Anniversary of murder of 14 K. Serb farmers

(bmrusila, 23 July 2008 20:58)

bmusila,

Whoever kills innocent civilians should be responsible for the gravest crimes no matter the circumstances.
This was the same for Arkan, Milosevic and all the Serbs that committed war crimes and it is the same for any Albanian committing the crime.
We did not fight against a Serbia terror regime to have it replaced with a Kosova’n one.

Now bmrusila, please do not use this tragedy in order for you to tell as the stories that you “saw” in the recent film you saw (I believe it was released in Check Republic).
You see bmrusila, I saw the film myself and found it no different from any other cheap-propaganda films from the pre-Milosevic, Milosevic and post-Milosevic Serbia era (you know the ones where they show Albanians (shot dead) while trying to “smuggle” arms to Kosovo). Somehow, every single one of them had a Korans with them (together with the guns they were bringing), even though some of them were Albanian Catholics. Go figure.

bmrusila, an Albanian that curses mother Theresa is one of the three:
1. Not worth the Albanian name
2. Not an Albanian
3. Mentally sick person.
An Albanian that bullies another Albanian on religious grounds belongs to the same category.

So please bmrusila do not cite Serbian propaganda movies for two reasons:
1. The pro-Serbian team members already “know” the “facts” you are trying to put forward.
2. The Pro-Albanian team knows that this is simple cheap propaganda. It might have worked in the 60s to the 80s. Not any more.

It is actually sad that you did not comment on news item but rather found your self provoked by my writings. You did not even mention the victims and the event. So much about the Albanianism that you are spreading over here.



Regards
(bmrusila, 24 July 2008 15:47)c

Bmrusila,

I clearly commented on the news (something that you missed).
What I also added afterwards (this part you did not miss) is that you should not be using this news to diverge on something completely unrelated.
Bmrusila, if you are going to diverge from the news to the extent you did expect to be criticised.
And bmrusila, the film is a cheap propaganda from the beginning to the end (actually becomes cheesy after a while).
The aim might have been the director’s version of the truth, but as it is not based on facts it is a simple propaganda movie (just like the SSSR communist propaganda of the 50s and the 60s).


(BK47, 24 July 2008 07:26)

I do agree that Azdren’s (not Azdran by the way) comment comes across as harsh. I am not going to comment on that, I will however remind you on a comment you put forward about Karadzic.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=52105#hrono

If I read correctly you refer to him as a hero???
So now BK47 with a comment like that, what gives you the right to judge others?

(ida, 24 July 2008 17:35)

Not trying to sound rude but, were you there?
You seem to know everything that is needed to bring the killers to justice (who they were, what did they wear and how did they kill them), so shouldn’t you be assisting with the enquiry?
Sorry Ida, really not trying to be insensitive. It is just that I read a lot of comments from you where you tend to describe events that nobody else saw (like having a magic ball or something).

I agree with Blero on his comments.

In fact, I should also add that crimes like these only demonstrated that there are Albos out there who are as equally capable of committing mass murders as the Karadzices and Mladices and Arkans of Serbia. They're a disgrace to Albanians wherever they are.

I believe, the perpetrators will rot in jail eventually (or get killed in some back alley...). It may take a while, but sooner or later you always end up paying your dues.

bmrusila, ida, BK47...
----------------------

I don't think we can argue who's the bad guy in this conflict and who's the angel. There are no angels. So that leaves us with numbers...and the numbers of victims from the Kosovo conflict aren't on your side.

There still are far more Albanian civilian corpses littering the ground than Serbian.

So while you should protest against any Albanian injustices towards Serbs, you got to own up to yours first.

Your government is starting to take those steps...why are you still making excuses?

BTW, the same rule applies to my kind. I have no respect for those Albanians who would justify murdering Serb farmers working their fields "just because that's what the Serbs did to us...".

Perpetrators still walk free amongst the Albanians and enjoy full respect of the society since their contribution to the society was large (14 Serbs dead massacred in just few minutes), still Albanians in this site have gust to comment issues that concerns crime pointing finger at Serbs as the evil that protects the criminals. Yet, K-Albanian criminals ran the province largely.

It makes me really disgust when reading the comments posted by the Albanians who portray themselves as freedom lovers and true pacifists. The one might even believe in this propaganda spreading, but video footages, however, do not lie but witness the reality of raising children of Albanian nationality and of Islamic religion in Kosovo. I was shocked when seeing a ten years old child (Muslim) abusing another 10 years old Christian catholic cursing and spewing on Mother Teresa and at same time threatening to that Catholic boy that his throat will be cut ( demonstrating it very precisely).

