"... that Moscow would support a Serbian initiative to seek the opinion of the International Court of Justice over the legality of Kosovo independence, he said that such an initiative was not in Serbia’s interests."
Quite strange the comments from the USA. Reading between the lines he is saying dont cause trouble and recognise Kosovo as an independent state.
This comes from a country who used war to stop its southern states getting indpendence, whos policies abroad caused 9/11. I wounder if he would have the sames comments if Virginia went for indpendence again?
The last thing the US needs is a flare up in the Balkans, the Iran situation is heading for conflict, the Afgan project is not going to plan. The Serbs used force then they would proberly get Kosovo back
I'm fully aware my current givernment is made up of a bunch of idiots, and I'm painfully aware the next administration, either McCain or Obama will have a good amount of nimrods as well. Yet Fried, like most people in our State Department, are constantly living 10 - 15 years behind the realities.
We heard the same schtick prior to the elections that Serbia needs to "not isolate herself", whatever that means. Now that the elections have apparently given a pro-EU government, we still have Mr. Fried-on-the-Brain making stupid comments for the sake of talking. I've disregarded mostly everything this man says since his comments have the same intellectual depth of a Star Wars prequel.
I am touched that all Serbian enemies are so concerned about the welfare of Serbia.
Please don't worry so much about Serbia and butt out. Nobody is asking for your advice.
Now, if only Tadic and co. were just as concerned. WAKE UP Tadic. They are taking Kosovo away and you are not doing much.
You will not succeed in keeping Kosovo unless you make it clear that you will fight for Kosovo with any means possible.
Albanians have made that clear and are being taken seriously.
I don't think Serbia will fight alone. I don't think that America will have the troops or necessary will to commit them there. Iran is a much more favorable war, especially when Kosovo will be an illegal war and they have already got one raging.
And just why should Serbia listen to a word this anti-Serb has to say? Fried has been a Serbophope from the start, and the US has done nothing but rape Serbia for the last 15 years, because of people like Fried. Serbs need to start listening to their friends, true friends. Fried, Solana and the rest of their ilk are proven enemies of Serbia. Actions speak louder than words. Russia is our true friend and protector. Whatever Fried has to say, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
Cheers!
Out of respect for real americans, Mr Fried, shut up!
People like you and your neocon bosses have transformed a former land of the free (USA) into a cage of its own making and your preach for not benefiting from free access to justice (ICJ) is just one more proof of it.
Justitia domina et regina omnium virtutum Mr Fried and not even the patethic gestures of this administration (like imposing to other countries to recognize immunity in front of the International penal tribunal for us military personnel) will prevent justice, cause law and justice, for the majority of the people on planet earth, is the only real asset and the only weapon.
“That initiative confronts Serbia with two-thirds of the EU, and I don’t think it is in Serbia’s interests..."
I would call this talks as Manfred Mann's "Bombers And Nightingales" when the Bomber dares even to give advices. How come that they judge what is good for Serbia and what is not ! What if the mentioned 2|3 of Europe next time say to give away Voivodina or something else ! Who the Hell they are to decide for you ?
Serbs must be strong morally , economically , politically and they urgently must revive their Army. Otherwise your problems will never end. The Anglo-Saxon world knows no humanity and compassion. First of all Serbs have to be reunited and Kosovo issue should be in a direct question determined though a referendum. Strange as is but Albanians all over the world know for sure what they want in Kosovo while the Serbs cannot boast the same thing. That's why every son-of-a-whatever you say dares to use such undiplomatic words like SHOULD and MUST !
Ignore the usual lies and ignorance from people like Fried. Maybe the US should take a good look in the mirror and realize that in November they also have to make an important decision that will affect their own destiny and maybe unfortunately the desiny of the whole world. Please check out the following link and see the Election 2008 video (it is so funny).
http://sendables.jibjab.com/
Maybe Albanians are small Americans after all. I am happy to see that bmrusila is back posting his comments.
Serbia has to find a way to the future, and not to cling to the past. I hope that Serbia will use every chance to stick to Europe, and that it won’t shut itself inside a cage of its own making,”
mister (whatever), your government is responsible for
making of our 'cage'.You did this to us and now we are left to deal with (for us totally unacceptable) situation.
