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Wednesday, 16.07.2008.

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Yugoslav Nazi uncovered in U.S.

U.S. national Peter Egner is suspected of participating in the murder of over 17,000 Serbian civilians during WW2.

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roberto

pre 15 godina

I am particularly pleased that this "former" nazi has finally if belatedly been id'd and i hope and pray that his US citizenship, which was acquired under false premises (lies) will be quickly revoked.

then comes the question: where will he be tried? serbia? i hope not, since i do not trust the justice system there, to say the least, nor the full and ugly truth of the war to come out in an open and democratic way.

germany? possibly. i'm not sure how international law works, in this instance, but since he is "alleged" to have committed war crimes within the german army, the german judiciary should be able to claim jurisdiction. they have tried so many other nazi criminals, altho not nearly enough. he certainly deserves prison for the rest of his life, if found guilty. and i don't believe for a second that if the US govt has gone to all this trouble, so late in the game, they would do so on the basis of flimsy evidence.

my personal pick, however, would be Israel, since my people (Jews)made up by far the great majority of the victims. i do not agree with many aspects of Israeli policy (including their reticence to recognize Kosova), but their justice dept surely knows how to prosecute nazi war criminals. some of my early childhood memories involve the trial of Eichman, who was executed in 1961 (or 62?) for massive crimes against the Jews.

as some other posters here have pointed out, there were many layers of collaboration w the nazis, inside serbia and throughout the former yugoslavia. hopefully this coming trial will be a venue to clear some of the fog over those bad old days and uncomfortable memories...

roberto/frisco

peter cardarelli

pre 15 godina

I am a aware of the horrors these men commited on the poor Serbian people during the War.Serbia was betrayed by so many of their own jew haters and Fascist Nazi supporters...I am not aware if Serbia has the death penalty or not.But,I know that if he were found guilty in Texas,California or under U.S. Federal Law...he would be executed ,as he so well deserves.Too bad it would be by needle etc... and not staved and naked in a Gas van after being beaten over and over and pushed into the vans that were full of excrement and screams...as his victims endured.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

first of all, I would rather see this man called a GERMAN NAZI, since he is obviously of german ethnicity, just to get the facts straigt.

2nd: don´t extradite him to Serbia, since the current "democratic" government wouldn´t give him, what he deserves.

last but not least: the glorious US of A were not able to discover that animals identity some decades earlier?

"the home of the brave"...as they say, right?

Joachim

pre 15 godina

The camp was formed on the left bank of the Sava, near the railway bridge at the entrance into Belgrade where the pre-war trade fairground (sajmište) was located. This territory which was, at that time, deserted, uninhabited and marshy, was several kilometers from Zemun and formed a part of NDH (Independent State of Croatia) territory, so the Germans asked for it to be given to them.

Most of the inmates were Serbian opponents of the occupation, as well as Serbian Romani people. The number of inmates is estimated at 100 000. At least 40 000 Serbian and 7–8 000 Jewish victims perished in it.
The camp commandant since January 1942 was SS Untersturmführer Herbert Androfer.
He was arrested in 1967 in Munchen and sentenced as an "accomplice to a crime" to two and a half years in jail(!), while his orderly, although also sentenced as "an accomplice" didn't serve any time in jail.
You can find more information about "Judenlager Semlin" on this site:
http://www.open.ac.uk/socialsciences/semlin/semlinjudenlager.html

Agim- Gjilan

pre 15 godina

As you all can see, the long arm of justice will get you, doesn't matter how long it takes.....Mladic and Karadjic should prepare....their time is comming

konstantin gregovic

pre 15 godina

RE:Milan Nedic-Set the record straight

Please note that Milan Nedic , the Serbian quisling leader during WWII occupation of Serbia did not give marching orders to the Gestapo which was a seperate organization run by the German, not Milan Nedic. Milan Nedic was not responsible for the death of any Jews and this should be set straight to all concerned including all Jewish organizations. If there is evidence to the contrary , such as signed orders with Nedic signature, please bring it forth.

Shame on all Serbs and alike who desecrate the name of the Serbian General who at a difficult time in history rose up to take leadership of the country split apart, split between political allegiances and the appaling holocaust committed to the Serbs, Jews and Gypsies prmarily at the hands of the German Nazi's and Croatian Ustasha.

