Egypt: Serbia defending rights

Cairo obviously remembered 1967 when Israel, armed to the teeth by America, invaded and occupied the whole of Egypt's Sinai peninsula. Which the Israelis had to return in the end.

Congratulations to Eygpt for its principled stance in wanting to uphold international norms and laws and recognising that a negotiated solution must be the optimal way forward to find a

"Win-Win"

solution acceptable to all of Serbia's citizens (irrespective of ethinicity) in its UN recognised soverign province.

Surely its time for the Serbian Albanians to face reality of the (Serbian) state they are in for the sake of economic development and to build a truly european future for all Serbian citizens. The EU after all is about breaking down borders not creating artifial ones amongst ethnically diverse communities!

is Egypt super power in the world or just looser power in the world
(medioni, 29 September 2008 12:49)

Well that was certainly a constructive reply.

The statement is indicative of which way the Arab and Muslim states will vote - overwhelming majority for Serbia.

For Serbia - ex Soviet Central Asian states (the stans & Azerbaijan)

+ Secular Arab governments: Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Libya & the Maghreb.

+ Islamic states: Sudan. Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia, Kuwait, Yemen etc.

Against: Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Turkey & UAE.

Only 5 of the OIC states have recognised 'Kosova'. Serbia has the Arab & Islamic vote pretty much wrapped up :)

predictor

An Albanian calling Serbs weapon and drug traffickers? Have you seen who is the world's leader in the latter markets on Interpol's site? Have a look, you will probably get a rude shock.

BTW this is not an attack on Albanians, but unfortunately the truth hurts sometimes.

There is a win-win; it is defined in 1244 as autonomy. The mono-ethnic ambitions of the Albanians in Kosovo predate Milosevic. No one has moral high-ground here.

It is proved that the kosovo UDI is not about religion but a political one. thus majority or almost all of islamic countries will backed the ICJ initiative since international law matters most.

Very strange for Egypt to take this stand. If I was an old cynical I would have used the old cliché about Egypt’s government not representing its own people. But that’s not really applicable as Egypt’s government represents very little indeed.
Thank god fate of Kosova was decided by the West. If we were to wait on these corrupt Arab governments we would have waited twice as long as Palestine, only to have a massive wall build around us.

Village-bey # 15,

I don't understand your point. You already advanced the stage of building the walls - Albanians spent most of their money bulding huge walls around their houses and properties - you don't need sombody else to do that for you . You showed great skill and devotion building those walls.

This is a lesson of diplomacy given by a smart 33-years young man. Just have a look and wonder about Mr. Jeremic's success among arab countries. He is representing a nation whose amry is responsible for killing about 8000 boys and men in Srebrebica, just because they were muslims. The mastermind of this, General Mladic enjoys hight reputation and respest. In the case of Kosovo about one million people were deployed, in the final analysis because they turned to islam centaries ago.
Despite this burden Mr. Jeremic has managed to activate romantized connections of a country that is gone long ago -Yugaslawia- with the arab world so the latest past doesn't play any rolle.

One must "confess", what Vuk's achieving is nothing less than admirable.

first of all, congrats to the Egypt State for standing strong on the side of international law. that shows a certain maturity that others did not show.

as for Jeremic, I would not say that it is his achievement alone, since there are many other factors involved, ...but I think that it is quite intersting that no one of our dear albanian friends had the idea to post one of these "bonus-miles" comments here...

seems like diplomacy does pay off.

and the level of desperation can be also seen in the reactions here, just take "Albanian" who feels the need to point out how much the Albanians are " a warlike race " ...

if nonsense like that makes him feel better, so be it.

I´d just ask then, if they are so hard-boiled... why did they almost completely convert to the religion of the invaders? why did they not stick to the religion of their ancestors, just like the Serbs did, although being occupied for five centuries?

as Peter Sedyka said it: sometimes truth hurts.

and of course, NOT EVERY Albanian is a drug trafficker or criminal, what a nonsense.

the overwhelming part of them is just normal people, who want to live in peace and prosperity, WITHOUT CRIME.

what Mr. Sedyka wanted to point out, seems quite clear here, doesn´t it?
it is nonsense accusing the Serbs of these things, when it is guys of the own ethnicity who are dominating the interpol-"wanted"-lists...

