Swiss reject Kosovo official over criminal record

Well, it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal.

Miri,

Peggy is absolutely right and she didn’t say anything that it was not true. As far as Serbian officials are concerned, I challenge you to name at least one of them with criminal file.

It is absolutely ridiculous to point finger at Serbs when it comes to criminality amongst the offcials.

Swiss is doing right thing.

The newspaper says it was confirmed in Priština that the Swiss authorities have information that he "did not act in line with Swiss laws" as KLA's political representative.

Another source said that Mala "faced Swiss justice over pressuring several citizens of Switzerland in order to secure material gains for himself".

Old story and only one of so many that we are harboring for too long...

Why don't you look at your criminals first. After a decade and that list is still going.
(miri, 24 September 2008 15:10)

Miri, for your information, we have a lot of K-A in Switzerland, and only a small majority is completely integrated and we have no problem at all with them. Those integrated have been themselves complaining many times about the harasment they are facing from the bunch of criminals and drug dealers that are unfortunately making the majority of the KA in our country. Just have a look at the official statistics, scary...and of course none of them went back to your province after the UDI, why should they!!

Well, it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal.
(Peggy, 24 September 2008 12:45)

Why don't you look at your criminals first. After a decade and that list is still going.

Miri

Great, now I even learnt that I am a SRS member, thanks anyway for making me aware of it.

Ajsel,

Name one, which is at least you can do, I am sure. If not, your words are empty talking.

L*O*G*I*C

Is that the best you can come up with? I must laugh since you picked the best politician ever that Serbia had by far. Needles to say that he is one of the most honest when it comes to money talk and any other criminal activity.

It is however very sick to be proud of people as Ceku, Thaci and Haradinaj are. They have blood on their hands, much blood.

Donika,

We are speaking about the crimes amongst the officials. You seem to have problems realising the difference.

Didn't KLA used to be on the terrorist list until the US decided they had use for you?

No No Peggy, you are wrong, it was a mistake in the Pentagon, it was supposed to be on the heroes lists...

What has this got to do with attempts to criminalize the entire Kosovar leadership, according to Peggy(s)?
(miri, 24 September 2008 21:04)

Well, unfortunately a lot of them starting with your PM are criminals and use to live for some period of time in Switzerland! Likewise your Mr Mala, most of them have a track record..and I'm glad that finally our politicians had the guts to refuse the entry to one of them amd hopefully more will follow!
Unfortunately too many of your fellows came as pseudo refugees and since then have been creating mess and even if we would want to put them in jail, we wouldn't have enough space!!
Switzerland recognized your UDI hopping that a lot of them will go back and we'll be able to expell some of them, what a wishfull thinking it was, only 1% went back. And guess what your diaspora was saying "going back, no way, no future, only mess"

Instead of always crying and blaming the others for everything that is happening start using your energy in reconstructing your province! The image that K-A are having abroad is simply desastrous and who should be blame for that!!!

Peggy, you either bring arguments to prove your points or stop accusations.
Why are Kosovar leaders criminals, just because were members of KLA? Yes KLA was once in terrorist list of CIA, but then the mistake was corrected. I am sure even De Gaul was once called a terrorist by Nazis during french resistance. Are you calling him a criminal?
You better calm down Peggy because "criminal" is a very heavy word. But if you really believe that our leaders are criminals, please go to your Belgrade superior court and open a case against them. Or at least tell us something that you know.
For us, they are liberation heroes, they are the jewel of our national crown. However if one of them is turned out to have committed crimes against civilians he will face the court of law, and not like your Mladic and his followers.
To make you understand; this is the reason why Haradinaj voluntarily surrendered to the Hague. If he would have been proven guilty while in office, that would have been a big blow to our cause and would have proven your point. K-Albanians are not immune to mistakes, however nothing will jeopardize or cause. We chose very carefully our leaders so don't tell us who to elect.

Just to clearify all your incorrect information, The KLA was never actually on any US terrorist list. The US state Department has a website which includes a list of Terrorist organisations. The KLA was never on it.. not at any time and then takin off as some say. It was NEVER on it to begin with.
All you have to do is check the US state Dept website to verify, I have checked then in 98-99, and now. I invite you all to use some more time surfing the net for reliable sources. Remember the Internet is full of all sources of info, reliable and unreliable. Here in this Blog site I see much of UNRELIABLE sources.
Cheers,
Joe NYC

brumsila, what proof do you and Peggy have to support this agressive statement: "it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal."

Your own biggest party, which I strongly believe you are a member of, is headed by a war criminal from a Hague cell.
The only reason that did not win the elections, was the threat from EU to keep Serbia isolated.
Is this something that it's not true?

