"No separatism in Vojvodina"

But not realizing that Vojvodina is getting closer to breaking away and with lots of help from the West.

Freedom for All !!!
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 18:22)

You guys got a Nobel prize of physics? Apparently there are two Vojvodinas. One is in this world, the other is behind a space-time-reality wall, accessible only for K-Albanians. It's impossible to experience it for simple mortals.

No Separatism openly, but behind closed doors is something totally different.

Its funny how Beograd is still trying to get Kosova, but not realizing that Vojvodina is getting closer to breaking away and with lots of help from the West.

Freedom for All !!!

Dashnori yes it as a flag and coat of arms, however it has 26 ethnic minorities and six official languages. So freedom who would exactly run it? The largest group are Serbs then followed by Hungarians. Dashnori maybe its the truth they dont want to seperate.

It is a truly multicultural part of Serbia, unlike Kosovo where Albanian narrow mindedness wants no other races there but there own, a really good advert for multicultural Europe.

Hi Dash and Freedom. I am a Serb from Vojvodina and I assure you that we are not going to leave Serbia and niether are you. Despite heavy western involvment and patronage Kosovo's failure to become independent will serve as a cautionary tale for other regionalist/racist states.

Whether I wish for Vojvodina to be independent doesn't make a difference, because the eventual Independence of Vojvodina is not going to be based on any of our opinions or feelings, but on a much larger group of people that are not even in Vojvodina and YES, Vojvodina will be Independent!

Taking Vojvodina ILLEGALLY from Hungary 88 years ago and then ethnically cleansing 500,000 Germans from Vojvodina will not be rewarded to Serbia, and that is something you all need to understand!!!

"No separatism in Vojvodina"

what else are they suppose to say even if they wanted to separate? Serbia is too small for provinces, that may work for USA, Russia, China, Canada etc.

Does Vojvodina have it's own flag like Montengro did?

Dashnori i Ceces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Vojvodina.svg

Freedom

The West is helping a province with a 65% Serbian population to break away from Serbia?

Oh good I'm so glad to hear this. I mean the entire world except for Freedom knows this, but now that I read a statement from some V-Hungarian MP, I can completely put my mind to rest.

Yes, "Freedom", you wish. And who in Vojvodina do you think wants to break away, and why? Freedom for Gora!

"Whether I wish for Vojvodina to be independent doesn't make a difference, because the eventual Independence of Vojvodina is not going to be based on any of our opinions or feelings, but on a much larger group of people that are not even in Vojvodina and YES, Vojvodina will be Independent!

Taking Vojvodina ILLEGALLY from Hungary 88 years ago and then ethnically cleansing 500,000 Germans from Vojvodina will not be rewarded to Serbia, and that is something you all need to understand!!!
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 20:09) "

Freedom,

Are you from Mars or what? You don't seem to know that two thirds of Vojvodina's people are Serbs!

On a much larger group of people that are not even in Vojvodina and YES, Vojvodina will be Independent!
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 20:09)

You mean... the miniscule, politically insignificant but very loud neonazi group around our "well-respected" political hooligan, I mean, Führer Toroczkai László, who was banned from Canada, Slovakia, Serbia, Romania and had to face the judge in Hungary? The one who was behind the Budapest riots 2006, 2007 and recent attacks on joined Roma/Democrat demonstrators in Budapest? The glorious group who in Oct. 2006 wanted to kill all "Croatian Chetniks" - and as proof, vandalized the Népliget metro station near Fradi stadium because they could march South only that far before being locked up by the riot police?

If so, your nick is incorrect, you should call yourself "Brown Plague", "Green Arrowcross" maybe "Black Swastika" instead of "Freedom". :(

Other forces besides these Nobel Prize winners do not exist.

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ethnically cleansing 500,000 Germans from Vojvodina will not be rewarded to Serbia
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 20:09)

Indeed, there was a number of German and Hungarian civil victims. It is in tens of thousands, probably around 100000 (hundred K) Hungarians and Germans combined. The cleansing was ordered by a certain "gentleman" who spoke Russian with strong GEORGIAN accent and who was born in Gori. Does that city sound familiar to you?

Tito (a Croatian, who spent most of his young years close to Politburo) was Stalin's lapdog at that time, he did comply. There were numerous henchmen who made the crime happen: Serbs, Croats, Macedonians, Gypsies, Vlachs, Bosnians, Hungarians, Germans, Russians, Kalmyks... but the (Georgian) cockroach with mustache was on the top. I don't see, any direct connection between him and Serbia of Mr. Tadic. They (Serbs) have some with Tito, of course - but according his biographers he did regret the crime later.

Currently this is slowly investigated by official Serbia. Nothing is denied - and I hope, much will surface later.

Vojvodina will never break away from Serbia, because a large % have Serbian roots. These words are also uttered from a Vojvodjanin with Slovak, Serbian and Hungarian roots. Those that wish to instill hate and separtism will fail.

