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Monday, 28.07.2008.

14:40

Russia wants EULEX as “part of UNMIK”

Russia would cooperate with EULEX in Kosovo only provided it is a part of the United Nations (UN) mission UNMIK.

Izvor: Norman Cigar

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peter, sydney

pre 15 godina

If russian diplomatic action was truly irrelevant, then why all the comments? Certainly seems to matter to some.

PRN:
Grow up.

Dashnori i Ceces:
> Oil prices are going down Russia, and so is your population. Trying to compete with USA has bankrupted you a few times.

Would be far more concerned with economies elsewhere if I were you.

Oil prices have dropped due to the implosion in the US relieving supply pressures, but respite will only be brief.

Northern winter will be especially interesting this year.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 15 godina

I have never seen so much flip-flopping only on this web page from Serb camp.
Ever since UNMIK came to Kosova ,Serb poster s were saying that UNMIK is an illegal foreighn power ocupying Kosova. Before February 17 2008 , they said same about declaration of Indepndence that will never happend, but it did. Afterwards they said UNMIK is the only legal power in Kosova. When EULEX came in the picture they said this will never happened, but it is happening allready and according to coments on this article everybody seems to agree that ; there is nothing they can do to stopped.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Of course Serbia and Russia will accept EULEX, the EULEX they can control.

Albanian posters here are kidding themselves if they think that they will have any say in how EULEX works.

This will be left up to the UN where Russia will be a vigelant participant.

Toni

pre 15 godina

You know russia is doing a very good job when it comes to keeping sebrian hopes that something is going to happen in Kosova in their benefit. I think without russia at this time we would have a very deep crisis in serbia, because no body wouldn't be out there to at list lie serbs that they are in the right side of the story. But what is very interesting is that serbs doesn't see the real true which is that russia is only talking and when you come to Kosova you don't see anything happening what russia is saying, but when EU and USA say something things happen on the ground so fast that even russia is to late when they declare against it. So russia keep doing a great job in keeping serbs calm until we in Kosova get to implement every bit of every plan which will consolidate Kosovo as a country of the best democratic and economical values.

Miles

pre 15 godina

I think Peter is spot-on. This is a cunning move by Serbia and Russia. Jeremic has said that Serbia would accept the EU taking on a role in Kosovo; that in essence, Serbia is not against the EULEX mission, provided Serbia gives it the okay (exerting sovereignty over its territory per Resolution 1244), and it is approved by the UN Security Council. In short, Serbia will provide the EU the requisite legal basis, for which it’s been looking for so desprately, for deploying into Kosovo.
The EU's dilemma for the past several months has been/ and still is how to find the legal basis to deploy EULEX into Kosovo, in light of 1244, which confirms Serbia’s sovereigny over Kosovo. Hence, the EU’s constant delay in deploying EULEX. Niether the UN nor, arguably, the EU, as an entity, recognize Kosovo’s indpendence. That's why Pristina cannot just invite EULEX in to have them do as they please. But, Serbia can (ask yourselves why).
The best the US has come up with is to pervert the reading of 1244 and then only to exert pressure on Ban to reconfigure UNMIK unilaterally. The thing is: they realize that legally that does not get them to where they want to go either, not completely, and not with many of the EU members (even some of those who have recognized Kosovo’s declaration of independence). The chosen road ahead will be a “messy” one for EULEX because, among other things, the Serbs in Kosovo will not recognize EULEX, and UNMIK cannot just make itself disappear, regardless of how reduced its role. The EU knows this and is rightfully concerned. The US appears to have a much more aggressive policy, and wants things pushed through, regardless. The Serbia/ Russia proposal is designed to drive a wedge between some EU states (not Germany and UK) and the US.
Serbia is giving the EU a lifeline, if you will, basically giving it (the EU) the legal authority to deploy and work in Kosovo. The move will be attractive to those states who wish to avoid the “messy” option. However, accepting Serbia’s offer would confirm further that Serbia still has soverignty over Kosovo. In addition, I believe the move is designed to drive a wedge between the UN/Ban and the US policy re EULEX. The UN, which professes to be “status neutral” on Kosovo, would look like a stooge/fraud (if it does not look like that already), were it to refuse Serbia’s and Russia’s plan, a clean option as opposed to the messy option. Practically, it has no reason not to accept Serbia’s/ Russia’s offer. In any case, Russia now is doing its part to put diplomatic pressure on the UN to support the move and make it difficult for Ban/ EULEX to pursue its current course (the US course), which may lead to conflict (not necessarily (and hopefully not) armed), when an easier option for it is now available. Let’s see what happens. The US policy has been to ignore and continue pushing its policy (of a new reality on the ground) until they can declare it is a fait acompli. Of course, the US (the EU, or the UN) does not like to admit that the “new reality on the ground” is partition of Serbia at the River Ibar. The chess match continues.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

