian countries will follow and by the time ICJ makes the formal and final statement there will be 100+ countries who have recognized and established diplomatic relations with the Republic Of Kosova.
You see there are many consequences for these inappropriate actions from Belgrade which will have a negative impact in the future.
When Montenegro and Macedonia accepted Kosova's Independence and it's passports there was nothing else remaining to be done. It's only Serbia in the region who's to follow it's neighbours and make the recognition of Kosova official.
The Malaysian ambassador leaves Serbia and he doesn't have to go back to his country, instead he'll fly or drive south to Prishtina where he's named again an ambassador to Kosova.
Pakistan is next and they'll do so before x-mass.
Wake up Serbia because it's time to agree with the reality in the region. It would be a very wise thing to do.
Kosova is being recognized quicker than all former Yugoslav Republics.
Can anyone tell me what you expect from ICJ after all.
pre 15 godina
There are news that Egypt will follow shortly.
pre 15 godina
FYI (to serbians)
Serbians and Israelite citizens, were the only ones that couldnt enter in Malaysia. No passport and no visa was valid (of course Jeremic could go, cuz he has diplomatic passport)
i want to say that Malaysia was aware of Kosovo always
pre 15 godina
and again, an important part of my comment was censored...
I´d love to find out which part of it was the trigger ...the word illyrian illusion or the word inferiority complex...?
as for Brian, you should rather stick to facts, than to mere accusations... while you talk of mass rape (! - is that something that is in the back of your head??? as far as we all know, there were no mass rapes in Kosovo, but anyway, interestingly enough you are saying a lot about yourself with that accusation. )
more than 150 destroyed orthodox churches (!) are proof enough of what is going on in Kosovo... and these are not stupid accusations but hard facts.
kind regards to Ireland,
although I doubt that "Brian" is a real irish person...
pre 15 godina
Don't worry Serbian people. The Malaysian embassy will move toward Kosovo. If someone is planing to travell to this country they can apply in Prishtina or the Malaysian authorities will open any liaisson office in Belgrade. So you could do over there also.
Now the next step and the most important one is that Serbian people will recognize the Kosovo multilateral Declaration of Independence, since over there live albanians, serbians, turkish....
pre 15 godina
Micheal Breathnach,
Just as we fought for the freedom of Ireland, so did the Kosovars who were subject to Serbian murder, rape, burn - crimes against humanity.
Their freedom is in question, not the American one.
pre 15 godina
to "cees":
since you seem to come from/ live in a country where anti-serbian sentiments were taught via tv for many years, I do not take it as an offense, but nevertheless, I´d like to point out to you that there is no "new country" in which "institutions" the Serbs should try to integrate...
quite absurd, that thought, indeed.
you know, perhaps you didn´t think about it thoroughly, but even compared with "western standards" there is a little bit more to a real country than to simply claim it.
since there is no legitimate act of foundation... I do not see how you can even think of a "new country"...
better call it a stillborn puppet entity, because that´s what it actually is.
pre 15 godina
I'm surprised how many albanians visit this serbian newsforum. It seems there are more albanian readers here than there are serbian visitors. I wonder how free and domocratic the kosovoalbanian media is when so many of its people turn to their biggest enemy to get their word out and speak their mind. Ironic, is it not?
pre 15 godina
I found your approach of the country very offensive, which went contrary to my positive feelings toward the very friendly people.
(cees, 1 November 2008 20:47)
Cees, did I say anything bad about Malaysian people? I did bash their government, but not the people.
And I really reject the position of Malaysian government regarding Israel and Jewish people. This is a major disgrace. The corruption at the government's level is an other well-known problem.
BTW: my wife was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. I can't scan her passport at this moment because she's in Hungary and I am in Serbia at this moment but in few weeks if you want...
Enough said? ;)
pre 15 godina
Village-Bey,
Unfortunately for average traveler these places aren't high at all (anymore). I contacted HSH at the time they had web site. Now they are gone. The reason was very obscure and had to do with some boring multiplication factors of some boring tariff.
They answered within few hours - but from the response it was clear, they have absolutely no clout what they are doing or supposed to do. In the meantime they seem to have very-very serious issues on their own. Their web site is down and I heard many bad news (lay-offs, etc).
This used to be their web site: http://www.hsh.com.al
If not that wouldn't be the case, many people would come to Tirana or Pristina to buy certain tickets. A completely legitimate business and a great way to work around some nightmare bureaucracy in Russia and China. That was the main reason I asked. But no, no way. And guess what, it was possible during Enver Hoxha.
pre 15 godina
Pathetic, immature, and amateurish diplomacy in line with the "state policy."
This looks like school suspension handed to an unruly child by a freaked-out principal. That in turn, makes the Belgrade government look ridiculously inept and regrettably short-sighted. What is the FM going to tell his Malaysian counterpart in two months? "Sorry and welcome back?" It's sad and pathetic!
pre 15 godina
I am sorry Ataman, I noticed your Hungarian background, but thought that you are living in the Vojvodina, that would mean to me that you would be a Serbian citizen.
I visited Malaysia twice and liked the country very much, because it has such a variation of peoples, with a big contrast between the (more Chinese) west-coast and the (Malayan) Muslim east-coast.
I found your approach of the country very offensive, which went contrary to my positive feelings toward the very friendly people.
Compared to my experiences with some Serbs in Mitrovica, I would preferably live in Malaysia.
They like Europeans opposite to the Serbs living in Kosovo's northern part. Their (self?)-isolation is dangerous, especially for the stability of the region in general. I am afraid that the pent-up aggression will have an outbreak, which can't be controled by any party, playing a role in that part: nor Belgrade, nor EULEX, nor UNMIK and certainly not Pristina. None of them is telling honestly what the future will bring to the Serbians in Kosovo. They still think - supported by the Belgrade gvt. - that they can choose themselves, which is an illusion and will end in a desillusion. They feel it, but are too insure to make the final step: be part of a new country and fight for your rights within the new institutions. The outcome would be much more positive for them.
pre 15 godina
Expect Egypt to recognize soon.
pre 15 godina
The Serbian government late on Friday notified Malaysian Ambassador Saw Ching Hong that he is no longer welcome in the country.
Dont worry he is gona be back like the other ambassadors.
pre 15 godina
The only surprise is that Islamic Malaysia took so long to do it. Their interest on this is to undermine international law. They are interested in a land grab in Southern Thailand - supporting a rebel guerilla movement down there. The erosion of international law is in their interest.
pre 15 godina
What are you going to do with russian ambassador?
I know you are going to call malaysian ambassador again.
pre 15 godina
Please Ataman, do tell. We are among friends after all. I promise what you tell me, won’t go beyond the porous walls of this forum.
You have no valid reasons to distrust me, I’m an Albanian and I abide by the ancient Kanun. Vendetta, Oath and Hospitability are trinoms of my life.
On a more serious note, I’m intrigued by the fact that you have access to these high powered places. I hope you are not with secret services.
pre 15 godina
thank you, Malaysia, and people all over the world, incl serbia, who support democracy and independence in the balkans.
(roberto, 1 November 2008 16:23)
Roberto,
1) You claim to be "neutral" and successfully wrote "Malaysia" with capital letter and Serbia with small? OK. Than maybe you don't know, there is an obligatory school reading all over Balkans from Ferenc Móra called "Boys from the Pál Street". Originally in Hungarian, it was translated to every language around. The fact, somebody's name is written properly with capital letter or in all small letters became the part of the culture. Same is of course in Hungary. If you are active in the area, please do in Rome as Romans do. Since you are not Serb/Albanian/Hungarian/etc. you are excused this time :)
2) This is probably the first time in decades, the violently anti-Semitic government of Malaysia
http://tinyurl.com/68fhuh
gets any praise from a Jew. You did achieve quite a bit. I do not want to comment on that, but let my tongue to dry out if I would say any praise to Malaysian government until they maintain their stance towards Israel as they do.
To be honest, I was feeling somewhat uneasy that Mr. Jeremic (given his background, as far as I know - I bet, you did not know, right?) did ever meet with any Malaysian representative. But I accepted it, saying, maybe it will bring some use, if more than some milk from a male goat ("Как с козла молоко" in Russian), than it's OK.
Now the Malaysian government turned to be just a bunch of "козёл", so I am not unhappy: finally it's what I expect from them, everything back to normal. I would be much more sad if אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל would recognize Kosovo, but hopefully it won't happen.
pre 15 godina
"though you have never been there yourself. As you said: they don't recognize Serbian passports."
(cees, 1 November 2008 14:22)
Cees, I am NOT SERB. I never had YU citizenship (any part of it or whole). I do NOT speak Serbian well, only understand it to a good degree. My name sounds like I am from Scotland, but I am not native English speaker. I speak perfectly, without any accent both Russian and Hungarian. Also some other languages. I like always to underscore, this web site is not about my person and I am reluctant to tell more. It has nothing to do with Albanians or Serbs. C'est la vie.