I am not saying this to change the mind of a carachter like this because he is most probably just laughing inside while issuing those sort of 'statements' .
With saying this I aim at the Serbs who still doubt Amrican and EU good intentions: wake up before it is too late for you are being brainwashed and blackmailed to accept Kosovo 'Independence'.
It isn't necessary and it isn't the only way to materialise best future for Serbia.
With all these disbelieving Serb comments, the truth was still spoken by Fried.
Serbia's destiny is in your hands. Just like it was in Milosevic's hands and those that voted for him.
We all see the results of Milosevic's destiny of Serbia when he was in power and the decisions he made for all Serbia.
Now, the same is in your hands. Do you want to see the further breakdown of Serbia with the attitude you show or do you want this present Serbia to go into a better future with a more pleasant attitude and prospects for your future? All of you need to ask yourselves this question.
This man suggests to our beloved newly formed government to distance itself from nationalists and criminals but failed to name those nationalists and criminals. In another words Mr Fried suggests (if not orders) newly formed government (full of the EU obedient) to abandon Serbs from Kosovo and make hard efforts to integrate K-Serbs into so called Kosovo “state” society ran by the Albanian war criminals. Unfortunately he doesn’t stop there but continues by threatening Serbia if Serbia only dares to take legal steps against those countries that recognised Serbian province as an “independent state”. I just hope that yellow (or maybe red one) brigade, oh pardon, democrats won’t really succumb to this so obvious threat coming from some “democratic” USA-s clerk.
isn´t it quite interesting how this person is caring about Serbia´s accession to the european union? I mean... isn´t he far away from the other side of the ocean? =)
don´t worry, Friedy-baby, Serbia WILL bring back it´s southern province and it won´t be "two thirds of the EU" who will prevent that, but two thirds of the whole world who will support it!
unfortunately B92 is really publishing the remarks made by this person. but on the other side,...I don´t wonder - it´s B92! thanks for showing those two persons on the photo together shaking hands! it shows quite well WHO Tadic really is.
a last sentence to Fried:
the US should not cling to the past and look into the future, since their power is decreasing, and OTHERS will be the ones who will create the future...
Mr.Fried, you had your time, look into the future! :)
> The U.S. diplomat said that the Belgrade authorities had to distance themselves from, as he put it, “hardliners, criminals, and those who want to encourage violence in Kosovo.”
Careful what you wish for - that describes most of the upper echelons of a certain 'pseudo-state' that's been in the news lately.
> “We’re very sad that our embassy in Belgrade was attacked, but I understand the current Serbian government won’t allow something like that to happen again.
Tadic should've presented this clown with a guarantee for this etched onto a plaque made out of one of the bomb fragments from the former chinese embassy.
> ... that Moscow would support a Serbian initiative to seek the opinion of the International Court of Justice over the legality of Kosovo independence, he said that such an initiative was not in Serbia’s interests.
Odd that US is so against this idea - surely a law-abiding democratic country like it would be fully supportive of any initiative that would clear up the legitimacy issues behind the UDI.
Here's an idea. Seeing as the K-albanian camp keep saying that the UDI is in fact legitimate, how about you all start petitioning the US to not only withdraw it's objections, but to facillitate such a case.
“It’s up to Serbia to decide what it wants. It can go into self-isolation and be lonely, which won’t bring Kosovo back and won’t bring it close to Europe."
--
I thought that voting for the DSS/SRS was the only path to self-isolation? Now it seems voting for the DS can lead to the same path! Hurry up Tadic, your masters have spoken. You better work your way towards recognising Kosovo otherwise you'll lead Serbia into a lonely little hole out of the EU sphere.
That's what happens when you vote for a party without teeth. They will allow Serbia to sleepwalk into Kosovo recognition and then claim they tried to preserve it but failed!
However, I have an inkling that the people are not going to allow this government to get away with such a treasonous policy. It is becoming more and more clear that the policies of the DSS are the right ones. Kosovo needs to be preserved actively and not passively.