Today’s day must never be forgotten as many other days of Serbian suffering in Kosovo. May their souls rest in peace.

When the headline said "14 K. Serb farmers" I was almost convinced it meant 14,000! So I was curious to see what this 14,000 dead Serb anniversary was. Oh, I was wrong! it was only 14.

so much news for 14 dead people?! Why, do they really value human-life so much? Too bad they didn't report properly all the ethnic cleansing that took place in Kosova when it was due.

Reading insensitvies comments likt that from azdran is extremly hurtful.As if those life don't matter. I know the argument always is the Serbs killed more people etc, but what difference does that make to the family of those Serb victims, every life's that's lost counts from every side.

I hope this is not the common stand from the Albanians, and that they are begining to look what has been done in their name also,the same way as we Serbs should look at what crimes has been commited in our name. If every Albanian thinks like azdran it would be extremly sad and it shows they got a long way to go.
At least we are doing somethiing to come to terms with the past, which the arrest of Karadzic again shows.

azdran,

very insensitive, do you have no soul? Is this a commonly held Albanian view point?

More 'ethnic' cleansing occurred at the hands of NATO bombs and NOT Serbian troops.

R.I.P. to the victims, and may we never forget this horrible massacre.

Blero,

The film is not any form of propaganda but very simply the truth. You Albanians are propagandists No 1, though with the great help from the outside.

As for the terror, as long as your criminals walk free and they are all free (as a reward for killing Serbs), you Albanians cannot experience nothing else but the terror of your own hand. That will come back to you sooner or later.

Or do you say that the perpetrators of such massacres that took place some years ago are actually arrested.


It is actually sad that you did not comment on news item but rather found your self provoked by my writings. You did not even mention the victims and the event. So much about the Albanianism that you are spreading over here.



Regards

These killings were done by Albanians wearing British uniforms and riding in British vehicles. The British soldiers were stationed nearby.

The Serbs had asked for protection from the British that evening, so when people in British uniforms showed up they weren't initially frightened.

But then the Albanians went with an orgy of violence and even ran the farm machines over some of the farmers they had just killed.

There were photos of these farmers and it was very gory.

When the headline said "14 K. Serb farmers" I was almost convinced it meant 14,000! So I was curious to see what this 14,000 dead Serb anniversary was. Oh, I was wrong! it was only 14.

so much news for 14 dead people?! Why, do they really value human-life so much? Too bad they didn't report properly all the ethnic cleansing that took place in Kosova when it was due.

Perpetrators still walk free amongst the Albanians and enjoy full respect of the society since their contribution to the society was large (14 Serbs dead massacred in just few minutes), still Albanians in this site have gust to comment issues that concerns crime pointing finger at Serbs as the evil that protects the criminals. Yet, K-Albanian criminals ran the province largely.

It makes me really disgust when reading the comments posted by the Albanians who portray themselves as freedom lovers and true pacifists. The one might even believe in this propaganda spreading, but video footages, however, do not lie but witness the reality of raising children of Albanian nationality and of Islamic religion in Kosovo. I was shocked when seeing a ten years old child (Muslim) abusing another 10 years old Christian catholic cursing and spewing on Mother Teresa and at same time threatening to that Catholic boy that his throat will be cut ( demonstrating it very precisely).

Today’s day must never be forgotten as many other days of Serbian suffering in Kosovo. May their souls rest in peace.

azdran,

very insensitive, do you have no soul? Is this a commonly held Albanian view point?

More 'ethnic' cleansing occurred at the hands of NATO bombs and NOT Serbian troops.

R.I.P. to the victims, and may we never forget this horrible massacre.

(bmrusila, 23 July 2008 20:58)

bmusila,

Whoever kills innocent civilians should be responsible for the gravest crimes no matter the circumstances.
This was the same for Arkan, Milosevic and all the Serbs that committed war crimes and it is the same for any Albanian committing the crime.
We did not fight against a Serbia terror regime to have it replaced with a Kosova’n one.

Now bmrusila, please do not use this tragedy in order for you to tell as the stories that you “saw” in the recent film you saw (I believe it was released in Check Republic).
You see bmrusila, I saw the film myself and found it no different from any other cheap-propaganda films from the pre-Milosevic, Milosevic and post-Milosevic Serbia era (you know the ones where they show Albanians (shot dead) while trying to “smuggle” arms to Kosovo). Somehow, every single one of them had a Korans with them (together with the guns they were bringing), even though some of them were Albanian Catholics. Go figure.

bmrusila, an Albanian that curses mother Theresa is one of the three:
1. Not worth the Albanian name
2. Not an Albanian
3. Mentally sick person.
An Albanian that bullies another Albanian on religious grounds belongs to the same category.

