sp:
> I too support going to the ICJ for an opinion. Although I do not think the decision will be as cut and dry as most of the Serbian posters think.
Suggest you re-read the above comments. Only person who has 'predicted' the outcome is 'Ahmet Isufi' - a K-albanian 'poster'.
sp & ujku:
Your ideas on the irrelevance of a non-binding judgement are simplistic in the extreme.
An 'advisory opinion' derives its status and authority from the fact that it is the official pronouncement of the principal judicial organ of the United Nations.
This will have an immediate effect when it comes to any possible future recognitions for K-albanian 'pseudo-state'.
And may well have an effect on the decisions of some states that have already recognised.
Will either get a 'recognition-drought', or that 'phantom 3rd-wave' K'albanians have been dreaming about.
What else do you think countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar & Malta are waiting for?
No country likes to look like a fool on the world's stage - whether you like it or not.
I really doubt on this news! You are representing only what Jeremic said, what does not mean to be true, as any other statement he made against Kosova so far.
Do you have any officially confirmed statement by Singaporean authorities?
People, do not be surprised if Singapore recognizes us very soon!
Can somebody explain me what is the ICJ's mandate to do? Can it force countries to withdraw their recognition, to force Kosova's Parliament to withdraw the Independance, to force the God to return the world in the past and then to releise Seselj and KAradzic and finally to bring Milosevic from deaths and all of them back to Kosova together with Arkan and his paramilitaries? Is this what Jeremic is expecting from the ICJ to decide?
I too support going to the ICJ for an opinion. Although I do not think the decision will be as cut and dry as most of the Serbian posters think. Also the decision which is nonbinding will change nothing once it is given in 3-5 years.
If ruled against Kosovo the countries that have recognized will have already established enough relations to not turn back. If ruled agains Serbia the claim will be made that the court was corrupt (as already alluded to by many posters as a possible out) and Serbia will say they reject the decision.
and realistically seen, that is of course a good info, since Malaysia and Singapore are not some little islands in the pacific ocean, like those who did "recognize" the crippled puppet-entity under US-pressure...
After the Georgia debacle it would be very difficult for anyone of Mr Saakashvili's friends to work against the move. It is evident that peaceloving rulers should be rewarded for their peacful ways of fighting for their rights. Anything else would imply that force rules alone, and that promises a bad world - a return to 1914.
Further, Georgia is currently persuing their own case to the ICJ, and sewing Russia. This is excellent news, and a gift to Serbia. How can Gerogia's friends now put pressure on Serbia to withdraw the initiative, when their own little friend has to do the same?
And of course, Russia will bring Georgia in for the ICJ as well, remember the annihilation of Tshkinvali. Perhaps more leaders should start to see the point in peaceful means of conflict resolution?
By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
(Ahmet Isufi,)
No, we don’t know! They must be Albanians from Kosovo :)), are you trying to suggest us that Ahmet, or you are trying to suggest that judges are going to be bribed by the Albanians as they usually do. That is the best diplomatic tool that Albanians know-how to use.
As for Singapore decision to back up Serbia, I can only say thank you Singapore, thank you Mr Jeremic for being so active, skilled and energetic.
Ahmet Isufi:
> Mr. Jeremic you don't have to ask Singapore to support your initiative to take the matter with ICJ, because I support your intiative...
Although am sure your opinion would 'carry the day', no harm in Mr Jeremic continuing with his good work - isn't good policy to sit back & let others do all the 'hard yards' as K-albanian representatives seem to be doing - things might just 'backfire'.
> but you will be disipointed on the final VERDICT from ICJ. Once the verdict is rendered in favour of Kosova, than WHAT?
You appear to have the ICJ mixed up with albanian court system, or perhaps it is just the K-albanian mindset in general when it comes to corruption of public offices.
And the question you should be asking is what does Serbia have to lose by pursuing a legal avenue? Admission to the EU? Hardly - ICJ petition will be all 'done & dusted' long before that happens.
Nothing to lose mate.
Or perhaps you would prefer that Serbia would opt for the 'Georgian solution' instead.
