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Tuesday, 09.09.2008.

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Đukanović: Pressure to recognize

Montenegrin PM Milo Đukanović says that “certain parts of the international community“ expect Podgorica to recognize Kosovo.

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Niall O'Doherty

pre 15 godina

as for bosnia (who was asking?), they need to also recognize Kosovo/a, for exactly the reasons i have outlined. if dodik tries standing in the way, overrule him, two v. one. if he threatens to retaliate, oust him, something the High Rep should have done a long time ago.
(roberto, 10 September 2008 05:12)

Do you have any notion of what happened in YU or are you going to continue to pollute this site with your ill-concieved and ill-thought comments and continued Serbophobia.

Oh yeah, outvote the Serbs and recognise 'Kosova' you say. If that happened, Banja Luka would say screw you and its sayonara BiH. And any attempt by NATO to impose its will on the B-Serbs will mean only 1 thing, confrontation.

Do you know what happened the last time Sarajevo tried to pull a fast one on the B-Serbs on Enlightened One.

Dragan, Pancevo

pre 15 godina

Long after empires erode and decay, the memories remain. Don't be a fool Milo. Don't betray the memories of your forefathers and our common history, heritage and culture.

Branislav

pre 15 godina

Roberto wrote:
"I think that some of you have a slight case of memory loss. no -- make that a major case."
Dear Roberto,
you obviously have very little knowledge of former Yugoslavia and the reasons for it's sad disintegration. Please do some serious reading before trying to post some more meaningful comment about that.
For example this article by Dr.Michel Chossudovsky about dismantling of Yugoslavia would help:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/022.html

roberto

pre 15 godina

I think that some of you have a slight case of memory loss. no -- make that a major case. let's return to the "good" old days, shall we folks? first slovenia, then croatia, then bosnia, then macedonia (i think that's right), and finally montenegro all declared their independence from "yugoslavia" (actually, serboslavia). each and every one, for reasons obvious and complex. mostly obvious. last but not least, shock shock, was kosovo/a's turn. they don't wish to be a part of serboslavia; oh what a shock...

so for the other now-independent, once ex-YU entities to recognize the newest independent country of the region, kosovo/a, is absolutely logical and right.

i am so sick of all the lies and twisting rhetoric of the s-extemists. the case is crystal clear, and if montenegro wishes to be taken seriously on the world stage, and act in a civilized manner, then recognize. otherwise, don't, be hypocrites, and face the consequences. like no EU. is that really so complicated?!

as for bosnia (who was asking?), they need to also recognize Kosovo/a, for exactly the reasons i have outlined. if dodik tries standing in the way, overrule him, two v. one. if he threatens to retaliate, oust him, something the High Rep should have done a long time ago.

Alban

pre 15 godina

"Wait wait wait, I was under impression that EU was an economic Union not a dictatorial superstate with collective foregin policy. "

Whatever it is, no one forces anyone to join, in fact, others beg EU and go through the hoops to join.


>>"Pressure? Well, these are the little pleasures of being an independent "country"."
EU pressures some states, Russia pressures others (Serbia and NIS for example)

Crna Gora left Serbia, remember the vote?

pleurat

pre 15 godina

CrnaGora will recognize Kosovo de jure soon,but talking about pressure,who pressurised the good old USA to recognize Kosovo.nobody but good morals.

usaSERB

pre 15 godina

One of the west's goals has always been to divide orthodox people. I just don’t understand how some politicians can be so gullible and naïve.If Mr. Đukanovic caves in to pressure of our enemies he will go down in history as one of the biggest traitors of orthodox people.

GSP

pre 15 godina

No one works well under pressure. What value add would Montenegro gain from recognizing Kosovo? Absolutely nothing except the fact that they are as foolish as the rest of the countries that recognized Kosovo.

Stand for something or fall for anything.....balls in your court.

Dane

pre 15 godina

Recogniton of Kosovo as independent state from Montenegro will happen soon. This is a message Djukanovic is sending to Kosovo, Serbia and international community. Because of special relations between Podgorica and Belgrade, this decision of Podgorica Djukanovic is trying to hide behind pression coming from international community. Djukanovic, be brave and stay behind your decisions...

Felix

pre 15 godina

Pressure? Well, these are the little pleasures of being an independent "country".

Now really, why did you think you were getting any support for "independence"?

