Tadić: EULEX compromise possible

Visible signs of Tadic's & co capitulation.

Mr Tadic knows that Serbia, throughout its history, never won anything diplomatically or peacefully, but ALWAYS through despicable use of force through shameful wars that caused several nations to suffer enourmously. Just look at former Yugoslav nations in 1990s.

Naturally, nobody wants to be with Serbia, and all Yugo countries recognised Kosovo.

Does this ring a bell???

Slowly slowly..everything seems to go according to the plan...

“Anyone who finds fault with these principles has a problem with logic. There are political parties that are trying to fool Serbian citizens and ‘guarantee’ that EULEX will implement independence in Kosovo.” Tadić said.
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Oh what a fool Tadić is. Firstly the whole idea of Kosovo independence was to take it off the international agenda and to Europeanise it, where most EU members either supported it or were arm twisted into recognition.

It is Feith who has constantly repeated that this EU mission will implement the Ahtisaari Plan so why would Tadić now blame political parties for having that idea?

Finally, he is even a bigger fool for believing those liars. UNSC resolution 1244 guaranteed Serbia's territorial integrity and look what they did. They promised a final solution based on autonomy but are now pushing for independence. Once this EU mission is in, they will make their own rules up.

If he wanted to push for something it should be the return of Serbian police back into the province as outlines in 1244 but it is quite obvious Tadić is following the same agenda as set by the EU/US and he would have us sleepwalk into independence.

It won't happen and will only make matters worse when the time comes to reverse the occupation.

Some in Tadic's Government call Montenegro a traitor and back-stabber to Serbia but in fact there is no greater traitor and back stabber to the Serbian people than Tadic and company. Montenegro although foolish is only looking after their own interests, even though in the end this will haunt them for a very long time, however, as everyday goes by Tadic give in to the US and EU, bit by bit, so that its not so obviouse and he keeps going on about how his goverment is defending Kosovo via the ICJ, which will do little for Serbia's interest in Kosovo, in fact all it will do is bring hardship to the Albanian people and not their criminal Government, the ICJ process is designed to keep Kosovo from gaining membership in important World organizations and halt any prospect of international investment in Kosovo thus the people suffer, and not the toy Government of Kosovo or the morally questionable architects behind this illegal land grab.

Finally this business of joining the EU, enough already! Ask Bulgaria how great it is to be in the EU. I have worked and lived in Bulgaria and its not that great, their people have been duped by all the promises that the EU made before they joined.

Its time that Tadic start looking after Serbias interest and not that of the EU's, its time Serbia develope even closer ties with true friends like Russia, India, China, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia, Venezuela, Cuba, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Cyprus, and South Africa, by the way these 13 countries represent nearly 50% of the world's population! Just these 13 friends of Serbia are half the world!

Very good wording, but if you read the details: "we agree on EULEX only if pigs and donkeys fly".

If a diplomat says "yes", that means "maybe"
If a diplomat says "maybe", that means "no"
If a diplomat says "no", that means he is not a diplomat.


Na, good.

I think, Tadic said "maybe" here.

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and all Yugo countries recognised Kosovo.
(PRN, 16 October 2008 10:49)

Except one of the largest (second-largest, after Serbia). Which can it be? It begins with "B" and it's not less multi-ethinic than YU was itself. I still have no idea, why YU had to be partitioned and a lesser, mini-YU created inside of it.

If a diplomat says "yes", that means "maybe"
If a diplomat says "maybe", that means "no"
If a diplomat says "no", that means he is not a diplomat.
(Ataman (from BG this time), 16 October 2008 15:53)

A completely agree with your above statement (all three of them).
Also I would add that a diplomat leaves doors opened for any amendments of his/hers comments.
We all have to accept that this rhetoric of Tadic leaves all options opened.
Whatever happens, the statement reflects that (either way).
Politically, a very good statement!
Very hard to read “between the lines”!

However Ataman, a diplomat can say whatever he wishes: what counts is who is listening to that diplomat.
By the way, it has been a while since you used the “pigs fly” phrase.
This time I can see that you added “donkeys” also.
Is that also a diplomatic expression?
Should I use my “look above, is it a plane… is it a bird” response again?
Decisions, decisions!!
One more point you touched (the place that starts with “B” as you put it).
The part that does not recognise Kosovo actually is RS not BiH as a whole and we know why, don’t we Ataman?