Miri,Ajsel, Logic,

Switzerland is obviously a victim of our Serbian propaganda rags like Der Speigel (which claimed that) "Soon the EU will take over, and its team can expect a country ruled by corruption and organized crime."

Please continue to support or ignore your government's former black market occupations; Thaci and Haradinaj sold heroin and shot their rivals because they love Kosovo and wanted your future to be bright.

It is my hope that this government continues to represent separatists long into the future. Look at the prosperity that billions in western aid and 10 years of KLA leadership has brought.

It is a perfect and natural partner for the EU and the United States.

Funny how L*O*G*I*C uses that photo to condemn Kostunica yet:
- Kostunica had nothing to do with paramilitaries, police or army under Milosevic's rule.
- Has never been indicted of a crime in Serbia or in other countries -- just in the minds of Albanians like L*O*G*I*C*.
- Not only that but the picture he posted is no link to any criminal record.
- If the picture is somekind of way of saying that because Kostunica held an AK-$& he is a criminal then the fact that all the leaders of Kosovo have held and use them means they are bigger criminals. Thus proving the claim made by Peggy.

To Swiss:
Why don't you catch all criminals, of all backgrounds and put them to jail.
Why are you telling me this anyway!! When did I ever said there are no Albanian criminals?
What has this got to do with attempts to criminalize the entire Kosovar leadership, according to Peggy(s)?
(miri, 24 September 2008 21:04)

I am not attempting to criminalize your leadership. You have made a huge mistake in electing these criminals in the first place.

If you don't want fingers pointing then be careful who you elect into office.
It is only because you have the US backing you that your leaders are not in jail now.
Didn't KLA used to be on the terrorist list until the US decided they had use for you?
Bigger criminals than terrorists you can't get. Nothing in Serbian government will ever come close to that.
And please don't confuse ordinary crimes to crimes committed individual leaders.

Serb Criminals ?
Yes as in every nation even in Serbia and among Serbs there is and there were criminals.
Isn't it a crime to assassinate a Prime Minister of a country. Serb's have done it a few times, Austrias leader was assassinated as well Serbia's own leader the well respected Zoran Đinđić...
I think criminals such this should be punished hard and not be picked on national background race or religion.
There is lots of good Serbs around the globe and within Serbia but a few bad have mad these people suspicius in many other nations eys..
Let's fight crime together and leave behinde our differences.
If this guy is a criminal he should face the justice and neverless be an ambasador!
Thanks to all

As far as Serbian officials are concerned, I challenge you to name at least one of them with criminal file. -Bmrusila

Here is one,
http://www.trepca.net/foto/personalitete/kostunica_kosovo_1998.jpg



Well, it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal.
-Peggy

You call them criminals, I call them heroes. A lot of the lot were trained in Belgrade Military Academy such as Ceku and the rest and went on to fight against Serbian "army". If in fact they did not abandon and fought with Serbia you would be praising them as Serbian heroes.

is anybody surprised???

For us, they are liberation heroes, they are the jewel of our national crown. However if one of them is turned out to have committed crimes against civilians he will face the court of law, and not like your Mladic and his followers.
To make you understand; this is the reason why Haradinaj voluntarily surrendered to the Hague. If he would have been proven guilty while in office, that would have been a big blow to our cause and would have proven your point. K-Albanians are not immune to mistakes, however nothing will jeopardize or cause. We chose very carefully our leaders so don't tell us who to elect.
(miri, 25 September 2008 03:58)

Miri, I am perfectly calm. It is you who is getting all hot and bothered here.
Yes, you're right about the fact that if any of your leaders was found guilty it would've been a big blow to you cause. That's why the US had to make sure that Hauge never finds any of them guilty. The witnesses have disappeared too.

If you pride yourselves in the type of leaders you have elected then you are no better than any of them.
Why are you bringing Mladic into this? What has he got to do with Kosovo or Serbia?
I don't recall him being elected to any government position either. You are so upset about what I wrote that you're not even thinking straight.
At least you admitted that KLA was on the terrorist list. That's a start, unlike some who dispute that too.

Thanks Joe for clarification.

Ok Peggy, I'll make a "deal" with you.

You call all your Belgrade leaders criminals and I will call Pristina's the same.
This way we'll be equal, none will be better than the other. After all who cares about proving anything here anyway?

Swiss government has denied Kosovo media reports over new state envoy to Bern and said Naim Malaj has no police record but his dual citizenship is the reason why the ‘charge d’affaires’ is not prefered for the job.

Case closed.

There is not enough fingers in your hands so to point in serbian goverment that are not criminals to bmrusila and peggy.

To Swiss:
Why don't you catch all criminals, of all backgrounds and put them to jail.
Why are you telling me this anyway!! When did I ever said there are no Albanian criminals?
What has this got to do with attempts to criminalize the entire Kosovar leadership, according to Peggy(s)?