In this situation there aren't any win-win possibilities. There has to be a winner and a loser following the ethno-political background of this mess.

is Egypt super power in the world or just looser power in the world

Princip, Gracanica

Niall O'Doherty

I will leave you with Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Sudan, Jordan, Libya etc. and we will be satisfied with the rest of the world recognizing us, while we don’t care about some Muslim countries that support terrorism, and these countries are ready to support Serbia initiative because of the long term drug and weapon dealing with them.
Serbian politics had always tried to represent Kosova as one of the drug transporting point and as one “mujahedin” place, and tried to represent UCK as a Muslim terrorist organization, but reading articles similar as this one here in B-92 shows the best that whose friend are countries like f. e Iran and Indonesia.
However, we sincerely thank all Muslim and Arab countries that supports Kosova on its path towards development as an independent and sovereign country.

Gustave

"If you really cared to express an unbiased opinion on Albanians you should have refrained from constantly associating us with "trafficking",
"middle-eastern culture", "terrorists" that "Nato will bomb to the stone age" (this last one several times, as if you are itching and praying for that to happen)."

When an Albanian associates any other country with crime, as predictor did, yes, I do point it out. You did the same later on in your reply.

To refute what you said:

1) I don't associate Albanians with trafficking, I just use it as an example when they associate others, just like predictor did.

2) When ben called us Slavs "Asiatic" and "Third World", yes, I did call Albanians "Middle-Eastern" to emphasize the narrow-mindedness and ridiculousness of his post and put him in his place. I associate Albania with other Balkan countries that were a part of Greece, Rome, Byzantium and Ottoman domination in the past.

3) I have never associated Albanians with terrorists. I do associate ANA and KLA past attacks on policemen, civilians and infrastructure with terrorism, but that is what it is, what else would anyone else call them?

4) Regarding NATO bombing Albanian separatists, no, I am not itching for NATO to bomb anyone, but if Albanian separatists were to destabilize the region with their land demands, then of course NATO should bomb them. Same would go for Serbian, Croatian and any other nationalists who want to destabilize the region with their territorial demands.

To conclude, you are obviously overly sensitive and somewhat irrational when you see any criticism of Albania or Albanians.

"Finally Peter get to learn how Interpol works, that is the collaboration of countries."

I know how Interpol works, though your argument still does not sound all that convincing when you have over 200 wanted Albanian criminals, while the rest of Europe's countries don't go over 20-30 of them, not to mention for less extreme crimes. Also, proportions do not work in Albania's favour, given the small population.

Oh, and one more thing:

"Sometimes it is better to mind and settle your own problems first before pointing fingers"

You see? When someone accuses Albanians of crime, what do you do? You did the same as I did. Maybe this means you are biased against Poles ;-)?

Conclusion: relax, I have nothing against Albanian people at all. I do not like criminals, nationalists and terrorists, regardless of their nationality. I dislike Polish nationalists and criminals as much as others.

Egypt will recognise Kosova indipendence in October. Your ambasador is not informed. Case closed.

Doesn't mean anything,few european country's that recognised independent Kosova said the same thing.Mr,Vuk achived really nothing.Everybody knows that Arab states can not speak with one voice, and they are very disorganised,Mr Vuk is a magnet for suckers like this. Thanks

Egypt must be upset at US despite US giving them billions a year for peace with Israel.

Regarding their relationship with Serbia: The modern founder of Egypt was an ethnic Albanian and ruled for 150 years until 1950s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt

It would be great if they voted for it and recognized Kosova, but who knows

ham:
> Egypt will recognise Kosova indipendence in October. Your ambasador is not informed. Case closed.

Well, since you've said so, must be right then. But just out of curiousity, what is your source? Hope it wasn't Sejdiu's office ;)


Dashnori i Ceces:
> ... and ruled for 150 years until 1950s.

Believe you mean his dynasty ruled for that period & interesting article - wasn't aware of the history.

Murderous old so-and-so wasn't he.

uli

I did not call Albanians drug traffickers, I was pointing out to predictor who was calling Serbs weapon and drug traffickers when it is Albanians who have the highest amount of wanted criminals responsible for those crimes on Interpol's site. Nowhere did I say all Albanians are traffickers.