great. I agree with Peter from Australia, that´s really a smart move, indeed.

and what´s definitely the best here:
the commenting Albanians just don´t wanna see what is unfolding in front of their eyes...

tatiana stojkovic

pre 15 godina

russia is working on principle. Replacing the defunct UNMIK's EU pillar IV under Paul Acda with EUlex is the only way for it to be legal under 1244. no question about this right PRN?

PRN

pre 15 godina

Gradually, BUT surely EULEX is becoming a force to recon with.

At first was fiercly opposed now acceptable in one way...the question is what will happen in October...(when UNMIK is leaving)...

AHTISARI PLAN IS GRADUALLY BEING IMPLEMENTED

Accepting EULEX in Kosovo is a MUST and Russia had NO OPTION but to accept...

Olf

pre 15 godina

Slowly but surely EULEX is taking competences. Now, Russia says that EULEX can be part of UNMIK but, what after UNMIK leaves?
PRN, Russia will not accept it but it will not stop it too. They know that EULEX is here for K-Serbs mostly not for K-Albanians.

peter, sydney

pre 15 godina

Smart move on Russia's part.

Clique in 'brussel's seems to be determined to replace UNMIK with EULEX regardless of the legalities.

And 'Ban' (citing 'realities on the ground') has caved in to the pressure coming from 'brussel's & given the deployment his sanction without seeking the approval of the UN Security Council - knowing full well that Russia would veto any such move.

Small wonder given that the soon to be ex-'UN Secretary General' was sponsored by the US & also comes from a society that values conformity over confrontation.

Now russians have given him an 'out' whereby he can 'legitimise his recommendation' for the reconfiguration of UNMIK providing that:

(a) EULEX becomes a part of UNMIK, rather than replacing it, &
(b) he gets approval from 'Belgrade' for the reconfiguration.

By having to go through UNMIK, 'brussel's will not have 'carte-blanche' to do as they will in Kosovo but will be limited by UNMIK's mandate under UN SC resolution 1244.

And by giving the serbs a say in the deployment - would guess specifically to do with the areas they control, the reconfiguration then has consensus support, rather than just the support of one side which is only a recipe for future conflict.

So by stipulating that they would not block such a reconfiguration in the SC, the russians have put the 'spot-light' firmly back on 'brussel's & 'Ban'.

Does 'brussel's truly want to resolve this situation?

And is 'Ban' working for the UN or the US?

Ahmet Isufi

pre 15 godina

Serb Alley,
The truth of the matter is that Russia got slapped in the face so many times in UNSC session concerning Kosovo, that I allready lost count of it.

Dashnori i Ceces

pre 15 godina

Russia this Russia that. Who cares? Don't you have another private company to take over over after BP? Oil prices are going down Russia, and so is your population. Trying to compete with USA has bankrupted you a few times.

sp

pre 15 godina

It is only a "slap" on the face if anyone was taking it seriously, which obviously no one is.
The whole west is saying "I see his lips move but nothing is coming out"

Serb Allay

pre 15 godina

"The European structures - EULEX, EU Special Representative Pieter Feith, and the International Steering Group for Kosovo are not legal, Titov said, pointing out that "in taking a one-sided approach, they are not working for stability in the region but for the reinforcement of the conflict potential".

