"Recognition process unstoppable"

Oh boy, here we go again!
Let's see the K-Albanaian bobblehead leadership clearly stated that “I do not believe that the Kosovo recognition process can be stopped, more countries will recognize us." Hmm, are they expecting Georgia, Spain, Cyprus, Greece, Russia, China, etc to be among the first in line to voice their support for Kosovo UDI? Have they completely lost what remains of their collective common sense? Right now, the only thing that is imminent is the ICJ case by Serbia which the rest of the war-weary world is looking forward to. I haven't read or heard of any statements from the Western leadership that they are pushing for further Kosovo recognition... on the contrary after the Georgia-Russia conflict everyone is keeping quiet on the subject. Maybe the West bit off more than they can chew? I think that Kosovo should be content with what they have right now and await for the dust to settle before seeking further recognition from abroad... Hey how about concentrating on improving your economy, infrastructure, the lives of your people?

No one can stop the will of 2 million Kosovo people to live freely, happy, without being controlled by a (dying pro-communist, pro-socialist) government of Serbia.

(Freeman, 13 August 2008 16:58)

So because of the fact that you out number the Serbs on their own land, ‘might is right’ now applies? You are simply squatters that decided to steal someone else’s property. Nothing more.
If you really were “controlled by a (dying pro-communist, pro-socialist) government of Serbia” why didn’t you just leave? No one was stopping you.


the late conflict between Russia and georgia is a nightmare for Serbia. No wonder no serbian politician has the guts to coment publicly on this conflict.

(Ahmet Isufi, 13 August 2008 17:59)

Far from it. Russia intervened when Russian citizens were being killed just as Serbia intervened when the KLA were murdering Serbs. In fact, the Serbs had more right to intervene as it is their own land.

Thank you Mr Sejdiu - needed a good chuckle :)

Pity your words don't reflect reality.

Tell me please - as am actually quite curious about this. Just what countries have 'Kosovo officials' (as opposed to US, UK et al) persuaded to 'recognise' since that 1st wave?

Any at all?

what a dreamer this guy is. the bulk of the US pressured countries who recognized has been completed. look at the trend boys and girls, feb=21,mar=14,april=3,may=3,june=1,july=000,august= only 2. how pitiful it is for them begging to be recognized. especially now the whole world have watched the south ossetia thing which is very similar to this kosovo. come on people its time to wake up from your dreams.

Mr Freeman, you are right. the will of 2 millions people must be respected. But with all due respect, if the case is brought to the ICJ.. and that the ICJ declared that the unilateral declaration of independance is no legal and that in Legal terms, there is no country called "Kosovo". The 2 millions that wanted their will to be respected will have to respect that the ICJ is a LEGAL, COMPETENT and SUPPORTED BY THE WORLD (North, South, East, West) and that this decision will put your declaration into jeopardize and further negociations will have to be opened as to the definition of the status of Kosovo.. Because, for the moment, Kosovo is a Virtual Country and by the law, Kosovo is not a country since you need to support of more than 50% of all the countries in the world. Right now there are 192 countries on the planet. That means, you need 96 countries that recognize you in order to be a country legally and officially. So far 45 countries recognized Kosovo which is not even 25%. So I am sorry to break your bubble, but so far, Kosovo is still a "Virtual Country" and as long as you are in a process of recognition, countries that recognized can change their positions, international organisations can force the reopening of negotiations.. so basically, Everything can still be reversed.. I am sorry that the world doesnt turn the way you would like K-Albanians.. But you are not out of the process yet.. Far from it..

No one can stop the will of 2 million Kosovo people to live freely, happy, without being controlled by a (dying pro-communist, pro-socialist) government of Serbia. It is the duty of every freethinking man and woman to do its part in moving towards democracy. With all this said, yes President Sejdiu is right no one can stop the democracy in Kosovo...

the late conflict between Russia and georgia is a nightmare for Serbia. No wonder no serbian politician has the guts to coment publicly on this conflict. By the way, this conflict has sealed Serbias futire for ever.

(anon, 13 August 2008 18:56)

Anon, you are utterly missinformed.

IN Europe teh natives live in SOUTH the emmigrants live in NORTH.

KOSOVA is and was allways Albanian, Serbs are emmigrants of the 7th century, coming form north and pushing native into south- as much as possible- a land grabb.

Nations are not randomly distributed in teh space- teher are historical motives about where wone natione lives.

