Radovan Karadžić arrested

Disgusting. Tadic and Dacic should be tried for treason. While Nasir Oric and Haradinaj walk free they send more Serbs to this political kangaroo court? Truly dispicable.

So when can we can we expect George W Bush and Tony Blair be sitting in the Hague to account for their crmes for the illegal bombing of YU in '99 and the subsequent illegal invasion of Iraq which has cost over a million Iraqi lives as well as the numerous human rights abuses that have and are continuing to go on in numerous secret CIA camps in Iraq and beyond.

If we are to have any semblace of justice, let those on all sides who have committed henious crimes be held accountable, Karadzic, Mladic, Haradinaj and Thaci included.

About time at least he will get some justice undeserved. Not like his evil policies inflicted on 10s of thousands murdered tortured starved ethnic cleansed raped children woman men by his evil doing. Also the millions living how suffer to this day because of him and his evil policies.

God of Justice

Those of us who personally know Radovan Karadzic to be innocent both of genocide and of fomenting the civil war in Bosnia will at first be disappointed by his arrest.

However, take heart, there is no point in arguing with destiny. The trial of this defender of Serbs promises to bring to light the role of al Qaeda in Bosnia, the Muslim government's willing sacrifice of its youth for fanatical Islam, the U.S. support for the same international terrorists it blames for the 9-11 attacks, and the true root of the recent Bosnian conflict in the absolutely real genocide perpetrated against Serbs, Jews and Gypsies during World War Two. The holocaust visited upon them by their Croat and Muslim neighbours will finally come to light and the entire world will have the chance to weigh on the scales of justice the over 700,000 victims of the Croatian and Muslim butchers against the alleged 7,000 Muslim fighting-age males who fell with Srebrenica. Soon, the public will be seeing the photos of the thousands of Serbian civilians slaughtered by Muslim death squads striking out from within that so-called "safe area" that was nothing more than a staging ground for mass murder against the Serbs.

After this arrest it will become increasingly difficult for the Muslims and Croats to keep playing their false role as innocent lambs.

Radovan Karadzic never fled justice, he merely refused to submit to the biased court of victor's injustice disguised in a Kangaroo suit at the Hague.

I had the pleasure of being present in person when President Karadzic very convincingly explained the Bosnian Serb position of self-defence against insurgent illegal secessionists and their agressive foreign weapons suppliers. I look forward to seeing him tell the entire world what the Western media has tried to suppress and misrepresent ever since the fall of Srebrenica. I also look forward to seeing the U.S. government face the fact that it not only gave the Muslims the carte blanche that started the Bosnian war, but then also invited the Iranians to arm its local pawns in a twisted Clintonian repeat of Iran-Contra that proves that the difference between America's Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum political parties is nothing more than the minor variations in the way that they pursued their common criminal foreign policy in the Balkans.

Radovan Karadzic will cut through the lies about Bosnia at the Hague and show the world why the Serbian national anthem calls on the "God of Justice" to protect the Serbs. The real guilty parties will then become obvious to all fair-minded people, no matter what undeserved demonization and tortures the U.S.-EU lynch mob inflicts on Karadzic and, by extension, the entire Serbian nation.

So, the evil sheriff and his lackeys have brought our Robin Hood to trial... but the truth will now condemn them, and make him (Karadzic) the Dreyfus of this era.

Sincerely,

John Bosnitch
Journalist
john.b@imcnews.com

Congratulations Tadic! You've officially become a pawn of the U.S. and the E.U.

Can't you understand that the E.U will never let you into their club. No matter what you do. . .they'll want more. More demands to satisfy more conditions. And in the end, you'll have traded the soul of your people for nothing.

The E.U. is making a mockery of Serbia. They've:

* stolen our land
* supported our enemies
* set murderes of Serbs free
* turned a blind eye to the destruction of our heritage
* even bombed our cities and massacred our people.

And you still want to be part of them?

Shame.

If this is true, it is a very shameful day for all Serbs in Serbia and around the world. A man that protected the Serbs from being cleansed has been backstabbed. Nobody is arresting Americans and others for waging war on other nations, but when it comes to the Serbian army, they need to be punished. The message is: "If you are Serbian, you have no right to defend yourselfs, and if you do, you go to prison".

Very, very racist!

KOSOVO IS SERBIAN
MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIAN

sad to see how the kangaroo-court will be boasting about "justice"...

funny to see our albanian friends here writing comments under american or at least english-sounding nick-names - in order to create the impression as if anybody in the states would care about it. :)

to Adrian:

on what basis are you calling Karadzic and Mladic criminals?

I mean, you don´t simply let the mainstream-media impose their deranged views on you, do you?

I´m afraid, Mr. Clinton could be called a criminal and Bushie, too.
they are real criminals, but Karadzic and Mladic???

seems like a whole bunch of B92-readers have no own opinion...or they were reading manipulated "news" for too long!

This is not surprising at all. The sell-outs are in power and Serbia is for sale - all of it for a nice bag of carrots straight from Solana's garden. Oh, and a couple of French Villas for a select few!

As normal, he will be found either guilty or dead.

How long before he "commits suicide" too?
Any Serb who fought for his people during the war is now wanted for war crimes. Seems to me it is a crime to fight for Serbs and protect the Serbs.

If he is sent to Hague he will not get a fair trial for one and if they find that they cannot prove guilt then he will be eliminated just like Milosevic and Seselj is in danger of as well.

didn't take the new leadership very long to implement their masters plan

Excellent. Next is Mladic. Had you done it before Kosovo would still be in Serbia. Kostunica is to blame!!!

Once the new world order is over and the forced islamisation of Europe is stopped together with brainwashing provided by media this guy will be placed where he really belongs among the great defenders of christian europe.

What else do you expect from a Serbian government that would make the Nazi sympathizers look good. I mean, Serbia is pretty much run by those who do what the Americans tell them to do. They've sold Kosovo, and they've sold Karadzic. It's amusing how the man from the Tribunal says the victim's families are going to get justice. What about all those Serbian victims whose organs were harvested by the Albanians and sold to people across the world? I guess those victims don't deserve the same respect. The Tribunal is OBVIOUSLY anti-Serbian and biased, and yet, the Serbs just handed off a war time hero to an illegal kangaroo court. Serbia has sold its soul when it elected Tadic and company.

Does not suprise me a bit, cause they knew all along where he was. The protector all of sudden becomes a turcoat. wow, come on guys tell us in which Hotel is Mladic?

Shame on you serbian politicians u traited serbian hero!! You played hide and seek when he fighted for serbian people!!!

Its a disgrace, mate Bill Clinton, Wesley Clarke, Tony Blair and so on Have to be tried before Radovan Karadzic absolute disgrace Serb forces..who are they manipulated by democracy(Money) .... EU death to it I say and all these Multi Union states....people use to say death to communism and fascism I say death to Democracy and western manipulation from multinationals...From a Realist

RE: Capture of Radovan Karadzic

With a pro-American coalition elected in Serbia and shaky at that decided to arrest a man who will more than likely be sent to the Kangaroo court in the Hague. Slobodan Milosevic was found guity of no international crime, the same fate awaits Karadzic who will never get a fair trial. The shame is the Serbian leaders who continue to foresake Serbia under tremendous international pressure from some members of the EU and the United States.

If there is justice, than Karadjic should be tried at the ICJ (International Court of Justice) where the US is not signatory, not the show trail called the Hague Tribunal. Most Serbs are more than willing to accept guilt if there is a proper trial-this didn't happen with Slobodan Milosevic trial.

Shame on you!! U did favor to muslims!! Just remember what they did to us for all this years!!!

[sarcasm] It's about time the Serbian aggressors are brought to justice for killing billions of innocent people. [/sarcasm]

Why does everyone want us to be wiped off the face of the planet?

In the Balkans we are not even welcome in our own homes and for trying to protect our homes we are branded brutal murderers and war criminals.

Go ahead Serbophobes - finally "liberate" the world of us Serbs.

FINALLY! One down, one to go and there then is NO reason why Serbia should not be considered for entry into the EU, along with Bosnia.

this is purely dispicable from serbian politicians ... america makes us miserable to the ground and theyre still sucking up to them ... when will they learn to stay away from the real war criminals ... i just hope the one that gave out karadzic can never sleep again knowing what he has just done and i hope the money america gave him for doing that is worth it

Look who the interior minister is when Karadzic is arrested. Maybe for Ivica Dacic's next trick he'll rape Milosevic's widow.

Oric runs free as a disk jockey, Thaci and Hardinaj are running the KLA mafia state and yet the Serbian government still capitulates to the Serb haters in the EU. Why?

When are the killers and committers of genocide against the Serbs and Roma going to be brought to justice? Oh I forgot, it's ok to annihilate 300,000 Krajina Serbs. It's ok for the Dutch to wink and nod as Oric murdered Serbs from a UN safe haven. It's ok for the KLA to murder anybody who is not Albanian in order to implement their racist final solution.

The EU and the Hague are jokes. They have nothing to do with human rights. They whine about Serbia while Italians implement pogroms against the Roma.

A great day for imperialism. A great day for hypocrisy.

Great news! It is amazing just how soon after Kostunica goes and a new intelligence chief is appointed that this happens. Rather confirms what everyone suspected about the former PM. The sad thing is that his decision to protect Karadzic and Mladic probably ensured the loss of Kosovo. I hope he (and other nationalists) feels it was worth it!

To Ahmet and all the albanians this is an internal issue for serbia. I don't understand your interference. Mind your business and get a life.

It's hard to take this as positive news, when he's going to be judged by a kangaroo court. However, I do understand why it was done.

Nevertheless, everyone knows he is no more guilty of anything than Izetbegovic, Tudjman, Haradinaj, or Thaci.

Honestly, I don't see this as any step toward reconciliation between the former yugos, just a political stunt that moves Serbia forward.

peace

A great day for Serbia and a better day for Bosniaks, Croats and Kosovars who now have some hope of justice. When the Serb people realise the awful things that were done in their name, the nation should change for the better.

Just this minute i heard the news on BBC and wanted to be the first person to write in! but b-92 beat me to it. great day for us, great day. i won't say anything else at the moment. cannot wait to see him on trial at the hague.

he owes my frnd Fehim millions of dollars (our civil case in NY) and he owes the world a lot, a whole lot...

thirteen years we have waited for this day!

great day!!!

roberto-frisco

This goes to show what a charade the Serbian govts have been playing for years. They knew where he and Mladic was a long time ago. When political will was there, Karadzic was arrested immediately. Lets hope Mladic follows him closely behind to the Hague and this shameful theatre comes to an end.

Serbs feel ashamed with a president like Tadic. What a sad day for Serbs all around the world.

Boy oh boy, this goes like that:

"We don't know where the fugitives are" => "Karadzic captured" => International pressure on Serbia is a positive thing for justice! So let's keep on that way and impose on Serbia some more dark days.

Good news for Serbia. Now they will only have to "find" the other criminal too!

GREAT NEWS! Serbia has taken one giant leap forward. Though I have to admit, I would have thought Mladic would have been found first as everyone seemed to have forgotten Karadzic. Still, I am very pleased for the outcome and very pleased that there is one less person holding all of Serbia hostage.

i am shamed that i am serbian.when you betray serbian eagle serbian icon and serbian nation...

Serbia, as of now you can bow your head in shame. You have elected the government you deserve.

Croatia has protected their people and they were truly war criminals and so has Bosnia. Albanians have successfully managed to get theirs out too.