That is a clear "slap" on the face of Pieter Feith & EULEX who are obviously biased and conspire with the separatists in pristina.

PRN

pre 15 godina

Gradually, BUT surely EULEX is becoming a force to recon with.

At first was fiercly opposed now acceptable in one way...the question is what will happen in October...(when UNMIK is leaving)...

AHTISARI PLAN IS GRADUALLY BEING IMPLEMENTED

Accepting EULEX in Kosovo is a MUST and Russia had NO OPTION but to accept...

Serb Allay

pre 15 godina

"The European structures - EULEX, EU Special Representative Pieter Feith, and the International Steering Group for Kosovo are not legal, Titov said, pointing out that "in taking a one-sided approach, they are not working for stability in the region but for the reinforcement of the conflict potential".

That is a clear "slap" on the face of Pieter Feith & EULEX who are obviously biased and conspire with the separatists in pristina.

peter, sydney

pre 15 godina

Smart move on Russia's part.

Clique in 'brussel's seems to be determined to replace UNMIK with EULEX regardless of the legalities.

And 'Ban' (citing 'realities on the ground') has caved in to the pressure coming from 'brussel's & given the deployment his sanction without seeking the approval of the UN Security Council - knowing full well that Russia would veto any such move.

Small wonder given that the soon to be ex-'UN Secretary General' was sponsored by the US & also comes from a society that values conformity over confrontation.

Now russians have given him an 'out' whereby he can 'legitimise his recommendation' for the reconfiguration of UNMIK providing that:

(a) EULEX becomes a part of UNMIK, rather than replacing it, &
(b) he gets approval from 'Belgrade' for the reconfiguration.

By having to go through UNMIK, 'brussel's will not have 'carte-blanche' to do as they will in Kosovo but will be limited by UNMIK's mandate under UN SC resolution 1244.

And by giving the serbs a say in the deployment - would guess specifically to do with the areas they control, the reconfiguration then has consensus support, rather than just the support of one side which is only a recipe for future conflict.

So by stipulating that they would not block such a reconfiguration in the SC, the russians have put the 'spot-light' firmly back on 'brussel's & 'Ban'.

Does 'brussel's truly want to resolve this situation?

And is 'Ban' working for the UN or the US?

Dashnori i Ceces

pre 15 godina

Russia this Russia that. Who cares? Don't you have another private company to take over over after BP? Oil prices are going down Russia, and so is your population. Trying to compete with USA has bankrupted you a few times.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

great. I agree with Peter from Australia, that´s really a smart move, indeed.

and what´s definitely the best here:
the commenting Albanians just don´t wanna see what is unfolding in front of their eyes...

Ahmet Isufi

pre 15 godina

Serb Alley,
The truth of the matter is that Russia got slapped in the face so many times in UNSC session concerning Kosovo, that I allready lost count of it.

tatiana stojkovic

pre 15 godina

russia is working on principle. Replacing the defunct UNMIK's EU pillar IV under Paul Acda with EUlex is the only way for it to be legal under 1244. no question about this right PRN?

