Poll: Serbs, Albanians unwilling to improve relations

Ahtisaari plan and "pax Americana" at work. Congratulations!

Just let's do a similar test in Vojvodina between Hungarians and Serbs. And see the difference. Wonder, why.

As soon as Kosova authorities and EULEX exert its authority in the north and whole Kosova things will start changing for better and better for the Serbs citizens of the newborn Kosova. The assurances are from EU and the leadership in Kosova.

Proof of my opinion since a long time now.The best way forward for the people of Kosovo is to share life and trust and respect and be engaged in the social and political life.One can represent their interests and protect them in the place where it maters,and that place is Prishtina (Kosovo gov,UNMIK,EULEX). It might not be perfect but is the nearest to perfect. The alternative is not good.

How can Albanians vote for KLA killers of Serbs and say they are mad at Serbs for not integrating. Why are terrorist killers allowed to be politicians in Kosovo? They weren't in Bosnia.

These polls and more investigation on mutual relation is needed very badly. The result doesn't surprise, how should it be different. You just have to look at B92(who is quite liberal compared to other serb media), You get the impression Albanians do nothing else than disgrace serb graves and churches, traffic drugs and weapons and live on "serb"-welfare.
On the Albanian side, I include myself, even knowing its not right (-I'm justing telling how people think, and the poll shows it- so dear B92 don't censore it!) I dont regret every serb leaving Kosovo, cause I've seen my serbian neighbour (Vlade - town of Gatnje -Urosevac) turning from a postman to a blue clothed paramilitarian, wearing AK 47 in the '90-ies. Considering todays statements of serb-officials, practically menacing our living base, indeed we are frightened and alerted since every serb town could be a potential serb military base. Your statements "Kosovo je Srbia" will not make things better and I'm not ready to rely on Seseljs mercy.

Shocking figures. Governments seem unwilling to address this issue, so the initiative should be taken by civil society. Shame on all them international organizations too, for getting top dollar and doing nothing.

"As soon as Kosova authorities and EULEX exert its authority in the north and whole Kosova things will start changing for better and better for the Serbs citizens of the newborn Kosova. The assurances are from EU and the leadership in Kosova.
(EA, 5 October 2008 21:31) "

well, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you for the day Pristina would be allowed to extend its authority in the north by the majority inhabitants there!

Personaly I wouldn't like to imporve or better have any relation with Attaman, Jovan, Peggy, ZK UK and others.

Hence, the pools are right.

Just a thought as the Albanians formed the KLA for independence and used terrorism what would happen if over time Serbs formed similar groups like the Basque or IRA (Irish Republicsn Army) and carried out a similar war.

cause I've seen my serbian neighbour (Vlade - town of Gatnje -Urosevac) turning from a postman to a blue clothed paramilitarian, wearing AK 47 in the '90-ies.
(Driton, 6 October 2008 10:50)

Yes, Driton, I 100% believe you.


http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=53951

comment#2:

"Only blood washes the blood accoring to the Kanuni i Lek Dukagjinit (read about blood feuds) unless they are forgiven. Just to get their revenge entire generations have been caught up in feuds, taking it was a matter of honor."
(Dashnori i Satam, 3 October 2008 17:25)

Yes, Dashnori, I 100% believe you


http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=53954

comment#4:

""Zero tolerance for private gun ownership"

It will never happen, not in Kosova or Albania. Owning a gun is by tradition a right and will come in handy if we are attacked."
(Dashnori i Ceces, 4 October 2008 06:10)

Yes, Dashnori, I again 100% believe you

After that, I am really confused about postman, AK-47 and such. You want your rights "by tradition" to bear arms and kill for some honor code, secured - but once the other side does similar insanity, you are acting like innocent.

I think, I just proved, there are double-standards. There shouldn't be any. Your AK-47 wearing Serb was not any worse than his Albanian opponents who did the same.

@Drito:
you made a mistake to rely on USA´s mercy.

it´s still too early for you to understand that, but there are others who do realize what is coming..

it´s not only Fareed Zakaria with his "post-american age" ..now even the german spiegel is writing of "american arrogance"...and the end of their economical dominance...

let´s just see what future brigns.

Driton,
Weren't postmen considered legitimate targets by the terrorist KLA? And if this is the case, why are you so surprised by the reaction?

Personaly I wouldn't like to imporve or better have any relation with Attaman, Jovan, Peggy, ZK UK and others.

Hence, the pools are right.
(ben, 6 October 2008 13:13)

Looking at some of your past comments, Ben - should I regard it as a compliment? :)

Why are you keep and keep posting here?
According my weird logic, you again are contradicting yourself.

This is a place where some crazy people argue in their own weird way with other people who are crazy a different way. Maybe it's not a place for you, there is an entire world out there - why are you curious how "ZK UK" will fight with "bganon" and myself with "ORTHODOX.RU"? We are here some weirdo guys, you will be happier without us for sure. We will bring just frustration for you. BEWARE: we also may have very weird sense of humor and twisted logic what may offend you, but for some unknown reason not really each other.

Personaly I wouldn't like to imporve or better have any relation with Attaman, Jovan, Peggy, ZK UK and others.

Hence, the pools are right.
(ben, 6 October 2008 13:13)

Ben, I don't recall extending an invitation to you.

I am very happy that you have put me in the company of Jovan, Atama and ZK UK. Thanks for that.