> By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
Do you? Here's a list:
Thomas Buergenthal US
Rosalyn Higgins UK
Bruno Simma Germany
Ronny Abraham France
Hisashi Owada Japan
Abdul Koroma Sierra Leone
Awn Marie Ghanime Jordan
Kenneth Keith New Zealand
Mohamed Bennouna Morocco
Raymond Ranjeva Madagascar
Bernardo Sepúlveda Amor Mexico
Gonzalo Parra Aranguren Venezuela
Peter Tomka Slovakia
Shi Jiuyong China
Leonid Skotnikov Russia
Am sure that they will take their duties a lot more seriously than you appear to think they will do.
Mr. Jeremic you don't have to ask Singapore to support your initiative to take the matter with ICJ, because I support your intiative but you will be disipointed on the final VERDICT from ICJ. Once the verdict is rendered in favour of Kosova, than WHAT?
By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
Singapore is not an Islamic country. In fact, the highest percentage are Buddhists.
AS for the rest of the ''Kosovo is moving on, its independent, you're wasting your time etc.'', you've been repeting it so many times it looks like you're trying to convinve yourslef more than anyone else.
International Court will decide. And Serbia is gaining votes while Albanians keep reassuring themselves everything will be alright.
I can say with pleasure that nothing will ever change Mr. Jeremicu. The Republic of Kosovo has the powers on its side and we are moving on. One question, does this mean that the Islamic countries are pro SERBIA and that Serbia will join an Islamic organization???
Singapore is not an Islamic country. In fact, the highest percentage are Buddhists.
AS for the rest of the ''Kosovo is moving on, its independent, you're wasting your time etc.'', you've been repeting it so many times it looks like you're trying to convinve yourslef more than anyone else.
International Court will decide. And Serbia is gaining votes while Albanians keep reassuring themselves everything will be alright.
Ahmet Isufi:
> Mr. Jeremic you don't have to ask Singapore to support your initiative to take the matter with ICJ, because I support your intiative...
Although am sure your opinion would 'carry the day', no harm in Mr Jeremic continuing with his good work - isn't good policy to sit back & let others do all the 'hard yards' as K-albanian representatives seem to be doing - things might just 'backfire'.
> but you will be disipointed on the final VERDICT from ICJ. Once the verdict is rendered in favour of Kosova, than WHAT?
You appear to have the ICJ mixed up with albanian court system, or perhaps it is just the K-albanian mindset in general when it comes to corruption of public offices.
And the question you should be asking is what does Serbia have to lose by pursuing a legal avenue? Admission to the EU? Hardly - ICJ petition will be all 'done & dusted' long before that happens.
Nothing to lose mate.
Or perhaps you would prefer that Serbia would opt for the 'Georgian solution' instead.
> By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
Do you? Here's a list:
Thomas Buergenthal US
Rosalyn Higgins UK
Bruno Simma Germany
Ronny Abraham France
Hisashi Owada Japan
Abdul Koroma Sierra Leone
Awn Marie Ghanime Jordan
Kenneth Keith New Zealand
Mohamed Bennouna Morocco
Raymond Ranjeva Madagascar
Bernardo Sepúlveda Amor Mexico
Gonzalo Parra Aranguren Venezuela
Peter Tomka Slovakia
Shi Jiuyong China
Leonid Skotnikov Russia
Am sure that they will take their duties a lot more seriously than you appear to think they will do.
By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
(Ahmet Isufi,)
No, we don’t know! They must be Albanians from Kosovo :)), are you trying to suggest us that Ahmet, or you are trying to suggest that judges are going to be bribed by the Albanians as they usually do. That is the best diplomatic tool that Albanians know-how to use.
As for Singapore decision to back up Serbia, I can only say thank you Singapore, thank you Mr Jeremic for being so active, skilled and energetic.
and realistically seen, that is of course a good info, since Malaysia and Singapore are not some little islands in the pacific ocean, like those who did "recognize" the crippled puppet-entity under US-pressure...
After the Georgia debacle it would be very difficult for anyone of Mr Saakashvili's friends to work against the move. It is evident that peaceloving rulers should be rewarded for their peacful ways of fighting for their rights. Anything else would imply that force rules alone, and that promises a bad world - a return to 1914.