He added that the vote at the UN General Assembly had been a great diplomatic victory for Serbia, but that one should not be fooled into thinking that it was something that would automatically stop Kosovo from gaining further recognitions.

Mr. Tadic, did you tell that to Mr. Jeremic?

Kosovo is for sale via Mr. Tadic!

Of course a compromise is possible and in fact it's the only way forward.

Serbs need to realize that Kosovo can no longer be under their direct control any more than Danzig can be under Germany's or Transylvania under Hungary's.

Albanians need to realize their independence is little more than a matter of convenience with US foreign policy and that their designated sovereignty is limited only to Albanian-dominant areas. They have not, and they will not, establish control over the north, nor will they effectively be able to govern in the enclaves.

It's time to give effective control of Serb and Gorani sectors to those constituent ethnic groups and if they wish to reestablish closer ties with Belgrade or whoever, that's their right.

Well, I am not sure what president Tadic is talking about, but everything is clear from the following extract from the Ahthisaari's Comperhensive Proposal for the Kosovo Status Setllement
"12.1 The European Union shall establish a European Security and Defense Policy (ESDP) Mission in the field of rule of law.
12.2 The ESDP Mission shall assist Kosovo authorities in their progress towards sustainability and accountability and in further developing and strengthening an independent judiciary, police and customs service, ensuring that these institutions are free from political interference and in accordance with internationally recognized standards and European best practices.
12.3 The ESDP Mission shall support implementation of this Settlement and shall provide mentoring, monitoring and advice in the area of the rule of law generally, while retaining certain powers, in particular, with respect to the judiciary, police, customs and correctional services, under modalities and for a duration to be determined by the EU Council, in accordance with Annexes IX and X of this Settlement.

So, it clearly states that the new rule of law mission, (regardless of it's name EULEX or ESDP) is there to support the implementation of the Settlemennt which is, as we all know, the independent Kosovo.

Visible signs of Tadic's & co capitulation.

Mr Tadic knows that Serbia, throughout its history, never won anything diplomatically or peacefully, but ALWAYS through despicable use of force through shameful wars that caused several nations to suffer enourmously. Just look at former Yugoslav nations in 1990s.

Naturally, nobody wants to be with Serbia, and all Yugo countries recognised Kosovo.

Does this ring a bell???

Slowly slowly..everything seems to go according to the plan...

“Anyone who finds fault with these principles has a problem with logic. There are political parties that are trying to fool Serbian citizens and ‘guarantee’ that EULEX will implement independence in Kosovo.” Tadić said.
--
Oh what a fool Tadić is. Firstly the whole idea of Kosovo independence was to take it off the international agenda and to Europeanise it, where most EU members either supported it or were arm twisted into recognition.

It is Feith who has constantly repeated that this EU mission will implement the Ahtisaari Plan so why would Tadić now blame political parties for having that idea?

Finally, he is even a bigger fool for believing those liars. UNSC resolution 1244 guaranteed Serbia's territorial integrity and look what they did. They promised a final solution based on autonomy but are now pushing for independence. Once this EU mission is in, they will make their own rules up.

If he wanted to push for something it should be the return of Serbian police back into the province as outlines in 1244 but it is quite obvious Tadić is following the same agenda as set by the EU/US and he would have us sleepwalk into independence.

It won't happen and will only make matters worse when the time comes to reverse the occupation.

If a diplomat says "yes", that means "maybe"
If a diplomat says "maybe", that means "no"
If a diplomat says "no", that means he is not a diplomat.
(Ataman (from BG this time), 16 October 2008 15:53)

A completely agree with your above statement (all three of them).
Also I would add that a diplomat leaves doors opened for any amendments of his/hers comments.
We all have to accept that this rhetoric of Tadic leaves all options opened.
Whatever happens, the statement reflects that (either way).
Politically, a very good statement!
Very hard to read “between the lines”!

