Tadić urges neighbors against recognitions

mp - Speaking for myself, it's not about respect or 'hating Americans'.

It's about what recent administrations have been doing around the world, and the fact that the US is now an unchecked superpower.

International law has basically become a doormat for the US and they just do whatever they want.

Unless France and Germany refuse to keep blindly supporting US foreign policy, and respect for international law is re-established, then I think that the UN will actually be disbanded within a few years.

That affects all of us, so we all have the right to speak out against current international issues, and I'm sorry that you take that personally.

At the moment, we are all dependent upon arms dealers and paid lobbyists deciding who to attack, sanction or side with next. I don't want these people running US foreign policy.

There has to be some sort of international structure which is respected, and that will only happen if America decides to go along with it.

What worries me is I can't see how that would ever happen, unless the new administration takes an entirely different approach.

Dear Serbs,

We're here to stay!
Noone, No Resolution, No military, even not your Tanks, can get us out of Kosovo. You should'we learned that.

kate:

Americans are those that are putting themselves in that position. I agree with you on what you say but I think that there is a way to catch the US at their own game and that is what Tadic is trying to do.

So basically, people here should have a bit more of respect for others if you want to be respected.
(mp, 24 September 2008 12:37)

I wish you would be right... I've been so many times in the US and this since the 80's and always had a good time, whether privately or for business! I remember the days where having an american flag in the room was a sign of liberty and pride, even being a non-american. Those days are soooo far away and back in Europe the anti american sentiment (at least among the population) has never been higher.
Respect, yes, but not the way The US wants to impose it today. For Bush and co there is only one place that they deserve, The Hague!

President Tadic did a good job in front of the UN GA yesterday. He brought some good argumentation and he adopted the right strategy: to put the US in the role of the biggest, which means he has put on them the role of understanding and moderating with everybody, not only some distinct territory. Tadic is right here.. Most of you like to hate the americans very much but you all forget that the US is the country from where you receive the most of financial help, investments in the domain of business.. etc.. So basically, people here should have a bit more of respect for others if you want to be respected.

Good work Mr. Tadic, Hopefully your speech in the UNGA will change the heart of the 46 states who made a unlawful decision. Serbia will have to wait for a new US president in november as George Bush will never change.

mp says,

"Most of you like to hate the americans very much but you all forget that the US is the country from where you receive the most of financial help, investments in the domain of business.." etc.."
mp
It is this "etc.." of Americans which worry us. Could that be bombs or simply the usual pillage of our national wealth?
mp continues,
"So basically, people here should have a bit more of respect for others if you want to be respected"

Well, the respect of Americans for smaller nations is not exactly legendary (Iraq, Afganistan, Venezuela, Bolivia,Haiti, to name a few) and if we reciprocated in the same manner we would surely receive back,quite respectfully- bombs.

"Serbia could not accept something of the kind without providing any answer. Of course, we will never again go to war. We will not destabilize other states, but we will behave like a country with dignity that protects her integrity," he said, and pleaded with the governments in Macedonia and Montenegro "to take this fact into account".
Mr. tadic if you are not going to war or try to destebilze your neighbors,than WHAT? Please explain that to your people.

"Dear Serbs,

We're here to stay!
Noone, No Resolution, No military, even not your Tanks, can get us out of Kosovo. You should'we learned that.
(Kosovo-habitant, 24 September 2008 14:08)"

dear Kosovo-habitant, if you had a serbian citizenship prior to 1999, we WANT you to stay.

if you are an Albanian who came after 1999 from Albania... you´ll have to leave sooner or later.

the serbian government has secured all data on the population of the southern serbian province, before it left control to the nato-occupiers, so it will be an easy job to verify who is welcome and who is not.

"Of course, we will never again go to war. We will not destabilize other states, but we will behave like a country with dignity that protects her integrity"

Yes, Boris, Yes,
We're gonna clubber them with our famous dignity (when we find one) until they
get completely floored.

Serbia has a right to address the UNGA, but by the same token, the Republic of Kosova also has a right to adrress the same body, and beyond that, they have a right to take serbia to the world court for committing genocide and massive human rights violations.

otherwise, this is just another case of serbia using bullying and coersion, while keeping their victims from having a proper voice.

this is a critical time and we all need to stand up for democracy, human rights and independence. at least those of us who believe in those "platitudes."

thank you.

wow, what's he going to do? maybe invade Macedonia and after 120 years pretend that it was Serbia all along. Give me a break Tadic, As Muter said CASE CLOSED.

"International law has basically become a doormat for the US and they just do whatever they want."

You have no idea how weird this sounds, coming from one that supports Mladic. You should have advised Serbia in the 90's, much bloodshed would have been avoided. France and GB are with freedom.

Ups!
I am happy!
That's all I need to say.

Earlier, Tadić spoke to VOA Serbian service to say that "Belgrade will not show understanding if her neighbors decided to recognize Kosovo's declaration, saying that such moves would destabilize the country."

