"Kosovo as special as 200 other cases"

"Chizhov underscored that it is "difficult to defend the stand that what is permitted to Kosovo Albanians is not permitted to anyone else in the world"."

It is as difficult to to defend that what is permitted to South Ossetia and Abkhazia is not permitted to Kosovo.

Double standards are not a Western privilege, it seems.

Beuk, Russia did not instigate the "double standards", we now speak of in international diplomcy. It was the US and it's EU underlings. Do you see the difference? I realize your hatred for Russia, as most anti-Russian commentators here are Albanian but, it is the US/EU that has established these standards, not Russia. If their was no recognition of an independent Albanian Kosovo by the West, Russsia would have no argument now, would they?

200? I can think only of one, which really has almost the same fate as Kosova, and that is Chechenia, where without merci, like in Kosova, towns and villages were bombed, and inocennt civilians killed, from a much more advanced military and yet the same ,from far away, but neither Russia or Serbia had the guts to have a front war with those small states soldiers.
And also there are not 200 states recognised from the bigest powers on the world, it is only one and that is KOSOVA, so Russia humiliated yet again itself, buy trying to put paralels betwen, however it has just shown itself how powerless it is, because soon we will see the whole Georgia and in very near future, Kosova, in EU and NATO so the dreams of Russia for again being a power for a new Cold War, will be gonne.

Mr. Chizov was obviously not prepared for this interview. He sounds like the foreign minister of any downtown kafana in BG.

Anyway - the overwhelming international support for the Russian Blitzkrieg in Georgia says all. All are wrong, only Russia is right. And Chizov too, of course.

Kosova should not have been part of Serbia ever. It should have not been needed to liberate this country from ethnic cleansers and so on! I is obvious that Kosova is the ancient Dardania, kingdom of dardans, the kosovaalbaian grand-grandfathers an Illyrian tribe. While suoth slavs, imigrated to Balkanic peninsulla only after yhr 6 centaury after birth of Christ, Illyrians had lived in this teritory at liest 3000 years. This is just one of the historic arguments to underline that Dardania (Kosova), was never part of Serbia. The ocupation is something else. Kosova also was to comme together with Albania after the Second World War this acording to a deal between Albania and Yuogoslavia. Albanian partizans liberated Kosobva and chased the germans even from southen part of Serbia almost as far north as Kragujevc town. Kosova is "sui generis" case. Something close to Kosova must be the cases of Chechnya, Tibet, Taiwan, and Bali. I support the independence of this countries and a large autonomy for Northern Ciprus.

"200? I can think only of one, which really has almost the same fate as Kosova, and that is Chechenia, where without merci, like in Kosova, towns and villages were bombed, and inocennt civilians killed, from a much more advanced military and yet the same ,from far away, but neither Russia or Serbia had the guts to have a front war with those small states soldiers."

"Albano, Albano" - where all those internationally brave KLA soldiers were when Serbian soldiers roll over Serbian Southern Province - Kosovo. Begging for help from masters US and other brave nations. Only Serbia faced the mighty Cowards who bombed from 10000km for months from very distance. They stayed proud and straight and remmember the honest invitation (commanders on the ground) saying - we are ready cowards - come close and fight like real man not like a cowards. But everybody chicken out. And only way to go out of cowardly fought war was to sign the deal with Serbian side using Russia as mediator to promise that Kosovo will stay Serbian teritory. And now they forgot how they went out of trouble and what they promise and signed.

now we know why mother russia didn't lift a finger when kosovo declared independence. they were too busy planning how they were going to use the precedent to their advanrage. and to think that big stupid Serbia was hoping Russia were going to come to her aid.

Well stated Russia. Hold the line. Self interest on the part of the EU and USA is not the same as truth or legality.

Bravo Chizov! Bravo Russia!

Now if we could get the Serbian Government to take a stand on the behalf of Serbia.

The West has "amazing double standards", Chizhov

Chechnya????

If Russia were to recognize Kosovo, people may take his argument seriously. But as it is no one sees it as anything more than political rhetoric.

(svojgazda, 3 September 2008 04:39)

"I realize your hatred for Russia, as most anti-Russian commentators here are Albanian but, it is the US/EU that has established these standards, not Russia."

Dear Svojgazda, I just pointed out that both East and West (whatever this may mean on a round globe) are showing double standards.