RS and their leadership is owed a lot more from Serbia than what they got.

Shame, shame is all I can say.

This is not enough for serbia to
Join EU .
Serbia must recognize kosovo as
independent state en then is good to go.

To Dr. Radovan Karadzic, I wish you all the best and hope that you defend yourself with courage, passion and dignity at the Kangaroo court in the Hauge. I hope that your words get to be heard all over the world, so that people are able to find out the truth of what really happened in Bosnia, and not the lies and fiction of the US, UK, Germany.

All criminals in the balkans should be put on trial. but unfortunately only the serbs are being jailed while the criminals from the other side are being set free.

FINALLY!!!

Now Serbia must go after Ratko Mladic.

I am proud to read many positive Serbian comments here expressing their dissapointment of the recent arrest of Radovan Karadžić. Especially Jonh (#40) made some excellent remarks that hopefully will all become reality. I just hope that the current Serbian leaders will realize what they have really done.

Dragi Jovan,
FINALLY!!! Karadzic is captured.
I saw you were asking an interesting/ironic question to one of the Albanian wirters. "Were are your basis in judging Karadzic and Mladic as criminals"?. I guess you may find it just thousands kilometers far from Belgrade. 7.500 graves of Srebrenica are more than an evidence (which trembles a human being - if it be). I am fine with you if you want to pass for heroes Karadzic & Co. I really respect your opinion.Notwithstanding, there is a culprit that your country engaged in three bloody, successive wars that destroyed your pocket, your well-being and raped your national pride. Its a completely another issue how much the rest of the "others" in Yugoslavia were prone of the rapes from the "Dinaric Race".
Srebrenica is an evidence that trembled the mankind!

Return Naser Oric and Ramush Haradinaj for criminal trial to the Hague and stop RACISM.

"As for Kosovo: try to conquer it: 7 million Albanians in Balkans united will defend it now and forever
(Albanicum, 22 July 2008 01:44)"

your desperate rambo-phrases make me feel good! they show how weak you actually are!

let´s see how long Dr. Karadzic will survive in this political institution, called "ICTY"... let´s see whether they will give him opportunity to tell the world about the filthy western tactics the Romans once called "divide et impera"...

Given a choice I would rather have him tried in a Serbian court, but it was high time that the man handed himself over or steps were taken to apprehend him.

Perhaps the Hague is a kangaroo court but lets not forget that these are serious charges that should be answered. Each of us would feel the same way were we victims of his or Gotovina, Haradinaj etc...

No, a message has been sent about which course the government will take. This was the ticket (mandate) on which the current government was voted in. Anybody who told themselves otherwise was fooling himself.

To the people who have posted anti Serb comments i would like to say, sitting in front of your TV and watching anti Serb propaganda does not make you a Balkans Expert!!

Checkout Byzantinesacredart.com/blog for more info concerning the Balkans wars Sub headings Croatia and Bosnia!! this might interest you and help shed some light on the subject, there is also and article equally good concerning the truth of Srebrenica!! and finally on YOUTUBE watch CZECH documentary STOLEN KOSOVO, for a start!!

Listening to westen propaganda without doing your own research then demonizing the Serbs is justs as bad as those Germans who blindly saluted Hitler!!

The nature of the one sided anti-Serb hysteria in media outlets throughout the world is a masterpiece of propaganda of which Goebbels himself would have been proud.
Shame on all the so called 'journalists' who have engineered this despicable one eyed travesty.

@roberto, 21 July 2008 23:53

Civel suits in the USA are worthless outside the USA.

Nice try but it don't work that way, youre not gonna see 1 penny from this guy.

Like I have been saying! There is no bigger trader than Belgrade. Why wait!Please just recognize Kosovo too and stop playing games with the Serbian people we know its going to happen!! $$$$$ can do so much to make a country weak. My Serbian brothers and sisters do not call Kosovo a puppet state, when the biggest puppet state is Serbia. I do not codone what Radovan did, but I am sick of this brown nosing country called Serbia.

isn't it funny? most defenders of Karadzic are living outside of Serbia - Canada, USA, UK, Ireland - and guess, whom the majority of them supported with passion in the election debates?

I wish Karadzic a fair trial and a long and healthy life.

Justice is very sweet.

Time for justice, time for those victims and their families in Bosnia to rest in peace. God bles all the people from Ballkans who suffered under the Milosevic regime.

Another shamefull news against Serbs.

People out there that find this news great please try to find some truth on the real story behind the Balkans. look up the deeds of people like Naser Oric, Alihja Izetbegovic, Franjo Tudjman. I am not trying to convince anybody that Karadzic is an angel, but under the siege that serbs have been during this last war (and still are) would you defend youself? But lets talk about Bratunac nearbt srebrenica, Ask them the memories they have about the "visits" of mr Naser Oric and those guys which he commanded that didn`t even speak Bosnian, and wore green scarfs on their heads. The prediction of the "green way" of Mr Izetbegovic in the middle of Europe is taking shape and we are all to blame for it.

“To Dr. Radovan Karadzic, I wish you all the best and hope that you defend yourself with courage”

Well, I wish Karadzic a very long life… in prison.

Its seems that theres more to the Karadzic saga than meets the eye.

It seems that the US and Russians were protecting him. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-and-the-us-accused-of-secret-deal-to-protect-karadzic-401688.html

Many of us, who love Serbia and the Serbs have been waiting since long time for this news.
It has arrived.
Volim te Srbijo!

This could ultimately be to Karadzic's benefit. As I recall, Milosevic was viewed far more favorably after his trial than he was before. This will also give Karadzic the chance to set the record straight on what happened in Bosnia during the war. I'm sure that for these years he's been in hiding he has been also preparing a defense in case he ever did get caught. I read an interview with him from 1996 where he said he was preparing a file of documents.

There is no way that the Tribunal will give him a fair trial. From this point forward he will spend the rest of his life in prison, but he has been afforded the chance to set the historical record straight through the evidence he calls during the trial.

The trial of Radovan Karadzic should go a long way in setting a historical record that explains what really happened in Bosnia between 1992-1995.

Hopefully, B92 will broadcast the Karadzic trial live wall to wall like they did with Milosevic. Let the public see who has the better evidence. Radovan Karadzic or the Tribunal.

As mentioned on SerbBlog, will Radovan be given the chance to shed light on Croatian and Bosnian crimes?? Which probably greatly out number and out scale anything Serbia has ever anything done!!! If you doubt this and would like to know more know more checkout Byzantinesacredart.com/blog subheadings Croatia and Bosnia or regarding Kosovo, CZECH documentary STOLEN KOSOVO available on Youtube

A great day for Serbia! A great day for the Balkans! A great day for the democratic world!

A really sad day for ultranationalists and preachers of hate.

I must say, it is sad to hear some of the Serb's comments here about Karadzic.

This man going to court should transcend principals and rather been taken for what it is: a trial of a war criminal responsible for crimes against humanity.

I don't get why the Serbs here call loudest for Croats, Albanians and Bosniaks to be tried, yet cannot accept responsibility for the actions of their own.

On top of that you seriously downplay the role of Bosnian Serbs in the Bosnian War and inflate Croatian, Albanian and Bosniak atrocities. This man was responsible for many deaths in the Former Yugoslavia as anybody else, he deserves nothing more than trial and imprisonment, if you believe otherwise, than you are preaching pure propaganda to everyone here.

I say all war criminals should be tried for their crimes, be they Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Chenchyan, Russian, Albanian... there should be no preferences towards nationalities, though judging by many Serb comments here, that poisonous nationalism that destroyed Yugoslavia is still alive and well today.

Hey Niko, it is obvious that you don't know that Thaci is also a wanted criminal, to me he's the worse one but that's my opinion. He's there in Pristina just because US needs him for their interests. This is what i call justice. Next time if i were you I would think not once or twice maybe ten time before writing.

Radovan Karadzic will cut through the lies about Bosnia at the Hague and show the world why the Serbian national anthem calls on the "God of Justice" to protect the Serbs. The real guilty parties will then become obvious to all fair-minded people, no matter what undeserved demonization and tortures the U.S.-EU lynch mob inflicts on Karadzic and, by extension, the entire Serbian nation.

So, the evil sheriff and his lackeys have brought our Robin Hood to trial... but the truth will now condemn them, and make him (Karadzic) the Dreyfus of this era.

Sincerely,

John Bosnitch
Journalist
john.b@imcnews.com
(John Bosnitch, 22 July 2008 02:30)

Your sentiments are echoed, but unfortunately Radovan Karadzic will not be afforded the same platform Slobodan Milosevic was. Any trial will be shortened and those words that will come out of Karadzic mount will be tainted.

A great Serbian Patriot , Draza Mihailovic also went into a show trial headed by the Yugoslav Communist prosecutor Milos Minic. Draza Mihailovic was clearly drugged and incoherent. Karadzic will also be silenced, but the truth can never be silenced.

This is wonderful news. I hope it proves to be productive for Serbia and that there isn't a counterproductive reaction by drunken mobs in Belgrade.

Good news, now it is time for prosecutor to prove he is guilty and not only that. This guy must tell the whole world the truth on state-sponsored genocide from Serbs to Bosnians sometimes from Bosnians to Serbs (in any case revenge on the innocent is a crime as well!). However,to those who think that Serbia will join EU immediately or will gain Kosovo: guys this is wishful thinking. EU will not lower it standards for Serbia or Albania or Montenegro. As for Kosovo: try to conquer it: 7 million Albanians in Balkans united will defend it now and forever

Nice done.
It was the smartest move Serbia has done in years. Lets all hope that this will mean a new era of peace for all of us living in the Balkans. Destabilization is good to none of us. Nice done.

I fthe Serb comments here are any indication of Serbian attitudes, you just mde the case why Kosova needed to be independent and with its own army. It also explains why every Republic left you, Crna Gora included. You guys should read what he did and be ashamed of your posts.

I just notixed that on the German Spiegel this is - as expected - front page news with first photo. Some people calls him the Bin Laden of Europe.

#79

Niko I wonder if your opinion would also apply to your Kosovo leaders or are they innocent in your eyes?
(Goran, 22 July 2008 11:42)
Yes, my opinion apply to Kosovo leaders too!
War criminals commit first of all crimes against humanity, against all of us. The nationality of the victims or perpetrators is irrelevant. Nor the purpose of the war justify those crimes.
As per Kosovar leaders who went to Hague those who were released were declared "not guilty" for lack of evidence or because the prosecution had weak case (perpetrators were others). Being declared "not guilty" it does'nt make you automatically "innocent".

Those who rioted in Trg Republike and Knez Mihailova show exactly why Karadzic should have been arrested long ago. And for Aleksandar Vucic to have joined them in their "protest" (it was hardly a protest, they destroyed and damaged a few of the outdoor kafanas and the most of the clay art display) shows just why he should not be anywhere near a leadership role. To think that the man who wanted to be the mayor of Belgrade only weeks ago would go out and willingly incite public violence is deplorable.

"Does not suprise me a bit, cause they knew all along where he was. The protector all of sudden becomes a turcoat. wow, come on guys tell us in which Hotel is Mladic?
(Ahmet Isufi, 21 July 2008 23:49)"

Ramush for sure sent a few "thank you" letters to Serbian and Albanian mafia. Otherwise he would be in a big trouble.

This answers your question, Ahmet. Mladic is in the hotel with best hot-line to snake and pigeon. He is right now negotiating with the said animals what is the price they would "take care" about possible witnesses. As it is said in Russia: "долг платежом красен".