Not dear at all Peter Sudyka :

If you really cared to express an unbiased opinion on Albanians you should have refrained from constantly associating us with "trafficking",
"middle-eastern culture", "terrorists" that "Nato will bomb to the stone age" (this last one several times, as if you are itching and praying for that to happen).
Such repetitive comments of yours show that you have a problem. I do not know what it is, but it POLITELY ask you to deal with it before writing another comment on
Albanian-related affairs. We already have plenty of neighbours to badmouth us, but a Pole?

If that's all you know on Albania, I suggest you to seek someone who has been there and get informed, plenty of Poles (among other Euripeans) visit central and north Albania
every year in increasing numbers, I have personally hosted and guided several and I didn't offer any AK-s or heroin to them on their way back to Torun, I swear on it.

Finally Peter get to learn how Interpol works, that is the collaboration of countries. When Albanian authorities share all their information, others like the Chinese,
Russians, Italians etc do not. That is why hundreds of La Ndrangheta mafiosi operate on all continents, especially in South America where Salvatore Caruso from Calabria rules,
yet Interpol has almost nothing on them. Same for Greeks from Crete who used to come to Albania to get guns since Greek border guards don't check Greek citizes.

Sometimes it is better to mind and settle your own problems first before pointing fingers:

http://albanianrealitycheck.blogspot.com/2007/08/those-albanians-theyre-all-liars.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483450/A-fifth-crimes-committed-immigrants.html

dd,
Maybe building walls around our houses is a conditional reflex on our national psyche. Nonetheless I was talking about a different kind of wall. Normally those who hold power, pull all the strings. We have had the luxury for only 8 months, not long enough to build a garden shed considering our constructions skills.
Anyway today I’m in a reconciliatory mood as this evening marks the end of a very long month for me. As u might have gathered, me here and Princip in Gracanica, have got religion.
All the best to you.

Just to understand: Wasn't the serbian position until some months ago against the creation of the state of Kosova because that would build up a muslim state in the heart of europe??? Wasn't one of the arguments against the independence the fact that the se "muslim-terrorists-drugdealers -fanatic" states of the middle east then can do anything and can spread their hate among christians??? Wasn't, according to the serbian sources, the creation of the state of Kosova an ambition of these countries and financed by them?? What has happened in the meanwhile guys?? Something went on the wrong way? Can anyone explain me wht has happened gently 'cos I'm extremely confused and upset after reading these comments. An attack of hilarity has catched me and it doesn't want to go...

Rovena,

You are missunderstanding and confusing who said what. It was never Serbia's position nor argument that Kosovo cannot be independent because it will be Muslim.


Ironically that was US argument FOR Kosovo independence because they wanted to 'show' the Muslim world how Americans love Muslims by forecfully carving up another country and making Muslim country in the middle of Europe.

Their first failuire in that retrospect came when Muslims of other nationalities were expelled from the province following UDI.

If the Egyptian envoy has nostalgia for the brotherhood of the 1950's well why not.As long as we could forgive but not forget more recently the crimes against non-Serbs in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990's.The comments in this side sugest that we should not go back to the wars, Milosevic or moral high ground or this and that,but as the Egyptian envoy is making a point about the past ,it all makes sense.We can not and will not just forget as nothing happened. And in dooing so we are moving forward.I am not sure i can say the same for Serbia.

Lyan, you wrote: ex Soviet Central Asian states (the stans & Azerbaijan) Just for your information you "forgot" one country. The Kyrgyz Republic. Many say/write always Kyrgyzstan but that never existed and does not exist now, only in Anglo-countries. So, I fully agree with your comment but please, the Kyrgyz Republic. regards from Bishkek.
@Medioni? what do you mean for g... sake??

--"Albanians spent most of their money bulding huge walls around their houses and properties"

Take a guess why? It was so the Turkish soldiers wouldn't look at Albanian women. And of course for privacy reason and protection (when you are in your house no one can touch you according to Albanian custom). You see, you learned something new when you just spewed some empty rhetoric to insult the Albanians.

As may know (or not) Albanians, always had guns, Catholics and Muslims. When the Turks tried to take them away, it was a rebellion, and a very costly one for the Turks. Albanians had 54 such rebellions, someone actually counted them, and eventually the Turks left Albanians alone.