"The West is helping a province with a 65% Serbian population to break away from Serbia?
(Peter Sudyka, 29 September 2008 19:42"

Peter,
I think those may be outdated stats. With the influx of Serbian refugees, I believe Serbs are about to reach 80%+

Marko, since your from there, do you have the latest census data?

Freedom

So if a region with a 65% population being the same as the country it is supposedly wanting to break away from, can we assume that Srbska Krajina will break away from Croatia, or Silesia and Pommerania from Poland, or Kaliningrad Oblast from Russia, or Alsace-Lorranie from France? The list goes on, but anyway, the point I am trying to make is that you make very little sense when you ramble on like that.

Ataman (#14),

Thank you for telling "Freedom" some historical facts. He also forgot that many ethnic Germans in Serbia actively supported their Nazi country men when they occupied Yugoslavia and in addition in almost all of Europe Germans were chased away after the Nazi defeat (wonder why?) or many fled when the Nazi occupiers retreated for the advancing Red Army. After more than 17 years of anti-Serbian rhetoric in the Western media it has almost become standard to blame all (and I mean all, including all history and even the future) on Serbia and the Serbs. I would not surprise me if Western agents are also posting comments here to try and demotivate Serbs and their supporters. Unfortunately there are too many comments from little uneducated boys thinking that their actions will one day give them a free visa to the UK or the US. The Balkans are one of the most complex regions in the world with a complex and turbulent history and anybody who thinks that a simple forced solution is going to work is either mad or from a different planet or galaxy.

If there was no desire for Vojvodina to separate from Serbia, by some of its people, then why is it making the Headlines of B92.

The other ethnicities of Vojvodina feel that Serbia, because of its backward policies, is preventing them from entering the EU. And, who could blame them!

.... An interesting twist: while being educated at Jesuite seminary, stalin seem to be obsessed with the idea to revenge what he had against Catholic priests in his youth. I do not know, what fate had the Catholic priests in Croatia, but in Serbia/Vojvodina the Orthodox priests had some advantage: they weren't tortured and dismembered before killed (unlike their Catholic Hungarian and German colleagues).

There are strong rumors, he begun his carrier as a tsarist agent - who later turned over. If that is the truth, it matches perfectly his nature. There are many anecdotical stories how he killed his close friends, political allies, etc.

If there is a hell, stalin is being grilled in the hottest part of it.

No Separatism openly, but behind closed doors is something totally different.

Its funny how Beograd is still trying to get Kosova, but not realizing that Vojvodina is getting closer to breaking away and with lots of help from the West.

Freedom for All !!!

Whether I wish for Vojvodina to be independent doesn't make a difference, because the eventual Independence of Vojvodina is not going to be based on any of our opinions or feelings, but on a much larger group of people that are not even in Vojvodina and YES, Vojvodina will be Independent!

Taking Vojvodina ILLEGALLY from Hungary 88 years ago and then ethnically cleansing 500,000 Germans from Vojvodina will not be rewarded to Serbia, and that is something you all need to understand!!!

"No separatism in Vojvodina"

what else are they suppose to say even if they wanted to separate? Serbia is too small for provinces, that may work for USA, Russia, China, Canada etc.

Does Vojvodina have it's own flag like Montengro did?

Dashnori yes it as a flag and coat of arms, however it has 26 ethnic minorities and six official languages. So freedom who would exactly run it? The largest group are Serbs then followed by Hungarians. Dashnori maybe its the truth they dont want to seperate.

It is a truly multicultural part of Serbia, unlike Kosovo where Albanian narrow mindedness wants no other races there but there own, a really good advert for multicultural Europe.

If there was no desire for Vojvodina to separate from Serbia, by some of its people, then why is it making the Headlines of B92.

The other ethnicities of Vojvodina feel that Serbia, because of its backward policies, is preventing them from entering the EU. And, who could blame them!

Freedom

So if a region with a 65% population being the same as the country it is supposedly wanting to break away from, can we assume that Srbska Krajina will break away from Croatia, or Silesia and Pommerania from Poland, or Kaliningrad Oblast from Russia, or Alsace-Lorranie from France? The list goes on, but anyway, the point I am trying to make is that you make very little sense when you ramble on like that.

Yes, "Freedom", you wish. And who in Vojvodina do you think wants to break away, and why? Freedom for Gora!

Oh good I'm so glad to hear this. I mean the entire world except for Freedom knows this, but now that I read a statement from some V-Hungarian MP, I can completely put my mind to rest.

Hi Dash and Freedom. I am a Serb from Vojvodina and I assure you that we are not going to leave Serbia and niether are you. Despite heavy western involvment and patronage Kosovo's failure to become independent will serve as a cautionary tale for other regionalist/racist states.