Further, Georgia is currently persuing their own case to the ICJ, and sewing Russia. This is excellent news, and a gift to Serbia. How can Gerogia's friends now put pressure on Serbia to withdraw the initiative, when their own little friend has to do the same?
And of course, Russia will bring Georgia in for the ICJ as well, remember the annihilation of Tshkinvali. Perhaps more leaders should start to see the point in peaceful means of conflict resolution?
I can say with pleasure that nothing will ever change Mr. Jeremicu. The Republic of Kosovo has the powers on its side and we are moving on. One question, does this mean that the Islamic countries are pro SERBIA and that Serbia will join an Islamic organization???
Mr. Jeremic you don't have to ask Singapore to support your initiative to take the matter with ICJ, because I support your intiative but you will be disipointed on the final VERDICT from ICJ. Once the verdict is rendered in favour of Kosova, than WHAT?
By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
sp:
> I too support going to the ICJ for an opinion. Although I do not think the decision will be as cut and dry as most of the Serbian posters think.
Suggest you re-read the above comments. Only person who has 'predicted' the outcome is 'Ahmet Isufi' - a K-albanian 'poster'.
sp & ujku:
Your ideas on the irrelevance of a non-binding judgement are simplistic in the extreme.
An 'advisory opinion' derives its status and authority from the fact that it is the official pronouncement of the principal judicial organ of the United Nations.
This will have an immediate effect when it comes to any possible future recognitions for K-albanian 'pseudo-state'.
And may well have an effect on the decisions of some states that have already recognised.
Will either get a 'recognition-drought', or that 'phantom 3rd-wave' K'albanians have been dreaming about.
What else do you think countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar & Malta are waiting for?
No country likes to look like a fool on the world's stage - whether you like it or not.
I too support going to the ICJ for an opinion. Although I do not think the decision will be as cut and dry as most of the Serbian posters think. Also the decision which is nonbinding will change nothing once it is given in 3-5 years.
If ruled against Kosovo the countries that have recognized will have already established enough relations to not turn back. If ruled agains Serbia the claim will be made that the court was corrupt (as already alluded to by many posters as a possible out) and Serbia will say they reject the decision.
Can somebody explain me what is the ICJ's mandate to do? Can it force countries to withdraw their recognition, to force Kosova's Parliament to withdraw the Independance, to force the God to return the world in the past and then to releise Seselj and KAradzic and finally to bring Milosevic from deaths and all of them back to Kosova together with Arkan and his paramilitaries? Is this what Jeremic is expecting from the ICJ to decide?
I really doubt on this news! You are representing only what Jeremic said, what does not mean to be true, as any other statement he made against Kosova so far.
Do you have any officially confirmed statement by Singaporean authorities?
People, do not be surprised if Singapore recognizes us very soon!
I can say with pleasure that nothing will ever change Mr. Jeremicu. The Republic of Kosovo has the powers on its side and we are moving on. One question, does this mean that the Islamic countries are pro SERBIA and that Serbia will join an Islamic organization???
Mr. Jeremic you don't have to ask Singapore to support your initiative to take the matter with ICJ, because I support your intiative but you will be disipointed on the final VERDICT from ICJ. Once the verdict is rendered in favour of Kosova, than WHAT?
By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
Singapore is not an Islamic country. In fact, the highest percentage are Buddhists.
AS for the rest of the ''Kosovo is moving on, its independent, you're wasting your time etc.'', you've been repeting it so many times it looks like you're trying to convinve yourslef more than anyone else.
International Court will decide. And Serbia is gaining votes while Albanians keep reassuring themselves everything will be alright.
Ahmet Isufi:
> Mr. Jeremic you don't have to ask Singapore to support your initiative to take the matter with ICJ, because I support your intiative...
Although am sure your opinion would 'carry the day', no harm in Mr Jeremic continuing with his good work - isn't good policy to sit back & let others do all the 'hard yards' as K-albanian representatives seem to be doing - things might just 'backfire'.
> but you will be disipointed on the final VERDICT from ICJ. Once the verdict is rendered in favour of Kosova, than WHAT?
You appear to have the ICJ mixed up with albanian court system, or perhaps it is just the K-albanian mindset in general when it comes to corruption of public offices.