Independent

pre 15 godina

When Serbia ratified the SAA without Kosovo, what you expect from Montenegro to say Kosovo is part of Montenegro?
It is about time when Montenegro to recognize. It is about time when in Serbia the common sense will prevail and they will establish good neighboring relationship with Republic of Kosovo. Unless you don’t believe in normal Serbia.

Jan Andersen, DK

pre 15 godina

From the article:

"(...) the prime minister replied that it was “the duty of the authorities to be guided, first and foremost, by state interests.”"

I know that it is probably too much to ask, but wouldn't it be nice if a prime minister, president or something like that said - just for once: Our duty is to be guided, first and foremost, by what is right and fair, and not by selfish state interests.

Wouldn't that be a nice change?
--

Peggy

pre 15 godina

I wonder how many countries would recognize Kosovo if they were not under pressure to do so.
As far as Montenegro is concerned they cannot betray they brothers any more than they already have by declaring their own independence or shall I say dependence.
Milo always knew what was expected of him. He wasn't supported by the west for nothing. He owes them that and he knows it.

So, Milo, just be done with it and recognize Kosovo now. We are all sick of your whinging all the time. Gee we are under pressure to do this but we are not sure. You are fooling nobody. You just don't care what Serbia thinks. You are only worried about your own cushy job.
So show your true face and just get on with it so you can be voted out. Just maybe, the next guy will be a true Serb instead of a US slave.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

The guy is heading into political suicide. Probably no amount of smoke from almost-genuine cigarettes can hide him. Do it one way... and the majority of population will vote you out. Do it the other way... and the bushman-tribe will be angry. Best is: do nothing, just sell more cigarettes.

BKK

pre 15 godina

''If we want to be part of the European and Euro-Atlantic community, then our partners from those communities expect us to follow the main foreign policy paths of that community,”

Wait wait wait, I was under impression that EU was an economic Union not a dictatorial superstate with collective foregin policy.
Ah well, I guess arguments of Nigel Farage hold more true than anything ever to come out of European Officials's mouth.

How ironic, and particulary so for Croatia and Montenegro how they 'heroically' broke away from evil claws of Serbia seeking soverginity, but then would sell their souls to be second class citizens in United States of Europe.

Serbs, Montenegrians, Albanians and Croatians, you are a CHEAP labour for the West that will do the jobs they don't want to do for the less money they did it for. You are disposable military force noone would think twice sending to our deaths over Euro-American imperialism.

It is naive to think 'democratic' Wests treats anyone East of Germany as their equals.

gw

pre 15 godina

Send a statement and kick out the ambassadors even if they are from the US and UK.  I just wish we could kick out our politicians, but we, the US voters, have no say, it is no longer a decomcracy here in the good old USA.

Jevic

pre 15 godina

PM Milo Đukanović Please dont abandon your brothers and sisters in Serbia.

Please dont let your country be used by the WEST for their own selfish interest.

Soon the albanians in montenegro will follow the albanians in kosovo and carve out their own country.

Branislav

pre 15 godina

I sincerely hope that government of Montenegro will not have to be condescending to Orwellian manner of solving ethnic conflicts - which US is so vehemently conducting, and her clients just imitating.

gw

pre 15 godina

Send a statement and kick out the ambassadors even if they are from the US and UK.  I just wish we could kick out our politicians, but we, the US voters, have no say, it is no longer a decomcracy here in the good old USA.

BKK

pre 15 godina

''If we want to be part of the European and Euro-Atlantic community, then our partners from those communities expect us to follow the main foreign policy paths of that community,”

Wait wait wait, I was under impression that EU was an economic Union not a dictatorial superstate with collective foregin policy.
Ah well, I guess arguments of Nigel Farage hold more true than anything ever to come out of European Officials's mouth.

How ironic, and particulary so for Croatia and Montenegro how they 'heroically' broke away from evil claws of Serbia seeking soverginity, but then would sell their souls to be second class citizens in United States of Europe.

Serbs, Montenegrians, Albanians and Croatians, you are a CHEAP labour for the West that will do the jobs they don't want to do for the less money they did it for. You are disposable military force noone would think twice sending to our deaths over Euro-American imperialism.

It is naive to think 'democratic' Wests treats anyone East of Germany as their equals.

Branislav

pre 15 godina

I sincerely hope that government of Montenegro will not have to be condescending to Orwellian manner of solving ethnic conflicts - which US is so vehemently conducting, and her clients just imitating.