I was not choosing any side.

it is very unfortunate that this debate continues, drawing back upon the yellowing pages of history. Maybe, sure at one point the Illirian tribes lived in the region currently known as kosovo. However this tribe no londer exists. The decendants of such a tribe may infact be the current day albanian population, but they are not what they may have once been. Sure, the slavs moved into the region in the 6th century. Fair enough. That would mean that either the previous land holders either abandoned the land, in which case the have no furter claims to it, or they were defeated off of the land, and again if you consider current political structures, many of the world's nations had their borders forged through conflicts. This renders your outrageously historical claims irrelvant. Infact, the more relavent historical claims do infact come as a result of the "latest owner" paradigm. See, we can all agree that the romans once controlled the whole of the mediteranian, however italy does not. we call also agree that the greeks controlled much of the mediteranian and deep into the middle east, yet the no longer control it.
Kosovo is now controlled (still quite UNOFFICIALLY since according to article 25 of the un charter "only Security Council decisions are binding for all members of the world organisation. - and since the security council has not made a descision on this matter the state is not offcial yet) albanian decendants, through the us and eu machinery, so one might say that it is infact a plot of land that belongs to the us and eu, moreso than it does the kosovars themselves. further, if we use the rules of current landowndership, then we can allow for us to own it's land -- because for the time of the illirians, before the time of the greeks, before the time of the dardainians, the native peoples of the americas owned that land, yet they do not now. similary the serbs owned the land where kosovo is until they were taken over by the approaching ottoman empire. it was the serbian immigrants that battle over that land, not the illirian decendants. it was further recalimed within the kingdom of serbs prior to ww1, once it was wrestled free from the retreating ottomans. Since ww1, and the reclaimation of kosovo, and reestablishment of the kingdom of serbia, kosovo has been a part of serbia, has been a plot of land within serbia, and following the latest owner precident kosovo is a part of serbia.
had kosvars fought for their freedom and won it in a battle the picture would be different, however resolution 1244 was signed in order to halt the waring, and protected kosovo as a province of serbia.
According to all the rules, there is no legitamate way one can see that kosovo can be its own state, independant as it claims.
However, this will not prevent the us from implementing audatious double standards where they see fit. if the us can do it, so can the russians.
thats the beauty of double standards, they always come back to bite you in the rear.

"200? I can think only of one, which really has almost the same fate as Kosova, and that is Chechenia, where without merci, like in Kosova, towns and villages were bombed, and inocennt civilians killed, from a much more advanced military and yet the same ,from far away, but neither Russia or Serbia had the guts to have a front war with those small states soldiers."

"Albano, Albano" - where all those internationally brave KLA soldiers were when Serbian soldiers roll over Serbian Southern Province - Kosovo. Begging for help from masters US and other brave nations. Only Serbia faced the mighty Cowards who bombed from 10000km for months from very distance. They stayed proud and straight and remmember the honest invitation (commanders on the ground) saying - we are ready cowards - come close and fight like real man not like a cowards. But everybody chicken out. And only way to go out of cowardly fought war was to sign the deal with Serbian side using Russia as mediator to promise that Kosovo will stay Serbian teritory. And now they forgot how they went out of trouble and what they promise and signed.

Kosova should not have been part of Serbia ever. It should have not been needed to liberate this country from ethnic cleansers and so on! I is obvious that Kosova is the ancient Dardania, kingdom of dardans, the kosovaalbaian grand-grandfathers an Illyrian tribe. While suoth slavs, imigrated to Balkanic peninsulla only after yhr 6 centaury after birth of Christ, Illyrians had lived in this teritory at liest 3000 years. This is just one of the historic arguments to underline that Dardania (Kosova), was never part of Serbia. The ocupation is something else. Kosova also was to comme together with Albania after the Second World War this acording to a deal between Albania and Yuogoslavia. Albanian partizans liberated Kosobva and chased the germans even from southen part of Serbia almost as far north as Kragujevc town. Kosova is "sui generis" case. Something close to Kosova must be the cases of Chechnya, Tibet, Taiwan, and Bali. I support the independence of this countries and a large autonomy for Northern Ciprus.

"Chizhov underscored that it is "difficult to defend the stand that what is permitted to Kosovo Albanians is not permitted to anyone else in the world"."

It is as difficult to to defend that what is permitted to South Ossetia and Abkhazia is not permitted to Kosovo.

Double standards are not a Western privilege, it seems.

