"Serbia will never trade Kosovo"

Trade Kosovo????!!!!

I trade my belongings that I have FULL control on them.

The comment "Serbia will never trade Kosovo" to me means the same as K-Albanian saying "Kosovo will never trade Nis and sorrounding area"

Remember Serbia HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over Kosovo THUS is pointless mention 'trading' business.

It is beyond imagination and pure shame how Serb politians STILL endouvour to manipulate some ignorant Serb civililans on Kosovo.

Mr. DPM Delic, I suggest you monitor the DS Party of Mr. Tadic as it seems they are loosing interest in fighting for kosovo and somewhat accepting the new reality.

Serbian people should check back history and remember those who died fighting to preserve kosovo province. Do you want these people died for nothing??

Boza 'dedi koza' is just saying the obvious. Any attempt to trade Kosovo would result in an immediate fall of the government and new elections. New elections would most likely result in the SPS being thrown out, with the Radicals and DSS getting more votes. A very good scenario actually. So as much as Boza has many minions in his coalition who are willing to trade Kosovo for EU slavery, they can not do it :)).

Cheers!!

Sirius Black

Kosovo recognition is not a condition for Serbia when it comes to EU entry, because the EU does not have a single, uniform policy with regards to Kosovo, since five countries have said they will not recognize Kosovo and two countries have (thus far), still not recognized Kosovo either (each country has the choice of whether or not to recognize Kosovo as an independent state or not, and since an EU power such as Spain has said no, then it's obvious that there is hardly unity over the issue).

In any case, it is unfair to ask a country to give up its territory for membership. They didn't ask Cyprus to give up the Turkish side, practically taking in a frozen conflict into the EU, why should they ask Serbia?

Unsurprisingly, it is becoming more and more evident that this coalition is a group of sell-outs and they have put priority in EU slavery rather than the preservation of Serbia's borders.

But I have faith in the opposition and people to do what is necessary. It aint over yet my dear Albanians - Serbia has been through more difficult times in the past and has always come out victorious.

Remember, our Irish friends have blocked the Lisbon treaty so your dreams are just that...still dreams. They have bought us a few very valuable years.

Just a little patience first.

France: No candidate status for Serbia in 2008

Denmark & Germany: No EU for Serbia until Kosovo recognition.

According to this guy, EU would be willing to spend billions and billions and billions on Kosovo, and then allow Serbia to just mess things up.

Whatever science degree he's got, it's not political science, I can tell you that much.

Quote "Besides, Serbia's eventual EU entry **will** be subject of it accepting the reality that Kosova is just another country"

The EU will never require future members to do something current members are not required to do.
That means that Serbia will not be required to recognize Kosovo, because the EU is not trying to force Spain for example to recognize Kosovo. That is an EU reality.

You can't trade something that doesn't belong to you. Whether people agree or not, Kosovo's gone and is now independent.

Besides, Serbia's eventual EU entry **will** be subject of it accepting the reality that Kosova is just another country.

God bless ...

No body is asking serbia to choose between EU amd Kosova, they are only asking serbia to choose between EU and selfisolation. Kosova is out of the game long time ago. So relax and make your choice, serbia or selfisolation?

As I see it Kosovo is not the issue the region is an integral part of Serbia and has been for many years now. Nothing and no one can change that fact a country's territorial integrity is the basis upon which nation states are built. The problem lies with the occupiers who have no wish to be part of Serbia but have occupied on Serbian territory. They have elected to seperate their government from Serbia and that is fair enough what is unacceptable is that they should claim Serbia's territory. Serbia cannot be expected to integrate, assimilate or appease a hostile nationalistic population of 90% and why should they? the Albanians have every right to their own customs, language and lifestyles. The Kosovo Albanians are as much an EU problem as they are Serbia's problem simply because Serbia want's it's territory but not the problematic population that currently occupies it.

In the current climate there is no hope of a reconcilliation between the Albanians and Serbs and frankly we don't need one. We are perfectly capable of respecting on another from a distance. However, the fundamental principles of international law must be upheld (isn't Serbia raising a case against Kosovo's independence) and the rights of people living in Kosovo respected. Serbia needs to come up with new proposals, they could start with a kind of Hong Kong model. For example, Kosovo Abanians have current control excluding the north, after the life time of the current intransigent Albanians and Serbs, lets say 100 years from now, the region reverts to Serbian control any Albanians who find this unpallatable can rest assured that by this time they will be european citzens and not Serbian citizens.

