Mr. Fatmir Sejdiu please stop your continued nonsense claimed that kosovo is a unique / special case. Serbia had always believed the west had practiced double standard. they (west) are so vocal about respecting Georgia's territorial integrity but totally disrespect serbia's UN recognized borders which includes kosovo province.
As long as Russia,China and majority of UN countries supports Serbia. the so called kosovo state will remain a FAKE.
Funny Mr Sejdiu, the whole world is saying that Georgian conflict is a direct result of Kosovo recognition but you know better.
Also, spare us the "unique" case rubbish. Either explain what is so unique about Kosovo or just stop saying it.
You have started something based on a lie and have managed to drag some of the countries into this but you cannot succeed. Either all the other separatists get a country or you will have to give up your dream of having a second Albania.
I wonder which one the world will choose.
yes, yes, the EXYU-army was some kind of peacekeeping troop in Kosovo!!
sorry for this bad bad joke. but it is the same, what most of pro-Serbian posters are doing here. okay, I don't use hidden racism - but this has nothing to do with the fact, that I am not Serbian. I hate racism and regret those who use racism as arguments - and I wish, pro-Serbian poster will understand, that the bad image of Serbia is linked with them directly.
Kosovo has nothing to do with South Ossetia - inspite the fact, that it is a territory, where the majority of it's inhabitants are seeking independence from the state, in which is incorportated.
I wonder, how consequently the Serbian government follows the policy of Milosevic & Co. until year 2008. of course, the measures became civilised under massive pressure. the Russians claimed the same in South Ossetia now, including the abstruse right to bomb whatever they like outside the conflict zone - as the NATO did in Belgrade and Novi Sad. no one should say, that the world did not see and condemn that - this is a Serbian myth.
conclusion: if Kosovo is the same like South Ossetia, then it would be logical, that Russia must recognize Kosovo. if it is not the same, then it is neither a argument for or territorial integrity nor against independence.
Don't make me laugh mr Sejdiu, you would have us believe that black is white too! As for Kosovo being a special case - well that it is - a region of Serbia occupied by the fastest growing ALIEN population in Europe that thinks it's a nation. What a mess - it would be funny if it wasn't so sad!
I don't think a bucket of "Skenderbeu" would help anyone understand that first sentence...because, to state the obvious, it is a contradiction. I don't know about their other virtues, but public speaking is not a strong point for Thaci or Sejdiu.
Jan
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I'd have to agree with your assessment. Even if Kosovo was a unique case until now, it ceased to be so the minute Saakashvili decide to bomb a city. While having Russia for a neighbour is about as fortunate as living next to a sewage dump, with its hotheadedness, Georgia played into the hands of the Russians perfectly.
The argument that Kosova served as a precedent for South Ossetia, is inaccurate and pathetic to its best. SO and Abkhazia, have declared their inependence from Georgia since 1991 almost two decades before Kosova. Sure enough, Kosova got recognition, while these two provinces of Georgia haven't been recognized by a single country, even from Russia itself.
Russia is boiling over its "lack of respect from the west" and will annex these two provinces as the answer to the west refusing to recognize these two provinces.
Where does this action leave Serbs over Kosova?
Nowhere, furthermore makes the case for independence even stronger. Now even the merge of Kosova with Albania doesn't seem that far away as it was several days ago.
I can't comprehend how some Serbs writing here see this conflict as helping their quest for getting Kosova back!! In every way you see it, with its brutality, Russia sealed the independence of Kosova. It will continue to play its hypocritical game at the UN but with much less leverage, since it cannot justify its actions towards Georgia any longer. This aggresion showed once again the true face of Soviet Russia and added another dark spot on this country's history in addition to Poland division, Finland occupation, Baltic States, Hungary, Czecholovakia, Aghanistan, Chechnya etc.
And the last but not least;
Yes, Mr. President, you are right!
"He said that although the situation in South Ossetia would not slow down the process, there was a possibility that the conflict could lead to certain countries taking longer to consider their decision to recognize Kosovo."
Wow, it "would not slow down" just "taking longer to consider". Amazing logic.
To understand that sentence I need to drink more than just a half-liter of Skanderbeu. That's what is called in Russian: "Без пол-литра не понять".