To Ahmet and all the albanians this is an internal issue for serbia. I don't understand your interference. Mind your business and get a life.
(Eagle_durres, 22 July 2008 02:34)
I beg to differ sir. We are talking about an INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINAL FUGITIVE indicted for war crimes in another country (Bosnia)and hiding in the middle of Beograd for 12 YEARS! There is no internal affair. This is an international scandal which shows the true face of the former serbian politicians who were hidding Karadzic for all this time. The same politicians who were screaming about the ilegality of Kosovo's independence, were aiding and abeiting international war criminals. That's hardly an internal affair of Serbia. We as albanians are immediately affected by it. Kosovars even more.
Finally something is changing for good in Serbia. Better late than never.

“We owe him some credit for forging a viable Serbian state on historic Serbian land (which will soon be independent)”

Bout how Republika Srpska, the eastern part of Bosnia, would achieve this? The Bosnian Serb Army is gone, and Belgrade won’t send troops beyond the Drina anymore… and remember ther is Brcko and Posavina, which don’t belong to Srpska but to Srajevo.

“It will take many years before the Serb image will be restored to its brave, and heroic image as a defender of freedom and Christendom.”

Defender of Freedom and Christendom? Come on, man! The LAST thing Slobodan Milosevic defended between between 1991 and 1999 was Freedom! And about Christianity, well, remember that Croatian and Bosnian Catholics are Christians, too!

#79

Niko I wonder if your opinion would also apply to your Kosovo leaders or are they innocent in your eyes?

This is a great day for everyone. No doubt had serbia complied with ICTY much earlier, Kosovo would still be part of serbia. Serbs may see this as great shame, but shame s only in not doing it.

Committing genocide in name of defense fools noone. instead those actions in itself bring shame.

How interesting. Kostunica is not PM anymore and they find this poppy-flower right away.
It is also not surprising that well-know ultras of this site still have the immoral audacity to defend him. Do they have a conscience at all?

It is indeed a GREAT NEWS!
It is even more amazing to read some comments from the people completely out of touch with the reality.
They are defending those who orchestrated genocide against innocent people.
Wake up this is 21st Century and anyone committing such atrocities should be charged.
This is a chance for Serbia to finally move on with the life and look into the future rather then past.

stop this nonsense saying kosova is serbia and macedonia macedonian aru u to protect nationalist interests of those who are against albanians.
JUST ONE THING ABOUT KARADJIC WHY DID IT HAPPENED THE ARREST THE SAME DAY WHEN HASHIM THAQI WAS IN WHITE HOUSE WHY??? U better start thinking about the futere of serbia because Kosova is gone and has a bright future.

I feel this is the right move. While Haag tribunal is political and there are other ountries/individuals around the world that can easlilly be tried for war crimes, Serbia cannnot ignore it and needs to close chapter from its past. Its irronic that US and Germany - two countries that have perpetued more wars that any other country in history of humanity and each killed literally millions of civillians are champions of compliance with Hag war crimes court. Neverthless, Karadzic and Mladic have temporarilly brought bad reputation to the Serbian name and heritage by senseless violence and occupation of Sarajevo and events in Srebrenica. The future nationalistic crimes and violence can perhaps be prevented by bringing them to trial and having them face their deeds. They are not part of Serbian identity, may long live Serbia in all its greatness.

Good news! I'll drink one tonight to mark the moment.

Joe
This stupid Bin Laden of Europe expression was created by Holbrook one of the best and cheekiest servants of new world order.Of course this primitive media tricks have effect on such brainwashed Pató Pál type people. Reading your narrow minded comments makes me understand why Hungary is fully owned by certain foreign interest groups.
Anyway Mr Karadzic can rather be called Dobó István of the 20th century.

This is Excellent news for the entire region, it looks like Karadzic tried to disguise himself as Santa Claus.

Mladic could be just a few days away as well.

@#50 "Bosnia set itself free from Yugoslavia trough a peacefull republican referendum in which most of the Bosnian population participated and whose absolute majority decided for independence."

Someday I look forward to a nice referendum in Republika Srpska, where the absolute majority gets to peacefully choose their independence.

Who knows maybe there will even be another referendum, and this time the Serbs and Croats can gang up on the Muslims and decide to take themselves and their lands out of Bosnia.

We'll see how fair and democratic you will think things are then.

Interesting news if true.

I hope UE pays a good money for Radovan Karadžić as they do for Milosevic.You should be proud.

I hope Karadzic will get deserved punishment and it will not happen like with Milosevic. Only arrest doesn't mean to much for the families and nations who endured from his brutality and inhumanity. Justice for all!

To all of you in this thread who try to portray the Serb wanted war criminals as innocent individuals…

If Radovan and Ratko are innocent like you claim, why did they hide for the last decade? Why would someone live in seclusion for all these years instead of going to the trial, prove their innocence, get this over with and continue a normal life?

People have done it before – they surrendered, proved their innocence and came back home.

I am in no way comparing Haradinaj and Limaj with Karadzic, but if they went bravely to Hague and proved their innocence, why can’t Karadzic do the same?

Stop the crying and treason claims when try to extreminate a race of people and you have uneducated people saying it was wrong to turn him in then they are just as guilty for those who claim good for him and Serbia should have done this long before you are guilty as well. Did both sides of the circus think of the those who have suffered on both sides for the ideas and thoughts of who was right and was wrong there are not winners only losers. Trying him at the Hague will not bring back the dead or correct the suffereing. You all should be ashamed and for that woman who told me a long time ago that who ever turned over Mladic or Karadic had no heart well lady let me tell you this you have not a heart. Just because you suffered at the hands of the muslims do not make it right for those muslims who suffered at the hands of the Serbs. Maybe when Gen Mladic does the right thing and turn himself in so we can put this nightmare away and maybe our children will grow to understand that violence and hatred toward others will never solve your difference. One day J.Trklja you will understand how others suffer when you lie straight to there face. Thank you B92 for allowing free statements and a place for those to debate in peace.

Nice tirck from serbian politics specially now when Kosovo declared independence and serbia wants to enjoy EU using Karadzic arrest there will be a chance meaby for EU.
But for Kosovo there is no chance to chage anything.

This is the sign that finally this Vlada has a politial cohesion about important state issues. As far as Mr Karadzic is concerned there will be nothing new to be heard from him in the Hague: we know very well that genocide has been declared, so what can he add to that? Most important is that Serbia is coming back onto stage as a leading factor in the Balkans.

yesterday:
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=07&dd=20&nav_id=52053

good job

It may prove a turning point. Starting a war in Bosnia and trying to split the country simply because the majority of ots people opted for independance was a crime of its own. The Bosnian Serbs were in no way threatend by the independnce of Bih in the wake of the collaps of Yugoslavia. Instead of trying to create a peaceful BiH equalli distanced from warring Serbs and Croats, Karadzic and his followers opened the gate to hell.

#24 very interesting link. I assume that as a spokesperson for the chief prosecutor they are referring to del Ponte.
It is more of a condemnation of Russia for blatant disregard for international law.
I guess if you believe the Serbs were about to arrest him in 2004 you could believe that the US sent people into Serbia to warn him---sounds like more I heard someone who knows someone that told someone else so it must be true.
#18 It would be difficult to try Bush for any crimes linked to 99 bombing campaign seeing that he was the governor of Texas at the time.

to vjosa:
"I guess you may find it just thousands kilometers far from Belgrade. 7.500 graves of Srebrenica are more than an evidence (which trembles a human being - if it be)."

thanks for paying attention to that sentence, I appreciate it.

but on the other side, it seems you didn´t pay enough attention to what I have written.
the reason is: it´s a fact, I find it sad, that Dr. Karadzic is caught by a corrupt regime, which has already stated that it will extradite him to the "ICTY", still a political organization, not a real court in the right meaning of that word. and, please would you take notice of the fact, that such an extradition would be violating the serbian constitution!

now to your misunderstandig in regard to my previous comment:

can you please show us all, where I allegedly have stated that Dr.Karadzic is a hero?

I´d be interested to read your answer, my dear albanian friend.

to make it clear, even to you, although you seem to tend more to misinterpret than to understand: in my eyes Dr.Karadzic is neither a hero nor a coward, he´s just a person of historical relevance. the same applies to General Mladic.

so, in addition to my first question, here´s another one:

could you please explain to all of us here, how you are coming to the conclusion that, just because there were found bodies of war-victims that this is automatically linked to Dr.Karadzic?

I mean, do you believe in evidence ( in the true meaning of the word ) at all?

then, my dear albanian friend, you should be able to explain that strange logic behind your conclusion.

before there is no clear and concrete and specific proof that Dr.Karadzic is responsible for any war-crimes in the bosnian war, you should be careful with your conclusions! you know, to be of any relevance, the evidence for a certain allegation has to be causal.

I don´t expect you to understand this but way back, the Romans said "Necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit" and furthermore "nulla poena sine culpa".

I will make it easier for you: if the "ICTY"-"prosecutors" can link Dr.Karadzic up with any organized war-crime, THEN you can talk or write about "evidence"... but as far as we know at present, they can´t.

but to state that just because there were allegedly comitted "war-crimes" in the vicinity of Srebrenica, Dr. Karadzic is responsible for that, is simply and highly nonserious, and frankly said: stupid!

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him..
No that's not Sadam but his looked like Radovan.
No EU for Serbia till the other one get handed in.

“I had the pleasure of being present in person when President Karadzic very convincingly explained the Bosnian Serb position of self-defence against insurgent illegal secessionists and their agressive foreign weapons suppliers. I look forward to seeing him tell the entire world what the Western media has tried to suppress and misrepresent ever since the fall of Srebrenica. I also look forward to seeing the U.S. government face the fact that it not only gave the Muslims the carte blanche that started the Bosnian war”

This is a lie. Bosnia set itself free from Yugoslavia trough a peacefull republican referendum in which most of the Bosnian population participated and whose absolute majority decided for independence (http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,975106,00.html).

The Bosnian War started just some time after this event, mainly by Slobodan Milosevic, Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic (http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,975723,00.html).

Although this capture has produced mixed emotions for me, and although he and most Serbs have been vilified unfairly, Karadžić committed some serious errors which cannot be overlooked either by his enemies, or by Serbs.

We owe him some credit for forging a viable Serbian state on historic Serbian land (which will soon be independent), but he did a great disservice to Serbs with the 3 year seige of Sarajevo which forged world opinion against us. If he was interested in liberating the city, he should have planned a massive, well coordinated infantry invasion at the outset of the war. Instead he carelessly provided fodder for Serbia's enemies in the international press. Even as a teenager I sensed that this was an enormous strategic blunder that would haunt Serbian interests for many years to come--there is no free lunch.

Second, I and most Serbs I know feel that it is morally suspect to indiscriminately bomb a city. Serbs/Cetniks should only engage military targets. I personally know Serbs who remained in the city and were traumatized by this. Where was his common sense?

After many years of pondering this, I have come to the conclusion that Radovan is a sociopath who's time may have finally run out; every tree is known by its fruit.

It will take many years before the Serb image will be restored to its brave, and heroic image as a defender of freedom and Christendom.

It takes only a handful of empowered but INCOMPETENT individuals to plunge an entire nation into pariah status. But we must learn from this and not forget.

As for our enemies, they are just as guilty, but I am here to encourage my own.

good job serbia! buuuuut that is not enough to enter EU you must fulfill more conditions!