You should read history written by impartial authors before insulting others. Start here:

"The Albanians were a warlike and unruly race..."

"The warlike and faithful character of the Albanian soldiers..."

"But with this bravery there is mingled among many Albanian tribes a great savagery. Human life is lightly valued among these warlike peoples..."

"They are "warlike, lawless," but with a strict code of honor..."

"The warlike habits of the Albanians were displayed even in their town life..."
http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=albanian%20warlike&um=1&sa=N&tab=wp

Let me just remind people of this world that "Yugoslavia" was a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural state that included many different entities including serbia AND Kosovo/a. so please do spare me this historical revisionist nonsense about the nostalgia for dear old yugoslvia. which is very different from serboslavia. it is the most bizarre thing that the belgrade regime claims some kind of monopoly on yugoslavia. it is not true -- it is a lie.

as far as egypt or any other country going against us (pro-democracy, pro-independence side), i have said it many times: we appreciate and thank our frnds and allies around the world, who can see thru the fog, or shall i say the smog, and supports our battle. yes, jeremic has spent his many millions of dinars quite well; i mean assuming you don't give a hoot for the lives of every-day people and just want to keep up the tensions, the demagoguery. he is good at what he does, let's put it that way. he and mr. kissinger should strike up a very close frndshp indeed.

the UNGA date is oct. 8th, and we must continue to lobby for our side, and continue the battle, now and in the future. do not give in -- we have made such strides, and this is just a bump in the road, albeit a potentially nasty one.

Peter Seduka. Im an Albanian myself and im not a drug trafficant. I n matter of fact i dont have any of my friends as well to do any illegal activities.. Why do you insult me , saying albanians are drug trafficants?

Egypt not recognizing Albanian Kosovo hm
Maybe the Communists are against because it should be otherwise
Muhammad Ali Pasha the Albanian born king of Egypt the one who formed modern Egypt on ruins of Ottoman empire and who's Albanian dynasty ruled Egypt for 147 years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_Dynasty

Egyptians knows this OR

is Egypt super power in the world or just looser power in the world

Doesn't mean anything,few european country's that recognised independent Kosova said the same thing.Mr,Vuk achived really nothing.Everybody knows that Arab states can not speak with one voice, and they are very disorganised,Mr Vuk is a magnet for suckers like this. Thanks

Princip, Gracanica

Niall O'Doherty

I will leave you with Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Sudan, Jordan, Libya etc. and we will be satisfied with the rest of the world recognizing us, while we don’t care about some Muslim countries that support terrorism, and these countries are ready to support Serbia initiative because of the long term drug and weapon dealing with them.
Serbian politics had always tried to represent Kosova as one of the drug transporting point and as one “mujahedin” place, and tried to represent UCK as a Muslim terrorist organization, but reading articles similar as this one here in B-92 shows the best that whose friend are countries like f. e Iran and Indonesia.
However, we sincerely thank all Muslim and Arab countries that supports Kosova on its path towards development as an independent and sovereign country.

predictor

An Albanian calling Serbs weapon and drug traffickers? Have you seen who is the world's leader in the latter markets on Interpol's site? Have a look, you will probably get a rude shock.

BTW this is not an attack on Albanians, but unfortunately the truth hurts sometimes.

Egypt will recognise Kosova indipendence in October. Your ambasador is not informed. Case closed.

This is a lesson of diplomacy given by a smart 33-years young man. Just have a look and wonder about Mr. Jeremic's success among arab countries. He is representing a nation whose amry is responsible for killing about 8000 boys and men in Srebrebica, just because they were muslims. The mastermind of this, General Mladic enjoys hight reputation and respest. In the case of Kosovo about one million people were deployed, in the final analysis because they turned to islam centaries ago.
Despite this burden Mr. Jeremic has managed to activate romantized connections of a country that is gone long ago -Yugaslawia- with the arab world so the latest past doesn't play any rolle.

One must "confess", what Vuk's achieving is nothing less than admirable.

Gustave

"If you really cared to express an unbiased opinion on Albanians you should have refrained from constantly associating us with "trafficking",
"middle-eastern culture", "terrorists" that "Nato will bomb to the stone age" (this last one several times, as if you are itching and praying for that to happen)."