And the question you should be asking is what does Serbia have to lose by pursuing a legal avenue? Admission to the EU? Hardly - ICJ petition will be all 'done & dusted' long before that happens.
Nothing to lose mate.
Or perhaps you would prefer that Serbia would opt for the 'Georgian solution' instead.
> By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
Do you? Here's a list:
Thomas Buergenthal US
Rosalyn Higgins UK
Bruno Simma Germany
Ronny Abraham France
Hisashi Owada Japan
Abdul Koroma Sierra Leone
Awn Marie Ghanime Jordan
Kenneth Keith New Zealand
Mohamed Bennouna Morocco
Raymond Ranjeva Madagascar
Bernardo Sepúlveda Amor Mexico
Gonzalo Parra Aranguren Venezuela
Peter Tomka Slovakia
Shi Jiuyong China
Leonid Skotnikov Russia
Am sure that they will take their duties a lot more seriously than you appear to think they will do.
By the way do you know who the judges are in ICJ?
(Ahmet Isufi,)
No, we don’t know! They must be Albanians from Kosovo :)), are you trying to suggest us that Ahmet, or you are trying to suggest that judges are going to be bribed by the Albanians as they usually do. That is the best diplomatic tool that Albanians know-how to use.
As for Singapore decision to back up Serbia, I can only say thank you Singapore, thank you Mr Jeremic for being so active, skilled and energetic.
After the Georgia debacle it would be very difficult for anyone of Mr Saakashvili's friends to work against the move. It is evident that peaceloving rulers should be rewarded for their peacful ways of fighting for their rights. Anything else would imply that force rules alone, and that promises a bad world - a return to 1914.
Further, Georgia is currently persuing their own case to the ICJ, and sewing Russia. This is excellent news, and a gift to Serbia. How can Gerogia's friends now put pressure on Serbia to withdraw the initiative, when their own little friend has to do the same?
And of course, Russia will bring Georgia in for the ICJ as well, remember the annihilation of Tshkinvali. Perhaps more leaders should start to see the point in peaceful means of conflict resolution?
and realistically seen, that is of course a good info, since Malaysia and Singapore are not some little islands in the pacific ocean, like those who did "recognize" the crippled puppet-entity under US-pressure...
I too support going to the ICJ for an opinion. Although I do not think the decision will be as cut and dry as most of the Serbian posters think. Also the decision which is nonbinding will change nothing once it is given in 3-5 years.
If ruled against Kosovo the countries that have recognized will have already established enough relations to not turn back. If ruled agains Serbia the claim will be made that the court was corrupt (as already alluded to by many posters as a possible out) and Serbia will say they reject the decision.
Can somebody explain me what is the ICJ's mandate to do? Can it force countries to withdraw their recognition, to force Kosova's Parliament to withdraw the Independance, to force the God to return the world in the past and then to releise Seselj and KAradzic and finally to bring Milosevic from deaths and all of them back to Kosova together with Arkan and his paramilitaries? Is this what Jeremic is expecting from the ICJ to decide?
sp:
> I too support going to the ICJ for an opinion. Although I do not think the decision will be as cut and dry as most of the Serbian posters think.
Suggest you re-read the above comments. Only person who has 'predicted' the outcome is 'Ahmet Isufi' - a K-albanian 'poster'.
sp & ujku:
Your ideas on the irrelevance of a non-binding judgement are simplistic in the extreme.
An 'advisory opinion' derives its status and authority from the fact that it is the official pronouncement of the principal judicial organ of the United Nations.
This will have an immediate effect when it comes to any possible future recognitions for K-albanian 'pseudo-state'.
And may well have an effect on the decisions of some states that have already recognised.
Will either get a 'recognition-drought', or that 'phantom 3rd-wave' K'albanians have been dreaming about.
What else do you think countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar & Malta are waiting for?
No country likes to look like a fool on the world's stage - whether you like it or not.
I really doubt on this news! You are representing only what Jeremic said, what does not mean to be true, as any other statement he made against Kosova so far.
Do you have any officially confirmed statement by Singaporean authorities?
People, do not be surprised if Singapore recognizes us very soon!
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