Well, it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal.
(Peggy, 24 September 2008 12:45)

Why don't you look at your criminals first. After a decade and that list is still going.

brumsila, what proof do you and Peggy have to support this agressive statement: "it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal."

Your own biggest party, which I strongly believe you are a member of, is headed by a war criminal from a Hague cell.
The only reason that did not win the elections, was the threat from EU to keep Serbia isolated.
Is this something that it's not true?

As far as Serbian officials are concerned, I challenge you to name at least one of them with criminal file. -Bmrusila

Here is one,
http://www.trepca.net/foto/personalitete/kostunica_kosovo_1998.jpg



Well, it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal.
-Peggy

You call them criminals, I call them heroes. A lot of the lot were trained in Belgrade Military Academy such as Ceku and the rest and went on to fight against Serbian "army". If in fact they did not abandon and fought with Serbia you would be praising them as Serbian heroes.

There is not enough fingers in your hands so to point in serbian goverment that are not criminals to bmrusila and peggy.

To Swiss:
Why don't you catch all criminals, of all backgrounds and put them to jail.
Why are you telling me this anyway!! When did I ever said there are no Albanian criminals?
What has this got to do with attempts to criminalize the entire Kosovar leadership, according to Peggy(s)?

Serb Criminals ?
Yes as in every nation even in Serbia and among Serbs there is and there were criminals.
Isn't it a crime to assassinate a Prime Minister of a country. Serb's have done it a few times, Austrias leader was assassinated as well Serbia's own leader the well respected Zoran Đinđić...
I think criminals such this should be punished hard and not be picked on national background race or religion.
There is lots of good Serbs around the globe and within Serbia but a few bad have mad these people suspicius in many other nations eys..
Let's fight crime together and leave behinde our differences.
If this guy is a criminal he should face the justice and neverless be an ambasador!
Thanks to all

To Swiss:
Why don't you catch all criminals, of all backgrounds and put them to jail.
Why are you telling me this anyway!! When did I ever said there are no Albanian criminals?
What has this got to do with attempts to criminalize the entire Kosovar leadership, according to Peggy(s)?
(miri, 24 September 2008 21:04)

I am not attempting to criminalize your leadership. You have made a huge mistake in electing these criminals in the first place.

If you don't want fingers pointing then be careful who you elect into office.
It is only because you have the US backing you that your leaders are not in jail now.
Didn't KLA used to be on the terrorist list until the US decided they had use for you?
Bigger criminals than terrorists you can't get. Nothing in Serbian government will ever come close to that.
And please don't confuse ordinary crimes to crimes committed individual leaders.

Well, it's going to be hard to find anyone in the "Kosova" government who is not a criminal.

Peggy, you either bring arguments to prove your points or stop accusations.
Why are Kosovar leaders criminals, just because were members of KLA? Yes KLA was once in terrorist list of CIA, but then the mistake was corrected. I am sure even De Gaul was once called a terrorist by Nazis during french resistance. Are you calling him a criminal?
You better calm down Peggy because "criminal" is a very heavy word. But if you really believe that our leaders are criminals, please go to your Belgrade superior court and open a case against them. Or at least tell us something that you know.
For us, they are liberation heroes, they are the jewel of our national crown. However if one of them is turned out to have committed crimes against civilians he will face the court of law, and not like your Mladic and his followers.
To make you understand; this is the reason why Haradinaj voluntarily surrendered to the Hague. If he would have been proven guilty while in office, that would have been a big blow to our cause and would have proven your point. K-Albanians are not immune to mistakes, however nothing will jeopardize or cause. We chose very carefully our leaders so don't tell us who to elect.

Just to clearify all your incorrect information, The KLA was never actually on any US terrorist list. The US state Department has a website which includes a list of Terrorist organisations. The KLA was never on it.. not at any time and then takin off as some say. It was NEVER on it to begin with.
All you have to do is check the US state Dept website to verify, I have checked then in 98-99, and now. I invite you all to use some more time surfing the net for reliable sources. Remember the Internet is full of all sources of info, reliable and unreliable. Here in this Blog site I see much of UNRELIABLE sources.
Cheers,
Joe NYC

Miri,

Peggy is absolutely right and she didn’t say anything that it was not true. As far as Serbian officials are concerned, I challenge you to name at least one of them with criminal file.

It is absolutely ridiculous to point finger at Serbs when it comes to criminality amongst the offcials.

Swiss is doing right thing.

Why don't you look at your criminals first. After a decade and that list is still going.
(miri, 24 September 2008 15:10)

Miri, for your information, we have a lot of K-A in Switzerland, and only a small majority is completely integrated and we have no problem at all with them. Those integrated have been themselves complaining many times about the harasment they are facing from the bunch of criminals and drug dealers that are unfortunately making the majority of the KA in our country. Just have a look at the official statistics, scary...and of course none of them went back to your province after the UDI, why should they!!