When an Albanian associates any other country with crime, as predictor did, yes, I do point it out. You did the same later on in your reply.

To refute what you said:

1) I don't associate Albanians with trafficking, I just use it as an example when they associate others, just like predictor did.

2) When ben called us Slavs "Asiatic" and "Third World", yes, I did call Albanians "Middle-Eastern" to emphasize the narrow-mindedness and ridiculousness of his post and put him in his place. I associate Albania with other Balkan countries that were a part of Greece, Rome, Byzantium and Ottoman domination in the past.

3) I have never associated Albanians with terrorists. I do associate ANA and KLA past attacks on policemen, civilians and infrastructure with terrorism, but that is what it is, what else would anyone else call them?

4) Regarding NATO bombing Albanian separatists, no, I am not itching for NATO to bomb anyone, but if Albanian separatists were to destabilize the region with their land demands, then of course NATO should bomb them. Same would go for Serbian, Croatian and any other nationalists who want to destabilize the region with their territorial demands.

To conclude, you are obviously overly sensitive and somewhat irrational when you see any criticism of Albania or Albanians.

"Finally Peter get to learn how Interpol works, that is the collaboration of countries."

I know how Interpol works, though your argument still does not sound all that convincing when you have over 200 wanted Albanian criminals, while the rest of Europe's countries don't go over 20-30 of them, not to mention for less extreme crimes. Also, proportions do not work in Albania's favour, given the small population.

Oh, and one more thing:

"Sometimes it is better to mind and settle your own problems first before pointing fingers"

You see? When someone accuses Albanians of crime, what do you do? You did the same as I did. Maybe this means you are biased against Poles ;-)?

Conclusion: relax, I have nothing against Albanian people at all. I do not like criminals, nationalists and terrorists, regardless of their nationality. I dislike Polish nationalists and criminals as much as others.

Cairo obviously remembered 1967 when Israel, armed to the teeth by America, invaded and occupied the whole of Egypt's Sinai peninsula. Which the Israelis had to return in the end.

Egypt must be upset at US despite US giving them billions a year for peace with Israel.

Regarding their relationship with Serbia: The modern founder of Egypt was an ethnic Albanian and ruled for 150 years until 1950s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt

It would be great if they voted for it and recognized Kosova, but who knows

Very strange for Egypt to take this stand. If I was an old cynical I would have used the old cliché about Egypt’s government not representing its own people. But that’s not really applicable as Egypt’s government represents very little indeed.
Thank god fate of Kosova was decided by the West. If we were to wait on these corrupt Arab governments we would have waited twice as long as Palestine, only to have a massive wall build around us.

dd,
Maybe building walls around our houses is a conditional reflex on our national psyche. Nonetheless I was talking about a different kind of wall. Normally those who hold power, pull all the strings. We have had the luxury for only 8 months, not long enough to build a garden shed considering our constructions skills.
Anyway today I’m in a reconciliatory mood as this evening marks the end of a very long month for me. As u might have gathered, me here and Princip in Gracanica, have got religion.
All the best to you.

Let me just remind people of this world that "Yugoslavia" was a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural state that included many different entities including serbia AND Kosovo/a. so please do spare me this historical revisionist nonsense about the nostalgia for dear old yugoslvia. which is very different from serboslavia. it is the most bizarre thing that the belgrade regime claims some kind of monopoly on yugoslavia. it is not true -- it is a lie.

as far as egypt or any other country going against us (pro-democracy, pro-independence side), i have said it many times: we appreciate and thank our frnds and allies around the world, who can see thru the fog, or shall i say the smog, and supports our battle. yes, jeremic has spent his many millions of dinars quite well; i mean assuming you don't give a hoot for the lives of every-day people and just want to keep up the tensions, the demagoguery. he is good at what he does, let's put it that way. he and mr. kissinger should strike up a very close frndshp indeed.

the UNGA date is oct. 8th, and we must continue to lobby for our side, and continue the battle, now and in the future. do not give in -- we have made such strides, and this is just a bump in the road, albeit a potentially nasty one.