Beuk, Russia did not instigate the "double standards", we now speak of in international diplomcy. It was the US and it's EU underlings. Do you see the difference? I realize your hatred for Russia, as most anti-Russian commentators here are Albanian but, it is the US/EU that has established these standards, not Russia. If their was no recognition of an independent Albanian Kosovo by the West, Russsia would have no argument now, would they?

now we know why mother russia didn't lift a finger when kosovo declared independence. they were too busy planning how they were going to use the precedent to their advanrage. and to think that big stupid Serbia was hoping Russia were going to come to her aid.

Mr. Chizov was obviously not prepared for this interview. He sounds like the foreign minister of any downtown kafana in BG.

Anyway - the overwhelming international support for the Russian Blitzkrieg in Georgia says all. All are wrong, only Russia is right. And Chizov too, of course.

200? I can think only of one, which really has almost the same fate as Kosova, and that is Chechenia, where without merci, like in Kosova, towns and villages were bombed, and inocennt civilians killed, from a much more advanced military and yet the same ,from far away, but neither Russia or Serbia had the guts to have a front war with those small states soldiers.
And also there are not 200 states recognised from the bigest powers on the world, it is only one and that is KOSOVA, so Russia humiliated yet again itself, buy trying to put paralels betwen, however it has just shown itself how powerless it is, because soon we will see the whole Georgia and in very near future, Kosova, in EU and NATO so the dreams of Russia for again being a power for a new Cold War, will be gonne.

(svojgazda, 3 September 2008 04:39)

"I realize your hatred for Russia, as most anti-Russian commentators here are Albanian but, it is the US/EU that has established these standards, not Russia."

Dear Svojgazda, I just pointed out that both East and West (whatever this may mean on a round globe) are showing double standards.

I was not choosing any side.

Well stated Russia. Hold the line. Self interest on the part of the EU and USA is not the same as truth or legality.

Bravo Chizov! Bravo Russia!

Now if we could get the Serbian Government to take a stand on the behalf of Serbia.

If Russia were to recognize Kosovo, people may take his argument seriously. But as it is no one sees it as anything more than political rhetoric.

The West has "amazing double standards", Chizhov

Chechnya????

it is very unfortunate that this debate continues, drawing back upon the yellowing pages of history. Maybe, sure at one point the Illirian tribes lived in the region currently known as kosovo. However this tribe no londer exists. The decendants of such a tribe may infact be the current day albanian population, but they are not what they may have once been. Sure, the slavs moved into the region in the 6th century. Fair enough. That would mean that either the previous land holders either abandoned the land, in which case the have no furter claims to it, or they were defeated off of the land, and again if you consider current political structures, many of the world's nations had their borders forged through conflicts. This renders your outrageously historical claims irrelvant. Infact, the more relavent historical claims do infact come as a result of the "latest owner" paradigm. See, we can all agree that the romans once controlled the whole of the mediteranian, however italy does not. we call also agree that the greeks controlled much of the mediteranian and deep into the middle east, yet the no longer control it.
Kosovo is now controlled (still quite UNOFFICIALLY since according to article 25 of the un charter "only Security Council decisions are binding for all members of the world organisation. - and since the security council has not made a descision on this matter the state is not offcial yet) albanian decendants, through the us and eu machinery, so one might say that it is infact a plot of land that belongs to the us and eu, moreso than it does the kosovars themselves. further, if we use the rules of current landowndership, then we can allow for us to own it's land -- because for the time of the illirians, before the time of the greeks, before the time of the dardainians, the native peoples of the americas owned that land, yet they do not now. similary the serbs owned the land where kosovo is until they were taken over by the approaching ottoman empire. it was the serbian immigrants that battle over that land, not the illirian decendants. it was further recalimed within the kingdom of serbs prior to ww1, once it was wrestled free from the retreating ottomans. Since ww1, and the reclaimation of kosovo, and reestablishment of the kingdom of serbia, kosovo has been a part of serbia, has been a plot of land within serbia, and following the latest owner precident kosovo is a part of serbia.
had kosvars fought for their freedom and won it in a battle the picture would be different, however resolution 1244 was signed in order to halt the waring, and protected kosovo as a province of serbia.
According to all the rules, there is no legitamate way one can see that kosovo can be its own state, independant as it claims.
However, this will not prevent the us from implementing audatious double standards where they see fit. if the us can do it, so can the russians.
thats the beauty of double standards, they always come back to bite you in the rear.