Intelligentsia leaving the country is nothing new in the entire Central Europe. I am pretty familiar with the situation in Hungary. What you wrote about (presumably) Serbia can apply to the whole region. A good part of the blame goes to stupid "Western" politicians.
pre 15 godina
This article should have been entitled "Blg regime has yet another tantrum and again shows its true colors." thank you, Malaysia, and people all over the world, incl serbia, who support democracy and independence in the balkans.
pre 15 godina
To Breathnach:
"The truth will be exposed for sure. What will these US politicians' children and grandchildren think of them then?"
The truth has been known, despite some Serbs' attempts to hide it. http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/kosovo/cuska/cuska_frameset.html some 10,000 Albanian civilians suffered a similar fate.
Btw: Ireland je English!
pre 15 godina
""""Who cares whether Malaysia or Timbuktu recognises Kosovo? We all know it is done under pressure and we all know it makes no difference whatsoever to the situation on the ground. This decision is not going to reduce crime, feed the Albanians or improve energy supplies, now is it? ""
I totally agree. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirghistan etc have not recognized Kosovo. This is the most important thing. Malaysia is a puppet country :)
pre 15 godina
"Just a sample, how one should trust the government of Malaysia, that's it. We had little personal experiences at a low level. Not a country you want really to live in and their officials are utterly corrupt and stupid on all levels. Plus nightmarish bureaucracy to deal with".
Ataman by stating this, you clearly show that you think to may judge other countries with the support of reading the internet, though you have never been there yourself. As you said: they don't recognize Serbian passports.
It is the example of aggressivity in defence like some of the Serbian contributors in this forum have.
Look to the international reports about your own country according: corruption, Mafia, drug-trafficking, killing journalists etc. "Not a country you want really live in" and the Serbian intelligencia is eager to leave this country!!
I think you have brought some smarter comments in the past!!
cees
pre 15 godina
Presumably this time around, now that Serbia has expelled the ambassador, Malaysia actually has recognised 'puppet-state's UDI. Doesn't overly matter at this stage of proceedings as trend established since end of February will re-impose itself with a vengeance after Kosovo fades from the headlines.
'betabe' said:
> As things are goings, soon there will be no ambasador of any country in Belgrade. T
You mean just like 'pseudo-state' was supposed to have the numbers to get into the UN by now?
Mark (Shqype):
A few recognitions now, more or less, really is beside the point. As for Pakistan, don't think US's recent violations of it's sovereign territory will be doing much to endear pakistani's to this idea. Shall see in the weeks/months/years ahead.
'EA' said:
> Serbia has no right to tell another independent country what to do.
Hardly see how this statement applies to the article here. Serbia in fact has every right to expel whichever ambassador it chooses too for what is perceived by them to be an unwelcome act.
As for the duration of this & other such actions, wouldn't be taking the case of similiar actions made before GA vote as a guide - given that the countries most important to Serbia are specifically exempted from these actions.
While this is indeed a 'waffle', will nevertheless impose a real 'impost' to those countries who follow suit which, while they may not lose much, will still lose something. And as time goes on & Kosovo status question fades in importance to both US & EU, 'balance's will shift.
'Thomas Jefferson' said:
> ICJ is a non-biding OPINION. To simplify to those who do not understand legal terminologies, it's like writing an op-ed opinion on the back of a newspaper. Some may read it, some might not even see it or care about it!
> Irrelevant!
Non-binding but hardly irrelevant (at least to others) - especially when it comes to possible future punitive legal actions against those countries that have recognised UDI in the event the ICJ rules in Serbia's favour.
And of course, when it comes to recognition reversal should this be the case. But naturally don't expect an ethnic albanian to agree with this viewpoint.
pre 15 godina
It's so depressing to see that after so many months of Kosovo UDI the proud Kosovars have to use Serbian website to express their gratitude to the countries that recognized their "state". That's pretty humiliating! Aren't they capable of creating their own, independent website? Or they are subconsciously admitting they ARE part of Serbia.
To No. 16: For you info, after the night of Halloween, Miosevic is where Thomas Jefferson is and will be.
pre 15 godina
I'm considering studying 'independence movements' as part of a Phd. I find this situation to be truly the saddest that I have encountered to date. Its a study in itself.
pre 15 godina
Well, at the end of the day, everyone knows (but will not say so publicly) that only 2 recognitions ultimately counts -- Moscow's and Beijing's. But don't hold your breaths for these to happen anytime soon, if ever!
Meanwhile Belgrade can claim that Kuala Lumpur doesn't matter and Pristina can pretend that it is happy to be outside the UN.
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Would be even better if Surroi replaced Thaci altogether.
(village-bey, 1 November 2008 08:55)
Can only agree on that. It is in Kosovo interest to clean up their act. As for Malaysia - this is the country which is itself plagued by ethnic issues: Chinese versus Malay. I would not call them a "US puppet state", rather a very corrupt and controverse place. Even few month ago they went as far as NOT RECOGNIZING SERBIAN PASSPORTS(!), somewhat what no other country, even Saudi Arabia did. After that they turned and established diplomatic relations - and few weeks later turned again. Their government deserves all booing for that and many other reasons, too.
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Especially Albanian diplomacy, having spent most of the 60s and 70s sponsoring Stalinist and Maoist ideas throughout the world, needs now to focus all its energies in gathering international support for independence.
(village-bey, 1 November 2008 08:55)
I see some excellent chances in some professional organization(s) dominated by Russia and China(!) - but of course I won't tell. Albanians could carry Kosovo literally on their backs because they are co-founders and Serbia has only observer status - but well... they will 100% miss it and I won't be sad if they do it.
In a different matter several years ago I contacted Albanian authorities regarding their role in that organization. At last, I got e-mail response - but they were completely off.
pre 15 godina
Who cares whether Malaysia or Timbuktu recognises Kosovo? We all know it is done under pressure and we all know it makes no difference whatsoever to the situation on the ground. This decision is not going to reduce crime, feed the Albanians or improve energy supplies, now is it?
Kosovo is occupied Serbian soil and it is only a matter of time before the occupiers get the boot. The Albanians should start to rebuild bridges with Serbians so they can transition into a self-ruling autonomous region much more peacefully.
Countries like Malaysia are acting irresponsibly when they give Albanians a sense of false hope while also supporting illegal initiatives by failing global dictators.
Peace to all.
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now go on and send out your gratefulness, but keep in mind, Malaysia (!) did it not for you, but for the US.
they don´t even knew you exist...
(Jovan, 1 November 2008 12:01)
Malaysia had it's own issue with Serbia for a while, not recognizing it. They know about Kosovo and their decision is not because they would be US puppet. They have their own corruption/mafia/dirty business issues. It's rather looks like "birds of feather" with Kosovo. Malaysia is pretty much anti-American and Osama has a broad support there. But maybe Ms. Harxhi did a better job than Mr. Jeremic this time.
pre 15 godina
16 (!) more or less cynical comments by our dear friends clearly show the mental state they are in...
I´d say their desperation must be great when they react in that way, given that Malaysia has earlier said that it will "recognize" the stillborn puppet...
kids, no matter how happy you seem to be, don´t fool yourselves, the ICJ-ruling will certainly not be irrelevant, as some smart-kid pointed out... is is formally not binding, but it is very relevant - you will learn that, I am sure of that.
now go on and send out your gratefulness, but keep in mind, Malaysia (!) did it not for you, but for the US.
they don´t even knew you exist...
pre 15 godina
That's really nice Serbia,really nice.Good for you,this might get Kosova back for you.
pre 15 godina
Btw, what happened to Jeremic' statement "Malaysia won't recognize Kosovo. Malaysia will support Serbia's initiative at ICJ?"..I am curious.
(Thomas Jefferson, 1 November 2008 11:20)
Just a sample, how one should trust the government of Malaysia, that's it. We had little personal experiences at a low level. Not a country you want really to live in and their officials are utterly corrupt and stupid on all levels. Plus nightmarish bureaucracy to deal with.
Otherwise ICJ ruling is important to sue governments. Before the ruling it is a high risk. Just in this sample: Serbia suing Malaysia (save USA) will certainly fail and make a precedence (and generate a new wave). On the other hand after a positive ruling the chances to vin a lawsuit are much higher. A single positive ruling will set a precedence and potentially generate a "negative wave". I think, this is what the current Serbian government is about.
As far as the further recognitions: I expect the outgoing administration of bush-criminal to make some more final push here and there and some countries may yield in the last moment. If the current polls are correct and Obama wins, than at least there won't be any pushing for a while.
Same time Serbian government should spare no money for best lobbying where it is the most important, i.e. USA.
pre 15 godina
Realpolitics!
Serbia expells Malayzian Ambassador, but not the British, German or the American one.
It's because Malayzia found that recognizing Kosovo's independence is its national interest, rather than supporting Russia-Serbia line.
On the other hand, Serbia lost the economic/political interests with Malayzia - as this country is more interested in Kosovo. Respectively in EU & U.S.
They know that Kosovo will be an EU country and it may support relations with Malayzia in the future.
So, Montenegro, FYRoM, Malayzia and other non-great powers's Ambassadors will continuously be expelled.
What a diplomatic cheat of the Serbian public opinion!
This game will continue for a decade period!
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I thought Serbia needs Malaysia.
Oh, I forgot, Russia's gdp income is below Malaysia.
Serbia has no embassy in Malaysia.