Not dear at all Peter Sudyka :

If you really cared to express an unbiased opinion on Albanians you should have refrained from constantly associating us with "trafficking",
"middle-eastern culture", "terrorists" that "Nato will bomb to the stone age" (this last one several times, as if you are itching and praying for that to happen).
Such repetitive comments of yours show that you have a problem. I do not know what it is, but it POLITELY ask you to deal with it before writing another comment on
Albanian-related affairs. We already have plenty of neighbours to badmouth us, but a Pole?

If that's all you know on Albania, I suggest you to seek someone who has been there and get informed, plenty of Poles (among other Euripeans) visit central and north Albania
every year in increasing numbers, I have personally hosted and guided several and I didn't offer any AK-s or heroin to them on their way back to Torun, I swear on it.

Finally Peter get to learn how Interpol works, that is the collaboration of countries. When Albanian authorities share all their information, others like the Chinese,
Russians, Italians etc do not. That is why hundreds of La Ndrangheta mafiosi operate on all continents, especially in South America where Salvatore Caruso from Calabria rules,
yet Interpol has almost nothing on them. Same for Greeks from Crete who used to come to Albania to get guns since Greek border guards don't check Greek citizes.

Sometimes it is better to mind and settle your own problems first before pointing fingers:

http://albanianrealitycheck.blogspot.com/2007/08/those-albanians-theyre-all-liars.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483450/A-fifth-crimes-committed-immigrants.html

Just to understand: Wasn't the serbian position until some months ago against the creation of the state of Kosova because that would build up a muslim state in the heart of europe??? Wasn't one of the arguments against the independence the fact that the se "muslim-terrorists-drugdealers -fanatic" states of the middle east then can do anything and can spread their hate among christians??? Wasn't, according to the serbian sources, the creation of the state of Kosova an ambition of these countries and financed by them?? What has happened in the meanwhile guys?? Something went on the wrong way? Can anyone explain me wht has happened gently 'cos I'm extremely confused and upset after reading these comments. An attack of hilarity has catched me and it doesn't want to go...

In this situation there aren't any win-win possibilities. There has to be a winner and a loser following the ethno-political background of this mess.

There is a win-win; it is defined in 1244 as autonomy. The mono-ethnic ambitions of the Albanians in Kosovo predate Milosevic. No one has moral high-ground here.

Congratulations to Eygpt for its principled stance in wanting to uphold international norms and laws and recognising that a negotiated solution must be the optimal way forward to find a

"Win-Win"

solution acceptable to all of Serbia's citizens (irrespective of ethinicity) in its UN recognised soverign province.

Surely its time for the Serbian Albanians to face reality of the (Serbian) state they are in for the sake of economic development and to build a truly european future for all Serbian citizens. The EU after all is about breaking down borders not creating artifial ones amongst ethnically diverse communities!

The statement is indicative of which way the Arab and Muslim states will vote - overwhelming majority for Serbia.

For Serbia - ex Soviet Central Asian states (the stans & Azerbaijan)

+ Secular Arab governments: Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Libya & the Maghreb.

+ Islamic states: Sudan. Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia, Kuwait, Yemen etc.

Against: Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Turkey & UAE.

Only 5 of the OIC states have recognised 'Kosova'. Serbia has the Arab & Islamic vote pretty much wrapped up :)

It is proved that the kosovo UDI is not about religion but a political one. thus majority or almost all of islamic countries will backed the ICJ initiative since international law matters most.

If the Egyptian envoy has nostalgia for the brotherhood of the 1950's well why not.As long as we could forgive but not forget more recently the crimes against non-Serbs in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990's.The comments in this side sugest that we should not go back to the wars, Milosevic or moral high ground or this and that,but as the Egyptian envoy is making a point about the past ,it all makes sense.We can not and will not just forget as nothing happened. And in dooing so we are moving forward.I am not sure i can say the same for Serbia.

--"Albanians spent most of their money bulding huge walls around their houses and properties"

Take a guess why? It was so the Turkish soldiers wouldn't look at Albanian women. And of course for privacy reason and protection (when you are in your house no one can touch you according to Albanian custom). You see, you learned something new when you just spewed some empty rhetoric to insult the Albanians.

