Silajdžić blasts RS from UN podium

If I had a hard time understanding Bosnia before, now it all makes sense. How can people live together in peace when people like Silajdžić are giving these hate-speeches over and over again?

If Serbia and Montenegro could be separated, then surely Muslims and Serbs in Bosnia can be separated. After all Serbs and Montenegrins have much more in common (religion, culture etc) than Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims.

The bodies are UNIDENTIFIED and they are counting "parts" which increases the number. These bodies are found exactly where people were killed in WWII massacre sites which weren't dug up.

Many of the bodies have been unidentified for over a decade which means those aren't Muslims.

Plus the Muslim dead in Srebrenica are virtually all army members.

Killing enemy soldiers during war time is not genocide.

There have been over 1,000,000 Iraqis who've died since the U.S. invasion and occupation yet that isn't called a genocide.

The Bosnian Muslim population is the same percentage of Bosnia as it was prewar proving there was not genocide.

As well, Silajdžić visited concentration camps where Serbs were held during the war. A Serb who survived the Bosnian-Muslim run Silo concentration camp at Tarcin saw him there, along with Izetbegovic who was secured on his visit by Malaysian UN guards.

We can see the disproved bloated figures of the Bosnian war are use - when the total for all three sides is less than half that - and it includes all the missing.

Plus the majority dead in the '90s Bosnian war were combatants, not civilians.

Looks like Silajdžić created another fissure in the already divided artificial country of BiH. With such a venomous and hateful speech it is now more evident than ever that the country must be broken into three.

Wow, if anyone is asking for a split within BiH then it's this guy. Doesn't he realise that the Red Cross figures include Serbians killed and raped also? His speech really does sound a little desperate and I suspect it all has to do with the Bosnian Federation going bankrupt while Republika Srpska continues to thrive!

Speeches such as this show why Bosnia cannot survive in it's current form. My advice to Silajdzic is to keep his gob shut if he values Bosnia in it's present borders. My gut instinct tells me that RS is on the verge of leaving. Lets hope another war doesn't break out.

There is such a stench of genocide denial in some of the comments on this article that it is quite remarkable. Such views ignore the underlying FACT that RS was the direct result and creature of genocide (ICJ ruling), ethnic cleansing, war crimes and crimes against humanity (based on countless Hague rulings).

The RS leadership has run an extensive campaign of extremist threats, sabotage (i.e. the recent pull-out from Elektroprenos) and ultra-nationalist rhetoric. Dr Silajdzic has every right to respond to such unacceptable abuses of power.

Not to mention the current corruption investigations of Milorad Dodik, and the illegal attempt by the RS to hire international lobbyists as a de-facto foreign affairs arm.

The hostility towards Bosnia by the RS leadership is unfounded, but when someone raises FACTS about justice for the victims of the genocide - then the RS feels like it is being attacked. Obviously because it itself was the cause of unspeakable crimes of genocide. Continued denial of this, including by those in Serbia, will not help the Serb agenda.

The RS has no historical basis for existence and is a monoethnic xenophobic artificial creation that abuses and contravenes all levels of human dignity and justice.

Bosnia and Herzegovina is sick and tired of putting up with people who "...have no emotional attachment to Bosnia-Herzegovina, nor do [they] love it" (quote from Dodik, Sept 2008).

I challenge the genocide deniers on these posts to think long and hard about what future and hostility they are propagating in the region for the generations to come.

If the RS secedes (and i think they should), they should be allowed to. Kosovo is definately a precedent. But this would put the Serbs in a tough situation. If Srbija recgonizes RS, then they have to let kosovo go...and unfortuantely, i think thats the smartest thing to do....Kosovo has the highest growth rate in Europe and one of the top in the world, soon there will be 2.5 million albanians. Theres no way of putting them under our jurisdiction again (aside from war, but hopefully that never happens). We have to fight for N. Kosovo, and for the RS. Think! A srbija with its second (or third, whatever) biggest city is banja luka. Closer and closer to Europe we will be.

On the topic of haris siljadzic, its pretty obvious his bias and that things are not done properlly in BiH.