Jevic

pre 15 godina

PM Milo Đukanović Please dont abandon your brothers and sisters in Serbia.

Please dont let your country be used by the WEST for their own selfish interest.

Soon the albanians in montenegro will follow the albanians in kosovo and carve out their own country.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

The guy is heading into political suicide. Probably no amount of smoke from almost-genuine cigarettes can hide him. Do it one way... and the majority of population will vote you out. Do it the other way... and the bushman-tribe will be angry. Best is: do nothing, just sell more cigarettes.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

I wonder how many countries would recognize Kosovo if they were not under pressure to do so.
As far as Montenegro is concerned they cannot betray they brothers any more than they already have by declaring their own independence or shall I say dependence.
Milo always knew what was expected of him. He wasn't supported by the west for nothing. He owes them that and he knows it.

So, Milo, just be done with it and recognize Kosovo now. We are all sick of your whinging all the time. Gee we are under pressure to do this but we are not sure. You are fooling nobody. You just don't care what Serbia thinks. You are only worried about your own cushy job.
So show your true face and just get on with it so you can be voted out. Just maybe, the next guy will be a true Serb instead of a US slave.

Dane

pre 15 godina

Recogniton of Kosovo as independent state from Montenegro will happen soon. This is a message Djukanovic is sending to Kosovo, Serbia and international community. Because of special relations between Podgorica and Belgrade, this decision of Podgorica Djukanovic is trying to hide behind pression coming from international community. Djukanovic, be brave and stay behind your decisions...

GSP

pre 15 godina

No one works well under pressure. What value add would Montenegro gain from recognizing Kosovo? Absolutely nothing except the fact that they are as foolish as the rest of the countries that recognized Kosovo.

Stand for something or fall for anything.....balls in your court.

usaSERB

pre 15 godina

One of the west's goals has always been to divide orthodox people. I just don’t understand how some politicians can be so gullible and naïve.If Mr. Đukanovic caves in to pressure of our enemies he will go down in history as one of the biggest traitors of orthodox people.

Independent

pre 15 godina

When Serbia ratified the SAA without Kosovo, what you expect from Montenegro to say Kosovo is part of Montenegro?
It is about time when Montenegro to recognize. It is about time when in Serbia the common sense will prevail and they will establish good neighboring relationship with Republic of Kosovo. Unless you don’t believe in normal Serbia.

Jan Andersen, DK

pre 15 godina

From the article:

"(...) the prime minister replied that it was “the duty of the authorities to be guided, first and foremost, by state interests.”"

I know that it is probably too much to ask, but wouldn't it be nice if a prime minister, president or something like that said - just for once: Our duty is to be guided, first and foremost, by what is right and fair, and not by selfish state interests.

Wouldn't that be a nice change?
--

Felix

pre 15 godina

Pressure? Well, these are the little pleasures of being an independent "country".

Now really, why did you think you were getting any support for "independence"?

pleurat

pre 15 godina

CrnaGora will recognize Kosovo de jure soon,but talking about pressure,who pressurised the good old USA to recognize Kosovo.nobody but good morals.

Alban

pre 15 godina

"Wait wait wait, I was under impression that EU was an economic Union not a dictatorial superstate with collective foregin policy. "

Whatever it is, no one forces anyone to join, in fact, others beg EU and go through the hoops to join.


>>"Pressure? Well, these are the little pleasures of being an independent "country"."
EU pressures some states, Russia pressures others (Serbia and NIS for example)

Crna Gora left Serbia, remember the vote?

Dragan, Pancevo

pre 15 godina

Long after empires erode and decay, the memories remain. Don't be a fool Milo. Don't betray the memories of your forefathers and our common history, heritage and culture.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 15 godina

as for bosnia (who was asking?), they need to also recognize Kosovo/a, for exactly the reasons i have outlined. if dodik tries standing in the way, overrule him, two v. one. if he threatens to retaliate, oust him, something the High Rep should have done a long time ago.
(roberto, 10 September 2008 05:12)

Do you have any notion of what happened in YU or are you going to continue to pollute this site with your ill-concieved and ill-thought comments and continued Serbophobia.

Oh yeah, outvote the Serbs and recognise 'Kosova' you say. If that happened, Banja Luka would say screw you and its sayonara BiH. And any attempt by NATO to impose its will on the B-Serbs will mean only 1 thing, confrontation.