For the dreamers...., so true, so realistic

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/opinions.php?nav_id=52671

I constantly keep reading here that nobody can controll the will of two million Albanians and therefore they must be given Kosovo.
What exactly does that mean?
If the court rules against you are you going to turn to violence to establish a country called Kosova?
How are you going to impose your will on the world?

Everyone is always saying that independence was "the will of the people",when in the last election less than 30%legally voted for the "independence parties" in Kosovo.

Peggy,
The ICJ will give a nonbinding opinion not a ruling. One that Serbia will not honor should it not be in their favor. It will not change anything on the international scene. Those countries planning to recognize Kosovo will do so those who intend not to will also continue on that path. It may influence a few fence riders but probably not many.

to Peggy
If the court rules against you are you going to turn to violence to establish a country called Kosova?

Peggy we will do whatever it take to live free, and free for us means without Serbia, we have been there/it wasen`t fun.

So for all the serbs that they are placing all their hopes on this ruling; if ICJ rules on our favour does that mean that you people will leave us to live in peace? I doubt it!
Or maybe this is the way your new goverment wants you to put all your hopes in tis and if you loose than you can blame them for the loss of Kosovo and move on people


agim

Dear Peggy, Peter, Anon & Branco.Weren't you the same guys that prior to Feb 2007 saying that Kosovo will never declare independence? Well, they did and the kosovars are enjoying it now. There are some procceses in this world that you cannot reverse.

Peggy! does anybody knows that whatever court rules is just formal and doesn't mean it's going to be that way. The court might judge as wrong or right but cannot deny the indipendence

peggy what is they side with albanians, then what will you sebs do

Peggy:
Certainly got a response - must have touched a sore point :)

Albanian pack:
Notice only one of you actually answered Peggy's question - ie: whatever it takes. No surprise there as K-albanians don't exactly have a good track record when it comes to the 'rule of law'.

And while the any 'ruling' the ICJ makes on the independence issue will not have much of an effect on the stance of either side, & while it will not make much difference to the 'situation' on the ground, it will have an effect on future recognitions.

Those of you who 'parrot' the official line coming from pristina are welcome to do so - step forward & take a bow 'Duh' (name says it all), but bear in mind that this is the same source that believes that 'pristina' officials are 'doing their job' when it comes to recognitions.


Trim:
Never said anything of the kind. And reversal in the near or medium term - unlikely. In the long term?

Who knows.. I don't, & neither do you.

No one can stop the will of 2 million Kosovo people to live freely, happy, without being controlled by a (dying pro-communist, pro-socialist) government of Serbia. It is the duty of every freethinking man and woman to do its part in moving towards democracy. With all this said, yes President Sejdiu is right no one can stop the democracy in Kosovo...

(anon, 13 August 2008 18:56)

Anon, you are utterly missinformed.

IN Europe teh natives live in SOUTH the emmigrants live in NORTH.

KOSOVA is and was allways Albanian, Serbs are emmigrants of the 7th century, coming form north and pushing native into south- as much as possible- a land grabb.

Nations are not randomly distributed in teh space- teher are historical motives about where wone natione lives.

the late conflict between Russia and georgia is a nightmare for Serbia. No wonder no serbian politician has the guts to coment publicly on this conflict. By the way, this conflict has sealed Serbias futire for ever.

Dear Peggy, Peter, Anon & Branco.Weren't you the same guys that prior to Feb 2007 saying that Kosovo will never declare independence? Well, they did and the kosovars are enjoying it now. There are some procceses in this world that you cannot reverse.

Peggy! does anybody knows that whatever court rules is just formal and doesn't mean it's going to be that way. The court might judge as wrong or right but cannot deny the indipendence

peggy what is they side with albanians, then what will you sebs do

to Peggy
If the court rules against you are you going to turn to violence to establish a country called Kosova?

Peggy we will do whatever it take to live free, and free for us means without Serbia, we have been there/it wasen`t fun.

So for all the serbs that they are placing all their hopes on this ruling; if ICJ rules on our favour does that mean that you people will leave us to live in peace? I doubt it!
Or maybe this is the way your new goverment wants you to put all your hopes in tis and if you loose than you can blame them for the loss of Kosovo and move on people


agim

Peggy,
The ICJ will give a nonbinding opinion not a ruling. One that Serbia will not honor should it not be in their favor. It will not change anything on the international scene. Those countries planning to recognize Kosovo will do so those who intend not to will also continue on that path. It may influence a few fence riders but probably not many.

Thank you Mr Sejdiu - needed a good chuckle :)

Pity your words don't reflect reality.

Tell me please - as am actually quite curious about this. Just what countries have 'Kosovo officials' (as opposed to US, UK et al) persuaded to 'recognise' since that 1st wave?