So please bmrusila do not cite Serbian propaganda movies for two reasons:
1. The pro-Serbian team members already “know” the “facts” you are trying to put forward.
2. The Pro-Albanian team knows that this is simple cheap propaganda. It might have worked in the 60s to the 80s. Not any more.

Blero,

The film is not any form of propaganda but very simply the truth. You Albanians are propagandists No 1, though with the great help from the outside.

As for the terror, as long as your criminals walk free and they are all free (as a reward for killing Serbs), you Albanians cannot experience nothing else but the terror of your own hand. That will come back to you sooner or later.

Or do you say that the perpetrators of such massacres that took place some years ago are actually arrested.


It is actually sad that you did not comment on news item but rather found your self provoked by my writings. You did not even mention the victims and the event. So much about the Albanianism that you are spreading over here.



Regards

Reading insensitvies comments likt that from azdran is extremly hurtful.As if those life don't matter. I know the argument always is the Serbs killed more people etc, but what difference does that make to the family of those Serb victims, every life's that's lost counts from every side.

I hope this is not the common stand from the Albanians, and that they are begining to look what has been done in their name also,the same way as we Serbs should look at what crimes has been commited in our name. If every Albanian thinks like azdran it would be extremly sad and it shows they got a long way to go.
At least we are doing somethiing to come to terms with the past, which the arrest of Karadzic again shows.

These killings were done by Albanians wearing British uniforms and riding in British vehicles. The British soldiers were stationed nearby.

The Serbs had asked for protection from the British that evening, so when people in British uniforms showed up they weren't initially frightened.

But then the Albanians went with an orgy of violence and even ran the farm machines over some of the farmers they had just killed.

There were photos of these farmers and it was very gory.

It is actually sad that you did not comment on news item but rather found your self provoked by my writings. You did not even mention the victims and the event. So much about the Albanianism that you are spreading over here.



Regards
(bmrusila, 24 July 2008 15:47)c

Bmrusila,

I clearly commented on the news (something that you missed).
What I also added afterwards (this part you did not miss) is that you should not be using this news to diverge on something completely unrelated.
Bmrusila, if you are going to diverge from the news to the extent you did expect to be criticised.
And bmrusila, the film is a cheap propaganda from the beginning to the end (actually becomes cheesy after a while).
The aim might have been the director’s version of the truth, but as it is not based on facts it is a simple propaganda movie (just like the SSSR communist propaganda of the 50s and the 60s).


(BK47, 24 July 2008 07:26)

I do agree that Azdren’s (not Azdran by the way) comment comes across as harsh. I am not going to comment on that, I will however remind you on a comment you put forward about Karadzic.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=52105#hrono

If I read correctly you refer to him as a hero???
So now BK47 with a comment like that, what gives you the right to judge others?

(ida, 24 July 2008 17:35)

Not trying to sound rude but, were you there?
You seem to know everything that is needed to bring the killers to justice (who they were, what did they wear and how did they kill them), so shouldn’t you be assisting with the enquiry?
Sorry Ida, really not trying to be insensitive. It is just that I read a lot of comments from you where you tend to describe events that nobody else saw (like having a magic ball or something).

I agree with Blero on his comments.

In fact, I should also add that crimes like these only demonstrated that there are Albos out there who are as equally capable of committing mass murders as the Karadzices and Mladices and Arkans of Serbia. They're a disgrace to Albanians wherever they are.

I believe, the perpetrators will rot in jail eventually (or get killed in some back alley...). It may take a while, but sooner or later you always end up paying your dues.

bmrusila, ida, BK47...
----------------------

I don't think we can argue who's the bad guy in this conflict and who's the angel. There are no angels. So that leaves us with numbers...and the numbers of victims from the Kosovo conflict aren't on your side.

There still are far more Albanian civilian corpses littering the ground than Serbian.

So while you should protest against any Albanian injustices towards Serbs, you got to own up to yours first.

Your government is starting to take those steps...why are you still making excuses?

BTW, the same rule applies to my kind. I have no respect for those Albanians who would justify murdering Serb farmers working their fields "just because that's what the Serbs did to us...".