Second attempt (first post went into the wrong article)...
From the article:
""Kosovo is a special case with its own historical, legal, political and constitutional qualities, and cannot be compared to the conflict in South Ossetia,” Sejdiu underlined."
Ahh - come on. Stop the hypocrasis please. It is the exact same thing:
Small region (Kosovo) wants independence, Bigger country (Serbia) use force to try to quel the upraising, even bigger war machine (NATO) bombs big country.
Small region (South Ossetia) wants independence, Bigger country (Georgia) use force to try to quel the upraising, even bigger war machine (Russia) bombs big country.
Small region (Krajina) wants independence, Bigger country (Croatia/Bosnia/Herzegovina) use force to try to quel the upraising, bigger ally (Serbia) is occupied elsewhere and fails to respond.
Looks like the K-Albanian bobblehead leadership is at it again. Have they mistakenly thought that there was a "tidal wave" of recognitions of Kosovo coming prior to the Georgia conflict? Have they not read media reports that are all comparing Georgia's separtist republics with Kosovo? Can they really be that delusional? Funny, but I don't hear the EU/UN/ or USA pushing for Kosovo soveirgnty anymore... Tells you something right? To all the Albanian posters out there, take heed, the USA, EU, NATO, UN did NOTHING to stop the Russians from doing to Georgia what NATO did to Serbia in 1999. What makes you think that you are as "special and unique" as Georgia whom the West wants into EU/NATO?
Looks like the K-Albanian bobblehead leadership is at it again. Have they mistakenly thought that there was a "tidal wave" of recognitions of Kosovo coming prior to the Georgia conflict? Have they not read media reports that are all comparing Georgia's separtist republics with Kosovo? Can they really be that delusional? Funny, but I don't hear the EU/UN/ or USA pushing for Kosovo soveirgnty anymore... Tells you something right? To all the Albanian posters out there, take heed, the USA, EU, NATO, UN did NOTHING to stop the Russians from doing to Georgia what NATO did to Serbia in 1999. What makes you think that you are as "special and unique" as Georgia whom the West wants into EU/NATO?
Second attempt (first post went into the wrong article)...
From the article:
""Kosovo is a special case with its own historical, legal, political and constitutional qualities, and cannot be compared to the conflict in South Ossetia,” Sejdiu underlined."
Ahh - come on. Stop the hypocrasis please. It is the exact same thing:
Small region (Kosovo) wants independence, Bigger country (Serbia) use force to try to quel the upraising, even bigger war machine (NATO) bombs big country.
Small region (South Ossetia) wants independence, Bigger country (Georgia) use force to try to quel the upraising, even bigger war machine (Russia) bombs big country.
Small region (Krajina) wants independence, Bigger country (Croatia/Bosnia/Herzegovina) use force to try to quel the upraising, bigger ally (Serbia) is occupied elsewhere and fails to respond.
"He said that although the situation in South Ossetia would not slow down the process, there was a possibility that the conflict could lead to certain countries taking longer to consider their decision to recognize Kosovo."
Wow, it "would not slow down" just "taking longer to consider". Amazing logic.
To understand that sentence I need to drink more than just a half-liter of Skanderbeu. That's what is called in Russian: "Без пол-литра не понять".
The argument that Kosova served as a precedent for South Ossetia, is inaccurate and pathetic to its best. SO and Abkhazia, have declared their inependence from Georgia since 1991 almost two decades before Kosova. Sure enough, Kosova got recognition, while these two provinces of Georgia haven't been recognized by a single country, even from Russia itself.
Russia is boiling over its "lack of respect from the west" and will annex these two provinces as the answer to the west refusing to recognize these two provinces.
Where does this action leave Serbs over Kosova?
Nowhere, furthermore makes the case for independence even stronger. Now even the merge of Kosova with Albania doesn't seem that far away as it was several days ago.
I can't comprehend how some Serbs writing here see this conflict as helping their quest for getting Kosova back!! In every way you see it, with its brutality, Russia sealed the independence of Kosova. It will continue to play its hypocritical game at the UN but with much less leverage, since it cannot justify its actions towards Georgia any longer. This aggresion showed once again the true face of Soviet Russia and added another dark spot on this country's history in addition to Poland division, Finland occupation, Baltic States, Hungary, Czecholovakia, Aghanistan, Chechnya etc.