Any at all?

No one can stop the will of 2 million Kosovo people to live freely, happy, without being controlled by a (dying pro-communist, pro-socialist) government of Serbia.

(Freeman, 13 August 2008 16:58)

So because of the fact that you out number the Serbs on their own land, ‘might is right’ now applies? You are simply squatters that decided to steal someone else’s property. Nothing more.
If you really were “controlled by a (dying pro-communist, pro-socialist) government of Serbia” why didn’t you just leave? No one was stopping you.


the late conflict between Russia and georgia is a nightmare for Serbia. No wonder no serbian politician has the guts to coment publicly on this conflict.

(Ahmet Isufi, 13 August 2008 17:59)

Far from it. Russia intervened when Russian citizens were being killed just as Serbia intervened when the KLA were murdering Serbs. In fact, the Serbs had more right to intervene as it is their own land.

I constantly keep reading here that nobody can controll the will of two million Albanians and therefore they must be given Kosovo.
What exactly does that mean?
If the court rules against you are you going to turn to violence to establish a country called Kosova?
How are you going to impose your will on the world?

Oh boy, here we go again!
Let's see the K-Albanaian bobblehead leadership clearly stated that “I do not believe that the Kosovo recognition process can be stopped, more countries will recognize us." Hmm, are they expecting Georgia, Spain, Cyprus, Greece, Russia, China, etc to be among the first in line to voice their support for Kosovo UDI? Have they completely lost what remains of their collective common sense? Right now, the only thing that is imminent is the ICJ case by Serbia which the rest of the war-weary world is looking forward to. I haven't read or heard of any statements from the Western leadership that they are pushing for further Kosovo recognition... on the contrary after the Georgia-Russia conflict everyone is keeping quiet on the subject. Maybe the West bit off more than they can chew? I think that Kosovo should be content with what they have right now and await for the dust to settle before seeking further recognition from abroad... Hey how about concentrating on improving your economy, infrastructure, the lives of your people?

Mr Freeman, you are right. the will of 2 millions people must be respected. But with all due respect, if the case is brought to the ICJ.. and that the ICJ declared that the unilateral declaration of independance is no legal and that in Legal terms, there is no country called "Kosovo". The 2 millions that wanted their will to be respected will have to respect that the ICJ is a LEGAL, COMPETENT and SUPPORTED BY THE WORLD (North, South, East, West) and that this decision will put your declaration into jeopardize and further negociations will have to be opened as to the definition of the status of Kosovo.. Because, for the moment, Kosovo is a Virtual Country and by the law, Kosovo is not a country since you need to support of more than 50% of all the countries in the world. Right now there are 192 countries on the planet. That means, you need 96 countries that recognize you in order to be a country legally and officially. So far 45 countries recognized Kosovo which is not even 25%. So I am sorry to break your bubble, but so far, Kosovo is still a "Virtual Country" and as long as you are in a process of recognition, countries that recognized can change their positions, international organisations can force the reopening of negotiations.. so basically, Everything can still be reversed.. I am sorry that the world doesnt turn the way you would like K-Albanians.. But you are not out of the process yet.. Far from it..

what a dreamer this guy is. the bulk of the US pressured countries who recognized has been completed. look at the trend boys and girls, feb=21,mar=14,april=3,may=3,june=1,july=000,august= only 2. how pitiful it is for them begging to be recognized. especially now the whole world have watched the south ossetia thing which is very similar to this kosovo. come on people its time to wake up from your dreams.

For the dreamers...., so true, so realistic

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/opinions.php?nav_id=52671

Everyone is always saying that independence was "the will of the people",when in the last election less than 30%legally voted for the "independence parties" in Kosovo.

Peggy:
Certainly got a response - must have touched a sore point :)

Albanian pack:
Notice only one of you actually answered Peggy's question - ie: whatever it takes. No surprise there as K-albanians don't exactly have a good track record when it comes to the 'rule of law'.

And while the any 'ruling' the ICJ makes on the independence issue will not have much of an effect on the stance of either side, & while it will not make much difference to the 'situation' on the ground, it will have an effect on future recognitions.

Those of you who 'parrot' the official line coming from pristina are welcome to do so - step forward & take a bow 'Duh' (name says it all), but bear in mind that this is the same source that believes that 'pristina' officials are 'doing their job' when it comes to recognitions.


Trim:
Never said anything of the kind. And reversal in the near or medium term - unlikely. In the long term?

Who knows.. I don't, & neither do you.