World press reacts to Kosovo recognition

A new era has been ushered in. Montenegro and Macedonia will be hailed as heroes in the streets of Pristina and Tirana. A new era! Both countries dealing Serbia a major blow that will never be forgotten or forgiven. With friends like that, who needs enemies...

Here's my two cents on the whole thing:

CG's recognition carries far more weight than Macedonia's. For one, Macedonia's recognition was a matter of time, and I'm surprised they didn't recognize sooner. Montenegro's recognition on the other hand, comes right on the heels of a positive GA vote, so naturally that stings all the more seeing as how it demonstrates the argued futility of Serbia seeking international arbitration over an issue that is left for individuals states to decide.

But at the same time, these recognitions have come from two states seeking entry into the EU and NATO. Obviously they've been told they have to jump through certain hoops and dance the dance others wrote for them in order to receive international support.

These are two states that are internally weak, economically dependent, and in essence looking for their own survival. Kosovo means little to them, particularly CG. Seeking international approval on the other hand certainly forced a decision. If Milo was told EU and NATO entry were not conditional on their recognition of Kosovo, he wouldn't recognize.

I'm no expert on this, but I feel that this may be the last we'll see of recognitions for a while. These may have been just holdouts. If recognition remains at or around 50, Serbia's long-term prospects at the ICJ may not be seriously harmed. Though at this point, I feel Serbia would get far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors (again, the Dayton model). That might now be the key compromise many states would be willing to meet in order to close the book here.

And who knows? In the hypothetical world of withdrawing recognitions in the event of something unforeseen, I wouldn't put it past a post-Djokanovic government to be one of the first. At this stage of the game, I've accepted the theory that reality is often dictated by the most insane person in the room.

Enjoy the weekend everyone.

C'mon guys...you should understand better this situation. Robert Gates visited Macedonia on Tuesday I think and held talks with Macedonias and Montenegrins of course I expected both countries to recognize Kosovo as independent state. You know that Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovenia, Croatia and other neighbours did that months ago. I don't think this is a blow to serbia. All G7 countries have accepted Kosovo and have established diplomatic relationships. I wonder when Serbia is going to do that. ICJ will not take long time to review the legality of the independence..because all surrounding countries have recognized Kosovo as independent. Now it's time for all people in Ballkans to calm down and think for the future because Kosovo's independence is done deal.

World press reacts to Kosovo recognition ????
-World press- ? i can see here only Russia react hmhm.
They can react as much they wont we don't care.
1 Million thanks to Montenegro and Macedonia.

It is unfortunate that montenegro and macedonia have abandoned Serbia's fight to liberate kosovo from WESTERN Crocodiles. They should have waited for the ICJ's decision before they make a final opinion.

Blackmail,that is the word that the serbs know far to well. Kosovo's independence will bring apocalypse according to serbs. What has happened so far? Nothing.Just serbs burning embasies and killing the ukrainian peacekeeper.


Mike you are right about Serbia geting far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors.Only that,that is not called Dayton but Ahtisaari Plan.And you know there might be a hypothetical world where Russia doesn't veto Kosovo's independence in Security Council.

to Mike:

you seem to underestimate something here...

WE will "close the book", after our southern province is liberated again.

you should not fool yourself, with albanian propaganda, since they will always sing foreign tunes, like they always did in history... but Serbia kept her head high. and time works for Serbia, although many here do not get it yet...

let´s just see what future brings.

ps: remember, Taiwan was once "recognized" by many more states than it is today...

it´s not over yet, Mike.

America, the day you have a seccessionist movement, I hope Serbia is there right by your side and recognizes the territorial integrity and sovereignty of each of your states as newly independent countries. It would be final and closed case, with no room for discussion. That would bring peace, stability and prosperity to the North American hemispere and the entire world. Believe me that day will come, maybe not in my lifetime, but in the near future for sure.