Quick note: RS is more multierthnic than the federation. So enough of the propaganda! I feel ike im listening to the Bush administration right now! lol

It is becoming clear that the only solution to achieving long standing peace and co-operation in the Balkans is with the independence of Republika Srpska and the Croat cantons of the Federation of BiH.

Bosnia is an artifical country which doesn't function and no co-operation would exit without the presence of the international community, which also gives the false impression abroad that it is one country.

Nothing can be further from the truth. The majority of Serbs and Croats do not consider themselves Bosnians and or want to live in such an imposed state. During the dissolution of Yugoslavia, the arguments were that the six republics couldn't be forced to live in the federation against their will. The same arguement was used to justify the Kosovo Albanians unilateral declaration, but when it comes to Bosnia the will of the Croat and Serbian people is overlooked.

Haris Silajdzic is a negative political personality, a relic of an unforunate past who doesn't understand that in a democracy he can't force the other nations of Bosnia to live in the kind of state that he believes should exist. And in that I believe that it would be his unfounded zeal to reverse the structures that ended the war and create an illusionary 'united' Bosnia that will led to it's final fragmentation.

RS should declare independence from Bosnia since Silajdzic does not believed in co-existence. His hate speeches truly dismal.

Another proof of the genocide unearthed today.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE48N51N20080924

Once again Bosnian Muslim politicians have showed their opened animosity toward part of their own country. By this kind of behavior they are, although indirectly, giving the space for Serbian extremists within Bosnia who are just waiting to have a pretext in their efforts to finally destroy Bosnian state. If Bosnian muslins don’t realize that their open calls for dismantling of Republika Srpska leads to end of Bosnian statehood, somebody has to tell them.
Nevertheless, the questions did we have genocide in Srebrenica or not have been solved by International court in Hague, but it is completely wrong to make such connection between notorious war crime and existence of Republika Srpska.
The court in Hague has not been established to accuse nations, the countries, or provinces within countries, but rather to bring individuals before justice regardless of their ethnic background.
German leadership during Second World War killed millions of innocent civilian, but no court in the world has ever discussed dismantling of German state. Instead individuals had been brought before the justice and accused in relationship with their own personal responsibility. Furthermore, Mr. Silajdzic in his speech has used data about war victims with out mentioning that those numbers do not reflect the crimes committed by only one side in the war.

The world community has obligation to protect the compromise that has been reached In Bosnia almost 13 years ago. Otherwise, the whole region can face the serious threat of bloody conflict again.

The "Bosnian" nationalists want an Islamic Republic, that's why the Saudis are building over 1,000 Wahhabi mosques there and why they want to rip up the Dayton Accords and destroy the RS.

The Genocide against the Serbs in WWII greatly affected the population distribution, while the wars of the 1990’s did not. Serbs used to be the single largest ethnicity there.

For those who support Kosovo independence based on moral grounds, why do you oppose the independence of RS? Serbs in Krajina and Bosnia suffered far more greatly. In addition during the 1990’s the majority of the population, Serbs and Croats, wanted independence.

For those who claim RS is founded on genocide, if that’s the case, why does RS have a 12% minority population, while the Federation has a 2% minority population. What about Croatia and their crimes? They attacked the Bosniaks too, they committed massive ethnic cleansing in Krajine, why no justice for the victims of Croatian crimes? Why must Serbs of Krajina be forced to live in Croatia when they’ve suffered so very much at the hands of the Croatians over the last 50 years?

Silajdzic is clearing repeating out dated propaganda in the numbers he uses, that have been proven false. Serbs did nearly in proportion to their percentage of the population (Croatians died in a much smaller number than their population by the way). There was no one sided slaughter like what the Nazi’s did to the Jews.

Certainly some Serbs did commit terrible crimes, but the average Serb villager in Bosnia only fought because he feared a repeat of WWII. It was gangsters from Belgrade who committed the majority of the crimes and came there only to loot and steal.

I’m all for keeping Bosnia intact, but only if the logic behind that is consistent in all the regions of the former Yugoslavia. If Kosovo has the moral right to succeed then surely Serbs had that same right when faced with the resurgence of Ustashe philosophy in the 1990’s.