“It’s up to Serbia to decide what it wants. It can go into self-isolation and be lonely, which won’t bring Kosovo back and won’t bring it close to Europe."
--
I thought that voting for the DSS/SRS was the only path to self-isolation? Now it seems voting for the DS can lead to the same path! Hurry up Tadic, your masters have spoken. You better work your way towards recognising Kosovo otherwise you'll lead Serbia into a lonely little hole out of the EU sphere.
That's what happens when you vote for a party without teeth. They will allow Serbia to sleepwalk into Kosovo recognition and then claim they tried to preserve it but failed!
However, I have an inkling that the people are not going to allow this government to get away with such a treasonous policy. It is becoming more and more clear that the policies of the DSS are the right ones. Kosovo needs to be preserved actively and not passively.
This man suggests to our beloved newly formed government to distance itself from nationalists and criminals but failed to name those nationalists and criminals. In another words Mr Fried suggests (if not orders) newly formed government (full of the EU obedient) to abandon Serbs from Kosovo and make hard efforts to integrate K-Serbs into so called Kosovo “state” society ran by the Albanian war criminals. Unfortunately he doesn’t stop there but continues by threatening Serbia if Serbia only dares to take legal steps against those countries that recognised Serbian province as an “independent state”. I just hope that yellow (or maybe red one) brigade, oh pardon, democrats won’t really succumb to this so obvious threat coming from some “democratic” USA-s clerk.
> The U.S. diplomat said that the Belgrade authorities had to distance themselves from, as he put it, “hardliners, criminals, and those who want to encourage violence in Kosovo.”
Careful what you wish for - that describes most of the upper echelons of a certain 'pseudo-state' that's been in the news lately.
> “We’re very sad that our embassy in Belgrade was attacked, but I understand the current Serbian government won’t allow something like that to happen again.
Tadic should've presented this clown with a guarantee for this etched onto a plaque made out of one of the bomb fragments from the former chinese embassy.
> ... that Moscow would support a Serbian initiative to seek the opinion of the International Court of Justice over the legality of Kosovo independence, he said that such an initiative was not in Serbia’s interests.
Odd that US is so against this idea - surely a law-abiding democratic country like it would be fully supportive of any initiative that would clear up the legitimacy issues behind the UDI.
Here's an idea. Seeing as the K-albanian camp keep saying that the UDI is in fact legitimate, how about you all start petitioning the US to not only withdraw it's objections, but to facillitate such a case.
isn´t it quite interesting how this person is caring about Serbia´s accession to the european union? I mean... isn´t he far away from the other side of the ocean? =)
don´t worry, Friedy-baby, Serbia WILL bring back it´s southern province and it won´t be "two thirds of the EU" who will prevent that, but two thirds of the whole world who will support it!
unfortunately B92 is really publishing the remarks made by this person. but on the other side,...I don´t wonder - it´s B92! thanks for showing those two persons on the photo together shaking hands! it shows quite well WHO Tadic really is.
a last sentence to Fried:
the US should not cling to the past and look into the future, since their power is decreasing, and OTHERS will be the ones who will create the future...
Mr.Fried, you had your time, look into the future! :)
“That initiative confronts Serbia with two-thirds of the EU, and I don’t think it is in Serbia’s interests..."
I would call this talks as Manfred Mann's "Bombers And Nightingales" when the Bomber dares even to give advices. How come that they judge what is good for Serbia and what is not ! What if the mentioned 2|3 of Europe next time say to give away Voivodina or something else ! Who the Hell they are to decide for you ?
Serbs must be strong morally , economically , politically and they urgently must revive their Army. Otherwise your problems will never end. The Anglo-Saxon world knows no humanity and compassion. First of all Serbs have to be reunited and Kosovo issue should be in a direct question determined though a referendum. Strange as is but Albanians all over the world know for sure what they want in Kosovo while the Serbs cannot boast the same thing. That's why every son-of-a-whatever you say dares to use such undiplomatic words like SHOULD and MUST !
Out of respect for real americans, Mr Fried, shut up!