Montenegrin leader, cigarette smuggler.... Macedonian leader deathly afraid of his own Albanian population declaring UDI... 2 solid votes not purchased the U.S, EU blackmail.
But seriously, I didn't know Montenegro was going to be made famous to cigarette smuggling, I thought it would have known as the largest importer of stolen autos. Macedonia? What is that anyway? Who are they, don't identify themselves as related to Greeks. Are they their own species?

I wrote about 4 months ago that US will be economically bankrupt soon (happening as I’m writing this) and they are morally bankrupt from long before.
So the “successful “ policies of cowboy Bush – expert in free world business and drive-through democracy and American way of LI(F)E, made a world a much better place – as some posters see and are ready to blindly applaud and follow him.
So, why Serbia is only one who stay straight and proud in this BushyWorld? It’s no point for that, this world is heading to depression and as law, justice, pride and logic failed – just catch the train and recognize south Serbia as newborn state and get fail all together – United.

I hope that I won’t be right this time, but after depression and failure of only “superpooper”, we all should know what is coming next – big, WW. So, you all helped by following blindly master policies and you see where we stand – already bankrupt and on the brink of the war – the only way that your master can rise from the huge hole – they doesn’t have resources and intelligence to rise out of this mess in any other normal way.

The more interesting question is, how serb media will report in future. It is also time for B92 to relook itself and find answers why and how they classified the situation. Do recent developments really come unexcpected? How to judge Serbia's chances to stop Kosovo independence.
Indeed this day should change many things, it is to be feared it will change nothing within Serbia.

i agree... why is serbia waisting time burning bridges with other countries...no point..the kosovo independence will never change...its a done deal...serbs had their chance to hold kosovo,though decide to committ terrible crimes against humanity..

there is a sayin you choose your own destiny..

montenegro didnt stab serbia..they just want to move up in the world they dont want to be part of serbia,they want to be part of europe..too easy to understand..they are modern people not village people..serbia has left them behind by involving them into wars and destroying their tourism..it has one of the most beautiful coast lines in the world

peace and democracy

"I feel Serbia would get far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors (again, the Dayton model). That might now be the key compromise many states would be willing to meet..."

Mike,

I am pleased that you are coming to terms with the new reality.
"The binding provisions" should be exactely applied as for those Albanian sectors living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja. I don't think is that difficult. Kosova and Serbia join the EU.

Mike wrote:
"Though at this point, I feel Serbia would get far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors (again, the Dayton model)."
Mike - I usually read your comments. But what you just wrote - shows that (after all) you still don't understand psychology of Serbs. And if you (still) don't understand that - then it means you cannot stand for what is in Serbia's best interest... Simply - Serbs don't "function" how Western people think they should function - neither I think they should. If you really care about Serbs - then you should try to "unlearn" your Western way of thinking - and start to understand how Serbs think and feel. I am sure of one thing in the future - conflict about Kosovo won't be solved the way West expects Serbs to behave. Serbs (in foreseeable future) won't change in that direction - and I really don't see a valid reason for that. Basic problem or West is that Serbs are not that much motivated by money factor. And basic way of Western dealing with Kosovo is - money. Although West hides this behind (usual) humanitarian smoke screen. On the other hand - I think (and that irritates West specially U.S) that Serb's attitude towards "greed" is fact one of the strong points in psychology of Serb's. So you shouldn't expect that Serbs will - accept some solutions - because this is "profitable" in Western system of values (which are pretty questionable by the way)...

EA wrote:
Mike,

I am pleased that you are coming to terms with the new reality.
Well it is not about reality - problem is that Mike (supposedly) backs Serbs in Kosovo - and on the other hand doesn't understand what Serbs see as a problem in solution which is pushed by US so far. If one doesn't understand then
one can't say what the solution of problem would be, including Mike.
Basic difference between two sides is that one is very much about money (which is the language which US perfectly understands) and the other is not so much about money(which is the thing that US doesn't understand very well).
Although Mike is very much involved in comments on Kosovo issue - he still doesn't understand Serb's point of view. His comments reflect that, and because of that - he can't really say that he thinks that Serbs were treated unjustly by his countrymen. Problem is not in reality or unreality of such solution - problem is in just solution (not money).