It's funny how Serbia thinks that the world spins around its pace. Lol. Milosevic had the same ideology as well. Where is he today?
Isolation on the way!
Btw, what happened to Jeremic' statement "Malaysia won't recognize Kosovo. Malaysia will support Serbia's initiative at ICJ?"..I am curious.
ICJ is a non-biding OPINION. To simplify to those who do not understand legal terminologies, it's like writing an op-ed opinion on the back of a newspaper. Some may read it, some might not even see it or care about it!
Irrelevant!
pre 15 godina
I thought Malaysia was not going to recognise Kosova's independence. At least Mr Jeremic was trying to convince so. I guess some more Asian coutries (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc.) are now going to follow suit...
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"...as a form of pressure on that tribunal, the statement added."
That is another Serbian joke)
Wasn't Serbia apeal to other undecided country to wait until a decision is made by General Assembly regarding Serbia's request to ICJ?
We all know how the voting went, who voted pro, against and abstain and the reasons behind each country decision.
Serbia has no right to tell another independent country what to do. These times have gone once and for all. Ahhh one more thing. The ambasador will be invited back soon and that is another Serbian joke))
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Thank you Malaysia...Well Mr Jeremic more and more vill recognize Kosova , and non of them vill take it bak as you said before.Don'lie to your people Kosova has never been part of serbia and vill never be
God bless Kosova.
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thank you malaysia over all ther we go 52
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Visits of Edith Harxhi to Malaysia and Dr Berisha’s to Japan are the few rare occasions of Albanian diplomacy playing a proactive role. It is time that the political leadership of both countries dedicated more time and effort to the international recognition process. Especially Albanian diplomacy, having spent most of the 60s and 70s sponsoring Stalinist and Maoist ideas throughout the world, needs now to focus all its energies in gathering international support for independence.
Appointments of Miss Harxhi as deputy minister of foreign affairs and Crown Prince Leka as a special adviser to the same ministry are very encouraging signs indeed.
In Kosova, Thaci needs to replace Hyseni with Veton Surroi. Would be even better if Surroi replaced Thaci altogether.
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They (Malaysians)should have waited for the courts decision / opinion before making this move.
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Let's hope this one stays out.
We don't want Serbian government to look like Monty Python team and bring him back in a few days.
I can imagine this will be shrugged off as just another Serbian tantrum. This time, Serbia must stand firm if they wish to have any credibility.
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Just like the government of my country (Ireland), the Malaysian authorities have bowed to this ridiculous US Regime's demand to recognise the illegally declared independence of the occupied territory of Kosovo i Metohija.
More than most countries, this move might well come back to haunt Kuala Lumpur in the near future.
Instead of behaving in this pathetically frantic escapade of infecting countries' foreign policies, the US Regime should seriously begin to conduct an indepth moral inventory of itself and its actions in the Balkans in the last 15 years and start to make genuine amends to Serbia.
The truth will be exposed for sure. What will these US politicians' children and grandchildren think of them then?
Micheal Breathnach
in Ireland
pre 15 godina
Keep them coming!!!!
Thank you Malaysia!!!!
pre 15 godina
Gee, B92, no longer posting articles titled "X Country Recognizes Kosovo Independence?" Instead you just post that the country had its ambassador expelled? I guess that's one way to keep Serbian morale high.
Thank you for the recognition, Malaysia. Hopefully soon Pakistan will follow in your footsteps!
pre 15 godina
is that all you got serbia, thank you Malaysia and god bless you.
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Thank You Malaysia!
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As things are goings, soon there will be no ambasador of any country in Belgrade. T
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The Serbian government late on Friday notified Malaysian Ambassador Saw Ching Hong that he is no longer welcome in the country.
Mr. Hong is welcome in Kosovo when Malaysia will turn its office into Malaysia Embassy in Pristina and he will be appointed as first Malaysia Ambasador.
Thank you Malaysia. Your recogition is even more importand now then few month ago.
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The Serbian government late on Friday notified Malaysian Ambassador Saw Ching Hong that he is no longer welcome in the country.
Mr. Hong is welcome in Kosovo when Malaysia will turn its office into Malaysia Embassy in Pristina and he will be appointed as first Malaysia Ambasador.
Thank you Malaysia. Your recogition is even more importand now then few month ago.
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As things are goings, soon there will be no ambasador of any country in Belgrade. T
pre 15 godina
Just like the government of my country (Ireland), the Malaysian authorities have bowed to this ridiculous US Regime's demand to recognise the illegally declared independence of the occupied territory of Kosovo i Metohija.
More than most countries, this move might well come back to haunt Kuala Lumpur in the near future.
Instead of behaving in this pathetically frantic escapade of infecting countries' foreign policies, the US Regime should seriously begin to conduct an indepth moral inventory of itself and its actions in the Balkans in the last 15 years and start to make genuine amends to Serbia.
The truth will be exposed for sure. What will these US politicians' children and grandchildren think of them then?
Micheal Breathnach
in Ireland
pre 15 godina
I thought Malaysia was not going to recognise Kosova's independence. At least Mr Jeremic was trying to convince so. I guess some more Asian coutries (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc.) are now going to follow suit...
pre 15 godina
"...as a form of pressure on that tribunal, the statement added."
That is another Serbian joke)
Wasn't Serbia apeal to other undecided country to wait until a decision is made by General Assembly regarding Serbia's request to ICJ?
We all know how the voting went, who voted pro, against and abstain and the reasons behind each country decision.
Serbia has no right to tell another independent country what to do. These times have gone once and for all. Ahhh one more thing. The ambasador will be invited back soon and that is another Serbian joke))
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Gee, B92, no longer posting articles titled "X Country Recognizes Kosovo Independence?" Instead you just post that the country had its ambassador expelled? I guess that's one way to keep Serbian morale high.
Thank you for the recognition, Malaysia. Hopefully soon Pakistan will follow in your footsteps!
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Thank you Malaysia...Well Mr Jeremic more and more vill recognize Kosova , and non of them vill take it bak as you said before.Don'lie to your people Kosova has never been part of serbia and vill never be
God bless Kosova.
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Let's hope this one stays out.
We don't want Serbian government to look like Monty Python team and bring him back in a few days.
I can imagine this will be shrugged off as just another Serbian tantrum. This time, Serbia must stand firm if they wish to have any credibility.
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Visits of Edith Harxhi to Malaysia and Dr Berisha’s to Japan are the few rare occasions of Albanian diplomacy playing a proactive role. It is time that the political leadership of both countries dedicated more time and effort to the international recognition process. Especially Albanian diplomacy, having spent most of the 60s and 70s sponsoring Stalinist and Maoist ideas throughout the world, needs now to focus all its energies in gathering international support for independence.
Appointments of Miss Harxhi as deputy minister of foreign affairs and Crown Prince Leka as a special adviser to the same ministry are very encouraging signs indeed.
In Kosova, Thaci needs to replace Hyseni with Veton Surroi. Would be even better if Surroi replaced Thaci altogether.
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I thought Serbia needs Malaysia.
Oh, I forgot, Russia's gdp income is below Malaysia.
Serbia has no embassy in Malaysia.
It's funny how Serbia thinks that the world spins around its pace. Lol. Milosevic had the same ideology as well. Where is he today?
Isolation on the way!
Btw, what happened to Jeremic' statement "Malaysia won't recognize Kosovo. Malaysia will support Serbia's initiative at ICJ?"..I am curious.
ICJ is a non-biding OPINION. To simplify to those who do not understand legal terminologies, it's like writing an op-ed opinion on the back of a newspaper. Some may read it, some might not even see it or care about it!
Irrelevant!
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Thank You Malaysia!
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is that all you got serbia, thank you Malaysia and god bless you.
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That's really nice Serbia,really nice.Good for you,this might get Kosova back for you.
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They (Malaysians)should have waited for the courts decision / opinion before making this move.
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16 (!) more or less cynical comments by our dear friends clearly show the mental state they are in...
I´d say their desperation must be great when they react in that way, given that Malaysia has earlier said that it will "recognize" the stillborn puppet...
kids, no matter how happy you seem to be, don´t fool yourselves, the ICJ-ruling will certainly not be irrelevant, as some smart-kid pointed out... is is formally not binding, but it is very relevant - you will learn that, I am sure of that.
now go on and send out your gratefulness, but keep in mind, Malaysia (!) did it not for you, but for the US.
they don´t even knew you exist...
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Keep them coming!!!!
Thank you Malaysia!!!!
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thank you malaysia over all ther we go 52
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Who cares whether Malaysia or Timbuktu recognises Kosovo? We all know it is done under pressure and we all know it makes no difference whatsoever to the situation on the ground. This decision is not going to reduce crime, feed the Albanians or improve energy supplies, now is it?
Kosovo is occupied Serbian soil and it is only a matter of time before the occupiers get the boot. The Albanians should start to rebuild bridges with Serbians so they can transition into a self-ruling autonomous region much more peacefully.
Countries like Malaysia are acting irresponsibly when they give Albanians a sense of false hope while also supporting illegal initiatives by failing global dictators.
Peace to all.