One rule for Serbs and a different one for everyone else will only led to confrontation in the future. Silajdzic is only pouring fuel on the fire by his irresponsible and blatant lies. 200,000 dead? 50,000 raped? Its so irresponsible for a politician to use such lies, especially in such a troubled time.

"The RS is thriving??" are some of you, oh, what word am i looking for... um, a trifle mis-informed?! no one in bosnia is thriving except for a few "lucky" business people and some demagogic politicos.

bosnia is a mess. i mean i love that country, and most of its people, and it is a gorgeous land, but it is in a VERY bad way a very very large % of young people there have no intention of staying IF they have any choice...
someone tell me this is not true.

so, what happened?? Maybe some 5 years of war and misery? maybe the country being attacked by its neighbors (oh, i wonder who??) maybe certain bosnians themselves (think karadzic and co.) going out of their way to do as much evil as a human being is capable of doing and then some...

bosnia, my beloved bosnia, my sad and desperate bosnia.

i have some very specific suggestions. first, push dodik out of office, tout suite! yeah, yeah, then RS will secede...NOT. then, the so-called high rep, instead of making his insipid comments, needs to facilitate real progress leading to a functioning nation. those Bosnians can, once again, learn to live together -- some of them never stopped!

but, as dr. broz has stated every time i have heard her, or spoken to her: it is impossible to build democracy and civil society while the out-of-control nationalists (esp in RS) can continue to bully and intimidate people at will -- their "own" people if you buy into those ridiculous ethnic categories.

if you don't believe me, go to bosnia, spend some time with ordinary people in both "entities" and you will see the truth.

we must now admit that dayton has been a failure, and then progress to the next level, or leave this whole wonderful country in a jungle of quicksand.

roberto
frisco/ sarajevo
robertoruss@yahoo.com

---"If Serbia and Montenegro could be separated, then surely Muslims and Serbs in Bosnia can be separated. After all Serbs and Montenegrins have much more in common (religion, culture etc) than Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims."


If Serbia and Montenegro could be separated, then surely Serbs and Kosovar Albanians can be separated. After all Serbs and Montenegrins have much more in common (religion, culture etc) than Serbs and Kosovar Albanians.

Thank you for making my point.

Another proof of the genocide unearthed today.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE48N51N20080924

The bodies are UNIDENTIFIED and they are counting "parts" which increases the number. These bodies are found exactly where people were killed in WWII massacre sites which weren't dug up.

Many of the bodies have been unidentified for over a decade which means those aren't Muslims.

Plus the Muslim dead in Srebrenica are virtually all army members.

Killing enemy soldiers during war time is not genocide.

There have been over 1,000,000 Iraqis who've died since the U.S. invasion and occupation yet that isn't called a genocide.

The Bosnian Muslim population is the same percentage of Bosnia as it was prewar proving there was not genocide.

As well, Silajdžić visited concentration camps where Serbs were held during the war. A Serb who survived the Bosnian-Muslim run Silo concentration camp at Tarcin saw him there, along with Izetbegovic who was secured on his visit by Malaysian UN guards.

We can see the disproved bloated figures of the Bosnian war are use - when the total for all three sides is less than half that - and it includes all the missing.

Plus the majority dead in the '90s Bosnian war were combatants, not civilians.

---"If Serbia and Montenegro could be separated, then surely Muslims and Serbs in Bosnia can be separated. After all Serbs and Montenegrins have much more in common (religion, culture etc) than Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims."


If Serbia and Montenegro could be separated, then surely Serbs and Kosovar Albanians can be separated. After all Serbs and Montenegrins have much more in common (religion, culture etc) than Serbs and Kosovar Albanians.

Thank you for making my point.

The "Bosnian" nationalists want an Islamic Republic, that's why the Saudis are building over 1,000 Wahhabi mosques there and why they want to rip up the Dayton Accords and destroy the RS.

RS should declare independence from Bosnia since Silajdzic does not believed in co-existence. His hate speeches truly dismal.

If I had a hard time understanding Bosnia before, now it all makes sense. How can people live together in peace when people like Silajdžić are giving these hate-speeches over and over again?

If Serbia and Montenegro could be separated, then surely Muslims and Serbs in Bosnia can be separated. After all Serbs and Montenegrins have much more in common (religion, culture etc) than Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims.