Of course Đelić says he won't trade Kosovo. He has to say it, otherwise the government would be instantly overthrown. But I don't trust him until I see some proof on the ground.

"Serbia forfeited the right to the territory when it tried to empty it from its inhabitants. Now that goal is plainly unreachable.
(village-bey, 21 July 2008 19:30)"

Yeah it's too bad that there is no justice for Serbs who were ethnically cleansed from the province for decades by Albanians. This cleansing in closed yugoslavija did not have the benefit of CNN to reveal the crimes to world opinion.

On another note, should Kosovo citizens obtain some kind of free movement agreement to work and live within the EU, perhaps finally most Albanians will finally want to start a "New" life on someone else's land and start to emigrate en-masse. I think it won't take much for Albanians to want to move since they originally came to Kosovo for purely economic reasons from Albania. Albanians do not have any true loyalty to Kosovo like Serbs--no history, culture, or monuments--NOTHING!

This new reality on the ground will be achieved with 25 years as most of the "intelligentsia" and young people will quickly flee Kosovo. Serbia will not have to fire a single shot again to preserve and defend her historic birthright!

Life is ironic sometimes.

CCCC

Well, no one is asking Serbia whether or not. KOSOVA belongs to albanians including minorities and not to SERBIA.
Today is a historical day BUSH -SEJDIU - THACI God Bless YOU!

Serbia cannot trade Kosova, because Kosova isn't theirs to begin with.

"Serb Allay," I find it funny that you, too, consider Kosova's independence the "new reality," which you believe Tadic is starting to accept. You're right, it is reality and it's time for Serbia to accept it!

"They have proven, using science, that Albanians have resided in the Balkans , including Kosova, for at least 50,000 years. "

to black sirius ( what a "cool" nick-name!) : you cannot trade with something that doesn´t belong to you, you said. and... you´re right!

but, since Kosovo IS ours, we won´t trade it either, so, enjoy your AUTONOMY, that´s all you have in reality, and be happy, but in the end, you live on serbian territory!

I get more and more the impression that the Albanians are so impressively being duped - they are told to be "independent" by their "friends", but as a matter of fact, they aren´t! the last say lies not with the Albanians, and there´s a reason for that!

now you may go on cheering about "independence"... :)

Serbia has an eye on you, since you belong to us! ;)

Peter Sudyka,

Had you read my comment carefully you would have noticed that I didn't mention recognition. I merely stated that Kosovo is just another country.

Besides, Serbia can not join EU until it fully cooperates with the Hague, so believe me no one is going to rush of their feet offering Serbia EU membership in the near future. But I am sure you don't care about that. Russia will provide for you :-)

God bless ...

B92, and Serbian people, who is asking you to trade kosova for something kosova its not yours to do whatever you think you can do, those days are over.

“Serbia will never trade with our southern province. Should, God forbid, someone put this choice before us, we will choose Kosovo. This is very clear,"
That’s a fair comment by Mr Delic. He and others have acknowledged that no one has put that choice to Serbia, nor is there a likelihood that that choice would ever be put to Serbia again. Serbia forfeited the right to the territory when it tried to empty it from its inhabitants. Now that goal is plainly unreachable.

Sirius Black

By Kosovo being "another country" according to Serbia, it would have to be recognized by them as one, you know.

By the way, I am Polish, we have little to do with Russia, I am not Serbian, don't know where you got that from.

Cedo,

You, Jovan, and the few others from the Serb camp can rationalize anyway you wish, but the fact remains that Kosova is independent now and will remain so. Albanians have lived in Kosova much before the Serbs arrived a thousand years ago.

Although you may not accept scientific evidence, National Geographic Corp. has been anaylizing the genes of people the world over. They have proven, using science, that Albanians have resided in the Balkans , including Kosova, for at least 50,000 years. However, I don't think that you are going to let a little thing like science change your mind!

Cedo..

We dont have any cultural heritagein Kosovo and you Serbs do? You never visited Kosovo and never saw anything, and history says it all. Albanians were there before Serbs got there in the 8th century.

Kosova is Albanian land, was part of serbia just because albanians were allies with turks and they lost the territories when turks left. Kosova is Albania land, you had a chance to keep it, but i guess you just did not deserve it, since mr milosevic thought that albanians dont deserve any rights and should be treated as cows.