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Micheal Breathnach,
Just as we fought for the freedom of Ireland, so did the Kosovars who were subject to Serbian murder, rape, burn - crimes against humanity.
Their freedom is in question, not the American one.
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Realpolitics!
Serbia expells Malayzian Ambassador, but not the British, German or the American one.
It's because Malayzia found that recognizing Kosovo's independence is its national interest, rather than supporting Russia-Serbia line.
On the other hand, Serbia lost the economic/political interests with Malayzia - as this country is more interested in Kosovo. Respectively in EU & U.S.
They know that Kosovo will be an EU country and it may support relations with Malayzia in the future.
So, Montenegro, FYRoM, Malayzia and other non-great powers's Ambassadors will continuously be expelled.
What a diplomatic cheat of the Serbian public opinion!
This game will continue for a decade period!
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thank you, Malaysia, and people all over the world, incl serbia, who support democracy and independence in the balkans.
(roberto, 1 November 2008 16:23)
Roberto,
1) You claim to be "neutral" and successfully wrote "Malaysia" with capital letter and Serbia with small? OK. Than maybe you don't know, there is an obligatory school reading all over Balkans from Ferenc Móra called "Boys from the Pál Street". Originally in Hungarian, it was translated to every language around. The fact, somebody's name is written properly with capital letter or in all small letters became the part of the culture. Same is of course in Hungary. If you are active in the area, please do in Rome as Romans do. Since you are not Serb/Albanian/Hungarian/etc. you are excused this time :)
2) This is probably the first time in decades, the violently anti-Semitic government of Malaysia
http://tinyurl.com/68fhuh
gets any praise from a Jew. You did achieve quite a bit. I do not want to comment on that, but let my tongue to dry out if I would say any praise to Malaysian government until they maintain their stance towards Israel as they do.
To be honest, I was feeling somewhat uneasy that Mr. Jeremic (given his background, as far as I know - I bet, you did not know, right?) did ever meet with any Malaysian representative. But I accepted it, saying, maybe it will bring some use, if more than some milk from a male goat ("Как с козла молоко" in Russian), than it's OK.
Now the Malaysian government turned to be just a bunch of "козёл", so I am not unhappy: finally it's what I expect from them, everything back to normal. I would be much more sad if אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל would recognize Kosovo, but hopefully it won't happen.
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Btw, what happened to Jeremic' statement "Malaysia won't recognize Kosovo. Malaysia will support Serbia's initiative at ICJ?"..I am curious.
(Thomas Jefferson, 1 November 2008 11:20)
Just a sample, how one should trust the government of Malaysia, that's it. We had little personal experiences at a low level. Not a country you want really to live in and their officials are utterly corrupt and stupid on all levels. Plus nightmarish bureaucracy to deal with.
Otherwise ICJ ruling is important to sue governments. Before the ruling it is a high risk. Just in this sample: Serbia suing Malaysia (save USA) will certainly fail and make a precedence (and generate a new wave). On the other hand after a positive ruling the chances to vin a lawsuit are much higher. A single positive ruling will set a precedence and potentially generate a "negative wave". I think, this is what the current Serbian government is about.
As far as the further recognitions: I expect the outgoing administration of bush-criminal to make some more final push here and there and some countries may yield in the last moment. If the current polls are correct and Obama wins, than at least there won't be any pushing for a while.
Same time Serbian government should spare no money for best lobbying where it is the most important, i.e. USA.
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To Breathnach:
"The truth will be exposed for sure. What will these US politicians' children and grandchildren think of them then?"
The truth has been known, despite some Serbs' attempts to hide it. http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/kosovo/cuska/cuska_frameset.html some 10,000 Albanian civilians suffered a similar fate.
Btw: Ireland je English!
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now go on and send out your gratefulness, but keep in mind, Malaysia (!) did it not for you, but for the US.
they don´t even knew you exist...
(Jovan, 1 November 2008 12:01)
Malaysia had it's own issue with Serbia for a while, not recognizing it. They know about Kosovo and their decision is not because they would be US puppet. They have their own corruption/mafia/dirty business issues. It's rather looks like "birds of feather" with Kosovo. Malaysia is pretty much anti-American and Osama has a broad support there. But maybe Ms. Harxhi did a better job than Mr. Jeremic this time.
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Presumably this time around, now that Serbia has expelled the ambassador, Malaysia actually has recognised 'puppet-state's UDI. Doesn't overly matter at this stage of proceedings as trend established since end of February will re-impose itself with a vengeance after Kosovo fades from the headlines.
'betabe' said:
> As things are goings, soon there will be no ambasador of any country in Belgrade. T
You mean just like 'pseudo-state' was supposed to have the numbers to get into the UN by now?
Mark (Shqype):
A few recognitions now, more or less, really is beside the point. As for Pakistan, don't think US's recent violations of it's sovereign territory will be doing much to endear pakistani's to this idea. Shall see in the weeks/months/years ahead.
'EA' said:
> Serbia has no right to tell another independent country what to do.
Hardly see how this statement applies to the article here. Serbia in fact has every right to expel whichever ambassador it chooses too for what is perceived by them to be an unwelcome act.
As for the duration of this & other such actions, wouldn't be taking the case of similiar actions made before GA vote as a guide - given that the countries most important to Serbia are specifically exempted from these actions.
While this is indeed a 'waffle', will nevertheless impose a real 'impost' to those countries who follow suit which, while they may not lose much, will still lose something. And as time goes on & Kosovo status question fades in importance to both US & EU, 'balance's will shift.
'Thomas Jefferson' said:
> ICJ is a non-biding OPINION. To simplify to those who do not understand legal terminologies, it's like writing an op-ed opinion on the back of a newspaper. Some may read it, some might not even see it or care about it!
> Irrelevant!
Non-binding but hardly irrelevant (at least to others) - especially when it comes to possible future punitive legal actions against those countries that have recognised UDI in the event the ICJ rules in Serbia's favour.
And of course, when it comes to recognition reversal should this be the case. But naturally don't expect an ethnic albanian to agree with this viewpoint.
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Expect Egypt to recognize soon.
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This article should have been entitled "Blg regime has yet another tantrum and again shows its true colors." thank you, Malaysia, and people all over the world, incl serbia, who support democracy and independence in the balkans.
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Please Ataman, do tell. We are among friends after all. I promise what you tell me, won’t go beyond the porous walls of this forum.
You have no valid reasons to distrust me, I’m an Albanian and I abide by the ancient Kanun. Vendetta, Oath and Hospitability are trinoms of my life.
On a more serious note, I’m intrigued by the fact that you have access to these high powered places. I hope you are not with secret services.
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I'm surprised how many albanians visit this serbian newsforum. It seems there are more albanian readers here than there are serbian visitors. I wonder how free and domocratic the kosovoalbanian media is when so many of its people turn to their biggest enemy to get their word out and speak their mind. Ironic, is it not?
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Would be even better if Surroi replaced Thaci altogether.
(village-bey, 1 November 2008 08:55)
Can only agree on that. It is in Kosovo interest to clean up their act. As for Malaysia - this is the country which is itself plagued by ethnic issues: Chinese versus Malay. I would not call them a "US puppet state", rather a very corrupt and controverse place. Even few month ago they went as far as NOT RECOGNIZING SERBIAN PASSPORTS(!), somewhat what no other country, even Saudi Arabia did. After that they turned and established diplomatic relations - and few weeks later turned again. Their government deserves all booing for that and many other reasons, too.
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Especially Albanian diplomacy, having spent most of the 60s and 70s sponsoring Stalinist and Maoist ideas throughout the world, needs now to focus all its energies in gathering international support for independence.
(village-bey, 1 November 2008 08:55)
I see some excellent chances in some professional organization(s) dominated by Russia and China(!) - but of course I won't tell. Albanians could carry Kosovo literally on their backs because they are co-founders and Serbia has only observer status - but well... they will 100% miss it and I won't be sad if they do it.
In a different matter several years ago I contacted Albanian authorities regarding their role in that organization. At last, I got e-mail response - but they were completely off.
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I'm considering studying 'independence movements' as part of a Phd. I find this situation to be truly the saddest that I have encountered to date. Its a study in itself.
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It's so depressing to see that after so many months of Kosovo UDI the proud Kosovars have to use Serbian website to express their gratitude to the countries that recognized their "state". That's pretty humiliating! Aren't they capable of creating their own, independent website? Or they are subconsciously admitting they ARE part of Serbia.
To No. 16: For you info, after the night of Halloween, Miosevic is where Thomas Jefferson is and will be.
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"Just a sample, how one should trust the government of Malaysia, that's it. We had little personal experiences at a low level. Not a country you want really to live in and their officials are utterly corrupt and stupid on all levels. Plus nightmarish bureaucracy to deal with".
Ataman by stating this, you clearly show that you think to may judge other countries with the support of reading the internet, though you have never been there yourself. As you said: they don't recognize Serbian passports.
It is the example of aggressivity in defence like some of the Serbian contributors in this forum have.
Look to the international reports about your own country according: corruption, Mafia, drug-trafficking, killing journalists etc. "Not a country you want really live in" and the Serbian intelligencia is eager to leave this country!!