Speeches such as this show why Bosnia cannot survive in it's current form. My advice to Silajdzic is to keep his gob shut if he values Bosnia in it's present borders. My gut instinct tells me that RS is on the verge of leaving. Lets hope another war doesn't break out.

Looks like Silajdžić created another fissure in the already divided artificial country of BiH. With such a venomous and hateful speech it is now more evident than ever that the country must be broken into three.

Wow, if anyone is asking for a split within BiH then it's this guy. Doesn't he realise that the Red Cross figures include Serbians killed and raped also? His speech really does sound a little desperate and I suspect it all has to do with the Bosnian Federation going bankrupt while Republika Srpska continues to thrive!

If the RS secedes (and i think they should), they should be allowed to. Kosovo is definately a precedent. But this would put the Serbs in a tough situation. If Srbija recgonizes RS, then they have to let kosovo go...and unfortuantely, i think thats the smartest thing to do....Kosovo has the highest growth rate in Europe and one of the top in the world, soon there will be 2.5 million albanians. Theres no way of putting them under our jurisdiction again (aside from war, but hopefully that never happens). We have to fight for N. Kosovo, and for the RS. Think! A srbija with its second (or third, whatever) biggest city is banja luka. Closer and closer to Europe we will be.

On the topic of haris siljadzic, its pretty obvious his bias and that things are not done properlly in BiH.

Quick note: RS is more multierthnic than the federation. So enough of the propaganda! I feel ike im listening to the Bush administration right now! lol

Once again Bosnian Muslim politicians have showed their opened animosity toward part of their own country. By this kind of behavior they are, although indirectly, giving the space for Serbian extremists within Bosnia who are just waiting to have a pretext in their efforts to finally destroy Bosnian state. If Bosnian muslins don’t realize that their open calls for dismantling of Republika Srpska leads to end of Bosnian statehood, somebody has to tell them.
Nevertheless, the questions did we have genocide in Srebrenica or not have been solved by International court in Hague, but it is completely wrong to make such connection between notorious war crime and existence of Republika Srpska.
The court in Hague has not been established to accuse nations, the countries, or provinces within countries, but rather to bring individuals before justice regardless of their ethnic background.
German leadership during Second World War killed millions of innocent civilian, but no court in the world has ever discussed dismantling of German state. Instead individuals had been brought before the justice and accused in relationship with their own personal responsibility. Furthermore, Mr. Silajdzic in his speech has used data about war victims with out mentioning that those numbers do not reflect the crimes committed by only one side in the war.

The world community has obligation to protect the compromise that has been reached In Bosnia almost 13 years ago. Otherwise, the whole region can face the serious threat of bloody conflict again.

It is becoming clear that the only solution to achieving long standing peace and co-operation in the Balkans is with the independence of Republika Srpska and the Croat cantons of the Federation of BiH.

Bosnia is an artifical country which doesn't function and no co-operation would exit without the presence of the international community, which also gives the false impression abroad that it is one country.

Nothing can be further from the truth. The majority of Serbs and Croats do not consider themselves Bosnians and or want to live in such an imposed state. During the dissolution of Yugoslavia, the arguments were that the six republics couldn't be forced to live in the federation against their will. The same arguement was used to justify the Kosovo Albanians unilateral declaration, but when it comes to Bosnia the will of the Croat and Serbian people is overlooked.

Haris Silajdzic is a negative political personality, a relic of an unforunate past who doesn't understand that in a democracy he can't force the other nations of Bosnia to live in the kind of state that he believes should exist. And in that I believe that it would be his unfounded zeal to reverse the structures that ended the war and create an illusionary 'united' Bosnia that will led to it's final fragmentation.