On 22 July 2008 02:34, Eagle_durres wrote:

"I don't understand your interference. Mind your business and get a life."

Ahh! Nice to see another defender of free speech in this forum.

Jovan,

Your comments in post #88 indicate that that you fail to acknowledge even the testimony of decent Serb military personnel. If you claim ignorance then I refer you to all the damning testimony taken by the Court in the last eight years. The testimony by Serbs against Karadzic is public record, but as usual you will devise some bogus retort.

Is this what is meant when they say "Never sell your soul to the DEVIL".
As usual we have a impartial unbiased report by the UK media and press.
Enough said.

USA Albanian

Well then it doesn't say much about the intelligence of most Albanians if they think that a region with 65% Serbian population will want to split from Serbia. Anyway, if Albanians send troops into Serbia (when they can eventually afford an army, because right now they don't have one and probably will not be able to afford one in the next 20-30 years), NATO will blow them back to the stone age anyway.

Anyone who believes an accused is muzzled while on Trial at the ICTY has never paid attention to Milosevic's trial while he represented himself nor Seselj's current trial. The tangents a self-represented accused goes on are incredible and offer little in the way of evidence or revelation. Since Karadzic is said to represent himself, believe he'll spout off at every opportunity. Interestingly mostly Serbs choose to represent themselves which does slows the process tremendously.

Another point: it's easier to convict Serbs because during the war, the operated under the guise of the state, used its appartus, and did so believing they were right. Thus, everything is well documented and can be used as evidence in court. The Bosnian Muslims and Kosovar Albanians knew they were on shakier ground and thus resorted to more criminal mediums to execute their nationalist aims. When you operate within these strictures, documenting military assaults isn't quid pro quo, obviously. There's little solid evidence then that can be admitted into court. Witnesses are easily silenced, as we saw from Haradinaj, and the judges did mention this when delivering their verdict.

Finally, anyone who ever collaborated with Arkan is complicit in the suffering and of people throughout ex-Yugo and should have been strung up by his own based on this.

Excellent news!
I sure hope all others will soon be aprehanded and prosecuted (Bill Clinton, Wesley Clark, Richard Hallbrook, Madelaine Albright....)

"@roberto, 21 July 2008 23:53

Civil suits in the USA are worthless outside the USA.

Nice try but it don't work that way, you're not gonna see 1 penny from this guy."
(ronald, 22 July 2008 00:16)

Actually, ronald, that is not entirely the case. we interviewed a law professor who was a part of the civil suit in the late 90s, when she was just a law student. the whole story is quite fascinating -- how they managed to legally serve him, how that "nice" ramsey clark (don't get me started) served as his defense attorney, even though karadzic never showed up in court.

the plaintiffs were divided into 2 groups: rape victims ("gender violence") and mostly concentration camp victims, like my frnd fehim, who was horribly brutalized at Omarska, as well as his wife. the latter were part of a class-action lawsuit.

anyway, the plaintiffs won a default judgment against Mr. K, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. and yes, my frnd said he would "share" some of the $$ with me, but i am not holding my breath. though he could at least help us with our balkan-related work, for which i am deeply in debt.

as to your point: according to our lawyer frnd, all we need is some court in the balkans to recognize the verdict, and attach K's assets, which would be forwarded to these victims of the lawsuit. while i don't expect it to happen inside serbia (in my lifetime) it certainly could and might happen in bosnia, inside the federation. so the issue is getting to the assets, and there are many, many millions of dollars of ill-gotten gains, i can promise you!

it is kind of weird, since we were just reading that "no competent authority in serbia has any information on these men..."

peace, robert-o

ps -- if anyone wishes to read the transcript of the interview, contact me:
robertoruss@yahoo.com

Good news, now it is time for prosecutor to prove he is guilty and not only that. This guy must tell the whole world the truth on state-sponsored genocide from Serbs to Bosnians sometimes from Bosnians to Serbs (in any case revenge on the innocent is a crime as well!). However,to those who think that Serbia will join EU immediately or will gain Kosovo: guys this is wishful thinking. EU will not lower it standards for Serbia or Albania or Montenegro. As for Kosovo: try to conquer it: 7 million Albanians in Balkans united will defend it now and forever

So glad that this didn't happen under Ms del Ponte. Other than that I don't care.
Ajde SRBIJE!

Freedom,

I think I speak for most Albanians when I say that we are fully behind Vojvodina's quest for independence. When the time is right we will support you with experienced troops just as we did for our great neighbor Croatia.

Why are the serbs the only ones being blamed for everything?It was the Croatians and the muslims 2.not 2 mention the americans should have just stopped interferring with us.
but Radovan didn't kill them.
it was other serbs.
he is basically being wronglyfully accused.
but it wasn't just the serbs.in other words..croatians,muslims, and serbs.we all killed each other.Long live SERBIA!!

If u want to know the reason y he has been hiding for the past 12 years ... its because a) all of the serb accused have been killed ex. milosevic , babic or b) given ridiculus sentences compared to their bosnian or albanian counterparts ex. tadic 20 years in prison naser oric 3.
There is also no way for him to prove his innocence when it is a american based court created to persucute serbs. Ex. Oric killed over 3000 serbs but was aquitted of all crimes ... Haradinaj commander of kla orchestrated mass murders of serbs and cleansing of serbs yet was also aquitted of all crimes ...so ask urself y he didnt want to give him up this whole time and y we dont ever want to see mladic captured

as for your "experienced troops" helping to liberate northern Serbia from Serbia (!)...

let me tell you, I have not read such a funny comment for a longer period! that bunch of chicken-thieves is not threat to anyone in the balkans, except unarmed civilians, women and children.

as for the alleged record of Serbs testifying against Dr. Karadzic:

you will even find a Serb who will testify he saw Dr.Karadzic shooting J.F.K. - it´s all just a question of money, my dear.

having experienced how weak the "chain of evidence" against Slobodan Milosevic was, I can hardly imagine that this kangaroo-court will achieve anything, except prolonging the function of denouncing Serbia and the Serbs in general. that´s probably the main reason, why the serbian "government" sold him to the west! remember, the mandate for the socalled "ICTY" is running out, and now they will of course be stating that it has to be extended in order to exercise "justice"...

Poor guy, I feel so sorry for him. Why does he deserve this? For defending Serbs for Izetbegovic and his quest for a state dominated by Muslims and Sharia Law. Read recent Srdja Trifkovic article for a balanced history from Chronicles: American History
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=673

i heard the news this morning that betting companies have oppened with huge odds on Karadzic dying from a mysterious illnes just days before the final verdict, and Serbia becoming the most democratic nation in the world!!

This really is a big piece of news! 2008 has seen the trials of three of some of the most Balkan personalities of the 90's, it would be interesting to see how this one closes.

to Jovan,

Our discussion is getting very interesting despite the diametrically opposite views we have for what constitutes an evidence and who's about to go after it.
Frankly speaking, I am not an ICJ official and I am not an expert in judiciary to come up with evidence of war crimes immediately just becasue my dear Serbian friend is asking that from me. BUT, Srebrenica, Vukovar were not invented out of the thin air, dear Jovan. There must be an architect behind all of this. The former president of Republika Srpska seems to be charged with the accusations from the Hague Tribunal (with all the reservations I have toward this institution).
At the end of the day, I dont really mind whether Mlladic and the rest will be arrested tomorrow: (at least in my opinion) this is not a trade off for the victims in Bosnia.
Other than that, I am really trying to understand you, ang giving my own opinion as well (its up to you if u want to pay attention to it or just label it "stupid").

funny..imagine all those he treated as a doctor while "undercover" (doctor death, baby)hahahaha
Nah guys don't worry, karadic will "die" before verdict will be announced and hide again - in Russia. Just like milosevic.

answer to vjosa:

"Our discussion is getting very interesting despite the diametrically opposite views we have for what constitutes an evidence and who's about to go after it."

if your view in regard to simple juristic questions is welcome, if you want to unveil it here.

"Frankly speaking, I am not an ICJ official and I am not an expert in judiciary to come up with evidence of war crimes immediately just becasue my dear Serbian friend is asking that from me."

you don´t have to be an legal expert to know that in war times all of these parties, be it the bosnian Croats, the bosnian Muslims or the bosnian Serbs certainly have not been so naive to write down orders that could be interpreted as "genocidal" etc.

I´d be very suspicious if those ICTY-jurists would come up with something like that!
so, I expect it to be highly improbable that there is any evidence for these crimes allegedly comitted by Dr. R. Karadzic.

individual war crimes are a common thing in every armed conflict, that´s nothing new.

but trying to link them up to some person "on top"... I think that´s rather laughable.

" BUT, Srebrenica, Vukovar were not invented out of the thin air, dear Jovan."

of course not, they were serbian inhabited villages long before there even was something like a state called Yugoslavia...

but, yeah, I know what you wanted to say.
at least Srebrenica was not invented out of thin air, you are quite right.
it was the result of Mr. Oric´s killing spree. you´ve certainly read that his muslim hero-fighters killed thousands of women and children, coming from and fleeing back to a socalled " UN safe haven " that was respected by the Serbs for more than three years until they were fed up with it.


"There must be an architect behind all of this."

perhaps it´s the "flying spaghetti monster"?

"The former president of Republika Srpska seems to be charged with the accusations from the Hague Tribunal (with all the reservations I have toward this institution)."

he seems to be it, yes.
why do you have reservations, and furthermore, what kind of reservations are that?

as a sidenote: " the hague " is quite controversial, from a legal standpoint. it´s a socalled ad-hoc court, you can check it on the web.

"At the end of the day, I dont really mind whether Mlladic and the rest will be arrested tomorrow: (at least in my opinion) this is not a trade off for the victims in Bosnia."

Mladic is written with only one L! why are Albanians writing almost everything with two L´s??? must have something to do with your language, though.

"Other than that, I am really trying to understand you, ang giving my own opinion as well (its up to you if u want to pay attention to it or just label it "stupid")."

I am always open for reasonable argumentation. there´s no doubt about that.

but what I call stupid is if some albanian kid is dreaming about "experienced troops" helping Vojvodina against Serbia...

is it really necessary to explain that? I mean, that kid is expressing his desperation through rambo-phrases like the above mentioned.

and also stupid is it, to on and on refer to Noel Malcolm, who, frankly said, is no serios source of information, since he is, or at least was on the albanian pay-role, so that disqualifies him, definitely.

or those smart kids, trying to "prove" their "illyrian ancestry" by referring to some Encyclopedia Britannica editions from 80 years ago... although it was just the Albanians´ friends, the US-americans ( archeologists and historians from the University of Chicago ) who declared the illyrian theory of albanian descent as outdated, in the late 80´s

ignoring facts, and denying everything that doesn´t fit into the own narrow-minded world - I mean, that´s simply stupid, isn´t it?

to make if clear, I have nothing against Albanians in general, I even know some. so even those always reiterated accusations of me being racist , since the Kosovo-issue is in no was related to racial questions - are also plain and simple: stupid.

last but not least: the "trade" you mentioned...
of course all of it is a trade...that´s politics. or do you believe that it is coincedentally NOW, that Karadzic was captured? of course that´s something I cannot prove, but I am convinced that he was simply let down.

My Dear Friends. I read your comments there is nothing much to say everyone has right to tell his opinion.

But never dont forget what non Serbian and Greek people suffered in Balkans since 1912. Albanians and Bosnians suffered the most from Serbian Regime.

And now is the end of the game, world saw the true in Balkans, world did not sleep this time and justice will triumph.