You can't trade something that doesn't belong to you. Whether people agree or not, Kosovo's gone and is now independent.

Besides, Serbia's eventual EU entry **will** be subject of it accepting the reality that Kosova is just another country.

God bless ...

Trade Kosovo????!!!!

I trade my belongings that I have FULL control on them.

The comment "Serbia will never trade Kosovo" to me means the same as K-Albanian saying "Kosovo will never trade Nis and sorrounding area"

Remember Serbia HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over Kosovo THUS is pointless mention 'trading' business.

It is beyond imagination and pure shame how Serb politians STILL endouvour to manipulate some ignorant Serb civililans on Kosovo.

Well, no one is asking Serbia whether or not. KOSOVA belongs to albanians including minorities and not to SERBIA.
Today is a historical day BUSH -SEJDIU - THACI God Bless YOU!

No body is asking serbia to choose between EU amd Kosova, they are only asking serbia to choose between EU and selfisolation. Kosova is out of the game long time ago. So relax and make your choice, serbia or selfisolation?

Peter Sudyka,

Had you read my comment carefully you would have noticed that I didn't mention recognition. I merely stated that Kosovo is just another country.

Besides, Serbia can not join EU until it fully cooperates with the Hague, so believe me no one is going to rush of their feet offering Serbia EU membership in the near future. But I am sure you don't care about that. Russia will provide for you :-)

God bless ...

Cedo..

We dont have any cultural heritagein Kosovo and you Serbs do? You never visited Kosovo and never saw anything, and history says it all. Albanians were there before Serbs got there in the 8th century.

Kosova is Albanian land, was part of serbia just because albanians were allies with turks and they lost the territories when turks left. Kosova is Albania land, you had a chance to keep it, but i guess you just did not deserve it, since mr milosevic thought that albanians dont deserve any rights and should be treated as cows.

"They have proven, using science, that Albanians have resided in the Balkans , including Kosova, for at least 50,000 years. "

to black sirius ( what a "cool" nick-name!) : you cannot trade with something that doesn´t belong to you, you said. and... you´re right!

but, since Kosovo IS ours, we won´t trade it either, so, enjoy your AUTONOMY, that´s all you have in reality, and be happy, but in the end, you live on serbian territory!

I get more and more the impression that the Albanians are so impressively being duped - they are told to be "independent" by their "friends", but as a matter of fact, they aren´t! the last say lies not with the Albanians, and there´s a reason for that!

now you may go on cheering about "independence"... :)

Serbia has an eye on you, since you belong to us! ;)

France: No candidate status for Serbia in 2008

Denmark & Germany: No EU for Serbia until Kosovo recognition.

According to this guy, EU would be willing to spend billions and billions and billions on Kosovo, and then allow Serbia to just mess things up.

Whatever science degree he's got, it's not political science, I can tell you that much.

Serbia cannot trade Kosova, because Kosova isn't theirs to begin with.

"Serb Allay," I find it funny that you, too, consider Kosova's independence the "new reality," which you believe Tadic is starting to accept. You're right, it is reality and it's time for Serbia to accept it!

B92, and Serbian people, who is asking you to trade kosova for something kosova its not yours to do whatever you think you can do, those days are over.

Cedo,

You, Jovan, and the few others from the Serb camp can rationalize anyway you wish, but the fact remains that Kosova is independent now and will remain so. Albanians have lived in Kosova much before the Serbs arrived a thousand years ago.

Although you may not accept scientific evidence, National Geographic Corp. has been anaylizing the genes of people the world over. They have proven, using science, that Albanians have resided in the Balkans , including Kosova, for at least 50,000 years. However, I don't think that you are going to let a little thing like science change your mind!

“Serbia will never trade with our southern province. Should, God forbid, someone put this choice before us, we will choose Kosovo. This is very clear,"
That’s a fair comment by Mr Delic. He and others have acknowledged that no one has put that choice to Serbia, nor is there a likelihood that that choice would ever be put to Serbia again. Serbia forfeited the right to the territory when it tried to empty it from its inhabitants. Now that goal is plainly unreachable.

Mr. DPM Delic, I suggest you monitor the DS Party of Mr. Tadic as it seems they are loosing interest in fighting for kosovo and somewhat accepting the new reality.

Serbian people should check back history and remember those who died fighting to preserve kosovo province. Do you want these people died for nothing??