"The RS is thriving??" are some of you, oh, what word am i looking for... um, a trifle mis-informed?! no one in bosnia is thriving except for a few "lucky" business people and some demagogic politicos.

bosnia is a mess. i mean i love that country, and most of its people, and it is a gorgeous land, but it is in a VERY bad way a very very large % of young people there have no intention of staying IF they have any choice...
someone tell me this is not true.

so, what happened?? Maybe some 5 years of war and misery? maybe the country being attacked by its neighbors (oh, i wonder who??) maybe certain bosnians themselves (think karadzic and co.) going out of their way to do as much evil as a human being is capable of doing and then some...

bosnia, my beloved bosnia, my sad and desperate bosnia.

i have some very specific suggestions. first, push dodik out of office, tout suite! yeah, yeah, then RS will secede...NOT. then, the so-called high rep, instead of making his insipid comments, needs to facilitate real progress leading to a functioning nation. those Bosnians can, once again, learn to live together -- some of them never stopped!

but, as dr. broz has stated every time i have heard her, or spoken to her: it is impossible to build democracy and civil society while the out-of-control nationalists (esp in RS) can continue to bully and intimidate people at will -- their "own" people if you buy into those ridiculous ethnic categories.

if you don't believe me, go to bosnia, spend some time with ordinary people in both "entities" and you will see the truth.

we must now admit that dayton has been a failure, and then progress to the next level, or leave this whole wonderful country in a jungle of quicksand.

roberto
frisco/ sarajevo
robertoruss@yahoo.com

The Genocide against the Serbs in WWII greatly affected the population distribution, while the wars of the 1990’s did not. Serbs used to be the single largest ethnicity there.

For those who support Kosovo independence based on moral grounds, why do you oppose the independence of RS? Serbs in Krajina and Bosnia suffered far more greatly. In addition during the 1990’s the majority of the population, Serbs and Croats, wanted independence.

For those who claim RS is founded on genocide, if that’s the case, why does RS have a 12% minority population, while the Federation has a 2% minority population. What about Croatia and their crimes? They attacked the Bosniaks too, they committed massive ethnic cleansing in Krajine, why no justice for the victims of Croatian crimes? Why must Serbs of Krajina be forced to live in Croatia when they’ve suffered so very much at the hands of the Croatians over the last 50 years?

Silajdzic is clearing repeating out dated propaganda in the numbers he uses, that have been proven false. Serbs did nearly in proportion to their percentage of the population (Croatians died in a much smaller number than their population by the way). There was no one sided slaughter like what the Nazi’s did to the Jews.

Certainly some Serbs did commit terrible crimes, but the average Serb villager in Bosnia only fought because he feared a repeat of WWII. It was gangsters from Belgrade who committed the majority of the crimes and came there only to loot and steal.

I’m all for keeping Bosnia intact, but only if the logic behind that is consistent in all the regions of the former Yugoslavia. If Kosovo has the moral right to succeed then surely Serbs had that same right when faced with the resurgence of Ustashe philosophy in the 1990’s.

One rule for Serbs and a different one for everyone else will only led to confrontation in the future. Silajdzic is only pouring fuel on the fire by his irresponsible and blatant lies. 200,000 dead? 50,000 raped? Its so irresponsible for a politician to use such lies, especially in such a troubled time.

There is such a stench of genocide denial in some of the comments on this article that it is quite remarkable. Such views ignore the underlying FACT that RS was the direct result and creature of genocide (ICJ ruling), ethnic cleansing, war crimes and crimes against humanity (based on countless Hague rulings).

The RS leadership has run an extensive campaign of extremist threats, sabotage (i.e. the recent pull-out from Elektroprenos) and ultra-nationalist rhetoric. Dr Silajdzic has every right to respond to such unacceptable abuses of power.

Not to mention the current corruption investigations of Milorad Dodik, and the illegal attempt by the RS to hire international lobbyists as a de-facto foreign affairs arm.

The hostility towards Bosnia by the RS leadership is unfounded, but when someone raises FACTS about justice for the victims of the genocide - then the RS feels like it is being attacked. Obviously because it itself was the cause of unspeakable crimes of genocide. Continued denial of this, including by those in Serbia, will not help the Serb agenda.

The RS has no historical basis for existence and is a monoethnic xenophobic artificial creation that abuses and contravenes all levels of human dignity and justice.

Bosnia and Herzegovina is sick and tired of putting up with people who "...have no emotional attachment to Bosnia-Herzegovina, nor do [they] love it" (quote from Dodik, Sept 2008).

I challenge the genocide deniers on these posts to think long and hard about what future and hostility they are propagating in the region for the generations to come.