About time at least he will get some justice undeserved. Not like his evil policies inflicted on 10s of thousands murdered tortured starved ethnic cleansed raped children woman men by his evil doing. Also the millions living how suffer to this day because of him and his evil policies.

This is not enough for serbia to
Join EU .
Serbia must recognize kosovo as
independent state en then is good to go.

FINALLY! One down, one to go and there then is NO reason why Serbia should not be considered for entry into the EU, along with Bosnia.

Does not suprise me a bit, cause they knew all along where he was. The protector all of sudden becomes a turcoat. wow, come on guys tell us in which Hotel is Mladic?

A great day for Serbia and a better day for Bosniaks, Croats and Kosovars who now have some hope of justice. When the Serb people realise the awful things that were done in their name, the nation should change for the better.

sad to see how the kangaroo-court will be boasting about "justice"...

funny to see our albanian friends here writing comments under american or at least english-sounding nick-names - in order to create the impression as if anybody in the states would care about it. :)

to Adrian:

on what basis are you calling Karadzic and Mladic criminals?

I mean, you don´t simply let the mainstream-media impose their deranged views on you, do you?

I´m afraid, Mr. Clinton could be called a criminal and Bushie, too.
they are real criminals, but Karadzic and Mladic???

seems like a whole bunch of B92-readers have no own opinion...or they were reading manipulated "news" for too long!

This is wonderful news. I hope it proves to be productive for Serbia and that there isn't a counterproductive reaction by drunken mobs in Belgrade.

If this is true, it is a very shameful day for all Serbs in Serbia and around the world. A man that protected the Serbs from being cleansed has been backstabbed. Nobody is arresting Americans and others for waging war on other nations, but when it comes to the Serbian army, they need to be punished. The message is: "If you are Serbian, you have no right to defend yourselfs, and if you do, you go to prison".

Very, very racist!

KOSOVO IS SERBIAN
MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIAN

Excellent. Next is Mladic. Had you done it before Kosovo would still be in Serbia. Kostunica is to blame!!!

Just this minute i heard the news on BBC and wanted to be the first person to write in! but b-92 beat me to it. great day for us, great day. i won't say anything else at the moment. cannot wait to see him on trial at the hague.

he owes my frnd Fehim millions of dollars (our civil case in NY) and he owes the world a lot, a whole lot...

thirteen years we have waited for this day!

great day!!!

roberto-frisco

This goes to show what a charade the Serbian govts have been playing for years. They knew where he and Mladic was a long time ago. When political will was there, Karadzic was arrested immediately. Lets hope Mladic follows him closely behind to the Hague and this shameful theatre comes to an end.

Nice done.
It was the smartest move Serbia has done in years. Lets all hope that this will mean a new era of peace for all of us living in the Balkans. Destabilization is good to none of us. Nice done.

Many of us, who love Serbia and the Serbs have been waiting since long time for this news.
It has arrived.
Volim te Srbijo!

Good news for Serbia. Now they will only have to "find" the other criminal too!

Good news, now it is time for prosecutor to prove he is guilty and not only that. This guy must tell the whole world the truth on state-sponsored genocide from Serbs to Bosnians sometimes from Bosnians to Serbs (in any case revenge on the innocent is a crime as well!). However,to those who think that Serbia will join EU immediately or will gain Kosovo: guys this is wishful thinking. EU will not lower it standards for Serbia or Albania or Montenegro. As for Kosovo: try to conquer it: 7 million Albanians in Balkans united will defend it now and forever

Boy oh boy, this goes like that:

"We don't know where the fugitives are" => "Karadzic captured" => International pressure on Serbia is a positive thing for justice! So let's keep on that way and impose on Serbia some more dark days.

Great news! It is amazing just how soon after Kostunica goes and a new intelligence chief is appointed that this happens. Rather confirms what everyone suspected about the former PM. The sad thing is that his decision to protect Karadzic and Mladic probably ensured the loss of Kosovo. I hope he (and other nationalists) feels it was worth it!

Disgusting. Tadic and Dacic should be tried for treason. While Nasir Oric and Haradinaj walk free they send more Serbs to this political kangaroo court? Truly dispicable.

FINALLY!!!

Now Serbia must go after Ratko Mladic.

GREAT NEWS! Serbia has taken one giant leap forward. Though I have to admit, I would have thought Mladic would have been found first as everyone seemed to have forgotten Karadzic. Still, I am very pleased for the outcome and very pleased that there is one less person holding all of Serbia hostage.

This is a great day for everyone. No doubt had serbia complied with ICTY much earlier, Kosovo would still be part of serbia. Serbs may see this as great shame, but shame s only in not doing it.

Committing genocide in name of defense fools noone. instead those actions in itself bring shame.

Shame on you!! U did favor to muslims!! Just remember what they did to us for all this years!!!

yesterday:
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=07&dd=20&nav_id=52053

good job

Good news, now it is time for prosecutor to prove he is guilty and not only that. This guy must tell the whole world the truth on state-sponsored genocide from Serbs to Bosnians sometimes from Bosnians to Serbs (in any case revenge on the innocent is a crime as well!). However,to those who think that Serbia will join EU immediately or will gain Kosovo: guys this is wishful thinking. EU will not lower it standards for Serbia or Albania or Montenegro. As for Kosovo: try to conquer it: 7 million Albanians in Balkans united will defend it now and forever

Justice is very sweet.

So when can we can we expect George W Bush and Tony Blair be sitting in the Hague to account for their crmes for the illegal bombing of YU in '99 and the subsequent illegal invasion of Iraq which has cost over a million Iraqi lives as well as the numerous human rights abuses that have and are continuing to go on in numerous secret CIA camps in Iraq and beyond.

If we are to have any semblace of justice, let those on all sides who have committed henious crimes be held accountable, Karadzic, Mladic, Haradinaj and Thaci included.

This is not surprising at all. The sell-outs are in power and Serbia is for sale - all of it for a nice bag of carrots straight from Solana's garden. Oh, and a couple of French Villas for a select few!

As normal, he will be found either guilty or dead.

Look who the interior minister is when Karadzic is arrested. Maybe for Ivica Dacic's next trick he'll rape Milosevic's widow.

This is the sign that finally this Vlada has a politial cohesion about important state issues. As far as Mr Karadzic is concerned there will be nothing new to be heard from him in the Hague: we know very well that genocide has been declared, so what can he add to that? Most important is that Serbia is coming back onto stage as a leading factor in the Balkans.

What else do you expect from a Serbian government that would make the Nazi sympathizers look good. I mean, Serbia is pretty much run by those who do what the Americans tell them to do. They've sold Kosovo, and they've sold Karadzic. It's amusing how the man from the Tribunal says the victim's families are going to get justice. What about all those Serbian victims whose organs were harvested by the Albanians and sold to people across the world? I guess those victims don't deserve the same respect. The Tribunal is OBVIOUSLY anti-Serbian and biased, and yet, the Serbs just handed off a war time hero to an illegal kangaroo court. Serbia has sold its soul when it elected Tadic and company.

Congratulations Tadic! You've officially become a pawn of the U.S. and the E.U.

Can't you understand that the E.U will never let you into their club. No matter what you do. . .they'll want more. More demands to satisfy more conditions. And in the end, you'll have traded the soul of your people for nothing.

The E.U. is making a mockery of Serbia. They've:

* stolen our land
* supported our enemies
* set murderes of Serbs free
* turned a blind eye to the destruction of our heritage
* even bombed our cities and massacred our people.

And you still want to be part of them?

Shame.

It's hard to take this as positive news, when he's going to be judged by a kangaroo court. However, I do understand why it was done.

Nevertheless, everyone knows he is no more guilty of anything than Izetbegovic, Tudjman, Haradinaj, or Thaci.

Honestly, I don't see this as any step toward reconciliation between the former yugos, just a political stunt that moves Serbia forward.

peace

Time for justice, time for those victims and their families in Bosnia to rest in peace. God bles all the people from Ballkans who suffered under the Milosevic regime.

Stop the crying and treason claims when try to extreminate a race of people and you have uneducated people saying it was wrong to turn him in then they are just as guilty for those who claim good for him and Serbia should have done this long before you are guilty as well. Did both sides of the circus think of the those who have suffered on both sides for the ideas and thoughts of who was right and was wrong there are not winners only losers. Trying him at the Hague will not bring back the dead or correct the suffereing. You all should be ashamed and for that woman who told me a long time ago that who ever turned over Mladic or Karadic had no heart well lady let me tell you this you have not a heart. Just because you suffered at the hands of the muslims do not make it right for those muslims who suffered at the hands of the Serbs. Maybe when Gen Mladic does the right thing and turn himself in so we can put this nightmare away and maybe our children will grow to understand that violence and hatred toward others will never solve your difference. One day J.Trklja you will understand how others suffer when you lie straight to there face. Thank you B92 for allowing free statements and a place for those to debate in peace.

"@roberto, 21 July 2008 23:53

Civil suits in the USA are worthless outside the USA.

Nice try but it don't work that way, you're not gonna see 1 penny from this guy."
(ronald, 22 July 2008 00:16)

Actually, ronald, that is not entirely the case. we interviewed a law professor who was a part of the civil suit in the late 90s, when she was just a law student. the whole story is quite fascinating -- how they managed to legally serve him, how that "nice" ramsey clark (don't get me started) served as his defense attorney, even though karadzic never showed up in court.

the plaintiffs were divided into 2 groups: rape victims ("gender violence") and mostly concentration camp victims, like my frnd fehim, who was horribly brutalized at Omarska, as well as his wife. the latter were part of a class-action lawsuit.

anyway, the plaintiffs won a default judgment against Mr. K, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. and yes, my frnd said he would "share" some of the $$ with me, but i am not holding my breath. though he could at least help us with our balkan-related work, for which i am deeply in debt.

as to your point: according to our lawyer frnd, all we need is some court in the balkans to recognize the verdict, and attach K's assets, which would be forwarded to these victims of the lawsuit. while i don't expect it to happen inside serbia (in my lifetime) it certainly could and might happen in bosnia, inside the federation. so the issue is getting to the assets, and there are many, many millions of dollars of ill-gotten gains, i can promise you!

it is kind of weird, since we were just reading that "no competent authority in serbia has any information on these men..."

peace, robert-o

ps -- if anyone wishes to read the transcript of the interview, contact me:
robertoruss@yahoo.com

Once the new world order is over and the forced islamisation of Europe is stopped together with brainwashing provided by media this guy will be placed where he really belongs among the great defenders of christian europe.

God of Justice

Those of us who personally know Radovan Karadzic to be innocent both of genocide and of fomenting the civil war in Bosnia will at first be disappointed by his arrest.

However, take heart, there is no point in arguing with destiny. The trial of this defender of Serbs promises to bring to light the role of al Qaeda in Bosnia, the Muslim government's willing sacrifice of its youth for fanatical Islam, the U.S. support for the same international terrorists it blames for the 9-11 attacks, and the true root of the recent Bosnian conflict in the absolutely real genocide perpetrated against Serbs, Jews and Gypsies during World War Two. The holocaust visited upon them by their Croat and Muslim neighbours will finally come to light and the entire world will have the chance to weigh on the scales of justice the over 700,000 victims of the Croatian and Muslim butchers against the alleged 7,000 Muslim fighting-age males who fell with Srebrenica. Soon, the public will be seeing the photos of the thousands of Serbian civilians slaughtered by Muslim death squads striking out from within that so-called "safe area" that was nothing more than a staging ground for mass murder against the Serbs.