However Ataman, a diplomat can say whatever he wishes: what counts is who is listening to that diplomat.
By the way, it has been a while since you used the “pigs fly” phrase.
This time I can see that you added “donkeys” also.
Is that also a diplomatic expression?
Should I use my “look above, is it a plane… is it a bird” response again?
Decisions, decisions!!
One more point you touched (the place that starts with “B” as you put it).
The part that does not recognise Kosovo actually is RS not BiH as a whole and we know why, don’t we Ataman?

Very good wording, but if you read the details: "we agree on EULEX only if pigs and donkeys fly".

If a diplomat says "yes", that means "maybe"
If a diplomat says "maybe", that means "no"
If a diplomat says "no", that means he is not a diplomat.


Na, good.

I think, Tadic said "maybe" here.

--------------------------

and all Yugo countries recognised Kosovo.
(PRN, 16 October 2008 10:49)

Except one of the largest (second-largest, after Serbia). Which can it be? It begins with "B" and it's not less multi-ethinic than YU was itself. I still have no idea, why YU had to be partitioned and a lesser, mini-YU created inside of it.

Some in Tadic's Government call Montenegro a traitor and back-stabber to Serbia but in fact there is no greater traitor and back stabber to the Serbian people than Tadic and company. Montenegro although foolish is only looking after their own interests, even though in the end this will haunt them for a very long time, however, as everyday goes by Tadic give in to the US and EU, bit by bit, so that its not so obviouse and he keeps going on about how his goverment is defending Kosovo via the ICJ, which will do little for Serbia's interest in Kosovo, in fact all it will do is bring hardship to the Albanian people and not their criminal Government, the ICJ process is designed to keep Kosovo from gaining membership in important World organizations and halt any prospect of international investment in Kosovo thus the people suffer, and not the toy Government of Kosovo or the morally questionable architects behind this illegal land grab.

Finally this business of joining the EU, enough already! Ask Bulgaria how great it is to be in the EU. I have worked and lived in Bulgaria and its not that great, their people have been duped by all the promises that the EU made before they joined.

Its time that Tadic start looking after Serbias interest and not that of the EU's, its time Serbia develope even closer ties with true friends like Russia, India, China, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia, Venezuela, Cuba, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, Cyprus, and South Africa, by the way these 13 countries represent nearly 50% of the world's population! Just these 13 friends of Serbia are half the world!

He added that the vote at the UN General Assembly had been a great diplomatic victory for Serbia, but that one should not be fooled into thinking that it was something that would automatically stop Kosovo from gaining further recognitions.

Mr. Tadic, did you tell that to Mr. Jeremic?

Of course a compromise is possible and in fact it's the only way forward.

Serbs need to realize that Kosovo can no longer be under their direct control any more than Danzig can be under Germany's or Transylvania under Hungary's.

Albanians need to realize their independence is little more than a matter of convenience with US foreign policy and that their designated sovereignty is limited only to Albanian-dominant areas. They have not, and they will not, establish control over the north, nor will they effectively be able to govern in the enclaves.

It's time to give effective control of Serb and Gorani sectors to those constituent ethnic groups and if they wish to reestablish closer ties with Belgrade or whoever, that's their right.

Kosovo is for sale via Mr. Tadic!

Well, I am not sure what president Tadic is talking about, but everything is clear from the following extract from the Ahthisaari's Comperhensive Proposal for the Kosovo Status Setllement
"12.1 The European Union shall establish a European Security and Defense Policy (ESDP) Mission in the field of rule of law.
12.2 The ESDP Mission shall assist Kosovo authorities in their progress towards sustainability and accountability and in further developing and strengthening an independent judiciary, police and customs service, ensuring that these institutions are free from political interference and in accordance with internationally recognized standards and European best practices.
12.3 The ESDP Mission shall support implementation of this Settlement and shall provide mentoring, monitoring and advice in the area of the rule of law generally, while retaining certain powers, in particular, with respect to the judiciary, police, customs and correctional services, under modalities and for a duration to be determined by the EU Council, in accordance with Annexes IX and X of this Settlement.

So, it clearly states that the new rule of law mission, (regardless of it's name EULEX or ESDP) is there to support the implementation of the Settlemennt which is, as we all know, the independent Kosovo.