As may know (or not) Albanians, always had guns, Catholics and Muslims. When the Turks tried to take them away, it was a rebellion, and a very costly one for the Turks. Albanians had 54 such rebellions, someone actually counted them, and eventually the Turks left Albanians alone.

You should read history written by impartial authors before insulting others. Start here:

"The Albanians were a warlike and unruly race..."

"The warlike and faithful character of the Albanian soldiers..."

"But with this bravery there is mingled among many Albanian tribes a great savagery. Human life is lightly valued among these warlike peoples..."

"They are "warlike, lawless," but with a strict code of honor..."

"The warlike habits of the Albanians were displayed even in their town life..."
http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=albanian%20warlike&um=1&sa=N&tab=wp

Peter Seduka. Im an Albanian myself and im not a drug trafficant. I n matter of fact i dont have any of my friends as well to do any illegal activities.. Why do you insult me , saying albanians are drug trafficants?

Egypt not recognizing Albanian Kosovo hm
Maybe the Communists are against because it should be otherwise
Muhammad Ali Pasha the Albanian born king of Egypt the one who formed modern Egypt on ruins of Ottoman empire and who's Albanian dynasty ruled Egypt for 147 years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_Dynasty

Egyptians knows this OR

is Egypt super power in the world or just looser power in the world
(medioni, 29 September 2008 12:49)

Well that was certainly a constructive reply.

Village-bey # 15,

I don't understand your point. You already advanced the stage of building the walls - Albanians spent most of their money bulding huge walls around their houses and properties - you don't need sombody else to do that for you . You showed great skill and devotion building those walls.

Lyan, you wrote: ex Soviet Central Asian states (the stans & Azerbaijan) Just for your information you "forgot" one country. The Kyrgyz Republic. Many say/write always Kyrgyzstan but that never existed and does not exist now, only in Anglo-countries. So, I fully agree with your comment but please, the Kyrgyz Republic. regards from Bishkek.
@Medioni? what do you mean for g... sake??

ham:
> Egypt will recognise Kosova indipendence in October. Your ambasador is not informed. Case closed.

Well, since you've said so, must be right then. But just out of curiousity, what is your source? Hope it wasn't Sejdiu's office ;)


Dashnori i Ceces:
> ... and ruled for 150 years until 1950s.

Believe you mean his dynasty ruled for that period & interesting article - wasn't aware of the history.

Murderous old so-and-so wasn't he.

uli

I did not call Albanians drug traffickers, I was pointing out to predictor who was calling Serbs weapon and drug traffickers when it is Albanians who have the highest amount of wanted criminals responsible for those crimes on Interpol's site. Nowhere did I say all Albanians are traffickers.

first of all, congrats to the Egypt State for standing strong on the side of international law. that shows a certain maturity that others did not show.

as for Jeremic, I would not say that it is his achievement alone, since there are many other factors involved, ...but I think that it is quite intersting that no one of our dear albanian friends had the idea to post one of these "bonus-miles" comments here...

seems like diplomacy does pay off.

and the level of desperation can be also seen in the reactions here, just take "Albanian" who feels the need to point out how much the Albanians are " a warlike race " ...

if nonsense like that makes him feel better, so be it.

I´d just ask then, if they are so hard-boiled... why did they almost completely convert to the religion of the invaders? why did they not stick to the religion of their ancestors, just like the Serbs did, although being occupied for five centuries?

as Peter Sedyka said it: sometimes truth hurts.

and of course, NOT EVERY Albanian is a drug trafficker or criminal, what a nonsense.

the overwhelming part of them is just normal people, who want to live in peace and prosperity, WITHOUT CRIME.

what Mr. Sedyka wanted to point out, seems quite clear here, doesn´t it?
it is nonsense accusing the Serbs of these things, when it is guys of the own ethnicity who are dominating the interpol-"wanted"-lists...

Rovena,

You are missunderstanding and confusing who said what. It was never Serbia's position nor argument that Kosovo cannot be independent because it will be Muslim.


Ironically that was US argument FOR Kosovo independence because they wanted to 'show' the Muslim world how Americans love Muslims by forecfully carving up another country and making Muslim country in the middle of Europe.

Their first failuire in that retrospect came when Muslims of other nationalities were expelled from the province following UDI.