It is unfortunate that montenegro and macedonia have abandoned Serbia's fight to liberate kosovo from WESTERN Crocodiles. They should have waited for the ICJ's decision before they make a final opinion.

A new era has been ushered in. Montenegro and Macedonia will be hailed as heroes in the streets of Pristina and Tirana. A new era! Both countries dealing Serbia a major blow that will never be forgotten or forgiven. With friends like that, who needs enemies...

Here's my two cents on the whole thing:

CG's recognition carries far more weight than Macedonia's. For one, Macedonia's recognition was a matter of time, and I'm surprised they didn't recognize sooner. Montenegro's recognition on the other hand, comes right on the heels of a positive GA vote, so naturally that stings all the more seeing as how it demonstrates the argued futility of Serbia seeking international arbitration over an issue that is left for individuals states to decide.

But at the same time, these recognitions have come from two states seeking entry into the EU and NATO. Obviously they've been told they have to jump through certain hoops and dance the dance others wrote for them in order to receive international support.

These are two states that are internally weak, economically dependent, and in essence looking for their own survival. Kosovo means little to them, particularly CG. Seeking international approval on the other hand certainly forced a decision. If Milo was told EU and NATO entry were not conditional on their recognition of Kosovo, he wouldn't recognize.

I'm no expert on this, but I feel that this may be the last we'll see of recognitions for a while. These may have been just holdouts. If recognition remains at or around 50, Serbia's long-term prospects at the ICJ may not be seriously harmed. Though at this point, I feel Serbia would get far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors (again, the Dayton model). That might now be the key compromise many states would be willing to meet in order to close the book here.

And who knows? In the hypothetical world of withdrawing recognitions in the event of something unforeseen, I wouldn't put it past a post-Djokanovic government to be one of the first. At this stage of the game, I've accepted the theory that reality is often dictated by the most insane person in the room.

Enjoy the weekend everyone.

C'mon guys...you should understand better this situation. Robert Gates visited Macedonia on Tuesday I think and held talks with Macedonias and Montenegrins of course I expected both countries to recognize Kosovo as independent state. You know that Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovenia, Croatia and other neighbours did that months ago. I don't think this is a blow to serbia. All G7 countries have accepted Kosovo and have established diplomatic relationships. I wonder when Serbia is going to do that. ICJ will not take long time to review the legality of the independence..because all surrounding countries have recognized Kosovo as independent. Now it's time for all people in Ballkans to calm down and think for the future because Kosovo's independence is done deal.

i agree... why is serbia waisting time burning bridges with other countries...no point..the kosovo independence will never change...its a done deal...serbs had their chance to hold kosovo,though decide to committ terrible crimes against humanity..

there is a sayin you choose your own destiny..

montenegro didnt stab serbia..they just want to move up in the world they dont want to be part of serbia,they want to be part of europe..too easy to understand..they are modern people not village people..serbia has left them behind by involving them into wars and destroying their tourism..it has one of the most beautiful coast lines in the world

peace and democracy

to Mike:

you seem to underestimate something here...

WE will "close the book", after our southern province is liberated again.

you should not fool yourself, with albanian propaganda, since they will always sing foreign tunes, like they always did in history... but Serbia kept her head high. and time works for Serbia, although many here do not get it yet...

let´s just see what future brings.

ps: remember, Taiwan was once "recognized" by many more states than it is today...

it´s not over yet, Mike.

America, the day you have a seccessionist movement, I hope Serbia is there right by your side and recognizes the territorial integrity and sovereignty of each of your states as newly independent countries. It would be final and closed case, with no room for discussion. That would bring peace, stability and prosperity to the North American hemispere and the entire world. Believe me that day will come, maybe not in my lifetime, but in the near future for sure.

Montenegrin leader, cigarette smuggler.... Macedonian leader deathly afraid of his own Albanian population declaring UDI... 2 solid votes not purchased the U.S, EU blackmail.
But seriously, I didn't know Montenegro was going to be made famous to cigarette smuggling, I thought it would have known as the largest importer of stolen autos. Macedonia? What is that anyway? Who are they, don't identify themselves as related to Greeks. Are they their own species?