I think you have brought some smarter comments in the past!!
cees
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"though you have never been there yourself. As you said: they don't recognize Serbian passports."
(cees, 1 November 2008 14:22)
Cees, I am NOT SERB. I never had YU citizenship (any part of it or whole). I do NOT speak Serbian well, only understand it to a good degree. My name sounds like I am from Scotland, but I am not native English speaker. I speak perfectly, without any accent both Russian and Hungarian. Also some other languages. I like always to underscore, this web site is not about my person and I am reluctant to tell more. It has nothing to do with Albanians or Serbs. C'est la vie.
Intelligentsia leaving the country is nothing new in the entire Central Europe. I am pretty familiar with the situation in Hungary. What you wrote about (presumably) Serbia can apply to the whole region. A good part of the blame goes to stupid "Western" politicians.
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Serbia expels Malaysian ambassador:
Wow, who's next?. Don't get me wrong but this is very inappropriate from serbia, guess what the rest of the East Asian countries will follow and by the time ICJ makes the formal and final statement there will be 100+ countries who have recognized and established diplomatic relations with the Republic Of Kosova.
You see there are many consequences for these inappropriate actions from Belgrade which will have a negative impact in the future.
When Montenegro and Macedonia accepted Kosova's Independence and it's passports there was nothing else remaining to be done. It's only Serbia in the region who's to follow it's neighbours and make the recognition of Kosova official.
The Malaysian ambassador leaves Serbia and he doesn't have to go back to his country, instead he'll fly or drive south to Prishtina where he's named again an ambassador to Kosova.
Pakistan is next and they'll do so before x-mass.
Wake up Serbia because it's time to agree with the reality in the region. It would be a very wise thing to do.
Kosova is being recognized quicker than all former Yugoslav Republics.
Can anyone tell me what you expect from ICJ after all.
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The only surprise is that Islamic Malaysia took so long to do it. Their interest on this is to undermine international law. They are interested in a land grab in Southern Thailand - supporting a rebel guerilla movement down there. The erosion of international law is in their interest.
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Village-Bey,
Unfortunately for average traveler these places aren't high at all (anymore). I contacted HSH at the time they had web site. Now they are gone. The reason was very obscure and had to do with some boring multiplication factors of some boring tariff.
They answered within few hours - but from the response it was clear, they have absolutely no clout what they are doing or supposed to do. In the meantime they seem to have very-very serious issues on their own. Their web site is down and I heard many bad news (lay-offs, etc).
This used to be their web site: http://www.hsh.com.al
If not that wouldn't be the case, many people would come to Tirana or Pristina to buy certain tickets. A completely legitimate business and a great way to work around some nightmare bureaucracy in Russia and China. That was the main reason I asked. But no, no way. And guess what, it was possible during Enver Hoxha.
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There are news that Egypt will follow shortly.
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'Serbians and Israelite citizens, were the only ones...'
i say we're in mighty fine company then :) and medinat y is of course not recognizing the abomination. medinat y is smart.
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Ask an ordinary person on the street in Britain where Kosovo or Albania is they wouldnt have a clue. The West has always looked at the Balkans as a poor and udesirable relative hence they sent second-rate politicians with dubious biographies such as Paddy Ashdown and Robin Cook to sort out the mess. Little wonder then that we have come to this shambolic situation that we have today.The only beacon of hope is that the world sees the back of the utterly dispecible and corrupt Bush regime which has been selling
false dreams of "independence" and "freedom" to the gullable.
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Well, at the end of the day, everyone knows (but will not say so publicly) that only 2 recognitions ultimately counts -- Moscow's and Beijing's. But don't hold your breaths for these to happen anytime soon, if ever!
Meanwhile Belgrade can claim that Kuala Lumpur doesn't matter and Pristina can pretend that it is happy to be outside the UN.
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The Serbian government late on Friday notified Malaysian Ambassador Saw Ching Hong that he is no longer welcome in the country.
Dont worry he is gona be back like the other ambassadors.
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and again, an important part of my comment was censored...
I´d love to find out which part of it was the trigger ...the word illyrian illusion or the word inferiority complex...?
as for Brian, you should rather stick to facts, than to mere accusations... while you talk of mass rape (! - is that something that is in the back of your head??? as far as we all know, there were no mass rapes in Kosovo, but anyway, interestingly enough you are saying a lot about yourself with that accusation. )
more than 150 destroyed orthodox churches (!) are proof enough of what is going on in Kosovo... and these are not stupid accusations but hard facts.
kind regards to Ireland,
although I doubt that "Brian" is a real irish person...
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""""Who cares whether Malaysia or Timbuktu recognises Kosovo? We all know it is done under pressure and we all know it makes no difference whatsoever to the situation on the ground. This decision is not going to reduce crime, feed the Albanians or improve energy supplies, now is it? ""
I totally agree. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirghistan etc have not recognized Kosovo. This is the most important thing. Malaysia is a puppet country :)
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I found your approach of the country very offensive, which went contrary to my positive feelings toward the very friendly people.
(cees, 1 November 2008 20:47)
Cees, did I say anything bad about Malaysian people? I did bash their government, but not the people.
And I really reject the position of Malaysian government regarding Israel and Jewish people. This is a major disgrace. The corruption at the government's level is an other well-known problem.
BTW: my wife was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. I can't scan her passport at this moment because she's in Hungary and I am in Serbia at this moment but in few weeks if you want...
Enough said? ;)
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to "cees":
since you seem to come from/ live in a country where anti-serbian sentiments were taught via tv for many years, I do not take it as an offense, but nevertheless, I´d like to point out to you that there is no "new country" in which "institutions" the Serbs should try to integrate...
quite absurd, that thought, indeed.
you know, perhaps you didn´t think about it thoroughly, but even compared with "western standards" there is a little bit more to a real country than to simply claim it.
since there is no legitimate act of foundation... I do not see how you can even think of a "new country"...
better call it a stillborn puppet entity, because that´s what it actually is.
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FYI (to serbians)
Serbians and Israelite citizens, were the only ones that couldnt enter in Malaysia. No passport and no visa was valid (of course Jeremic could go, cuz he has diplomatic passport)
i want to say that Malaysia was aware of Kosovo always
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I am sorry Ataman, I noticed your Hungarian background, but thought that you are living in the Vojvodina, that would mean to me that you would be a Serbian citizen.
I visited Malaysia twice and liked the country very much, because it has such a variation of peoples, with a big contrast between the (more Chinese) west-coast and the (Malayan) Muslim east-coast.
I found your approach of the country very offensive, which went contrary to my positive feelings toward the very friendly people.
Compared to my experiences with some Serbs in Mitrovica, I would preferably live in Malaysia.
They like Europeans opposite to the Serbs living in Kosovo's northern part. Their (self?)-isolation is dangerous, especially for the stability of the region in general. I am afraid that the pent-up aggression will have an outbreak, which can't be controled by any party, playing a role in that part: nor Belgrade, nor EULEX, nor UNMIK and certainly not Pristina. None of them is telling honestly what the future will bring to the Serbians in Kosovo. They still think - supported by the Belgrade gvt. - that they can choose themselves, which is an illusion and will end in a desillusion. They feel it, but are too insure to make the final step: be part of a new country and fight for your rights within the new institutions. The outcome would be much more positive for them.
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Don't worry Serbian people. The Malaysian embassy will move toward Kosovo. If someone is planing to travell to this country they can apply in Prishtina or the Malaysian authorities will open any liaisson office in Belgrade. So you could do over there also.
Now the next step and the most important one is that Serbian people will recognize the Kosovo multilateral Declaration of Independence, since over there live albanians, serbians, turkish....
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With permision can i use a Serb site beeing the (enemy)?.
(pleurat, 2 November 2008 19:26)
Hope, you are joking. I am not sure where is the humor and what is serious. If you are joking, than my answer is: we are not B92 - but both Serbs and Albanians have such "friends", that a fair enemy is always a relief and is welcome.
If you said it seriously, this is sad because why do you nurture an enemy picture? Maybe try to get rid of it.
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What are you going to do with russian ambassador?
I know you are going to call malaysian ambassador again.
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B92 is not my enemy.In most part as far as i can understand it reports current problems in our regions.I first started commenting my opinion a few months ago on this site after i had red some of your comments and quite frankly i could not resist to give you an answer beeing your (enemy).Take it also as a means of enlightment that you can benefit from.With permision can i use a Serb site beeing the (enemy)?.
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medinat y is smart.
(smile, 2 November 2008 18:11)
This is of course beyond any doubt. :)
And beg you pardon, of course, MEDINAT Y, all in capital letters. :)
But they are in an situation without any parallel. In the fact, USA won't dare to push them over such triviality as Kosovo.
Not sure, is it known or not, but Medvedev publicly told, he is ready to take second citizenship because of his wife. He is one of the many who did not listen to tudjman (all small letters, of course).
Also funny, how Russia did deal with the captured "experts" from Me-Yi in Georgia:
"OK guys, please don't do it next time"
"OK, OK, we won't" (experts sent back from Russia to Me-Yi, issue quickly closed).
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Ataman,
I think pleurat's comment will make more sense to you if you read MikeC's comment #42. I believe it was in response to it.