One question. What did I say to upset you? I haven't even commented on this article.

Ahtisaari plan and "pax Americana" at work. Congratulations!

Just let's do a similar test in Vojvodina between Hungarians and Serbs. And see the difference. Wonder, why.

Proof of my opinion since a long time now.The best way forward for the people of Kosovo is to share life and trust and respect and be engaged in the social and political life.One can represent their interests and protect them in the place where it maters,and that place is Prishtina (Kosovo gov,UNMIK,EULEX). It might not be perfect but is the nearest to perfect. The alternative is not good.

As soon as Kosova authorities and EULEX exert its authority in the north and whole Kosova things will start changing for better and better for the Serbs citizens of the newborn Kosova. The assurances are from EU and the leadership in Kosova.

Personaly I wouldn't like to imporve or better have any relation with Attaman, Jovan, Peggy, ZK UK and others.

Hence, the pools are right.

Shocking figures. Governments seem unwilling to address this issue, so the initiative should be taken by civil society. Shame on all them international organizations too, for getting top dollar and doing nothing.

These polls and more investigation on mutual relation is needed very badly. The result doesn't surprise, how should it be different. You just have to look at B92(who is quite liberal compared to other serb media), You get the impression Albanians do nothing else than disgrace serb graves and churches, traffic drugs and weapons and live on "serb"-welfare.
On the Albanian side, I include myself, even knowing its not right (-I'm justing telling how people think, and the poll shows it- so dear B92 don't censore it!) I dont regret every serb leaving Kosovo, cause I've seen my serbian neighbour (Vlade - town of Gatnje -Urosevac) turning from a postman to a blue clothed paramilitarian, wearing AK 47 in the '90-ies. Considering todays statements of serb-officials, practically menacing our living base, indeed we are frightened and alerted since every serb town could be a potential serb military base. Your statements "Kosovo je Srbia" will not make things better and I'm not ready to rely on Seseljs mercy.

@Drito:
you made a mistake to rely on USA´s mercy.

it´s still too early for you to understand that, but there are others who do realize what is coming..

it´s not only Fareed Zakaria with his "post-american age" ..now even the german spiegel is writing of "american arrogance"...and the end of their economical dominance...

let´s just see what future brigns.

Just a thought as the Albanians formed the KLA for independence and used terrorism what would happen if over time Serbs formed similar groups like the Basque or IRA (Irish Republicsn Army) and carried out a similar war.

"As soon as Kosova authorities and EULEX exert its authority in the north and whole Kosova things will start changing for better and better for the Serbs citizens of the newborn Kosova. The assurances are from EU and the leadership in Kosova.
(EA, 5 October 2008 21:31) "

well, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you for the day Pristina would be allowed to extend its authority in the north by the majority inhabitants there!

How can Albanians vote for KLA killers of Serbs and say they are mad at Serbs for not integrating. Why are terrorist killers allowed to be politicians in Kosovo? They weren't in Bosnia.

Driton,
Weren't postmen considered legitimate targets by the terrorist KLA? And if this is the case, why are you so surprised by the reaction?

Personaly I wouldn't like to imporve or better have any relation with Attaman, Jovan, Peggy, ZK UK and others.

Hence, the pools are right.
(ben, 6 October 2008 13:13)

Looking at some of your past comments, Ben - should I regard it as a compliment? :)

Why are you keep and keep posting here?
According my weird logic, you again are contradicting yourself.

This is a place where some crazy people argue in their own weird way with other people who are crazy a different way. Maybe it's not a place for you, there is an entire world out there - why are you curious how "ZK UK" will fight with "bganon" and myself with "ORTHODOX.RU"? We are here some weirdo guys, you will be happier without us for sure. We will bring just frustration for you. BEWARE: we also may have very weird sense of humor and twisted logic what may offend you, but for some unknown reason not really each other.

cause I've seen my serbian neighbour (Vlade - town of Gatnje -Urosevac) turning from a postman to a blue clothed paramilitarian, wearing AK 47 in the '90-ies.
(Driton, 6 October 2008 10:50)

Yes, Driton, I 100% believe you.


http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=53951

comment#2:

"Only blood washes the blood accoring to the Kanuni i Lek Dukagjinit (read about blood feuds) unless they are forgiven. Just to get their revenge entire generations have been caught up in feuds, taking it was a matter of honor."
(Dashnori i Satam, 3 October 2008 17:25)

Yes, Dashnori, I 100% believe you


http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=53954

comment#4:

""Zero tolerance for private gun ownership"

It will never happen, not in Kosova or Albania. Owning a gun is by tradition a right and will come in handy if we are attacked."
(Dashnori i Ceces, 4 October 2008 06:10)

Yes, Dashnori, I again 100% believe you

After that, I am really confused about postman, AK-47 and such. You want your rights "by tradition" to bear arms and kill for some honor code, secured - but once the other side does similar insanity, you are acting like innocent.

I think, I just proved, there are double-standards. There shouldn't be any. Your AK-47 wearing Serb was not any worse than his Albanian opponents who did the same.

Personaly I wouldn't like to imporve or better have any relation with Attaman, Jovan, Peggy, ZK UK and others.

Hence, the pools are right.
(ben, 6 October 2008 13:13)

Ben, I don't recall extending an invitation to you.

I am very happy that you have put me in the company of Jovan, Atama and ZK UK. Thanks for that.

One question. What did I say to upset you? I haven't even commented on this article.