Unsurprisingly, it is becoming more and more evident that this coalition is a group of sell-outs and they have put priority in EU slavery rather than the preservation of Serbia's borders.

But I have faith in the opposition and people to do what is necessary. It aint over yet my dear Albanians - Serbia has been through more difficult times in the past and has always come out victorious.

Remember, our Irish friends have blocked the Lisbon treaty so your dreams are just that...still dreams. They have bought us a few very valuable years.

Just a little patience first.

Quote "Besides, Serbia's eventual EU entry **will** be subject of it accepting the reality that Kosova is just another country"

The EU will never require future members to do something current members are not required to do.
That means that Serbia will not be required to recognize Kosovo, because the EU is not trying to force Spain for example to recognize Kosovo. That is an EU reality.

Sirius Black

Kosovo recognition is not a condition for Serbia when it comes to EU entry, because the EU does not have a single, uniform policy with regards to Kosovo, since five countries have said they will not recognize Kosovo and two countries have (thus far), still not recognized Kosovo either (each country has the choice of whether or not to recognize Kosovo as an independent state or not, and since an EU power such as Spain has said no, then it's obvious that there is hardly unity over the issue).

In any case, it is unfair to ask a country to give up its territory for membership. They didn't ask Cyprus to give up the Turkish side, practically taking in a frozen conflict into the EU, why should they ask Serbia?

Of course Đelić says he won't trade Kosovo. He has to say it, otherwise the government would be instantly overthrown. But I don't trust him until I see some proof on the ground.

Boza 'dedi koza' is just saying the obvious. Any attempt to trade Kosovo would result in an immediate fall of the government and new elections. New elections would most likely result in the SPS being thrown out, with the Radicals and DSS getting more votes. A very good scenario actually. So as much as Boza has many minions in his coalition who are willing to trade Kosovo for EU slavery, they can not do it :)).

Cheers!!

As I see it Kosovo is not the issue the region is an integral part of Serbia and has been for many years now. Nothing and no one can change that fact a country's territorial integrity is the basis upon which nation states are built. The problem lies with the occupiers who have no wish to be part of Serbia but have occupied on Serbian territory. They have elected to seperate their government from Serbia and that is fair enough what is unacceptable is that they should claim Serbia's territory. Serbia cannot be expected to integrate, assimilate or appease a hostile nationalistic population of 90% and why should they? the Albanians have every right to their own customs, language and lifestyles. The Kosovo Albanians are as much an EU problem as they are Serbia's problem simply because Serbia want's it's territory but not the problematic population that currently occupies it.

In the current climate there is no hope of a reconcilliation between the Albanians and Serbs and frankly we don't need one. We are perfectly capable of respecting on another from a distance. However, the fundamental principles of international law must be upheld (isn't Serbia raising a case against Kosovo's independence) and the rights of people living in Kosovo respected. Serbia needs to come up with new proposals, they could start with a kind of Hong Kong model. For example, Kosovo Abanians have current control excluding the north, after the life time of the current intransigent Albanians and Serbs, lets say 100 years from now, the region reverts to Serbian control any Albanians who find this unpallatable can rest assured that by this time they will be european citzens and not Serbian citizens.

Sirius Black

By Kosovo being "another country" according to Serbia, it would have to be recognized by them as one, you know.

By the way, I am Polish, we have little to do with Russia, I am not Serbian, don't know where you got that from.

"Serbia forfeited the right to the territory when it tried to empty it from its inhabitants. Now that goal is plainly unreachable.
(village-bey, 21 July 2008 19:30)"

Yeah it's too bad that there is no justice for Serbs who were ethnically cleansed from the province for decades by Albanians. This cleansing in closed yugoslavija did not have the benefit of CNN to reveal the crimes to world opinion.

On another note, should Kosovo citizens obtain some kind of free movement agreement to work and live within the EU, perhaps finally most Albanians will finally want to start a "New" life on someone else's land and start to emigrate en-masse. I think it won't take much for Albanians to want to move since they originally came to Kosovo for purely economic reasons from Albania. Albanians do not have any true loyalty to Kosovo like Serbs--no history, culture, or monuments--NOTHING!

This new reality on the ground will be achieved with 25 years as most of the "intelligentsia" and young people will quickly flee Kosovo. Serbia will not have to fire a single shot again to preserve and defend her historic birthright!

Life is ironic sometimes.

CCCC