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Pathetic, immature, and amateurish diplomacy in line with the "state policy."
This looks like school suspension handed to an unruly child by a freaked-out principal. That in turn, makes the Belgrade government look ridiculously inept and regrettably short-sighted. What is the FM going to tell his Malaysian counterpart in two months? "Sorry and welcome back?" It's sad and pathetic!
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I could not resist answering to the last two posts.
One states that Kosovo issue is a trivality,and the other one states that Pady Ashdown and the late Robin Cook are second hand politicians.
The Kosovo issue is the (or rather was the) main national issue of the Albanians.The issue that nearly trigered the third WW.
The issue that not solved the way is being solved could drag not only Balkans but Europe and probably the World,in endless conflict.
As for Robin Cook having being a second hand politician,then really I am surprised that you find the time to write politicaly oriented opinions.
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It really makes no diference who recognises Kosovo now. Another 50 countries can recognise it but the fact remains the world is in or about to enter a major recession and not just a hiccup. This means that foreign funding and investment will not go overseas and especially to quasi-states let alone UN accepted poor states. This means that states like Serbia and to a greater extent Kosovo people will have no work but the further Kosovo moves from Serbia the less the likelihood of Kosovo actually developing. As much as the Albanian jokers on this website profess- Kosovo cannot do without Serbia and the EU are not about to start government handouts and private investors are not going to squander cash on uncertain bets. Despite what those jokers in the Pristina govt tell you- things are only going to get worse. They don't care- they have siphoned off what they can just as all the independence leaders in most other movements in the Balkans have and elsewhere in the world do. Serbia needs to start appealing to the loyal ALbanians of Kosovo of which I'm sure there are plenty of- despite the childish comments of Albanians here who live in comfort in the west. Its about burek on the table and not guns.
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I referred to Mr Cook as second-rate, not "second hand" but an intresting Freudian slip on your behalf nevertheless.On a more serious note though, the statement that the Kosovo issue nearly sparked World War III can only be described as illusions of grandeur.
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The Serbian government late on Friday notified Malaysian Ambassador Saw Ching Hong that he is no longer welcome in the country.
Mr. Hong is welcome in Kosovo when Malaysia will turn its office into Malaysia Embassy in Pristina and he will be appointed as first Malaysia Ambasador.
Thank you Malaysia. Your recogition is even more importand now then few month ago.
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Thank You Malaysia!
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Just like the government of my country (Ireland), the Malaysian authorities have bowed to this ridiculous US Regime's demand to recognise the illegally declared independence of the occupied territory of Kosovo i Metohija.
More than most countries, this move might well come back to haunt Kuala Lumpur in the near future.
Instead of behaving in this pathetically frantic escapade of infecting countries' foreign policies, the US Regime should seriously begin to conduct an indepth moral inventory of itself and its actions in the Balkans in the last 15 years and start to make genuine amends to Serbia.
The truth will be exposed for sure. What will these US politicians' children and grandchildren think of them then?
Micheal Breathnach
in Ireland
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Keep them coming!!!!
Thank you Malaysia!!!!
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Gee, B92, no longer posting articles titled "X Country Recognizes Kosovo Independence?" Instead you just post that the country had its ambassador expelled? I guess that's one way to keep Serbian morale high.
Thank you for the recognition, Malaysia. Hopefully soon Pakistan will follow in your footsteps!
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As things are goings, soon there will be no ambasador of any country in Belgrade. T
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is that all you got serbia, thank you Malaysia and god bless you.
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thank you malaysia over all ther we go 52
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Thank you Malaysia...Well Mr Jeremic more and more vill recognize Kosova , and non of them vill take it bak as you said before.Don'lie to your people Kosova has never been part of serbia and vill never be
God bless Kosova.
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I thought Malaysia was not going to recognise Kosova's independence. At least Mr Jeremic was trying to convince so. I guess some more Asian coutries (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc.) are now going to follow suit...
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I thought Serbia needs Malaysia.
Oh, I forgot, Russia's gdp income is below Malaysia.
Serbia has no embassy in Malaysia.
It's funny how Serbia thinks that the world spins around its pace. Lol. Milosevic had the same ideology as well. Where is he today?
Isolation on the way!
Btw, what happened to Jeremic' statement "Malaysia won't recognize Kosovo. Malaysia will support Serbia's initiative at ICJ?"..I am curious.
ICJ is a non-biding OPINION. To simplify to those who do not understand legal terminologies, it's like writing an op-ed opinion on the back of a newspaper. Some may read it, some might not even see it or care about it!
Irrelevant!
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"...as a form of pressure on that tribunal, the statement added."
That is another Serbian joke)
Wasn't Serbia apeal to other undecided country to wait until a decision is made by General Assembly regarding Serbia's request to ICJ?
We all know how the voting went, who voted pro, against and abstain and the reasons behind each country decision.
Serbia has no right to tell another independent country what to do. These times have gone once and for all. Ahhh one more thing. The ambasador will be invited back soon and that is another Serbian joke))
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Realpolitics!
Serbia expells Malayzian Ambassador, but not the British, German or the American one.
It's because Malayzia found that recognizing Kosovo's independence is its national interest, rather than supporting Russia-Serbia line.
On the other hand, Serbia lost the economic/political interests with Malayzia - as this country is more interested in Kosovo. Respectively in EU & U.S.
They know that Kosovo will be an EU country and it may support relations with Malayzia in the future.
So, Montenegro, FYRoM, Malayzia and other non-great powers's Ambassadors will continuously be expelled.
What a diplomatic cheat of the Serbian public opinion!
This game will continue for a decade period!
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That's really nice Serbia,really nice.Good for you,this might get Kosova back for you.
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Let's hope this one stays out.
We don't want Serbian government to look like Monty Python team and bring him back in a few days.
I can imagine this will be shrugged off as just another Serbian tantrum. This time, Serbia must stand firm if they wish to have any credibility.
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Visits of Edith Harxhi to Malaysia and Dr Berisha’s to Japan are the few rare occasions of Albanian diplomacy playing a proactive role. It is time that the political leadership of both countries dedicated more time and effort to the international recognition process. Especially Albanian diplomacy, having spent most of the 60s and 70s sponsoring Stalinist and Maoist ideas throughout the world, needs now to focus all its energies in gathering international support for independence.
Appointments of Miss Harxhi as deputy minister of foreign affairs and Crown Prince Leka as a special adviser to the same ministry are very encouraging signs indeed.
In Kosova, Thaci needs to replace Hyseni with Veton Surroi. Would be even better if Surroi replaced Thaci altogether.
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Who cares whether Malaysia or Timbuktu recognises Kosovo? We all know it is done under pressure and we all know it makes no difference whatsoever to the situation on the ground. This decision is not going to reduce crime, feed the Albanians or improve energy supplies, now is it?
Kosovo is occupied Serbian soil and it is only a matter of time before the occupiers get the boot. The Albanians should start to rebuild bridges with Serbians so they can transition into a self-ruling autonomous region much more peacefully.
Countries like Malaysia are acting irresponsibly when they give Albanians a sense of false hope while also supporting illegal initiatives by failing global dictators.
Peace to all.
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They (Malaysians)should have waited for the courts decision / opinion before making this move.
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16 (!) more or less cynical comments by our dear friends clearly show the mental state they are in...
I´d say their desperation must be great when they react in that way, given that Malaysia has earlier said that it will "recognize" the stillborn puppet...
kids, no matter how happy you seem to be, don´t fool yourselves, the ICJ-ruling will certainly not be irrelevant, as some smart-kid pointed out... is is formally not binding, but it is very relevant - you will learn that, I am sure of that.
now go on and send out your gratefulness, but keep in mind, Malaysia (!) did it not for you, but for the US.
they don´t even knew you exist...
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Would be even better if Surroi replaced Thaci altogether.
(village-bey, 1 November 2008 08:55)
Can only agree on that. It is in Kosovo interest to clean up their act. As for Malaysia - this is the country which is itself plagued by ethnic issues: Chinese versus Malay. I would not call them a "US puppet state", rather a very corrupt and controverse place. Even few month ago they went as far as NOT RECOGNIZING SERBIAN PASSPORTS(!), somewhat what no other country, even Saudi Arabia did. After that they turned and established diplomatic relations - and few weeks later turned again. Their government deserves all booing for that and many other reasons, too.
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Especially Albanian diplomacy, having spent most of the 60s and 70s sponsoring Stalinist and Maoist ideas throughout the world, needs now to focus all its energies in gathering international support for independence.
(village-bey, 1 November 2008 08:55)
I see some excellent chances in some professional organization(s) dominated by Russia and China(!) - but of course I won't tell. Albanians could carry Kosovo literally on their backs because they are co-founders and Serbia has only observer status - but well... they will 100% miss it and I won't be sad if they do it.
In a different matter several years ago I contacted Albanian authorities regarding their role in that organization. At last, I got e-mail response - but they were completely off.
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Btw, what happened to Jeremic' statement "Malaysia won't recognize Kosovo. Malaysia will support Serbia's initiative at ICJ?"..I am curious.