People like you and your neocon bosses have transformed a former land of the free (USA) into a cage of its own making and your preach for not benefiting from free access to justice (ICJ) is just one more proof of it.
Justitia domina et regina omnium virtutum Mr Fried and not even the patethic gestures of this administration (like imposing to other countries to recognize immunity in front of the International penal tribunal for us military personnel) will prevent justice, cause law and justice, for the majority of the people on planet earth, is the only real asset and the only weapon.
Serbia has to find a way to the future, and not to cling to the past. I hope that Serbia will use every chance to stick to Europe, and that it won’t shut itself inside a cage of its own making,”
mister (whatever), your government is responsible for
making of our 'cage'.You did this to us and now we are left to deal with (for us totally unacceptable) situation.
I am not saying this to change the mind of a carachter like this because he is most probably just laughing inside while issuing those sort of 'statements' .
With saying this I aim at the Serbs who still doubt Amrican and EU good intentions: wake up before it is too late for you are being brainwashed and blackmailed to accept Kosovo 'Independence'.
It isn't necessary and it isn't the only way to materialise best future for Serbia.
Ignore the usual lies and ignorance from people like Fried. Maybe the US should take a good look in the mirror and realize that in November they also have to make an important decision that will affect their own destiny and maybe unfortunately the desiny of the whole world. Please check out the following link and see the Election 2008 video (it is so funny).
http://sendables.jibjab.com/
Maybe Albanians are small Americans after all. I am happy to see that bmrusila is back posting his comments.
And just why should Serbia listen to a word this anti-Serb has to say? Fried has been a Serbophope from the start, and the US has done nothing but rape Serbia for the last 15 years, because of people like Fried. Serbs need to start listening to their friends, true friends. Fried, Solana and the rest of their ilk are proven enemies of Serbia. Actions speak louder than words. Russia is our true friend and protector. Whatever Fried has to say, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
Cheers!
"... that Moscow would support a Serbian initiative to seek the opinion of the International Court of Justice over the legality of Kosovo independence, he said that such an initiative was not in Serbia’s interests."
I am touched that all Serbian enemies are so concerned about the welfare of Serbia.
Please don't worry so much about Serbia and butt out. Nobody is asking for your advice.
Now, if only Tadic and co. were just as concerned. WAKE UP Tadic. They are taking Kosovo away and you are not doing much.
You will not succeed in keeping Kosovo unless you make it clear that you will fight for Kosovo with any means possible.
Albanians have made that clear and are being taken seriously.
I don't think Serbia will fight alone. I don't think that America will have the troops or necessary will to commit them there. Iran is a much more favorable war, especially when Kosovo will be an illegal war and they have already got one raging.
I'm fully aware my current givernment is made up of a bunch of idiots, and I'm painfully aware the next administration, either McCain or Obama will have a good amount of nimrods as well. Yet Fried, like most people in our State Department, are constantly living 10 - 15 years behind the realities.
We heard the same schtick prior to the elections that Serbia needs to "not isolate herself", whatever that means. Now that the elections have apparently given a pro-EU government, we still have Mr. Fried-on-the-Brain making stupid comments for the sake of talking. I've disregarded mostly everything this man says since his comments have the same intellectual depth of a Star Wars prequel.
Quite strange the comments from the USA. Reading between the lines he is saying dont cause trouble and recognise Kosovo as an independent state.
This comes from a country who used war to stop its southern states getting indpendence, whos policies abroad caused 9/11. I wounder if he would have the sames comments if Virginia went for indpendence again?
The last thing the US needs is a flare up in the Balkans, the Iran situation is heading for conflict, the Afgan project is not going to plan. The Serbs used force then they would proberly get Kosovo back
With all these disbelieving Serb comments, the truth was still spoken by Fried.
Serbia's destiny is in your hands. Just like it was in Milosevic's hands and those that voted for him.
We all see the results of Milosevic's destiny of Serbia when he was in power and the decisions he made for all Serbia.
Now, the same is in your hands. Do you want to see the further breakdown of Serbia with the attitude you show or do you want this present Serbia to go into a better future with a more pleasant attitude and prospects for your future? All of you need to ask yourselves this question.