As we can Serbia is putting a lot of pressure on other independent countries. So it is not about complying with international law as Serbia's claim but about pressure and influence.

"Don't the Albanians realize they are absolutely nothing but a paper cut out being used by the military-industrial complex to meet military, resource and strategic targets. As soon as they get what they need they will forget about you just like they have done in Rwanda."

Each state has its objectives, in 5-10 years Kosova will be in much better shape as a 7-8 million Albanian block market will entice more investors and by then the infrastructure will be ready

Kosova is in Europe, not Africa and it's near Albania and among NATO states so your comparison is invalid. If they dump us, we'll be fine without Serbia's 'protection'

Mr Tadic is absolutely right,but it will take time to change the minds of the radicals in Serbia.
He is trying the best way to leave the Kosovo issue to the ICJ otherwise no chance in our history that a Serbia's leaders with agree to recognise Republik of Kosovo.

Is time to take an example from EU and USA and not Russia and China.

Tadic nearly begs its' neighbors not to recognize Republic of Kosovo....Ministry of Finance and Economy projects for 2008 an economic advancement of 5.2% GDP ---- hmmm, I wonder which is more news-worthy to B92?!?

Jovan,

Serbia (Tadic & Co,) has said it will never recognize Kosova as an independent country. Then, why oh why go to the ICJ for a ruling???

Should all Serbs that moved to Kosova, after 1999, be allowed to stay? According to your logic, your answer is NO!

Why all the blatant hypocrisy?

Tadic definitely has the morale and legal high ground and is doing the honorable thing although I fear it will come on deaf ears as the UN is nothing but a puppet. Don't the Albanians realize they are absolutely nothing but a paper cut out being used by the military-industrial complex to meet military, resource and strategic targets. As soon as they get what they need they will forget about you just like they have done in Rwanda.

( B92 Censor: Another irreverent opinion from the old cynic. Tastes like a poison, doesn't it? Totally out of the thought control)

John (#19)

"Tadic definitely has the morale and legal high ground and is doing the honorable thing although I fear it will come on deaf ears.."

Well, yeah, it looks like that but ,as usual, in the present Serbia, there is a- hitch.
This high 'moral ground'and 'honour', as everything else has a price and can be sold to a higher bidder (all Serbian 'high moral grounds' end up eventually in Swiss banks). Don't be surprised when our Government, 'generously' abandons it for the sake of some European solidarity.
As far as 'Kosova' is concerned, this IS the Balkan Rwanda, and to make appeal to the sense of responsability of the indigenous population,is simply wasting one's breath.

Dear Serbs,

We're here to stay!
Noone, No Resolution, No military, even not your Tanks, can get us out of Kosovo. You should'we learned that.

"Serbia could not accept something of the kind without providing any answer. Of course, we will never again go to war. We will not destabilize other states, but we will behave like a country with dignity that protects her integrity," he said, and pleaded with the governments in Macedonia and Montenegro "to take this fact into account".
Mr. tadic if you are not going to war or try to destebilze your neighbors,than WHAT? Please explain that to your people.

"International law has basically become a doormat for the US and they just do whatever they want."

You have no idea how weird this sounds, coming from one that supports Mladic. You should have advised Serbia in the 90's, much bloodshed would have been avoided. France and GB are with freedom.

"Don't the Albanians realize they are absolutely nothing but a paper cut out being used by the military-industrial complex to meet military, resource and strategic targets. As soon as they get what they need they will forget about you just like they have done in Rwanda."

Each state has its objectives, in 5-10 years Kosova will be in much better shape as a 7-8 million Albanian block market will entice more investors and by then the infrastructure will be ready

Kosova is in Europe, not Africa and it's near Albania and among NATO states so your comparison is invalid. If they dump us, we'll be fine without Serbia's 'protection'

kate:

Americans are those that are putting themselves in that position. I agree with you on what you say but I think that there is a way to catch the US at their own game and that is what Tadic is trying to do.

Serbia has a right to address the UNGA, but by the same token, the Republic of Kosova also has a right to adrress the same body, and beyond that, they have a right to take serbia to the world court for committing genocide and massive human rights violations.

otherwise, this is just another case of serbia using bullying and coersion, while keeping their victims from having a proper voice.

this is a critical time and we all need to stand up for democracy, human rights and independence. at least those of us who believe in those "platitudes."

thank you.

wow, what's he going to do? maybe invade Macedonia and after 120 years pretend that it was Serbia all along. Give me a break Tadic, As Muter said CASE CLOSED.

mp - Speaking for myself, it's not about respect or 'hating Americans'.

It's about what recent administrations have been doing around the world, and the fact that the US is now an unchecked superpower.

International law has basically become a doormat for the US and they just do whatever they want.

Unless France and Germany refuse to keep blindly supporting US foreign policy, and respect for international law is re-established, then I think that the UN will actually be disbanded within a few years.

That affects all of us, so we all have the right to speak out against current international issues, and I'm sorry that you take that personally.