(Thomas Jefferson, 1 November 2008 11:20)
Just a sample, how one should trust the government of Malaysia, that's it. We had little personal experiences at a low level. Not a country you want really to live in and their officials are utterly corrupt and stupid on all levels. Plus nightmarish bureaucracy to deal with.
Otherwise ICJ ruling is important to sue governments. Before the ruling it is a high risk. Just in this sample: Serbia suing Malaysia (save USA) will certainly fail and make a precedence (and generate a new wave). On the other hand after a positive ruling the chances to vin a lawsuit are much higher. A single positive ruling will set a precedence and potentially generate a "negative wave". I think, this is what the current Serbian government is about.
As far as the further recognitions: I expect the outgoing administration of bush-criminal to make some more final push here and there and some countries may yield in the last moment. If the current polls are correct and Obama wins, than at least there won't be any pushing for a while.
Same time Serbian government should spare no money for best lobbying where it is the most important, i.e. USA.
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Presumably this time around, now that Serbia has expelled the ambassador, Malaysia actually has recognised 'puppet-state's UDI. Doesn't overly matter at this stage of proceedings as trend established since end of February will re-impose itself with a vengeance after Kosovo fades from the headlines.
'betabe' said:
> As things are goings, soon there will be no ambasador of any country in Belgrade. T
You mean just like 'pseudo-state' was supposed to have the numbers to get into the UN by now?
Mark (Shqype):
A few recognitions now, more or less, really is beside the point. As for Pakistan, don't think US's recent violations of it's sovereign territory will be doing much to endear pakistani's to this idea. Shall see in the weeks/months/years ahead.
'EA' said:
> Serbia has no right to tell another independent country what to do.
Hardly see how this statement applies to the article here. Serbia in fact has every right to expel whichever ambassador it chooses too for what is perceived by them to be an unwelcome act.
As for the duration of this & other such actions, wouldn't be taking the case of similiar actions made before GA vote as a guide - given that the countries most important to Serbia are specifically exempted from these actions.
While this is indeed a 'waffle', will nevertheless impose a real 'impost' to those countries who follow suit which, while they may not lose much, will still lose something. And as time goes on & Kosovo status question fades in importance to both US & EU, 'balance's will shift.
'Thomas Jefferson' said:
> ICJ is a non-biding OPINION. To simplify to those who do not understand legal terminologies, it's like writing an op-ed opinion on the back of a newspaper. Some may read it, some might not even see it or care about it!
> Irrelevant!
Non-binding but hardly irrelevant (at least to others) - especially when it comes to possible future punitive legal actions against those countries that have recognised UDI in the event the ICJ rules in Serbia's favour.
And of course, when it comes to recognition reversal should this be the case. But naturally don't expect an ethnic albanian to agree with this viewpoint.
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To Breathnach:
"The truth will be exposed for sure. What will these US politicians' children and grandchildren think of them then?"
The truth has been known, despite some Serbs' attempts to hide it. http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/kosovo/cuska/cuska_frameset.html some 10,000 Albanian civilians suffered a similar fate.
Btw: Ireland je English!
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"though you have never been there yourself. As you said: they don't recognize Serbian passports."
(cees, 1 November 2008 14:22)
Cees, I am NOT SERB. I never had YU citizenship (any part of it or whole). I do NOT speak Serbian well, only understand it to a good degree. My name sounds like I am from Scotland, but I am not native English speaker. I speak perfectly, without any accent both Russian and Hungarian. Also some other languages. I like always to underscore, this web site is not about my person and I am reluctant to tell more. It has nothing to do with Albanians or Serbs. C'est la vie.
Intelligentsia leaving the country is nothing new in the entire Central Europe. I am pretty familiar with the situation in Hungary. What you wrote about (presumably) Serbia can apply to the whole region. A good part of the blame goes to stupid "Western" politicians.
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I am sorry Ataman, I noticed your Hungarian background, but thought that you are living in the Vojvodina, that would mean to me that you would be a Serbian citizen.
I visited Malaysia twice and liked the country very much, because it has such a variation of peoples, with a big contrast between the (more Chinese) west-coast and the (Malayan) Muslim east-coast.
I found your approach of the country very offensive, which went contrary to my positive feelings toward the very friendly people.
Compared to my experiences with some Serbs in Mitrovica, I would preferably live in Malaysia.
They like Europeans opposite to the Serbs living in Kosovo's northern part. Their (self?)-isolation is dangerous, especially for the stability of the region in general. I am afraid that the pent-up aggression will have an outbreak, which can't be controled by any party, playing a role in that part: nor Belgrade, nor EULEX, nor UNMIK and certainly not Pristina. None of them is telling honestly what the future will bring to the Serbians in Kosovo. They still think - supported by the Belgrade gvt. - that they can choose themselves, which is an illusion and will end in a desillusion. They feel it, but are too insure to make the final step: be part of a new country and fight for your rights within the new institutions. The outcome would be much more positive for them.
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and again, an important part of my comment was censored...
I´d love to find out which part of it was the trigger ...the word illyrian illusion or the word inferiority complex...?
as for Brian, you should rather stick to facts, than to mere accusations... while you talk of mass rape (! - is that something that is in the back of your head??? as far as we all know, there were no mass rapes in Kosovo, but anyway, interestingly enough you are saying a lot about yourself with that accusation. )
more than 150 destroyed orthodox churches (!) are proof enough of what is going on in Kosovo... and these are not stupid accusations but hard facts.
kind regards to Ireland,
although I doubt that "Brian" is a real irish person...
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Ask an ordinary person on the street in Britain where Kosovo or Albania is they wouldnt have a clue. The West has always looked at the Balkans as a poor and udesirable relative hence they sent second-rate politicians with dubious biographies such as Paddy Ashdown and Robin Cook to sort out the mess. Little wonder then that we have come to this shambolic situation that we have today.The only beacon of hope is that the world sees the back of the utterly dispecible and corrupt Bush regime which has been selling
false dreams of "independence" and "freedom" to the gullable.
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Well, at the end of the day, everyone knows (but will not say so publicly) that only 2 recognitions ultimately counts -- Moscow's and Beijing's. But don't hold your breaths for these to happen anytime soon, if ever!
Meanwhile Belgrade can claim that Kuala Lumpur doesn't matter and Pristina can pretend that it is happy to be outside the UN.
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It's so depressing to see that after so many months of Kosovo UDI the proud Kosovars have to use Serbian website to express their gratitude to the countries that recognized their "state". That's pretty humiliating! Aren't they capable of creating their own, independent website? Or they are subconsciously admitting they ARE part of Serbia.
To No. 16: For you info, after the night of Halloween, Miosevic is where Thomas Jefferson is and will be.
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"Just a sample, how one should trust the government of Malaysia, that's it. We had little personal experiences at a low level. Not a country you want really to live in and their officials are utterly corrupt and stupid on all levels. Plus nightmarish bureaucracy to deal with".
Ataman by stating this, you clearly show that you think to may judge other countries with the support of reading the internet, though you have never been there yourself. As you said: they don't recognize Serbian passports.
It is the example of aggressivity in defence like some of the Serbian contributors in this forum have.
Look to the international reports about your own country according: corruption, Mafia, drug-trafficking, killing journalists etc. "Not a country you want really live in" and the Serbian intelligencia is eager to leave this country!!
I think you have brought some smarter comments in the past!!
cees
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Expect Egypt to recognize soon.
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to "cees":
since you seem to come from/ live in a country where anti-serbian sentiments were taught via tv for many years, I do not take it as an offense, but nevertheless, I´d like to point out to you that there is no "new country" in which "institutions" the Serbs should try to integrate...
quite absurd, that thought, indeed.
you know, perhaps you didn´t think about it thoroughly, but even compared with "western standards" there is a little bit more to a real country than to simply claim it.
since there is no legitimate act of foundation... I do not see how you can even think of a "new country"...
better call it a stillborn puppet entity, because that´s what it actually is.
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Micheal Breathnach,
Just as we fought for the freedom of Ireland, so did the Kosovars who were subject to Serbian murder, rape, burn - crimes against humanity.
Their freedom is in question, not the American one.
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'Serbians and Israelite citizens, were the only ones...'
i say we're in mighty fine company then :) and medinat y is of course not recognizing the abomination. medinat y is smart.
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medinat y is smart.
(smile, 2 November 2008 18:11)
This is of course beyond any doubt. :)
And beg you pardon, of course, MEDINAT Y, all in capital letters. :)
But they are in an situation without any parallel. In the fact, USA won't dare to push them over such triviality as Kosovo.
Not sure, is it known or not, but Medvedev publicly told, he is ready to take second citizenship because of his wife. He is one of the many who did not listen to tudjman (all small letters, of course).
Also funny, how Russia did deal with the captured "experts" from Me-Yi in Georgia:
"OK guys, please don't do it next time"
"OK, OK, we won't" (experts sent back from Russia to Me-Yi, issue quickly closed).
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With permision can i use a Serb site beeing the (enemy)?.
(pleurat, 2 November 2008 19:26)
Hope, you are joking. I am not sure where is the humor and what is serious. If you are joking, than my answer is: we are not B92 - but both Serbs and Albanians have such "friends", that a fair enemy is always a relief and is welcome.