Do you know what happened the last time Sarajevo tried to pull a fast one on the B-Serbs on Enlightened One.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I think that some of you have a slight case of memory loss. no -- make that a major case. let's return to the "good" old days, shall we folks? first slovenia, then croatia, then bosnia, then macedonia (i think that's right), and finally montenegro all declared their independence from "yugoslavia" (actually, serboslavia). each and every one, for reasons obvious and complex. mostly obvious. last but not least, shock shock, was kosovo/a's turn. they don't wish to be a part of serboslavia; oh what a shock...

so for the other now-independent, once ex-YU entities to recognize the newest independent country of the region, kosovo/a, is absolutely logical and right.

i am so sick of all the lies and twisting rhetoric of the s-extemists. the case is crystal clear, and if montenegro wishes to be taken seriously on the world stage, and act in a civilized manner, then recognize. otherwise, don't, be hypocrites, and face the consequences. like no EU. is that really so complicated?!

as for bosnia (who was asking?), they need to also recognize Kosovo/a, for exactly the reasons i have outlined. if dodik tries standing in the way, overrule him, two v. one. if he threatens to retaliate, oust him, something the High Rep should have done a long time ago.

Branislav

pre 15 godina

Roberto wrote:
"I think that some of you have a slight case of memory loss. no -- make that a major case."
Dear Roberto,
you obviously have very little knowledge of former Yugoslavia and the reasons for it's sad disintegration. Please do some serious reading before trying to post some more meaningful comment about that.
For example this article by Dr.Michel Chossudovsky about dismantling of Yugoslavia would help:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/022.html

Independent

pre 15 godina

When Serbia ratified the SAA without Kosovo, what you expect from Montenegro to say Kosovo is part of Montenegro?
It is about time when Montenegro to recognize. It is about time when in Serbia the common sense will prevail and they will establish good neighboring relationship with Republic of Kosovo. Unless you don’t believe in normal Serbia.

Dane

pre 15 godina

Recogniton of Kosovo as independent state from Montenegro will happen soon. This is a message Djukanovic is sending to Kosovo, Serbia and international community. Because of special relations between Podgorica and Belgrade, this decision of Podgorica Djukanovic is trying to hide behind pression coming from international community. Djukanovic, be brave and stay behind your decisions...

pleurat

pre 15 godina

CrnaGora will recognize Kosovo de jure soon,but talking about pressure,who pressurised the good old USA to recognize Kosovo.nobody but good morals.

Jevic

pre 15 godina

PM Milo Đukanović Please dont abandon your brothers and sisters in Serbia.

Please dont let your country be used by the WEST for their own selfish interest.

Soon the albanians in montenegro will follow the albanians in kosovo and carve out their own country.

gw

pre 15 godina

Send a statement and kick out the ambassadors even if they are from the US and UK.  I just wish we could kick out our politicians, but we, the US voters, have no say, it is no longer a decomcracy here in the good old USA.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

I wonder how many countries would recognize Kosovo if they were not under pressure to do so.
As far as Montenegro is concerned they cannot betray they brothers any more than they already have by declaring their own independence or shall I say dependence.
Milo always knew what was expected of him. He wasn't supported by the west for nothing. He owes them that and he knows it.

So, Milo, just be done with it and recognize Kosovo now. We are all sick of your whinging all the time. Gee we are under pressure to do this but we are not sure. You are fooling nobody. You just don't care what Serbia thinks. You are only worried about your own cushy job.
So show your true face and just get on with it so you can be voted out. Just maybe, the next guy will be a true Serb instead of a US slave.

Branislav

pre 15 godina

I sincerely hope that government of Montenegro will not have to be condescending to Orwellian manner of solving ethnic conflicts - which US is so vehemently conducting, and her clients just imitating.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

The guy is heading into political suicide. Probably no amount of smoke from almost-genuine cigarettes can hide him. Do it one way... and the majority of population will vote you out. Do it the other way... and the bushman-tribe will be angry. Best is: do nothing, just sell more cigarettes.

Alban

pre 15 godina

"Wait wait wait, I was under impression that EU was an economic Union not a dictatorial superstate with collective foregin policy. "

Whatever it is, no one forces anyone to join, in fact, others beg EU and go through the hoops to join.


>>"Pressure? Well, these are the little pleasures of being an independent "country"."
EU pressures some states, Russia pressures others (Serbia and NIS for example)

Crna Gora left Serbia, remember the vote?