With all these disbelieving Serb comments, the truth was still spoken by Fried.
Serbia's destiny is in your hands. Just like it was in Milosevic's hands and those that voted for him.
We all see the results of Milosevic's destiny of Serbia when he was in power and the decisions he made for all Serbia.
Now, the same is in your hands. Do you want to see the further breakdown of Serbia with the attitude you show or do you want this present Serbia to go into a better future with a more pleasant attitude and prospects for your future? All of you need to ask yourselves this question.
Serbia has to find a way to the future, and not to cling to the past. I hope that Serbia will use every chance to stick to Europe, and that it won’t shut itself inside a cage of its own making,”
mister (whatever), your government is responsible for
making of our 'cage'.You did this to us and now we are left to deal with (for us totally unacceptable) situation.
I am not saying this to change the mind of a carachter like this because he is most probably just laughing inside while issuing those sort of 'statements' .
With saying this I aim at the Serbs who still doubt Amrican and EU good intentions: wake up before it is too late for you are being brainwashed and blackmailed to accept Kosovo 'Independence'.
It isn't necessary and it isn't the only way to materialise best future for Serbia.
Ignore the usual lies and ignorance from people like Fried. Maybe the US should take a good look in the mirror and realize that in November they also have to make an important decision that will affect their own destiny and maybe unfortunately the desiny of the whole world. Please check out the following link and see the Election 2008 video (it is so funny).
http://sendables.jibjab.com/
Maybe Albanians are small Americans after all. I am happy to see that bmrusila is back posting his comments.
I am touched that all Serbian enemies are so concerned about the welfare of Serbia.
Please don't worry so much about Serbia and butt out. Nobody is asking for your advice.
Now, if only Tadic and co. were just as concerned. WAKE UP Tadic. They are taking Kosovo away and you are not doing much.
You will not succeed in keeping Kosovo unless you make it clear that you will fight for Kosovo with any means possible.
Albanians have made that clear and are being taken seriously.
I don't think Serbia will fight alone. I don't think that America will have the troops or necessary will to commit them there. Iran is a much more favorable war, especially when Kosovo will be an illegal war and they have already got one raging.
“It’s up to Serbia to decide what it wants. It can go into self-isolation and be lonely, which won’t bring Kosovo back and won’t bring it close to Europe."
--
I thought that voting for the DSS/SRS was the only path to self-isolation? Now it seems voting for the DS can lead to the same path! Hurry up Tadic, your masters have spoken. You better work your way towards recognising Kosovo otherwise you'll lead Serbia into a lonely little hole out of the EU sphere.
That's what happens when you vote for a party without teeth. They will allow Serbia to sleepwalk into Kosovo recognition and then claim they tried to preserve it but failed!
However, I have an inkling that the people are not going to allow this government to get away with such a treasonous policy. It is becoming more and more clear that the policies of the DSS are the right ones. Kosovo needs to be preserved actively and not passively.
> The U.S. diplomat said that the Belgrade authorities had to distance themselves from, as he put it, “hardliners, criminals, and those who want to encourage violence in Kosovo.”
Careful what you wish for - that describes most of the upper echelons of a certain 'pseudo-state' that's been in the news lately.
> “We’re very sad that our embassy in Belgrade was attacked, but I understand the current Serbian government won’t allow something like that to happen again.
Tadic should've presented this clown with a guarantee for this etched onto a plaque made out of one of the bomb fragments from the former chinese embassy.
> ... that Moscow would support a Serbian initiative to seek the opinion of the International Court of Justice over the legality of Kosovo independence, he said that such an initiative was not in Serbia’s interests.
Odd that US is so against this idea - surely a law-abiding democratic country like it would be fully supportive of any initiative that would clear up the legitimacy issues behind the UDI.