After this arrest it will become increasingly difficult for the Muslims and Croats to keep playing their false role as innocent lambs.

Radovan Karadzic never fled justice, he merely refused to submit to the biased court of victor's injustice disguised in a Kangaroo suit at the Hague.

I had the pleasure of being present in person when President Karadzic very convincingly explained the Bosnian Serb position of self-defence against insurgent illegal secessionists and their agressive foreign weapons suppliers. I look forward to seeing him tell the entire world what the Western media has tried to suppress and misrepresent ever since the fall of Srebrenica. I also look forward to seeing the U.S. government face the fact that it not only gave the Muslims the carte blanche that started the Bosnian war, but then also invited the Iranians to arm its local pawns in a twisted Clintonian repeat of Iran-Contra that proves that the difference between America's Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum political parties is nothing more than the minor variations in the way that they pursued their common criminal foreign policy in the Balkans.

Radovan Karadzic will cut through the lies about Bosnia at the Hague and show the world why the Serbian national anthem calls on the "God of Justice" to protect the Serbs. The real guilty parties will then become obvious to all fair-minded people, no matter what undeserved demonization and tortures the U.S.-EU lynch mob inflicts on Karadzic and, by extension, the entire Serbian nation.

So, the evil sheriff and his lackeys have brought our Robin Hood to trial... but the truth will now condemn them, and make him (Karadzic) the Dreyfus of this era.

Sincerely,

John Bosnitch
Journalist
john.b@imcnews.com

I fthe Serb comments here are any indication of Serbian attitudes, you just mde the case why Kosova needed to be independent and with its own army. It also explains why every Republic left you, Crna Gora included. You guys should read what he did and be ashamed of your posts.

I just notixed that on the German Spiegel this is - as expected - front page news with first photo. Some people calls him the Bin Laden of Europe.

This is Excellent news for the entire region, it looks like Karadzic tried to disguise himself as Santa Claus.

Mladic could be just a few days away as well.

Its seems that theres more to the Karadzic saga than meets the eye.

It seems that the US and Russians were protecting him. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-and-the-us-accused-of-secret-deal-to-protect-karadzic-401688.html

How long before he "commits suicide" too?
Any Serb who fought for his people during the war is now wanted for war crimes. Seems to me it is a crime to fight for Serbs and protect the Serbs.

If he is sent to Hague he will not get a fair trial for one and if they find that they cannot prove guilt then he will be eliminated just like Milosevic and Seselj is in danger of as well.

I hope UE pays a good money for Radovan Karadžić as they do for Milosevic.You should be proud.

Its a disgrace, mate Bill Clinton, Wesley Clarke, Tony Blair and so on Have to be tried before Radovan Karadzic absolute disgrace Serb forces..who are they manipulated by democracy(Money) .... EU death to it I say and all these Multi Union states....people use to say death to communism and fascism I say death to Democracy and western manipulation from multinationals...From a Realist

“I had the pleasure of being present in person when President Karadzic very convincingly explained the Bosnian Serb position of self-defence against insurgent illegal secessionists and their agressive foreign weapons suppliers. I look forward to seeing him tell the entire world what the Western media has tried to suppress and misrepresent ever since the fall of Srebrenica. I also look forward to seeing the U.S. government face the fact that it not only gave the Muslims the carte blanche that started the Bosnian war”

This is a lie. Bosnia set itself free from Yugoslavia trough a peacefull republican referendum in which most of the Bosnian population participated and whose absolute majority decided for independence (http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,975106,00.html).

The Bosnian War started just some time after this event, mainly by Slobodan Milosevic, Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic (http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,975723,00.html).

good job serbia! buuuuut that is not enough to enter EU you must fulfill more conditions!

stop this nonsense saying kosova is serbia and macedonia macedonian aru u to protect nationalist interests of those who are against albanians.
JUST ONE THING ABOUT KARADJIC WHY DID IT HAPPENED THE ARREST THE SAME DAY WHEN HASHIM THAQI WAS IN WHITE HOUSE WHY??? U better start thinking about the futere of serbia because Kosova is gone and has a bright future.

It may prove a turning point. Starting a war in Bosnia and trying to split the country simply because the majority of ots people opted for independance was a crime of its own. The Bosnian Serbs were in no way threatend by the independnce of Bih in the wake of the collaps of Yugoslavia. Instead of trying to create a peaceful BiH equalli distanced from warring Serbs and Croats, Karadzic and his followers opened the gate to hell.

A great day for Serbia! A great day for the Balkans! A great day for the democratic world!

A really sad day for ultranationalists and preachers of hate.

“To Dr. Radovan Karadzic, I wish you all the best and hope that you defend yourself with courage”

Well, I wish Karadzic a very long life… in prison.

Dragi Jovan,
FINALLY!!! Karadzic is captured.
I saw you were asking an interesting/ironic question to one of the Albanian wirters. "Were are your basis in judging Karadzic and Mladic as criminals"?. I guess you may find it just thousands kilometers far from Belgrade. 7.500 graves of Srebrenica are more than an evidence (which trembles a human being - if it be). I am fine with you if you want to pass for heroes Karadzic & Co. I really respect your opinion.Notwithstanding, there is a culprit that your country engaged in three bloody, successive wars that destroyed your pocket, your well-being and raped your national pride. Its a completely another issue how much the rest of the "others" in Yugoslavia were prone of the rapes from the "Dinaric Race".
Srebrenica is an evidence that trembled the mankind!

I must say, it is sad to hear some of the Serb's comments here about Karadzic.

This man going to court should transcend principals and rather been taken for what it is: a trial of a war criminal responsible for crimes against humanity.

I don't get why the Serbs here call loudest for Croats, Albanians and Bosniaks to be tried, yet cannot accept responsibility for the actions of their own.

On top of that you seriously downplay the role of Bosnian Serbs in the Bosnian War and inflate Croatian, Albanian and Bosniak atrocities. This man was responsible for many deaths in the Former Yugoslavia as anybody else, he deserves nothing more than trial and imprisonment, if you believe otherwise, than you are preaching pure propaganda to everyone here.

I say all war criminals should be tried for their crimes, be they Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Chenchyan, Russian, Albanian... there should be no preferences towards nationalities, though judging by many Serb comments here, that poisonous nationalism that destroyed Yugoslavia is still alive and well today.

Freedom,

I think I speak for most Albanians when I say that we are fully behind Vojvodina's quest for independence. When the time is right we will support you with experienced troops just as we did for our great neighbor Croatia.

didn't take the new leadership very long to implement their masters plan

Interesting news if true.

[sarcasm] It's about time the Serbian aggressors are brought to justice for killing billions of innocent people. [/sarcasm]

Why does everyone want us to be wiped off the face of the planet?

In the Balkans we are not even welcome in our own homes and for trying to protect our homes we are branded brutal murderers and war criminals.

Go ahead Serbophobes - finally "liberate" the world of us Serbs.

Shame on you serbian politicians u traited serbian hero!! You played hide and seek when he fighted for serbian people!!!

RE: Capture of Radovan Karadzic

With a pro-American coalition elected in Serbia and shaky at that decided to arrest a man who will more than likely be sent to the Kangaroo court in the Hague. Slobodan Milosevic was found guity of no international crime, the same fate awaits Karadzic who will never get a fair trial. The shame is the Serbian leaders who continue to foresake Serbia under tremendous international pressure from some members of the EU and the United States.

If there is justice, than Karadjic should be tried at the ICJ (International Court of Justice) where the US is not signatory, not the show trail called the Hague Tribunal. Most Serbs are more than willing to accept guilt if there is a proper trial-this didn't happen with Slobodan Milosevic trial.

How interesting. Kostunica is not PM anymore and they find this poppy-flower right away.
It is also not surprising that well-know ultras of this site still have the immoral audacity to defend him. Do they have a conscience at all?

It is indeed a GREAT NEWS!
It is even more amazing to read some comments from the people completely out of touch with the reality.
They are defending those who orchestrated genocide against innocent people.
Wake up this is 21st Century and anyone committing such atrocities should be charged.
This is a chance for Serbia to finally move on with the life and look into the future rather then past.

Oric runs free as a disk jockey, Thaci and Hardinaj are running the KLA mafia state and yet the Serbian government still capitulates to the Serb haters in the EU. Why?

When are the killers and committers of genocide against the Serbs and Roma going to be brought to justice? Oh I forgot, it's ok to annihilate 300,000 Krajina Serbs. It's ok for the Dutch to wink and nod as Oric murdered Serbs from a UN safe haven. It's ok for the KLA to murder anybody who is not Albanian in order to implement their racist final solution.

The EU and the Hague are jokes. They have nothing to do with human rights. They whine about Serbia while Italians implement pogroms against the Roma.

A great day for imperialism. A great day for hypocrisy.

"As for Kosovo: try to conquer it: 7 million Albanians in Balkans united will defend it now and forever
(Albanicum, 22 July 2008 01:44)"

your desperate rambo-phrases make me feel good! they show how weak you actually are!

let´s see how long Dr. Karadzic will survive in this political institution, called "ICTY"... let´s see whether they will give him opportunity to tell the world about the filthy western tactics the Romans once called "divide et impera"...

As mentioned on SerbBlog, will Radovan be given the chance to shed light on Croatian and Bosnian crimes?? Which probably greatly out number and out scale anything Serbia has ever anything done!!! If you doubt this and would like to know more know more checkout Byzantinesacredart.com/blog subheadings Croatia and Bosnia or regarding Kosovo, CZECH documentary STOLEN KOSOVO available on Youtube

Serbia, as of now you can bow your head in shame. You have elected the government you deserve.

Croatia has protected their people and they were truly war criminals and so has Bosnia. Albanians have successfully managed to get theirs out too.

RS and their leadership is owed a lot more from Serbia than what they got.

Shame, shame is all I can say.

I hope Karadzic will get deserved punishment and it will not happen like with Milosevic. Only arrest doesn't mean to much for the families and nations who endured from his brutality and inhumanity. Justice for all!

On 22 July 2008 02:34, Eagle_durres wrote:

"I don't understand your interference. Mind your business and get a life."

Ahh! Nice to see another defender of free speech in this forum.

To Ahmet and all the albanians this is an internal issue for serbia. I don't understand your interference. Mind your business and get a life.
(Eagle_durres, 22 July 2008 02:34)
I beg to differ sir. We are talking about an INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINAL FUGITIVE indicted for war crimes in another country (Bosnia)and hiding in the middle of Beograd for 12 YEARS! There is no internal affair. This is an international scandal which shows the true face of the former serbian politicians who were hidding Karadzic for all this time. The same politicians who were screaming about the ilegality of Kosovo's independence, were aiding and abeiting international war criminals. That's hardly an internal affair of Serbia. We as albanians are immediately affected by it. Kosovars even more.
Finally something is changing for good in Serbia. Better late than never.

“We owe him some credit for forging a viable Serbian state on historic Serbian land (which will soon be independent)”

Bout how Republika Srpska, the eastern part of Bosnia, would achieve this? The Bosnian Serb Army is gone, and Belgrade won’t send troops beyond the Drina anymore… and remember ther is Brcko and Posavina, which don’t belong to Srpska but to Srajevo.

“It will take many years before the Serb image will be restored to its brave, and heroic image as a defender of freedom and Christendom.”

Defender of Freedom and Christendom? Come on, man! The LAST thing Slobodan Milosevic defended between between 1991 and 1999 was Freedom! And about Christianity, well, remember that Croatian and Bosnian Catholics are Christians, too!