There is no blood on the hands of Milan Nedic, only the Communists led by Tito who killed without trial or the rule of law.

lollee

pre 15 godina

I have to admire the Simon Wiesenthal center for their unrelenting work in capturing the last living war criminals. I hope that if this man is guilty that he atleast be put on trial. Whether he is old or not, that is irrelevant. Afterall, the Nazis didn't spare the old, the young or the sick from execution. The wheels of justice surely move slowly.

RE: previous comment about Kovacevic. If this kid didn't do what is alleged than why did he cowardly run away? Isn't the POINT to bring people who are guilty to justice?

vrnjak

pre 15 godina

Had this person been part of the Vatican-CIA sponsered "Rat-Line" he wouldn't be in this mess. Kicking the bucket in a more timely manner would have also helped in preventing his capture...

I know I shouldn't joke, but the hypocrisy in which justice is applied by the USA in international affairs is loathsome and should visible to all but the blind.

vrnjak

pre 15 godina

Had this person been part of the Vatican-CIA sponsered "Rat-Line" he wouldn't be in this mess. Kicking the bucket in a more timely manner would have also helped in preventing his capture...

I know I shouldn't joke, but the hypocrisy in which justice is applied by the USA in international affairs is loathsome and should visible to all but the blind.

konstantin gregovic

pre 15 godina

RE:Milan Nedic-Set the record straight

Please note that Milan Nedic , the Serbian quisling leader during WWII occupation of Serbia did not give marching orders to the Gestapo which was a seperate organization run by the German, not Milan Nedic. Milan Nedic was not responsible for the death of any Jews and this should be set straight to all concerned including all Jewish organizations. If there is evidence to the contrary , such as signed orders with Nedic signature, please bring it forth.

Shame on all Serbs and alike who desecrate the name of the Serbian General who at a difficult time in history rose up to take leadership of the country split apart, split between political allegiances and the appaling holocaust committed to the Serbs, Jews and Gypsies prmarily at the hands of the German Nazi's and Croatian Ustasha.

There is no blood on the hands of Milan Nedic, only the Communists led by Tito who killed without trial or the rule of law.

Joachim

pre 15 godina

The camp was formed on the left bank of the Sava, near the railway bridge at the entrance into Belgrade where the pre-war trade fairground (sajmište) was located. This territory which was, at that time, deserted, uninhabited and marshy, was several kilometers from Zemun and formed a part of NDH (Independent State of Croatia) territory, so the Germans asked for it to be given to them.

Most of the inmates were Serbian opponents of the occupation, as well as Serbian Romani people. The number of inmates is estimated at 100 000. At least 40 000 Serbian and 7–8 000 Jewish victims perished in it.
The camp commandant since January 1942 was SS Untersturmführer Herbert Androfer.
He was arrested in 1967 in Munchen and sentenced as an "accomplice to a crime" to two and a half years in jail(!), while his orderly, although also sentenced as "an accomplice" didn't serve any time in jail.
You can find more information about "Judenlager Semlin" on this site:
http://www.open.ac.uk/socialsciences/semlin/semlinjudenlager.html

Jovan

pre 15 godina

first of all, I would rather see this man called a GERMAN NAZI, since he is obviously of german ethnicity, just to get the facts straigt.

2nd: don´t extradite him to Serbia, since the current "democratic" government wouldn´t give him, what he deserves.

last but not least: the glorious US of A were not able to discover that animals identity some decades earlier?

"the home of the brave"...as they say, right?

peter cardarelli

pre 15 godina

I am a aware of the horrors these men commited on the poor Serbian people during the War.Serbia was betrayed by so many of their own jew haters and Fascist Nazi supporters...I am not aware if Serbia has the death penalty or not.But,I know that if he were found guilty in Texas,California or under U.S. Federal Law...he would be executed ,as he so well deserves.Too bad it would be by needle etc... and not staved and naked in a Gas van after being beaten over and over and pushed into the vans that were full of excrement and screams...as his victims endured.

lollee

pre 15 godina

I have to admire the Simon Wiesenthal center for their unrelenting work in capturing the last living war criminals. I hope that if this man is guilty that he atleast be put on trial. Whether he is old or not, that is irrelevant. Afterall, the Nazis didn't spare the old, the young or the sick from execution. The wheels of justice surely move slowly.