Miles

pre 15 godina

I think Peter is spot-on. This is a cunning move by Serbia and Russia. Jeremic has said that Serbia would accept the EU taking on a role in Kosovo; that in essence, Serbia is not against the EULEX mission, provided Serbia gives it the okay (exerting sovereignty over its territory per Resolution 1244), and it is approved by the UN Security Council. In short, Serbia will provide the EU the requisite legal basis, for which it’s been looking for so desprately, for deploying into Kosovo.
The EU's dilemma for the past several months has been/ and still is how to find the legal basis to deploy EULEX into Kosovo, in light of 1244, which confirms Serbia’s sovereigny over Kosovo. Hence, the EU’s constant delay in deploying EULEX. Niether the UN nor, arguably, the EU, as an entity, recognize Kosovo’s indpendence. That's why Pristina cannot just invite EULEX in to have them do as they please. But, Serbia can (ask yourselves why).
The best the US has come up with is to pervert the reading of 1244 and then only to exert pressure on Ban to reconfigure UNMIK unilaterally. The thing is: they realize that legally that does not get them to where they want to go either, not completely, and not with many of the EU members (even some of those who have recognized Kosovo’s declaration of independence). The chosen road ahead will be a “messy” one for EULEX because, among other things, the Serbs in Kosovo will not recognize EULEX, and UNMIK cannot just make itself disappear, regardless of how reduced its role. The EU knows this and is rightfully concerned. The US appears to have a much more aggressive policy, and wants things pushed through, regardless. The Serbia/ Russia proposal is designed to drive a wedge between some EU states (not Germany and UK) and the US.
Serbia is giving the EU a lifeline, if you will, basically giving it (the EU) the legal authority to deploy and work in Kosovo. The move will be attractive to those states who wish to avoid the “messy” option. However, accepting Serbia’s offer would confirm further that Serbia still has soverignty over Kosovo. In addition, I believe the move is designed to drive a wedge between the UN/Ban and the US policy re EULEX. The UN, which professes to be “status neutral” on Kosovo, would look like a stooge/fraud (if it does not look like that already), were it to refuse Serbia’s and Russia’s plan, a clean option as opposed to the messy option. Practically, it has no reason not to accept Serbia’s/ Russia’s offer. In any case, Russia now is doing its part to put diplomatic pressure on the UN to support the move and make it difficult for Ban/ EULEX to pursue its current course (the US course), which may lead to conflict (not necessarily (and hopefully not) armed), when an easier option for it is now available. Let’s see what happens. The US policy has been to ignore and continue pushing its policy (of a new reality on the ground) until they can declare it is a fait acompli. Of course, the US (the EU, or the UN) does not like to admit that the “new reality on the ground” is partition of Serbia at the River Ibar. The chess match continues.

peter, sydney

pre 15 godina

If russian diplomatic action was truly irrelevant, then why all the comments? Certainly seems to matter to some.

PRN:
Grow up.

Dashnori i Ceces:
> Oil prices are going down Russia, and so is your population. Trying to compete with USA has bankrupted you a few times.

Would be far more concerned with economies elsewhere if I were you.

Oil prices have dropped due to the implosion in the US relieving supply pressures, but respite will only be brief.

Northern winter will be especially interesting this year.

sp

pre 15 godina

It is only a "slap" on the face if anyone was taking it seriously, which obviously no one is.
The whole west is saying "I see his lips move but nothing is coming out"

Olf

pre 15 godina

Slowly but surely EULEX is taking competences. Now, Russia says that EULEX can be part of UNMIK but, what after UNMIK leaves?
PRN, Russia will not accept it but it will not stop it too. They know that EULEX is here for K-Serbs mostly not for K-Albanians.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Of course Serbia and Russia will accept EULEX, the EULEX they can control.

Albanian posters here are kidding themselves if they think that they will have any say in how EULEX works.

This will be left up to the UN where Russia will be a vigelant participant.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 15 godina

I have never seen so much flip-flopping only on this web page from Serb camp.
Ever since UNMIK came to Kosova ,Serb poster s were saying that UNMIK is an illegal foreighn power ocupying Kosova. Before February 17 2008 , they said same about declaration of Indepndence that will never happend, but it did. Afterwards they said UNMIK is the only legal power in Kosova. When EULEX came in the picture they said this will never happened, but it is happening allready and according to coments on this article everybody seems to agree that ; there is nothing they can do to stopped.

Toni

pre 15 godina

You know russia is doing a very good job when it comes to keeping sebrian hopes that something is going to happen in Kosova in their benefit. I think without russia at this time we would have a very deep crisis in serbia, because no body wouldn't be out there to at list lie serbs that they are in the right side of the story. But what is very interesting is that serbs doesn't see the real true which is that russia is only talking and when you come to Kosova you don't see anything happening what russia is saying, but when EU and USA say something things happen on the ground so fast that even russia is to late when they declare against it. So russia keep doing a great job in keeping serbs calm until we in Kosova get to implement every bit of every plan which will consolidate Kosovo as a country of the best democratic and economical values.