And the last but not least;
Yes, Mr. President, you are right!
Don't make me laugh mr Sejdiu, you would have us believe that black is white too! As for Kosovo being a special case - well that it is - a region of Serbia occupied by the fastest growing ALIEN population in Europe that thinks it's a nation. What a mess - it would be funny if it wasn't so sad!
Mr. Fatmir Sejdiu please stop your continued nonsense claimed that kosovo is a unique / special case. Serbia had always believed the west had practiced double standard. they (west) are so vocal about respecting Georgia's territorial integrity but totally disrespect serbia's UN recognized borders which includes kosovo province.
As long as Russia,China and majority of UN countries supports Serbia. the so called kosovo state will remain a FAKE.
I don't think a bucket of "Skenderbeu" would help anyone understand that first sentence...because, to state the obvious, it is a contradiction. I don't know about their other virtues, but public speaking is not a strong point for Thaci or Sejdiu.
Jan
----
I'd have to agree with your assessment. Even if Kosovo was a unique case until now, it ceased to be so the minute Saakashvili decide to bomb a city. While having Russia for a neighbour is about as fortunate as living next to a sewage dump, with its hotheadedness, Georgia played into the hands of the Russians perfectly.
yes, yes, the EXYU-army was some kind of peacekeeping troop in Kosovo!!
sorry for this bad bad joke. but it is the same, what most of pro-Serbian posters are doing here. okay, I don't use hidden racism - but this has nothing to do with the fact, that I am not Serbian. I hate racism and regret those who use racism as arguments - and I wish, pro-Serbian poster will understand, that the bad image of Serbia is linked with them directly.
Kosovo has nothing to do with South Ossetia - inspite the fact, that it is a territory, where the majority of it's inhabitants are seeking independence from the state, in which is incorportated.
I wonder, how consequently the Serbian government follows the policy of Milosevic & Co. until year 2008. of course, the measures became civilised under massive pressure. the Russians claimed the same in South Ossetia now, including the abstruse right to bomb whatever they like outside the conflict zone - as the NATO did in Belgrade and Novi Sad. no one should say, that the world did not see and condemn that - this is a Serbian myth.
conclusion: if Kosovo is the same like South Ossetia, then it would be logical, that Russia must recognize Kosovo. if it is not the same, then it is neither a argument for or territorial integrity nor against independence.
Funny Mr Sejdiu, the whole world is saying that Georgian conflict is a direct result of Kosovo recognition but you know better.
Also, spare us the "unique" case rubbish. Either explain what is so unique about Kosovo or just stop saying it.
You have started something based on a lie and have managed to drag some of the countries into this but you cannot succeed. Either all the other separatists get a country or you will have to give up your dream of having a second Albania.
I wonder which one the world will choose.
The argument that Kosova served as a precedent for South Ossetia, is inaccurate and pathetic to its best. SO and Abkhazia, have declared their inependence from Georgia since 1991 almost two decades before Kosova. Sure enough, Kosova got recognition, while these two provinces of Georgia haven't been recognized by a single country, even from Russia itself.
Russia is boiling over its "lack of respect from the west" and will annex these two provinces as the answer to the west refusing to recognize these two provinces.
Where does this action leave Serbs over Kosova?
Nowhere, furthermore makes the case for independence even stronger. Now even the merge of Kosova with Albania doesn't seem that far away as it was several days ago.
I can't comprehend how some Serbs writing here see this conflict as helping their quest for getting Kosova back!! In every way you see it, with its brutality, Russia sealed the independence of Kosova. It will continue to play its hypocritical game at the UN but with much less leverage, since it cannot justify its actions towards Georgia any longer. This aggresion showed once again the true face of Soviet Russia and added another dark spot on this country's history in addition to Poland division, Finland occupation, Baltic States, Hungary, Czecholovakia, Aghanistan, Chechnya etc.
And the last but not least;
Yes, Mr. President, you are right!