To the people who have posted anti Serb comments i would like to say, sitting in front of your TV and watching anti Serb propaganda does not make you a Balkans Expert!!

Checkout Byzantinesacredart.com/blog for more info concerning the Balkans wars Sub headings Croatia and Bosnia!! this might interest you and help shed some light on the subject, there is also and article equally good concerning the truth of Srebrenica!! and finally on YOUTUBE watch CZECH documentary STOLEN KOSOVO, for a start!!

Listening to westen propaganda without doing your own research then demonizing the Serbs is justs as bad as those Germans who blindly saluted Hitler!!

To all of you in this thread who try to portray the Serb wanted war criminals as innocent individuals…

If Radovan and Ratko are innocent like you claim, why did they hide for the last decade? Why would someone live in seclusion for all these years instead of going to the trial, prove their innocence, get this over with and continue a normal life?

People have done it before – they surrendered, proved their innocence and came back home.

I am in no way comparing Haradinaj and Limaj with Karadzic, but if they went bravely to Hague and proved their innocence, why can’t Karadzic do the same?

to vjosa:
"I guess you may find it just thousands kilometers far from Belgrade. 7.500 graves of Srebrenica are more than an evidence (which trembles a human being - if it be)."

thanks for paying attention to that sentence, I appreciate it.

but on the other side, it seems you didn´t pay enough attention to what I have written.
the reason is: it´s a fact, I find it sad, that Dr. Karadzic is caught by a corrupt regime, which has already stated that it will extradite him to the "ICTY", still a political organization, not a real court in the right meaning of that word. and, please would you take notice of the fact, that such an extradition would be violating the serbian constitution!

now to your misunderstandig in regard to my previous comment:

can you please show us all, where I allegedly have stated that Dr.Karadzic is a hero?

I´d be interested to read your answer, my dear albanian friend.

to make it clear, even to you, although you seem to tend more to misinterpret than to understand: in my eyes Dr.Karadzic is neither a hero nor a coward, he´s just a person of historical relevance. the same applies to General Mladic.

so, in addition to my first question, here´s another one:

could you please explain to all of us here, how you are coming to the conclusion that, just because there were found bodies of war-victims that this is automatically linked to Dr.Karadzic?

I mean, do you believe in evidence ( in the true meaning of the word ) at all?

then, my dear albanian friend, you should be able to explain that strange logic behind your conclusion.

before there is no clear and concrete and specific proof that Dr.Karadzic is responsible for any war-crimes in the bosnian war, you should be careful with your conclusions! you know, to be of any relevance, the evidence for a certain allegation has to be causal.

I don´t expect you to understand this but way back, the Romans said "Necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit" and furthermore "nulla poena sine culpa".

I will make it easier for you: if the "ICTY"-"prosecutors" can link Dr.Karadzic up with any organized war-crime, THEN you can talk or write about "evidence"... but as far as we know at present, they can´t.

but to state that just because there were allegedly comitted "war-crimes" in the vicinity of Srebrenica, Dr. Karadzic is responsible for that, is simply and highly nonserious, and frankly said: stupid!

So glad that this didn't happen under Ms del Ponte. Other than that I don't care.
Ajde SRBIJE!

Joe
This stupid Bin Laden of Europe expression was created by Holbrook one of the best and cheekiest servants of new world order.Of course this primitive media tricks have effect on such brainwashed Pató Pál type people. Reading your narrow minded comments makes me understand why Hungary is fully owned by certain foreign interest groups.
Anyway Mr Karadzic can rather be called Dobó István of the 20th century.

Nice tirck from serbian politics specially now when Kosovo declared independence and serbia wants to enjoy EU using Karadzic arrest there will be a chance meaby for EU.
But for Kosovo there is no chance to chage anything.

@roberto, 21 July 2008 23:53

Civel suits in the USA are worthless outside the USA.

Nice try but it don't work that way, youre not gonna see 1 penny from this guy.

To Ahmet and all the albanians this is an internal issue for serbia. I don't understand your interference. Mind your business and get a life.

this is purely dispicable from serbian politicians ... america makes us miserable to the ground and theyre still sucking up to them ... when will they learn to stay away from the real war criminals ... i just hope the one that gave out karadzic can never sleep again knowing what he has just done and i hope the money america gave him for doing that is worth it

"Does not suprise me a bit, cause they knew all along where he was. The protector all of sudden becomes a turcoat. wow, come on guys tell us in which Hotel is Mladic?
(Ahmet Isufi, 21 July 2008 23:49)"

Ramush for sure sent a few "thank you" letters to Serbian and Albanian mafia. Otherwise he would be in a big trouble.

This answers your question, Ahmet. Mladic is in the hotel with best hot-line to snake and pigeon. He is right now negotiating with the said animals what is the price they would "take care" about possible witnesses. As it is said in Russia: "долг платежом красен".

To Dr. Radovan Karadzic, I wish you all the best and hope that you defend yourself with courage, passion and dignity at the Kangaroo court in the Hauge. I hope that your words get to be heard all over the world, so that people are able to find out the truth of what really happened in Bosnia, and not the lies and fiction of the US, UK, Germany.

Like I have been saying! There is no bigger trader than Belgrade. Why wait!Please just recognize Kosovo too and stop playing games with the Serbian people we know its going to happen!! $$$$$ can do so much to make a country weak. My Serbian brothers and sisters do not call Kosovo a puppet state, when the biggest puppet state is Serbia. I do not codone what Radovan did, but I am sick of this brown nosing country called Serbia.

Given a choice I would rather have him tried in a Serbian court, but it was high time that the man handed himself over or steps were taken to apprehend him.

Perhaps the Hague is a kangaroo court but lets not forget that these are serious charges that should be answered. Each of us would feel the same way were we victims of his or Gotovina, Haradinaj etc...

No, a message has been sent about which course the government will take. This was the ticket (mandate) on which the current government was voted in. Anybody who told themselves otherwise was fooling himself.

Good news! I'll drink one tonight to mark the moment.

This really is a big piece of news! 2008 has seen the trials of three of some of the most Balkan personalities of the 90's, it would be interesting to see how this one closes.

#79

Niko I wonder if your opinion would also apply to your Kosovo leaders or are they innocent in your eyes?
(Goran, 22 July 2008 11:42)
Yes, my opinion apply to Kosovo leaders too!
War criminals commit first of all crimes against humanity, against all of us. The nationality of the victims or perpetrators is irrelevant. Nor the purpose of the war justify those crimes.
As per Kosovar leaders who went to Hague those who were released were declared "not guilty" for lack of evidence or because the prosecution had weak case (perpetrators were others). Being declared "not guilty" it does'nt make you automatically "innocent".

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him..
No that's not Sadam but his looked like Radovan.
No EU for Serbia till the other one get handed in.

The nature of the one sided anti-Serb hysteria in media outlets throughout the world is a masterpiece of propaganda of which Goebbels himself would have been proud.
Shame on all the so called 'journalists' who have engineered this despicable one eyed travesty.

Anyone who believes an accused is muzzled while on Trial at the ICTY has never paid attention to Milosevic's trial while he represented himself nor Seselj's current trial. The tangents a self-represented accused goes on are incredible and offer little in the way of evidence or revelation. Since Karadzic is said to represent himself, believe he'll spout off at every opportunity. Interestingly mostly Serbs choose to represent themselves which does slows the process tremendously.

Another point: it's easier to convict Serbs because during the war, the operated under the guise of the state, used its appartus, and did so believing they were right. Thus, everything is well documented and can be used as evidence in court. The Bosnian Muslims and Kosovar Albanians knew they were on shakier ground and thus resorted to more criminal mediums to execute their nationalist aims. When you operate within these strictures, documenting military assaults isn't quid pro quo, obviously. There's little solid evidence then that can be admitted into court. Witnesses are easily silenced, as we saw from Haradinaj, and the judges did mention this when delivering their verdict.

Finally, anyone who ever collaborated with Arkan is complicit in the suffering and of people throughout ex-Yugo and should have been strung up by his own based on this.

This could ultimately be to Karadzic's benefit. As I recall, Milosevic was viewed far more favorably after his trial than he was before. This will also give Karadzic the chance to set the record straight on what happened in Bosnia during the war. I'm sure that for these years he's been in hiding he has been also preparing a defense in case he ever did get caught. I read an interview with him from 1996 where he said he was preparing a file of documents.

There is no way that the Tribunal will give him a fair trial. From this point forward he will spend the rest of his life in prison, but he has been afforded the chance to set the historical record straight through the evidence he calls during the trial.

The trial of Radovan Karadzic should go a long way in setting a historical record that explains what really happened in Bosnia between 1992-1995.

Hopefully, B92 will broadcast the Karadzic trial live wall to wall like they did with Milosevic. Let the public see who has the better evidence. Radovan Karadzic or the Tribunal.

Return Naser Oric and Ramush Haradinaj for criminal trial to the Hague and stop RACISM.

i am shamed that i am serbian.when you betray serbian eagle serbian icon and serbian nation...

Serbs feel ashamed with a president like Tadic. What a sad day for Serbs all around the world.

Although this capture has produced mixed emotions for me, and although he and most Serbs have been vilified unfairly, Karadžić committed some serious errors which cannot be overlooked either by his enemies, or by Serbs.

We owe him some credit for forging a viable Serbian state on historic Serbian land (which will soon be independent), but he did a great disservice to Serbs with the 3 year seige of Sarajevo which forged world opinion against us. If he was interested in liberating the city, he should have planned a massive, well coordinated infantry invasion at the outset of the war. Instead he carelessly provided fodder for Serbia's enemies in the international press. Even as a teenager I sensed that this was an enormous strategic blunder that would haunt Serbian interests for many years to come--there is no free lunch.

Second, I and most Serbs I know feel that it is morally suspect to indiscriminately bomb a city. Serbs/Cetniks should only engage military targets. I personally know Serbs who remained in the city and were traumatized by this. Where was his common sense?

After many years of pondering this, I have come to the conclusion that Radovan is a sociopath who's time may have finally run out; every tree is known by its fruit.

It will take many years before the Serb image will be restored to its brave, and heroic image as a defender of freedom and Christendom.

It takes only a handful of empowered but INCOMPETENT individuals to plunge an entire nation into pariah status. But we must learn from this and not forget.

As for our enemies, they are just as guilty, but I am here to encourage my own.

I am proud to read many positive Serbian comments here expressing their dissapointment of the recent arrest of Radovan Karadžić. Especially Jonh (#40) made some excellent remarks that hopefully will all become reality. I just hope that the current Serbian leaders will realize what they have really done.

isn't it funny? most defenders of Karadzic are living outside of Serbia - Canada, USA, UK, Ireland - and guess, whom the majority of them supported with passion in the election debates?

I wish Karadzic a fair trial and a long and healthy life.

All criminals in the balkans should be put on trial. but unfortunately only the serbs are being jailed while the criminals from the other side are being set free.

i heard the news this morning that betting companies have oppened with huge odds on Karadzic dying from a mysterious illnes just days before the final verdict, and Serbia becoming the most democratic nation in the world!!