Here's an idea. Seeing as the K-albanian camp keep saying that the UDI is in fact legitimate, how about you all start petitioning the US to not only withdraw it's objections, but to facillitate such a case.
isn´t it quite interesting how this person is caring about Serbia´s accession to the european union? I mean... isn´t he far away from the other side of the ocean? =)
don´t worry, Friedy-baby, Serbia WILL bring back it´s southern province and it won´t be "two thirds of the EU" who will prevent that, but two thirds of the whole world who will support it!
unfortunately B92 is really publishing the remarks made by this person. but on the other side,...I don´t wonder - it´s B92! thanks for showing those two persons on the photo together shaking hands! it shows quite well WHO Tadic really is.
a last sentence to Fried:
the US should not cling to the past and look into the future, since their power is decreasing, and OTHERS will be the ones who will create the future...
Mr.Fried, you had your time, look into the future! :)
This man suggests to our beloved newly formed government to distance itself from nationalists and criminals but failed to name those nationalists and criminals. In another words Mr Fried suggests (if not orders) newly formed government (full of the EU obedient) to abandon Serbs from Kosovo and make hard efforts to integrate K-Serbs into so called Kosovo “state” society ran by the Albanian war criminals. Unfortunately he doesn’t stop there but continues by threatening Serbia if Serbia only dares to take legal steps against those countries that recognised Serbian province as an “independent state”. I just hope that yellow (or maybe red one) brigade, oh pardon, democrats won’t really succumb to this so obvious threat coming from some “democratic” USA-s clerk.
“That initiative confronts Serbia with two-thirds of the EU, and I don’t think it is in Serbia’s interests..."
I would call this talks as Manfred Mann's "Bombers And Nightingales" when the Bomber dares even to give advices. How come that they judge what is good for Serbia and what is not ! What if the mentioned 2|3 of Europe next time say to give away Voivodina or something else ! Who the Hell they are to decide for you ?
Serbs must be strong morally , economically , politically and they urgently must revive their Army. Otherwise your problems will never end. The Anglo-Saxon world knows no humanity and compassion. First of all Serbs have to be reunited and Kosovo issue should be in a direct question determined though a referendum. Strange as is but Albanians all over the world know for sure what they want in Kosovo while the Serbs cannot boast the same thing. That's why every son-of-a-whatever you say dares to use such undiplomatic words like SHOULD and MUST !
Out of respect for real americans, Mr Fried, shut up!
People like you and your neocon bosses have transformed a former land of the free (USA) into a cage of its own making and your preach for not benefiting from free access to justice (ICJ) is just one more proof of it.
Justitia domina et regina omnium virtutum Mr Fried and not even the patethic gestures of this administration (like imposing to other countries to recognize immunity in front of the International penal tribunal for us military personnel) will prevent justice, cause law and justice, for the majority of the people on planet earth, is the only real asset and the only weapon.
And just why should Serbia listen to a word this anti-Serb has to say? Fried has been a Serbophope from the start, and the US has done nothing but rape Serbia for the last 15 years, because of people like Fried. Serbs need to start listening to their friends, true friends. Fried, Solana and the rest of their ilk are proven enemies of Serbia. Actions speak louder than words. Russia is our true friend and protector. Whatever Fried has to say, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
Cheers!
I'm fully aware my current givernment is made up of a bunch of idiots, and I'm painfully aware the next administration, either McCain or Obama will have a good amount of nimrods as well. Yet Fried, like most people in our State Department, are constantly living 10 - 15 years behind the realities.
We heard the same schtick prior to the elections that Serbia needs to "not isolate herself", whatever that means. Now that the elections have apparently given a pro-EU government, we still have Mr. Fried-on-the-Brain making stupid comments for the sake of talking. I've disregarded mostly everything this man says since his comments have the same intellectual depth of a Star Wars prequel.
Quite strange the comments from the USA. Reading between the lines he is saying dont cause trouble and recognise Kosovo as an independent state.
This comes from a country who used war to stop its southern states getting indpendence, whos policies abroad caused 9/11. I wounder if he would have the sames comments if Virginia went for indpendence again?
The last thing the US needs is a flare up in the Balkans, the Iran situation is heading for conflict, the Afgan project is not going to plan. The Serbs used force then they would proberly get Kosovo back
"... that Moscow would support a Serbian initiative to seek the opinion of the International Court of Justice over the legality of Kosovo independence, he said that such an initiative was not in Serbia’s interests."
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