I wrote about 4 months ago that US will be economically bankrupt soon (happening as I’m writing this) and they are morally bankrupt from long before.
So the “successful “ policies of cowboy Bush – expert in free world business and drive-through democracy and American way of LI(F)E, made a world a much better place – as some posters see and are ready to blindly applaud and follow him.
So, why Serbia is only one who stay straight and proud in this BushyWorld? It’s no point for that, this world is heading to depression and as law, justice, pride and logic failed – just catch the train and recognize south Serbia as newborn state and get fail all together – United.

I hope that I won’t be right this time, but after depression and failure of only “superpooper”, we all should know what is coming next – big, WW. So, you all helped by following blindly master policies and you see where we stand – already bankrupt and on the brink of the war – the only way that your master can rise from the huge hole – they doesn’t have resources and intelligence to rise out of this mess in any other normal way.

The more interesting question is, how serb media will report in future. It is also time for B92 to relook itself and find answers why and how they classified the situation. Do recent developments really come unexcpected? How to judge Serbia's chances to stop Kosovo independence.
Indeed this day should change many things, it is to be feared it will change nothing within Serbia.

Mike wrote:
"Though at this point, I feel Serbia would get far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors (again, the Dayton model)."
Mike - I usually read your comments. But what you just wrote - shows that (after all) you still don't understand psychology of Serbs. And if you (still) don't understand that - then it means you cannot stand for what is in Serbia's best interest... Simply - Serbs don't "function" how Western people think they should function - neither I think they should. If you really care about Serbs - then you should try to "unlearn" your Western way of thinking - and start to understand how Serbs think and feel. I am sure of one thing in the future - conflict about Kosovo won't be solved the way West expects Serbs to behave. Serbs (in foreseeable future) won't change in that direction - and I really don't see a valid reason for that. Basic problem or West is that Serbs are not that much motivated by money factor. And basic way of Western dealing with Kosovo is - money. Although West hides this behind (usual) humanitarian smoke screen. On the other hand - I think (and that irritates West specially U.S) that Serb's attitude towards "greed" is fact one of the strong points in psychology of Serb's. So you shouldn't expect that Serbs will - accept some solutions - because this is "profitable" in Western system of values (which are pretty questionable by the way)...

Blackmail,that is the word that the serbs know far to well. Kosovo's independence will bring apocalypse according to serbs. What has happened so far? Nothing.Just serbs burning embasies and killing the ukrainian peacekeeper.


Mike you are right about Serbia geting far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors.Only that,that is not called Dayton but Ahtisaari Plan.And you know there might be a hypothetical world where Russia doesn't veto Kosovo's independence in Security Council.

World press reacts to Kosovo recognition ????
-World press- ? i can see here only Russia react hmhm.
They can react as much they wont we don't care.
1 Million thanks to Montenegro and Macedonia.

"I feel Serbia would get far more leverage and support in accepting an independent Kosovo with serious and politically binding provisions for the Serb sectors (again, the Dayton model). That might now be the key compromise many states would be willing to meet..."

Mike,

I am pleased that you are coming to terms with the new reality.
"The binding provisions" should be exactely applied as for those Albanian sectors living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja. I don't think is that difficult. Kosova and Serbia join the EU.

EA wrote:
Mike,

I am pleased that you are coming to terms with the new reality.
Well it is not about reality - problem is that Mike (supposedly) backs Serbs in Kosovo - and on the other hand doesn't understand what Serbs see as a problem in solution which is pushed by US so far. If one doesn't understand then
one can't say what the solution of problem would be, including Mike.
Basic difference between two sides is that one is very much about money (which is the language which US perfectly understands) and the other is not so much about money(which is the thing that US doesn't understand very well).
Although Mike is very much involved in comments on Kosovo issue - he still doesn't understand Serb's point of view. His comments reflect that, and because of that - he can't really say that he thinks that Serbs were treated unjustly by his countrymen. Problem is not in reality or unreality of such solution - problem is in just solution (not money).