Reactions to Tadić comments

Tadic: "Neither mine nor yours shall he be. Cut!"

Yesterday Tadic said that black was white and white was black and DS supporters agreed. Today the DS supporters claim that his message was not carried to the public properly

With respect to reactions, Some posters call this moving forward, Svilanovic and his Mercator/LDP friends, who are used to selling rotten vegatables, call this a break-through. I call his announcement and retractions a flip-flop on a vital issue of the greatest importance.

One is also reminded on the judgment of Solomon and the two mothers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Solomon and it leads us to wonder if the DS, which would cut Serbian land up, have any interest in Kosovo whatsoever. If not, they have perpetrated the greatest of frauds against the Serbian electorate who was assured that DS Kosovo policy would not change.

It is better to let the criminal seperatists destroy Kosovo alone, then to be their partners in Kosovo's destruction.

No to Nato, No to UCK, No to Tadic. Kosovo is Serbia

bgnanon,
Albanians dont; have the Greater Albania problem, I guarantee you. There is no need to, the states can be united while still be formally separate. maybe in 20-50 years when everyone is well off and people are more 'modern' they'll try.
Albanians do not not want to rule the North, I guarantee you. If Serbia after this is done suggest some swap with Presevo, Albanians will jump and agree to it. Once people get along, the Serbs inside Kosova will have no problems and most of them don't even now.

Marko, it was a given that Kosova needed to be recognized. The electorate knew it too but didn't want to hear it, at least not right away. If Serbs play it smart they can shave a few years off the wait and get some extra EU funds. Now, however EU knows that Serbs will not elect the Radicals.

'The daily adds that the “great losers would be the Kosovo Serbs", and goes on to explain that by this it means that "Albanians in that case would have no reason to implement the Ahtisaari plan and decentralization”. '

This isn't true, as any Serbian government must secure the rights of minorities that would live outside what they consider their homeland. They must be given full rights and every incentive to remain / return in their homes. I believe the Albanians in Serbian Kosovo would demand the same rights, indeed they would insist on the same treatment.

Still, it makes me wonder if Koha is actually trying some reverse psychology here - making it sound as if Serbs are the losers, thus Albanians are the winners ergo partition is not bad for us.

On the other hand this is always a tough cookie for Kosovo Albanian moderates, because in case of partition they may worry that proponents of a Greater Albania will become strong. So, ironically, once elections are over we may see Kosovo Albanian nationalists talking about partition as means to nearing their goal of unifying the Albanian territories. That would likely cause a counter reaction from urban Kosovo Albanians that control much of the media.

This is tricky and faces political obstacles from a Serbian perspective, but it might be even more hazardous from an Albanian one.

If Albanians do not implement the ahtisaari plans and decentralization than the Serbs will obviously have there own UDI. This is so dumb everyone knows northern Kosovo will be part of Serbia for all intents and purposes and that no albanian government will ever establish rule over it nor could any alabnian leader ever go there.

No to Nato, No to UCK, No to Tadic. Kosovo is Serbia
(Marko, 1 October 2008 23:40)

Good point Marko! I said that as soon as YOUR SERBIAN President of the Republic porposed the partition.

The "mother" that is ready to split the child IS SERBIA not Albanians ;)

The trial took place- the JUSTICE has been done Marko.

Like is or not... your President freely spoke in the trial and you invoked the Salomon judgment- what do you whant more????

Ben,

I am absolutely positive that you are right when you say that Tadic is the mother who would cut the child. Tadic cares even less about Kosovo, then he does about the rest of Serbia.

You see, in Belgrade we have these people who feel that the most important thing in the world is for them to have a comfortable life. Tadic and some of his supporters are often among these people.

However, just as Enver Hoxa did not represent all Albanians, neither does Tadic represent Serbia. It is not that he does not have the opportunity to represent the interests of Serbia, it is just that the interests of his wealthy friends are more important.

With the level of Corruption in Pristina, I am sure that this kind of person is familiar to you.

What I would like to do is to suggest that if any part of Kosovo is partitioned and given away then so should areas of Belgrade go to Pristina's control. I would force Thaci to accept great swaths of Dedinja including its nouveaux riche DS/G17 plutocrats and their LDP/SPS secretaries, butlers and maids. We could call them "For a EULux Belgrade".

“This isn't about selling out Serbs living in Dedinje Nor is it about nasty ethinc theories about how one group should live here and another there.”