I feel this is the right move. While Haag tribunal is political and there are other ountries/individuals around the world that can easlilly be tried for war crimes, Serbia cannnot ignore it and needs to close chapter from its past. Its irronic that US and Germany - two countries that have perpetued more wars that any other country in history of humanity and each killed literally millions of civillians are champions of compliance with Hag war crimes court. Neverthless, Karadzic and Mladic have temporarilly brought bad reputation to the Serbian name and heritage by senseless violence and occupation of Sarajevo and events in Srebrenica. The future nationalistic crimes and violence can perhaps be prevented by bringing them to trial and having them face their deeds. They are not part of Serbian identity, may long live Serbia in all its greatness.

#24 very interesting link. I assume that as a spokesperson for the chief prosecutor they are referring to del Ponte.
It is more of a condemnation of Russia for blatant disregard for international law.
I guess if you believe the Serbs were about to arrest him in 2004 you could believe that the US sent people into Serbia to warn him---sounds like more I heard someone who knows someone that told someone else so it must be true.
#18 It would be difficult to try Bush for any crimes linked to 99 bombing campaign seeing that he was the governor of Texas at the time.

Another shamefull news against Serbs.

People out there that find this news great please try to find some truth on the real story behind the Balkans. look up the deeds of people like Naser Oric, Alihja Izetbegovic, Franjo Tudjman. I am not trying to convince anybody that Karadzic is an angel, but under the siege that serbs have been during this last war (and still are) would you defend youself? But lets talk about Bratunac nearbt srebrenica, Ask them the memories they have about the "visits" of mr Naser Oric and those guys which he commanded that didn`t even speak Bosnian, and wore green scarfs on their heads. The prediction of the "green way" of Mr Izetbegovic in the middle of Europe is taking shape and we are all to blame for it.

#79

Niko I wonder if your opinion would also apply to your Kosovo leaders or are they innocent in your eyes?

Hey Niko, it is obvious that you don't know that Thaci is also a wanted criminal, to me he's the worse one but that's my opinion. He's there in Pristina just because US needs him for their interests. This is what i call justice. Next time if i were you I would think not once or twice maybe ten time before writing.

Radovan Karadzic will cut through the lies about Bosnia at the Hague and show the world why the Serbian national anthem calls on the "God of Justice" to protect the Serbs. The real guilty parties will then become obvious to all fair-minded people, no matter what undeserved demonization and tortures the U.S.-EU lynch mob inflicts on Karadzic and, by extension, the entire Serbian nation.

So, the evil sheriff and his lackeys have brought our Robin Hood to trial... but the truth will now condemn them, and make him (Karadzic) the Dreyfus of this era.

Sincerely,

John Bosnitch
Journalist
john.b@imcnews.com
(John Bosnitch, 22 July 2008 02:30)

Your sentiments are echoed, but unfortunately Radovan Karadzic will not be afforded the same platform Slobodan Milosevic was. Any trial will be shortened and those words that will come out of Karadzic mount will be tainted.

A great Serbian Patriot , Draza Mihailovic also went into a show trial headed by the Yugoslav Communist prosecutor Milos Minic. Draza Mihailovic was clearly drugged and incoherent. Karadzic will also be silenced, but the truth can never be silenced.

Jovan,

Your comments in post #88 indicate that that you fail to acknowledge even the testimony of decent Serb military personnel. If you claim ignorance then I refer you to all the damning testimony taken by the Court in the last eight years. The testimony by Serbs against Karadzic is public record, but as usual you will devise some bogus retort.

Those who rioted in Trg Republike and Knez Mihailova show exactly why Karadzic should have been arrested long ago. And for Aleksandar Vucic to have joined them in their "protest" (it was hardly a protest, they destroyed and damaged a few of the outdoor kafanas and the most of the clay art display) shows just why he should not be anywhere near a leadership role. To think that the man who wanted to be the mayor of Belgrade only weeks ago would go out and willingly incite public violence is deplorable.

Is this what is meant when they say "Never sell your soul to the DEVIL".
As usual we have a impartial unbiased report by the UK media and press.
Enough said.

@#50 "Bosnia set itself free from Yugoslavia trough a peacefull republican referendum in which most of the Bosnian population participated and whose absolute majority decided for independence."

Someday I look forward to a nice referendum in Republika Srpska, where the absolute majority gets to peacefully choose their independence.

Who knows maybe there will even be another referendum, and this time the Serbs and Croats can gang up on the Muslims and decide to take themselves and their lands out of Bosnia.

We'll see how fair and democratic you will think things are then.

Why are the serbs the only ones being blamed for everything?It was the Croatians and the muslims 2.not 2 mention the americans should have just stopped interferring with us.
but Radovan didn't kill them.
it was other serbs.
he is basically being wronglyfully accused.
but it wasn't just the serbs.in other words..croatians,muslims, and serbs.we all killed each other.Long live SERBIA!!

If u want to know the reason y he has been hiding for the past 12 years ... its because a) all of the serb accused have been killed ex. milosevic , babic or b) given ridiculus sentences compared to their bosnian or albanian counterparts ex. tadic 20 years in prison naser oric 3.
There is also no way for him to prove his innocence when it is a american based court created to persucute serbs. Ex. Oric killed over 3000 serbs but was aquitted of all crimes ... Haradinaj commander of kla orchestrated mass murders of serbs and cleansing of serbs yet was also aquitted of all crimes ...so ask urself y he didnt want to give him up this whole time and y we dont ever want to see mladic captured

as for your "experienced troops" helping to liberate northern Serbia from Serbia (!)...

let me tell you, I have not read such a funny comment for a longer period! that bunch of chicken-thieves is not threat to anyone in the balkans, except unarmed civilians, women and children.

as for the alleged record of Serbs testifying against Dr. Karadzic:

you will even find a Serb who will testify he saw Dr.Karadzic shooting J.F.K. - it´s all just a question of money, my dear.

having experienced how weak the "chain of evidence" against Slobodan Milosevic was, I can hardly imagine that this kangaroo-court will achieve anything, except prolonging the function of denouncing Serbia and the Serbs in general. that´s probably the main reason, why the serbian "government" sold him to the west! remember, the mandate for the socalled "ICTY" is running out, and now they will of course be stating that it has to be extended in order to exercise "justice"...

Poor guy, I feel so sorry for him. Why does he deserve this? For defending Serbs for Izetbegovic and his quest for a state dominated by Muslims and Sharia Law. Read recent Srdja Trifkovic article for a balanced history from Chronicles: American History
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=673

USA Albanian

Well then it doesn't say much about the intelligence of most Albanians if they think that a region with 65% Serbian population will want to split from Serbia. Anyway, if Albanians send troops into Serbia (when they can eventually afford an army, because right now they don't have one and probably will not be able to afford one in the next 20-30 years), NATO will blow them back to the stone age anyway.

to Jovan,

Our discussion is getting very interesting despite the diametrically opposite views we have for what constitutes an evidence and who's about to go after it.
Frankly speaking, I am not an ICJ official and I am not an expert in judiciary to come up with evidence of war crimes immediately just becasue my dear Serbian friend is asking that from me. BUT, Srebrenica, Vukovar were not invented out of the thin air, dear Jovan. There must be an architect behind all of this. The former president of Republika Srpska seems to be charged with the accusations from the Hague Tribunal (with all the reservations I have toward this institution).
At the end of the day, I dont really mind whether Mlladic and the rest will be arrested tomorrow: (at least in my opinion) this is not a trade off for the victims in Bosnia.
Other than that, I am really trying to understand you, ang giving my own opinion as well (its up to you if u want to pay attention to it or just label it "stupid").

funny..imagine all those he treated as a doctor while "undercover" (doctor death, baby)hahahaha
Nah guys don't worry, karadic will "die" before verdict will be announced and hide again - in Russia. Just like milosevic.

Excellent news!
I sure hope all others will soon be aprehanded and prosecuted (Bill Clinton, Wesley Clark, Richard Hallbrook, Madelaine Albright....)

answer to vjosa:

"Our discussion is getting very interesting despite the diametrically opposite views we have for what constitutes an evidence and who's about to go after it."

if your view in regard to simple juristic questions is welcome, if you want to unveil it here.

"Frankly speaking, I am not an ICJ official and I am not an expert in judiciary to come up with evidence of war crimes immediately just becasue my dear Serbian friend is asking that from me."

you don´t have to be an legal expert to know that in war times all of these parties, be it the bosnian Croats, the bosnian Muslims or the bosnian Serbs certainly have not been so naive to write down orders that could be interpreted as "genocidal" etc.

I´d be very suspicious if those ICTY-jurists would come up with something like that!
so, I expect it to be highly improbable that there is any evidence for these crimes allegedly comitted by Dr. R. Karadzic.

individual war crimes are a common thing in every armed conflict, that´s nothing new.

but trying to link them up to some person "on top"... I think that´s rather laughable.

" BUT, Srebrenica, Vukovar were not invented out of the thin air, dear Jovan."

of course not, they were serbian inhabited villages long before there even was something like a state called Yugoslavia...

but, yeah, I know what you wanted to say.
at least Srebrenica was not invented out of thin air, you are quite right.
it was the result of Mr. Oric´s killing spree. you´ve certainly read that his muslim hero-fighters killed thousands of women and children, coming from and fleeing back to a socalled " UN safe haven " that was respected by the Serbs for more than three years until they were fed up with it.


"There must be an architect behind all of this."

perhaps it´s the "flying spaghetti monster"?

"The former president of Republika Srpska seems to be charged with the accusations from the Hague Tribunal (with all the reservations I have toward this institution)."

he seems to be it, yes.
why do you have reservations, and furthermore, what kind of reservations are that?

as a sidenote: " the hague " is quite controversial, from a legal standpoint. it´s a socalled ad-hoc court, you can check it on the web.

"At the end of the day, I dont really mind whether Mlladic and the rest will be arrested tomorrow: (at least in my opinion) this is not a trade off for the victims in Bosnia."

Mladic is written with only one L! why are Albanians writing almost everything with two L´s??? must have something to do with your language, though.

"Other than that, I am really trying to understand you, ang giving my own opinion as well (its up to you if u want to pay attention to it or just label it "stupid")."

I am always open for reasonable argumentation. there´s no doubt about that.

but what I call stupid is if some albanian kid is dreaming about "experienced troops" helping Vojvodina against Serbia...

is it really necessary to explain that? I mean, that kid is expressing his desperation through rambo-phrases like the above mentioned.

and also stupid is it, to on and on refer to Noel Malcolm, who, frankly said, is no serios source of information, since he is, or at least was on the albanian pay-role, so that disqualifies him, definitely.

or those smart kids, trying to "prove" their "illyrian ancestry" by referring to some Encyclopedia Britannica editions from 80 years ago... although it was just the Albanians´ friends, the US-americans ( archeologists and historians from the University of Chicago ) who declared the illyrian theory of albanian descent as outdated, in the late 80´s

ignoring facts, and denying everything that doesn´t fit into the own narrow-minded world - I mean, that´s simply stupid, isn´t it?

to make if clear, I have nothing against Albanians in general, I even know some. so even those always reiterated accusations of me being racist , since the Kosovo-issue is in no was related to racial questions - are also plain and simple: stupid.

last but not least: the "trade" you mentioned...
of course all of it is a trade...that´s politics. or do you believe that it is coincedentally NOW, that Karadzic was captured? of course that´s something I cannot prove, but I am convinced that he was simply let down.

My Dear Friends. I read your comments there is nothing much to say everyone has right to tell his opinion.

But never dont forget what non Serbian and Greek people suffered in Balkans since 1912. Albanians and Bosnians suffered the most from Serbian Regime.

And now is the end of the game, world saw the true in Balkans, world did not sleep this time and justice will triumph.