Looks like the K-Albanian bobblehead leadership is at it again. Have they mistakenly thought that there was a "tidal wave" of recognitions of Kosovo coming prior to the Georgia conflict? Have they not read media reports that are all comparing Georgia's separtist republics with Kosovo? Can they really be that delusional? Funny, but I don't hear the EU/UN/ or USA pushing for Kosovo soveirgnty anymore... Tells you something right? To all the Albanian posters out there, take heed, the USA, EU, NATO, UN did NOTHING to stop the Russians from doing to Georgia what NATO did to Serbia in 1999. What makes you think that you are as "special and unique" as Georgia whom the West wants into EU/NATO?
Second attempt (first post went into the wrong article)...
From the article:
""Kosovo is a special case with its own historical, legal, political and constitutional qualities, and cannot be compared to the conflict in South Ossetia,” Sejdiu underlined."
Ahh - come on. Stop the hypocrasis please. It is the exact same thing:
Small region (Kosovo) wants independence, Bigger country (Serbia) use force to try to quel the upraising, even bigger war machine (NATO) bombs big country.
Small region (South Ossetia) wants independence, Bigger country (Georgia) use force to try to quel the upraising, even bigger war machine (Russia) bombs big country.
Small region (Krajina) wants independence, Bigger country (Croatia/Bosnia/Herzegovina) use force to try to quel the upraising, bigger ally (Serbia) is occupied elsewhere and fails to respond.
yes, yes, the EXYU-army was some kind of peacekeeping troop in Kosovo!!
sorry for this bad bad joke. but it is the same, what most of pro-Serbian posters are doing here. okay, I don't use hidden racism - but this has nothing to do with the fact, that I am not Serbian. I hate racism and regret those who use racism as arguments - and I wish, pro-Serbian poster will understand, that the bad image of Serbia is linked with them directly.
Kosovo has nothing to do with South Ossetia - inspite the fact, that it is a territory, where the majority of it's inhabitants are seeking independence from the state, in which is incorportated.
I wonder, how consequently the Serbian government follows the policy of Milosevic & Co. until year 2008. of course, the measures became civilised under massive pressure. the Russians claimed the same in South Ossetia now, including the abstruse right to bomb whatever they like outside the conflict zone - as the NATO did in Belgrade and Novi Sad. no one should say, that the world did not see and condemn that - this is a Serbian myth.
conclusion: if Kosovo is the same like South Ossetia, then it would be logical, that Russia must recognize Kosovo. if it is not the same, then it is neither a argument for or territorial integrity nor against independence.
"He said that although the situation in South Ossetia would not slow down the process, there was a possibility that the conflict could lead to certain countries taking longer to consider their decision to recognize Kosovo."
Wow, it "would not slow down" just "taking longer to consider". Amazing logic.
To understand that sentence I need to drink more than just a half-liter of Skanderbeu. That's what is called in Russian: "Без пол-литра не понять".
I don't think a bucket of "Skenderbeu" would help anyone understand that first sentence...because, to state the obvious, it is a contradiction. I don't know about their other virtues, but public speaking is not a strong point for Thaci or Sejdiu.
Jan
----
I'd have to agree with your assessment. Even if Kosovo was a unique case until now, it ceased to be so the minute Saakashvili decide to bomb a city. While having Russia for a neighbour is about as fortunate as living next to a sewage dump, with its hotheadedness, Georgia played into the hands of the Russians perfectly.
Don't make me laugh mr Sejdiu, you would have us believe that black is white too! As for Kosovo being a special case - well that it is - a region of Serbia occupied by the fastest growing ALIEN population in Europe that thinks it's a nation. What a mess - it would be funny if it wasn't so sad!
Funny Mr Sejdiu, the whole world is saying that Georgian conflict is a direct result of Kosovo recognition but you know better.
Also, spare us the "unique" case rubbish. Either explain what is so unique about Kosovo or just stop saying it.
You have started something based on a lie and have managed to drag some of the countries into this but you cannot succeed. Either all the other separatists get a country or you will have to give up your dream of having a second Albania.
I wonder which one the world will choose.
Mr. Fatmir Sejdiu please stop your continued nonsense claimed that kosovo is a unique / special case. Serbia had always believed the west had practiced double standard. they (west) are so vocal about respecting Georgia's territorial integrity but totally disrespect serbia's UN recognized borders which includes kosovo province.
As long as Russia,China and majority of UN countries supports Serbia. the so called kosovo state will remain a FAKE.
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