Dashnori i Ceces

pre 15 godina

Russia this Russia that. Who cares? Don't you have another private company to take over over after BP? Oil prices are going down Russia, and so is your population. Trying to compete with USA has bankrupted you a few times.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 15 godina

Serb Alley,
The truth of the matter is that Russia got slapped in the face so many times in UNSC session concerning Kosovo, that I allready lost count of it.

sp

pre 15 godina

It is only a "slap" on the face if anyone was taking it seriously, which obviously no one is.
The whole west is saying "I see his lips move but nothing is coming out"

PRN

pre 15 godina

Gradually, BUT surely EULEX is becoming a force to recon with.

At first was fiercly opposed now acceptable in one way...the question is what will happen in October...(when UNMIK is leaving)...

AHTISARI PLAN IS GRADUALLY BEING IMPLEMENTED

Accepting EULEX in Kosovo is a MUST and Russia had NO OPTION but to accept...

Olf

pre 15 godina

Slowly but surely EULEX is taking competences. Now, Russia says that EULEX can be part of UNMIK but, what after UNMIK leaves?
PRN, Russia will not accept it but it will not stop it too. They know that EULEX is here for K-Serbs mostly not for K-Albanians.

Serb Allay

pre 15 godina

"The European structures - EULEX, EU Special Representative Pieter Feith, and the International Steering Group for Kosovo are not legal, Titov said, pointing out that "in taking a one-sided approach, they are not working for stability in the region but for the reinforcement of the conflict potential".

That is a clear "slap" on the face of Pieter Feith & EULEX who are obviously biased and conspire with the separatists in pristina.

tatiana stojkovic

pre 15 godina

russia is working on principle. Replacing the defunct UNMIK's EU pillar IV under Paul Acda with EUlex is the only way for it to be legal under 1244. no question about this right PRN?

Miles

pre 15 godina

I think Peter is spot-on. This is a cunning move by Serbia and Russia. Jeremic has said that Serbia would accept the EU taking on a role in Kosovo; that in essence, Serbia is not against the EULEX mission, provided Serbia gives it the okay (exerting sovereignty over its territory per Resolution 1244), and it is approved by the UN Security Council. In short, Serbia will provide the EU the requisite legal basis, for which it’s been looking for so desprately, for deploying into Kosovo.
The EU's dilemma for the past several months has been/ and still is how to find the legal basis to deploy EULEX into Kosovo, in light of 1244, which confirms Serbia’s sovereigny over Kosovo. Hence, the EU’s constant delay in deploying EULEX. Niether the UN nor, arguably, the EU, as an entity, recognize Kosovo’s indpendence. That's why Pristina cannot just invite EULEX in to have them do as they please. But, Serbia can (ask yourselves why).
The best the US has come up with is to pervert the reading of 1244 and then only to exert pressure on Ban to reconfigure UNMIK unilaterally. The thing is: they realize that legally that does not get them to where they want to go either, not completely, and not with many of the EU members (even some of those who have recognized Kosovo’s declaration of independence). The chosen road ahead will be a “messy” one for EULEX because, among other things, the Serbs in Kosovo will not recognize EULEX, and UNMIK cannot just make itself disappear, regardless of how reduced its role. The EU knows this and is rightfully concerned. The US appears to have a much more aggressive policy, and wants things pushed through, regardless. The Serbia/ Russia proposal is designed to drive a wedge between some EU states (not Germany and UK) and the US.
Serbia is giving the EU a lifeline, if you will, basically giving it (the EU) the legal authority to deploy and work in Kosovo. The move will be attractive to those states who wish to avoid the “messy” option. However, accepting Serbia’s offer would confirm further that Serbia still has soverignty over Kosovo. In addition, I believe the move is designed to drive a wedge between the UN/Ban and the US policy re EULEX. The UN, which professes to be “status neutral” on Kosovo, would look like a stooge/fraud (if it does not look like that already), were it to refuse Serbia’s and Russia’s plan, a clean option as opposed to the messy option. Practically, it has no reason not to accept Serbia’s/ Russia’s offer. In any case, Russia now is doing its part to put diplomatic pressure on the UN to support the move and make it difficult for Ban/ EULEX to pursue its current course (the US course), which may lead to conflict (not necessarily (and hopefully not) armed), when an easier option for it is now available. Let’s see what happens. The US policy has been to ignore and continue pushing its policy (of a new reality on the ground) until they can declare it is a fait acompli. Of course, the US (the EU, or the UN) does not like to admit that the “new reality on the ground” is partition of Serbia at the River Ibar. The chess match continues.