Miri

Great, now I even learnt that I am a SRS member, thanks anyway for making me aware of it.

Ajsel,

Name one, which is at least you can do, I am sure. If not, your words are empty talking.

L*O*G*I*C

Is that the best you can come up with? I must laugh since you picked the best politician ever that Serbia had by far. Needles to say that he is one of the most honest when it comes to money talk and any other criminal activity.

It is however very sick to be proud of people as Ceku, Thaci and Haradinaj are. They have blood on their hands, much blood.

Donika,

We are speaking about the crimes amongst the officials. You seem to have problems realising the difference.

Thanks Joe for clarification.

Ok Peggy, I'll make a "deal" with you.

You call all your Belgrade leaders criminals and I will call Pristina's the same.
This way we'll be equal, none will be better than the other. After all who cares about proving anything here anyway?

The newspaper says it was confirmed in Priština that the Swiss authorities have information that he "did not act in line with Swiss laws" as KLA's political representative.

Another source said that Mala "faced Swiss justice over pressuring several citizens of Switzerland in order to secure material gains for himself".

Old story and only one of so many that we are harboring for too long...

Miri,Ajsel, Logic,

Switzerland is obviously a victim of our Serbian propaganda rags like Der Speigel (which claimed that) "Soon the EU will take over, and its team can expect a country ruled by corruption and organized crime."

Please continue to support or ignore your government's former black market occupations; Thaci and Haradinaj sold heroin and shot their rivals because they love Kosovo and wanted your future to be bright.

It is my hope that this government continues to represent separatists long into the future. Look at the prosperity that billions in western aid and 10 years of KLA leadership has brought.

It is a perfect and natural partner for the EU and the United States.

What has this got to do with attempts to criminalize the entire Kosovar leadership, according to Peggy(s)?
(miri, 24 September 2008 21:04)

Well, unfortunately a lot of them starting with your PM are criminals and use to live for some period of time in Switzerland! Likewise your Mr Mala, most of them have a track record..and I'm glad that finally our politicians had the guts to refuse the entry to one of them amd hopefully more will follow!
Unfortunately too many of your fellows came as pseudo refugees and since then have been creating mess and even if we would want to put them in jail, we wouldn't have enough space!!
Switzerland recognized your UDI hopping that a lot of them will go back and we'll be able to expell some of them, what a wishfull thinking it was, only 1% went back. And guess what your diaspora was saying "going back, no way, no future, only mess"

Instead of always crying and blaming the others for everything that is happening start using your energy in reconstructing your province! The image that K-A are having abroad is simply desastrous and who should be blame for that!!!

Didn't KLA used to be on the terrorist list until the US decided they had use for you?

No No Peggy, you are wrong, it was a mistake in the Pentagon, it was supposed to be on the heroes lists...

Funny how L*O*G*I*C uses that photo to condemn Kostunica yet:
- Kostunica had nothing to do with paramilitaries, police or army under Milosevic's rule.
- Has never been indicted of a crime in Serbia or in other countries -- just in the minds of Albanians like L*O*G*I*C*.
- Not only that but the picture he posted is no link to any criminal record.
- If the picture is somekind of way of saying that because Kostunica held an AK-$& he is a criminal then the fact that all the leaders of Kosovo have held and use them means they are bigger criminals. Thus proving the claim made by Peggy.

For us, they are liberation heroes, they are the jewel of our national crown. However if one of them is turned out to have committed crimes against civilians he will face the court of law, and not like your Mladic and his followers.
To make you understand; this is the reason why Haradinaj voluntarily surrendered to the Hague. If he would have been proven guilty while in office, that would have been a big blow to our cause and would have proven your point. K-Albanians are not immune to mistakes, however nothing will jeopardize or cause. We chose very carefully our leaders so don't tell us who to elect.
(miri, 25 September 2008 03:58)

Miri, I am perfectly calm. It is you who is getting all hot and bothered here.
Yes, you're right about the fact that if any of your leaders was found guilty it would've been a big blow to you cause. That's why the US had to make sure that Hauge never finds any of them guilty. The witnesses have disappeared too.

If you pride yourselves in the type of leaders you have elected then you are no better than any of them.
Why are you bringing Mladic into this? What has he got to do with Kosovo or Serbia?
I don't recall him being elected to any government position either. You are so upset about what I wrote that you're not even thinking straight.
At least you admitted that KLA was on the terrorist list. That's a start, unlike some who dispute that too.

is anybody surprised???

Swiss government has denied Kosovo media reports over new state envoy to Bern and said Naim Malaj has no police record but his dual citizenship is the reason why the ‘charge d’affaires’ is not prefered for the job.

Case closed.