'The daily adds that the “great losers would be the Kosovo Serbs", and goes on to explain that by this it means that "Albanians in that case would have no reason to implement the Ahtisaari plan and decentralization”. '

This isn't true, as any Serbian government must secure the rights of minorities that would live outside what they consider their homeland. They must be given full rights and every incentive to remain / return in their homes. I believe the Albanians in Serbian Kosovo would demand the same rights, indeed they would insist on the same treatment.

Still, it makes me wonder if Koha is actually trying some reverse psychology here - making it sound as if Serbs are the losers, thus Albanians are the winners ergo partition is not bad for us.

On the other hand this is always a tough cookie for Kosovo Albanian moderates, because in case of partition they may worry that proponents of a Greater Albania will become strong. So, ironically, once elections are over we may see Kosovo Albanian nationalists talking about partition as means to nearing their goal of unifying the Albanian territories. That would likely cause a counter reaction from urban Kosovo Albanians that control much of the media.

This is tricky and faces political obstacles from a Serbian perspective, but it might be even more hazardous from an Albanian one.

If Albanians do not implement the ahtisaari plans and decentralization than the Serbs will obviously have there own UDI. This is so dumb everyone knows northern Kosovo will be part of Serbia for all intents and purposes and that no albanian government will ever establish rule over it nor could any alabnian leader ever go there.

Tadic: "Neither mine nor yours shall he be. Cut!"

Yesterday Tadic said that black was white and white was black and DS supporters agreed. Today the DS supporters claim that his message was not carried to the public properly

With respect to reactions, Some posters call this moving forward, Svilanovic and his Mercator/LDP friends, who are used to selling rotten vegatables, call this a break-through. I call his announcement and retractions a flip-flop on a vital issue of the greatest importance.

One is also reminded on the judgment of Solomon and the two mothers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Solomon and it leads us to wonder if the DS, which would cut Serbian land up, have any interest in Kosovo whatsoever. If not, they have perpetrated the greatest of frauds against the Serbian electorate who was assured that DS Kosovo policy would not change.

It is better to let the criminal seperatists destroy Kosovo alone, then to be their partners in Kosovo's destruction.

No to Nato, No to UCK, No to Tadic. Kosovo is Serbia

bgnanon,
Albanians dont; have the Greater Albania problem, I guarantee you. There is no need to, the states can be united while still be formally separate. maybe in 20-50 years when everyone is well off and people are more 'modern' they'll try.
Albanians do not not want to rule the North, I guarantee you. If Serbia after this is done suggest some swap with Presevo, Albanians will jump and agree to it. Once people get along, the Serbs inside Kosova will have no problems and most of them don't even now.

Marko, it was a given that Kosova needed to be recognized. The electorate knew it too but didn't want to hear it, at least not right away. If Serbs play it smart they can shave a few years off the wait and get some extra EU funds. Now, however EU knows that Serbs will not elect the Radicals.

No to Nato, No to UCK, No to Tadic. Kosovo is Serbia
(Marko, 1 October 2008 23:40)

Good point Marko! I said that as soon as YOUR SERBIAN President of the Republic porposed the partition.

The "mother" that is ready to split the child IS SERBIA not Albanians ;)

The trial took place- the JUSTICE has been done Marko.

Like is or not... your President freely spoke in the trial and you invoked the Salomon judgment- what do you whant more????

Ben,

I am absolutely positive that you are right when you say that Tadic is the mother who would cut the child. Tadic cares even less about Kosovo, then he does about the rest of Serbia.

You see, in Belgrade we have these people who feel that the most important thing in the world is for them to have a comfortable life. Tadic and some of his supporters are often among these people.

However, just as Enver Hoxa did not represent all Albanians, neither does Tadic represent Serbia. It is not that he does not have the opportunity to represent the interests of Serbia, it is just that the interests of his wealthy friends are more important.

With the level of Corruption in Pristina, I am sure that this kind of person is familiar to you.

What I would like to do is to suggest that if any part of Kosovo is partitioned and given away then so should areas of Belgrade go to Pristina's control. I would force Thaci to accept great swaths of Dedinja including its nouveaux riche DS/G17 plutocrats and their LDP/SPS secretaries, butlers and maids. We could call them "For a EULux Belgrade".

“This isn't about selling out Serbs living in Dedinje Nor is it about nasty ethinc theories about how one group should live here and another there.”