peter, sydney

pre 15 godina

Smart move on Russia's part.

Clique in 'brussel's seems to be determined to replace UNMIK with EULEX regardless of the legalities.

And 'Ban' (citing 'realities on the ground') has caved in to the pressure coming from 'brussel's & given the deployment his sanction without seeking the approval of the UN Security Council - knowing full well that Russia would veto any such move.

Small wonder given that the soon to be ex-'UN Secretary General' was sponsored by the US & also comes from a society that values conformity over confrontation.

Now russians have given him an 'out' whereby he can 'legitimise his recommendation' for the reconfiguration of UNMIK providing that:

(a) EULEX becomes a part of UNMIK, rather than replacing it, &
(b) he gets approval from 'Belgrade' for the reconfiguration.

By having to go through UNMIK, 'brussel's will not have 'carte-blanche' to do as they will in Kosovo but will be limited by UNMIK's mandate under UN SC resolution 1244.

And by giving the serbs a say in the deployment - would guess specifically to do with the areas they control, the reconfiguration then has consensus support, rather than just the support of one side which is only a recipe for future conflict.

So by stipulating that they would not block such a reconfiguration in the SC, the russians have put the 'spot-light' firmly back on 'brussel's & 'Ban'.

Does 'brussel's truly want to resolve this situation?

And is 'Ban' working for the UN or the US?

Jovan

pre 15 godina

great. I agree with Peter from Australia, that´s really a smart move, indeed.

and what´s definitely the best here:
the commenting Albanians just don´t wanna see what is unfolding in front of their eyes...

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Of course Serbia and Russia will accept EULEX, the EULEX they can control.

Albanian posters here are kidding themselves if they think that they will have any say in how EULEX works.

This will be left up to the UN where Russia will be a vigelant participant.

peter, sydney

pre 15 godina

If russian diplomatic action was truly irrelevant, then why all the comments? Certainly seems to matter to some.

PRN:
Grow up.

Dashnori i Ceces:
> Oil prices are going down Russia, and so is your population. Trying to compete with USA has bankrupted you a few times.

Would be far more concerned with economies elsewhere if I were you.

Oil prices have dropped due to the implosion in the US relieving supply pressures, but respite will only be brief.

Northern winter will be especially interesting this year.

Toni

pre 15 godina

You know russia is doing a very good job when it comes to keeping sebrian hopes that something is going to happen in Kosova in their benefit. I think without russia at this time we would have a very deep crisis in serbia, because no body wouldn't be out there to at list lie serbs that they are in the right side of the story. But what is very interesting is that serbs doesn't see the real true which is that russia is only talking and when you come to Kosova you don't see anything happening what russia is saying, but when EU and USA say something things happen on the ground so fast that even russia is to late when they declare against it. So russia keep doing a great job in keeping serbs calm until we in Kosova get to implement every bit of every plan which will consolidate Kosovo as a country of the best democratic and economical values.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 15 godina

I have never seen so much flip-flopping only on this web page from Serb camp.
Ever since UNMIK came to Kosova ,Serb poster s were saying that UNMIK is an illegal foreighn power ocupying Kosova. Before February 17 2008 , they said same about declaration of Indepndence that will never happend, but it did. Afterwards they said UNMIK is the only legal power in Kosova. When EULEX came in the picture they said this will never happened, but it is happening allready and according to coments on this article everybody seems to agree that ; there is nothing they can do to stopped.