Dashnori i Ceces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Vojvodina.svg

Freedom

The West is helping a province with a 65% Serbian population to break away from Serbia?

But not realizing that Vojvodina is getting closer to breaking away and with lots of help from the West.

Freedom for All !!!
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 18:22)

You guys got a Nobel prize of physics? Apparently there are two Vojvodinas. One is in this world, the other is behind a space-time-reality wall, accessible only for K-Albanians. It's impossible to experience it for simple mortals.

Vojvodina will never break away from Serbia, because a large % have Serbian roots. These words are also uttered from a Vojvodjanin with Slovak, Serbian and Hungarian roots. Those that wish to instill hate and separtism will fail.

"The West is helping a province with a 65% Serbian population to break away from Serbia?
(Peter Sudyka, 29 September 2008 19:42"

Peter,
I think those may be outdated stats. With the influx of Serbian refugees, I believe Serbs are about to reach 80%+

Marko, since your from there, do you have the latest census data?

"Whether I wish for Vojvodina to be independent doesn't make a difference, because the eventual Independence of Vojvodina is not going to be based on any of our opinions or feelings, but on a much larger group of people that are not even in Vojvodina and YES, Vojvodina will be Independent!

Taking Vojvodina ILLEGALLY from Hungary 88 years ago and then ethnically cleansing 500,000 Germans from Vojvodina will not be rewarded to Serbia, and that is something you all need to understand!!!
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 20:09) "

Freedom,

Are you from Mars or what? You don't seem to know that two thirds of Vojvodina's people are Serbs!

On a much larger group of people that are not even in Vojvodina and YES, Vojvodina will be Independent!
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 20:09)

You mean... the miniscule, politically insignificant but very loud neonazi group around our "well-respected" political hooligan, I mean, Führer Toroczkai László, who was banned from Canada, Slovakia, Serbia, Romania and had to face the judge in Hungary? The one who was behind the Budapest riots 2006, 2007 and recent attacks on joined Roma/Democrat demonstrators in Budapest? The glorious group who in Oct. 2006 wanted to kill all "Croatian Chetniks" - and as proof, vandalized the Népliget metro station near Fradi stadium because they could march South only that far before being locked up by the riot police?

If so, your nick is incorrect, you should call yourself "Brown Plague", "Green Arrowcross" maybe "Black Swastika" instead of "Freedom". :(

Other forces besides these Nobel Prize winners do not exist.

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ethnically cleansing 500,000 Germans from Vojvodina will not be rewarded to Serbia
(Freedom, 29 September 2008 20:09)

Indeed, there was a number of German and Hungarian civil victims. It is in tens of thousands, probably around 100000 (hundred K) Hungarians and Germans combined. The cleansing was ordered by a certain "gentleman" who spoke Russian with strong GEORGIAN accent and who was born in Gori. Does that city sound familiar to you?

Tito (a Croatian, who spent most of his young years close to Politburo) was Stalin's lapdog at that time, he did comply. There were numerous henchmen who made the crime happen: Serbs, Croats, Macedonians, Gypsies, Vlachs, Bosnians, Hungarians, Germans, Russians, Kalmyks... but the (Georgian) cockroach with mustache was on the top. I don't see, any direct connection between him and Serbia of Mr. Tadic. They (Serbs) have some with Tito, of course - but according his biographers he did regret the crime later.

Currently this is slowly investigated by official Serbia. Nothing is denied - and I hope, much will surface later.

Ataman (#14),

Thank you for telling "Freedom" some historical facts. He also forgot that many ethnic Germans in Serbia actively supported their Nazi country men when they occupied Yugoslavia and in addition in almost all of Europe Germans were chased away after the Nazi defeat (wonder why?) or many fled when the Nazi occupiers retreated for the advancing Red Army. After more than 17 years of anti-Serbian rhetoric in the Western media it has almost become standard to blame all (and I mean all, including all history and even the future) on Serbia and the Serbs. I would not surprise me if Western agents are also posting comments here to try and demotivate Serbs and their supporters. Unfortunately there are too many comments from little uneducated boys thinking that their actions will one day give them a free visa to the UK or the US. The Balkans are one of the most complex regions in the world with a complex and turbulent history and anybody who thinks that a simple forced solution is going to work is either mad or from a different planet or galaxy.

.... An interesting twist: while being educated at Jesuite seminary, stalin seem to be obsessed with the idea to revenge what he had against Catholic priests in his youth. I do not know, what fate had the Catholic priests in Croatia, but in Serbia/Vojvodina the Orthodox priests had some advantage: they weren't tortured and dismembered before killed (unlike their Catholic Hungarian and German colleagues).

There are strong rumors, he begun his carrier as a tsarist agent - who later turned over. If that is the truth, it matches perfectly his nature. There are many anecdotical stories how he killed his close friends, political allies, etc.

If there is a hell, stalin is being grilled in the hottest part of it.