GSP

pre 15 godina

No one works well under pressure. What value add would Montenegro gain from recognizing Kosovo? Absolutely nothing except the fact that they are as foolish as the rest of the countries that recognized Kosovo.

Stand for something or fall for anything.....balls in your court.

BKK

pre 15 godina

''If we want to be part of the European and Euro-Atlantic community, then our partners from those communities expect us to follow the main foreign policy paths of that community,”

Wait wait wait, I was under impression that EU was an economic Union not a dictatorial superstate with collective foregin policy.
Ah well, I guess arguments of Nigel Farage hold more true than anything ever to come out of European Officials's mouth.

How ironic, and particulary so for Croatia and Montenegro how they 'heroically' broke away from evil claws of Serbia seeking soverginity, but then would sell their souls to be second class citizens in United States of Europe.

Serbs, Montenegrians, Albanians and Croatians, you are a CHEAP labour for the West that will do the jobs they don't want to do for the less money they did it for. You are disposable military force noone would think twice sending to our deaths over Euro-American imperialism.

It is naive to think 'democratic' Wests treats anyone East of Germany as their equals.

Jan Andersen, DK

pre 15 godina

From the article:

"(...) the prime minister replied that it was “the duty of the authorities to be guided, first and foremost, by state interests.”"

I know that it is probably too much to ask, but wouldn't it be nice if a prime minister, president or something like that said - just for once: Our duty is to be guided, first and foremost, by what is right and fair, and not by selfish state interests.

Wouldn't that be a nice change?
--

roberto

pre 15 godina

I think that some of you have a slight case of memory loss. no -- make that a major case. let's return to the "good" old days, shall we folks? first slovenia, then croatia, then bosnia, then macedonia (i think that's right), and finally montenegro all declared their independence from "yugoslavia" (actually, serboslavia). each and every one, for reasons obvious and complex. mostly obvious. last but not least, shock shock, was kosovo/a's turn. they don't wish to be a part of serboslavia; oh what a shock...

so for the other now-independent, once ex-YU entities to recognize the newest independent country of the region, kosovo/a, is absolutely logical and right.

i am so sick of all the lies and twisting rhetoric of the s-extemists. the case is crystal clear, and if montenegro wishes to be taken seriously on the world stage, and act in a civilized manner, then recognize. otherwise, don't, be hypocrites, and face the consequences. like no EU. is that really so complicated?!

as for bosnia (who was asking?), they need to also recognize Kosovo/a, for exactly the reasons i have outlined. if dodik tries standing in the way, overrule him, two v. one. if he threatens to retaliate, oust him, something the High Rep should have done a long time ago.

Dragan, Pancevo

pre 15 godina

Long after empires erode and decay, the memories remain. Don't be a fool Milo. Don't betray the memories of your forefathers and our common history, heritage and culture.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 15 godina

as for bosnia (who was asking?), they need to also recognize Kosovo/a, for exactly the reasons i have outlined. if dodik tries standing in the way, overrule him, two v. one. if he threatens to retaliate, oust him, something the High Rep should have done a long time ago.
(roberto, 10 September 2008 05:12)

Do you have any notion of what happened in YU or are you going to continue to pollute this site with your ill-concieved and ill-thought comments and continued Serbophobia.

Oh yeah, outvote the Serbs and recognise 'Kosova' you say. If that happened, Banja Luka would say screw you and its sayonara BiH. And any attempt by NATO to impose its will on the B-Serbs will mean only 1 thing, confrontation.

Do you know what happened the last time Sarajevo tried to pull a fast one on the B-Serbs on Enlightened One.

Felix

pre 15 godina

Pressure? Well, these are the little pleasures of being an independent "country".

Now really, why did you think you were getting any support for "independence"?

usaSERB

pre 15 godina

One of the west's goals has always been to divide orthodox people. I just don’t understand how some politicians can be so gullible and naïve.If Mr. Đukanovic caves in to pressure of our enemies he will go down in history as one of the biggest traitors of orthodox people.

Branislav

pre 15 godina

Roberto wrote:
"I think that some of you have a slight case of memory loss. no -- make that a major case."
Dear Roberto,
you obviously have very little knowledge of former Yugoslavia and the reasons for it's sad disintegration. Please do some serious reading before trying to post some more meaningful comment about that.
For example this article by Dr.Michel Chossudovsky about dismantling of Yugoslavia would help:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/022.html