At the moment, we are all dependent upon arms dealers and paid lobbyists deciding who to attack, sanction or side with next. I don't want these people running US foreign policy.

There has to be some sort of international structure which is respected, and that will only happen if America decides to go along with it.

What worries me is I can't see how that would ever happen, unless the new administration takes an entirely different approach.

Good work Mr. Tadic, Hopefully your speech in the UNGA will change the heart of the 46 states who made a unlawful decision. Serbia will have to wait for a new US president in november as George Bush will never change.

"Of course, we will never again go to war. We will not destabilize other states, but we will behave like a country with dignity that protects her integrity"

Yes, Boris, Yes,
We're gonna clubber them with our famous dignity (when we find one) until they
get completely floored.

Mr Tadic is absolutely right,but it will take time to change the minds of the radicals in Serbia.
He is trying the best way to leave the Kosovo issue to the ICJ otherwise no chance in our history that a Serbia's leaders with agree to recognise Republik of Kosovo.

Is time to take an example from EU and USA and not Russia and China.

Earlier, Tadić spoke to VOA Serbian service to say that "Belgrade will not show understanding if her neighbors decided to recognize Kosovo's declaration, saying that such moves would destabilize the country."

As we can Serbia is putting a lot of pressure on other independent countries. So it is not about complying with international law as Serbia's claim but about pressure and influence.

President Tadic did a good job in front of the UN GA yesterday. He brought some good argumentation and he adopted the right strategy: to put the US in the role of the biggest, which means he has put on them the role of understanding and moderating with everybody, not only some distinct territory. Tadic is right here.. Most of you like to hate the americans very much but you all forget that the US is the country from where you receive the most of financial help, investments in the domain of business.. etc.. So basically, people here should have a bit more of respect for others if you want to be respected.

Ups!
I am happy!
That's all I need to say.

mp says,

"Most of you like to hate the americans very much but you all forget that the US is the country from where you receive the most of financial help, investments in the domain of business.." etc.."
mp
It is this "etc.." of Americans which worry us. Could that be bombs or simply the usual pillage of our national wealth?
mp continues,
"So basically, people here should have a bit more of respect for others if you want to be respected"

Well, the respect of Americans for smaller nations is not exactly legendary (Iraq, Afganistan, Venezuela, Bolivia,Haiti, to name a few) and if we reciprocated in the same manner we would surely receive back,quite respectfully- bombs.

Jovan,

Serbia (Tadic & Co,) has said it will never recognize Kosova as an independent country. Then, why oh why go to the ICJ for a ruling???

Should all Serbs that moved to Kosova, after 1999, be allowed to stay? According to your logic, your answer is NO!

Why all the blatant hypocrisy?

Tadic nearly begs its' neighbors not to recognize Republic of Kosovo....Ministry of Finance and Economy projects for 2008 an economic advancement of 5.2% GDP ---- hmmm, I wonder which is more news-worthy to B92?!?

So basically, people here should have a bit more of respect for others if you want to be respected.
(mp, 24 September 2008 12:37)

I wish you would be right... I've been so many times in the US and this since the 80's and always had a good time, whether privately or for business! I remember the days where having an american flag in the room was a sign of liberty and pride, even being a non-american. Those days are soooo far away and back in Europe the anti american sentiment (at least among the population) has never been higher.
Respect, yes, but not the way The US wants to impose it today. For Bush and co there is only one place that they deserve, The Hague!

"Dear Serbs,

We're here to stay!
Noone, No Resolution, No military, even not your Tanks, can get us out of Kosovo. You should'we learned that.
(Kosovo-habitant, 24 September 2008 14:08)"

dear Kosovo-habitant, if you had a serbian citizenship prior to 1999, we WANT you to stay.

if you are an Albanian who came after 1999 from Albania... you´ll have to leave sooner or later.

the serbian government has secured all data on the population of the southern serbian province, before it left control to the nato-occupiers, so it will be an easy job to verify who is welcome and who is not.

Tadic definitely has the morale and legal high ground and is doing the honorable thing although I fear it will come on deaf ears as the UN is nothing but a puppet. Don't the Albanians realize they are absolutely nothing but a paper cut out being used by the military-industrial complex to meet military, resource and strategic targets. As soon as they get what they need they will forget about you just like they have done in Rwanda.

( B92 Censor: Another irreverent opinion from the old cynic. Tastes like a poison, doesn't it? Totally out of the thought control)

John (#19)

"Tadic definitely has the morale and legal high ground and is doing the honorable thing although I fear it will come on deaf ears.."

Well, yeah, it looks like that but ,as usual, in the present Serbia, there is a- hitch.
This high 'moral ground'and 'honour', as everything else has a price and can be sold to a higher bidder (all Serbian 'high moral grounds' end up eventually in Swiss banks). Don't be surprised when our Government, 'generously' abandons it for the sake of some European solidarity.
As far as 'Kosova' is concerned, this IS the Balkan Rwanda, and to make appeal to the sense of responsability of the indigenous population,is simply wasting one's breath.