If you said it seriously, this is sad because why do you nurture an enemy picture? Maybe try to get rid of it.
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now go on and send out your gratefulness, but keep in mind, Malaysia (!) did it not for you, but for the US.
they don´t even knew you exist...
(Jovan, 1 November 2008 12:01)
Malaysia had it's own issue with Serbia for a while, not recognizing it. They know about Kosovo and their decision is not because they would be US puppet. They have their own corruption/mafia/dirty business issues. It's rather looks like "birds of feather" with Kosovo. Malaysia is pretty much anti-American and Osama has a broad support there. But maybe Ms. Harxhi did a better job than Mr. Jeremic this time.
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""""Who cares whether Malaysia or Timbuktu recognises Kosovo? We all know it is done under pressure and we all know it makes no difference whatsoever to the situation on the ground. This decision is not going to reduce crime, feed the Albanians or improve energy supplies, now is it? ""
I totally agree. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirghistan etc have not recognized Kosovo. This is the most important thing. Malaysia is a puppet country :)
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This article should have been entitled "Blg regime has yet another tantrum and again shows its true colors." thank you, Malaysia, and people all over the world, incl serbia, who support democracy and independence in the balkans.
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Please Ataman, do tell. We are among friends after all. I promise what you tell me, won’t go beyond the porous walls of this forum.
You have no valid reasons to distrust me, I’m an Albanian and I abide by the ancient Kanun. Vendetta, Oath and Hospitability are trinoms of my life.
On a more serious note, I’m intrigued by the fact that you have access to these high powered places. I hope you are not with secret services.
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thank you, Malaysia, and people all over the world, incl serbia, who support democracy and independence in the balkans.
(roberto, 1 November 2008 16:23)
Roberto,
1) You claim to be "neutral" and successfully wrote "Malaysia" with capital letter and Serbia with small? OK. Than maybe you don't know, there is an obligatory school reading all over Balkans from Ferenc Móra called "Boys from the Pál Street". Originally in Hungarian, it was translated to every language around. The fact, somebody's name is written properly with capital letter or in all small letters became the part of the culture. Same is of course in Hungary. If you are active in the area, please do in Rome as Romans do. Since you are not Serb/Albanian/Hungarian/etc. you are excused this time :)
2) This is probably the first time in decades, the violently anti-Semitic government of Malaysia
http://tinyurl.com/68fhuh
gets any praise from a Jew. You did achieve quite a bit. I do not want to comment on that, but let my tongue to dry out if I would say any praise to Malaysian government until they maintain their stance towards Israel as they do.
To be honest, I was feeling somewhat uneasy that Mr. Jeremic (given his background, as far as I know - I bet, you did not know, right?) did ever meet with any Malaysian representative. But I accepted it, saying, maybe it will bring some use, if more than some milk from a male goat ("Как с козла молоко" in Russian), than it's OK.
Now the Malaysian government turned to be just a bunch of "козёл", so I am not unhappy: finally it's what I expect from them, everything back to normal. I would be much more sad if אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל would recognize Kosovo, but hopefully it won't happen.
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The Serbian government late on Friday notified Malaysian Ambassador Saw Ching Hong that he is no longer welcome in the country.
Dont worry he is gona be back like the other ambassadors.
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What are you going to do with russian ambassador?
I know you are going to call malaysian ambassador again.
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Pathetic, immature, and amateurish diplomacy in line with the "state policy."
This looks like school suspension handed to an unruly child by a freaked-out principal. That in turn, makes the Belgrade government look ridiculously inept and regrettably short-sighted. What is the FM going to tell his Malaysian counterpart in two months? "Sorry and welcome back?" It's sad and pathetic!
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Village-Bey,
Unfortunately for average traveler these places aren't high at all (anymore). I contacted HSH at the time they had web site. Now they are gone. The reason was very obscure and had to do with some boring multiplication factors of some boring tariff.
They answered within few hours - but from the response it was clear, they have absolutely no clout what they are doing or supposed to do. In the meantime they seem to have very-very serious issues on their own. Their web site is down and I heard many bad news (lay-offs, etc).
This used to be their web site: http://www.hsh.com.al
If not that wouldn't be the case, many people would come to Tirana or Pristina to buy certain tickets. A completely legitimate business and a great way to work around some nightmare bureaucracy in Russia and China. That was the main reason I asked. But no, no way. And guess what, it was possible during Enver Hoxha.
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I found your approach of the country very offensive, which went contrary to my positive feelings toward the very friendly people.
(cees, 1 November 2008 20:47)
Cees, did I say anything bad about Malaysian people? I did bash their government, but not the people.
And I really reject the position of Malaysian government regarding Israel and Jewish people. This is a major disgrace. The corruption at the government's level is an other well-known problem.
BTW: my wife was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. I can't scan her passport at this moment because she's in Hungary and I am in Serbia at this moment but in few weeks if you want...
Enough said? ;)
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Serbia expels Malaysian ambassador:
Wow, who's next?. Don't get me wrong but this is very inappropriate from serbia, guess what the rest of the East Asian countries will follow and by the time ICJ makes the formal and final statement there will be 100+ countries who have recognized and established diplomatic relations with the Republic Of Kosova.
You see there are many consequences for these inappropriate actions from Belgrade which will have a negative impact in the future.
When Montenegro and Macedonia accepted Kosova's Independence and it's passports there was nothing else remaining to be done. It's only Serbia in the region who's to follow it's neighbours and make the recognition of Kosova official.
The Malaysian ambassador leaves Serbia and he doesn't have to go back to his country, instead he'll fly or drive south to Prishtina where he's named again an ambassador to Kosova.
Pakistan is next and they'll do so before x-mass.
Wake up Serbia because it's time to agree with the reality in the region. It would be a very wise thing to do.
Kosova is being recognized quicker than all former Yugoslav Republics.
Can anyone tell me what you expect from ICJ after all.
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I'm considering studying 'independence movements' as part of a Phd. I find this situation to be truly the saddest that I have encountered to date. Its a study in itself.
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The only surprise is that Islamic Malaysia took so long to do it. Their interest on this is to undermine international law. They are interested in a land grab in Southern Thailand - supporting a rebel guerilla movement down there. The erosion of international law is in their interest.
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I'm surprised how many albanians visit this serbian newsforum. It seems there are more albanian readers here than there are serbian visitors. I wonder how free and domocratic the kosovoalbanian media is when so many of its people turn to their biggest enemy to get their word out and speak their mind. Ironic, is it not?
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Don't worry Serbian people. The Malaysian embassy will move toward Kosovo. If someone is planing to travell to this country they can apply in Prishtina or the Malaysian authorities will open any liaisson office in Belgrade. So you could do over there also.
Now the next step and the most important one is that Serbian people will recognize the Kosovo multilateral Declaration of Independence, since over there live albanians, serbians, turkish....
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FYI (to serbians)
Serbians and Israelite citizens, were the only ones that couldnt enter in Malaysia. No passport and no visa was valid (of course Jeremic could go, cuz he has diplomatic passport)
i want to say that Malaysia was aware of Kosovo always
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There are news that Egypt will follow shortly.
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B92 is not my enemy.In most part as far as i can understand it reports current problems in our regions.I first started commenting my opinion a few months ago on this site after i had red some of your comments and quite frankly i could not resist to give you an answer beeing your (enemy).Take it also as a means of enlightment that you can benefit from.With permision can i use a Serb site beeing the (enemy)?.
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Ataman,
I think pleurat's comment will make more sense to you if you read MikeC's comment #42. I believe it was in response to it.
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I could not resist answering to the last two posts.
One states that Kosovo issue is a trivality,and the other one states that Pady Ashdown and the late Robin Cook are second hand politicians.
The Kosovo issue is the (or rather was the) main national issue of the Albanians.The issue that nearly trigered the third WW.
The issue that not solved the way is being solved could drag not only Balkans but Europe and probably the World,in endless conflict.
As for Robin Cook having being a second hand politician,then really I am surprised that you find the time to write politicaly oriented opinions.
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It really makes no diference who recognises Kosovo now. Another 50 countries can recognise it but the fact remains the world is in or about to enter a major recession and not just a hiccup. This means that foreign funding and investment will not go overseas and especially to quasi-states let alone UN accepted poor states. This means that states like Serbia and to a greater extent Kosovo people will have no work but the further Kosovo moves from Serbia the less the likelihood of Kosovo actually developing. As much as the Albanian jokers on this website profess- Kosovo cannot do without Serbia and the EU are not about to start government handouts and private investors are not going to squander cash on uncertain bets. Despite what those jokers in the Pristina govt tell you- things are only going to get worse. They don't care- they have siphoned off what they can just as all the independence leaders in most other movements in the Balkans have and elsewhere in the world do. Serbia needs to start appealing to the loyal ALbanians of Kosovo of which I'm sure there are plenty of- despite the childish comments of Albanians here who live in comfort in the west. Its about burek on the table and not guns.
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I referred to Mr Cook as second-rate, not "second hand" but an intresting Freudian slip on your behalf nevertheless.On a more serious note though, the statement that the Kosovo issue nearly sparked World War III can only be described as illusions of grandeur.
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