Ukraine's presidential party quits ruling coalition

I think this shows that the West is spreading Eastward too quickly and people are just not ready for it yet.

Ukraine is perhaps a good investment for the EU and NATO in the very long run, but for the moment there is just too much division amidst the civilian population, who quite frankly, are too poor to care about the business-orientated reforms that the EU demands, and are just getting poorer as a result while some 10%-20% of the country actually benefits. Same will probably be for Georgia as well as Moldova.

The same with NATO. How does Ukraine (or Moldova eventually) see itself joining NATO when they are completely reliant on Russian parts/technology and have no money for alternative Western weaponry? Georgia should also not join NATO because:

1) It's army is a complete and utter joke! To be trained by the US and Israel and partly armed by them and for them to be completely annihilated by five days by North Caucasian irregulars armed with 70's Soviet weaponry (no one will convince me that was actually Russia's regular army) just shows what a serious partner Georgia's army would be to NATO.

2) They have a stupid and impulsive leader who counted on the fact that the West would leap in and save his country from Russia after starting a war that cost the lives of hundreds of people, and has only further distanced his country from the two disputed regions.

To conclude: Ukraine is suffering a political crisis much like the one Uzbekistan did a few years back, it was a part of GUAM and is now a part of CSTO and SCO. Why is that? Because people could not adapt to the pro-West views as they saw no benefit in them. The same will be with the Ukraine I fear, as well as Moldova. Georgia is not Europe anyway, so why are they even considering EU entry or hoisting EU flags alongside their own? As the Czech president said, one should not consider membership of something if it does not belong there.

After the Western Balkans, the EU and NATO should close off all membership opportunities further East (though if Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and the microstates still want to join the EU and Swizterland, Sweden, Austria, Finland, Ireland and the microstates still want to join NATO, they should be allowed to).

That would be the best way to ensure peace in Europe.

The end is nearing for all of these velvet revolutionaries - Ukraine, Georgia and Serbia will shortly have leaders that are loyal to the people and not subservient to some deceitful and agressive masters.

Power to the people and may freedom prosper!

an nice collection of individual opinions, Peter, but you can read all the facts in the article of B92.

the history of Ukraine is very interesting - even the name of the country derives from it's geographical and cultural border situation. from my point of view, the country will prosper more and faster in the western hemisphere, but it is the decision of the citizens of Ukraine.

I think, there is no need to integrate the Ukraine into the EU, as long, as there are the basic democratic standards not established yet - mutual benefit and a peaceful neighbourhood can be also based on partnership agreements. I think the same about other countries, in particular Serbia proofes, that the country is far away from any democratic standards. Serbia must solve this obstacles by itself, as well as Ukraine will do that. maybe this will need 20 years or more for both countries. there is no hurry for the EU - the dynamical phase of integrating new countries seems to be over and the work on substantial developement will need all the ressources next years. from my point of view this would be the right direction - because weak partners weaken the whole EU and this endangers the basic ideas of the EU.

I have been in UA lately..it's a mess...everybody is hoping in a taumaturgic intervention from Eu that will never be..
Better divide the country give the Bear the center-east and the Western oblast to Poland-Hungary and Romania and will be better...

an nice collection of individual opinions, Peter, but you can read all the facts in the article of B92.

the history of Ukraine is very interesting - even the name of the country derives from it's geographical and cultural border situation. from my point of view, the country will prosper more and faster in the western hemisphere, but it is the decision of the citizens of Ukraine.

I think, there is no need to integrate the Ukraine into the EU, as long, as there are the basic democratic standards not established yet - mutual benefit and a peaceful neighbourhood can be also based on partnership agreements. I think the same about other countries, in particular Serbia proofes, that the country is far away from any democratic standards. Serbia must solve this obstacles by itself, as well as Ukraine will do that. maybe this will need 20 years or more for both countries. there is no hurry for the EU - the dynamical phase of integrating new countries seems to be over and the work on substantial developement will need all the ressources next years. from my point of view this would be the right direction - because weak partners weaken the whole EU and this endangers the basic ideas of the EU.

I have been in UA lately..it's a mess...everybody is hoping in a taumaturgic intervention from Eu that will never be..
Better divide the country give the Bear the center-east and the Western oblast to Poland-Hungary and Romania and will be better...

I think this shows that the West is spreading Eastward too quickly and people are just not ready for it yet.

Ukraine is perhaps a good investment for the EU and NATO in the very long run, but for the moment there is just too much division amidst the civilian population, who quite frankly, are too poor to care about the business-orientated reforms that the EU demands, and are just getting poorer as a result while some 10%-20% of the country actually benefits. Same will probably be for Georgia as well as Moldova.

The same with NATO. How does Ukraine (or Moldova eventually) see itself joining NATO when they are completely reliant on Russian parts/technology and have no money for alternative Western weaponry? Georgia should also not join NATO because:

1) It's army is a complete and utter joke! To be trained by the US and Israel and partly armed by them and for them to be completely annihilated by five days by North Caucasian irregulars armed with 70's Soviet weaponry (no one will convince me that was actually Russia's regular army) just shows what a serious partner Georgia's army would be to NATO.

2) They have a stupid and impulsive leader who counted on the fact that the West would leap in and save his country from Russia after starting a war that cost the lives of hundreds of people, and has only further distanced his country from the two disputed regions.

To conclude: Ukraine is suffering a political crisis much like the one Uzbekistan did a few years back, it was a part of GUAM and is now a part of CSTO and SCO. Why is that? Because people could not adapt to the pro-West views as they saw no benefit in them. The same will be with the Ukraine I fear, as well as Moldova. Georgia is not Europe anyway, so why are they even considering EU entry or hoisting EU flags alongside their own? As the Czech president said, one should not consider membership of something if it does not belong there.

After the Western Balkans, the EU and NATO should close off all membership opportunities further East (though if Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and the microstates still want to join the EU and Swizterland, Sweden, Austria, Finland, Ireland and the microstates still want to join NATO, they should be allowed to).

That would be the best way to ensure peace in Europe.

The end is nearing for all of these velvet revolutionaries - Ukraine, Georgia and Serbia will shortly have leaders that are loyal to the people and not subservient to some deceitful and agressive masters.

Power to the people and may freedom prosper!