RE: previous comment about Kovacevic. If this kid didn't do what is alleged than why did he cowardly run away? Isn't the POINT to bring people who are guilty to justice?

Agim- Gjilan

pre 15 godina

As you all can see, the long arm of justice will get you, doesn't matter how long it takes.....Mladic and Karadjic should prepare....their time is comming

roberto

pre 15 godina

I am particularly pleased that this "former" nazi has finally if belatedly been id'd and i hope and pray that his US citizenship, which was acquired under false premises (lies) will be quickly revoked.

then comes the question: where will he be tried? serbia? i hope not, since i do not trust the justice system there, to say the least, nor the full and ugly truth of the war to come out in an open and democratic way.

germany? possibly. i'm not sure how international law works, in this instance, but since he is "alleged" to have committed war crimes within the german army, the german judiciary should be able to claim jurisdiction. they have tried so many other nazi criminals, altho not nearly enough. he certainly deserves prison for the rest of his life, if found guilty. and i don't believe for a second that if the US govt has gone to all this trouble, so late in the game, they would do so on the basis of flimsy evidence.

my personal pick, however, would be Israel, since my people (Jews)made up by far the great majority of the victims. i do not agree with many aspects of Israeli policy (including their reticence to recognize Kosova), but their justice dept surely knows how to prosecute nazi war criminals. some of my early childhood memories involve the trial of Eichman, who was executed in 1961 (or 62?) for massive crimes against the Jews.

as some other posters here have pointed out, there were many layers of collaboration w the nazis, inside serbia and throughout the former yugoslavia. hopefully this coming trial will be a venue to clear some of the fog over those bad old days and uncomfortable memories...

roberto/frisco

Agim- Gjilan

pre 15 godina

As you all can see, the long arm of justice will get you, doesn't matter how long it takes.....Mladic and Karadjic should prepare....their time is comming

vrnjak

pre 15 godina

Had this person been part of the Vatican-CIA sponsered "Rat-Line" he wouldn't be in this mess. Kicking the bucket in a more timely manner would have also helped in preventing his capture...

I know I shouldn't joke, but the hypocrisy in which justice is applied by the USA in international affairs is loathsome and should visible to all but the blind.

lollee

pre 15 godina

I have to admire the Simon Wiesenthal center for their unrelenting work in capturing the last living war criminals. I hope that if this man is guilty that he atleast be put on trial. Whether he is old or not, that is irrelevant. Afterall, the Nazis didn't spare the old, the young or the sick from execution. The wheels of justice surely move slowly.

RE: previous comment about Kovacevic. If this kid didn't do what is alleged than why did he cowardly run away? Isn't the POINT to bring people who are guilty to justice?

konstantin gregovic

pre 15 godina

RE:Milan Nedic-Set the record straight

Please note that Milan Nedic , the Serbian quisling leader during WWII occupation of Serbia did not give marching orders to the Gestapo which was a seperate organization run by the German, not Milan Nedic. Milan Nedic was not responsible for the death of any Jews and this should be set straight to all concerned including all Jewish organizations. If there is evidence to the contrary , such as signed orders with Nedic signature, please bring it forth.

Shame on all Serbs and alike who desecrate the name of the Serbian General who at a difficult time in history rose up to take leadership of the country split apart, split between political allegiances and the appaling holocaust committed to the Serbs, Jews and Gypsies prmarily at the hands of the German Nazi's and Croatian Ustasha.

There is no blood on the hands of Milan Nedic, only the Communists led by Tito who killed without trial or the rule of law.

Joachim

pre 15 godina

The camp was formed on the left bank of the Sava, near the railway bridge at the entrance into Belgrade where the pre-war trade fairground (sajmište) was located. This territory which was, at that time, deserted, uninhabited and marshy, was several kilometers from Zemun and formed a part of NDH (Independent State of Croatia) territory, so the Germans asked for it to be given to them.

Most of the inmates were Serbian opponents of the occupation, as well as Serbian Romani people. The number of inmates is estimated at 100 000. At least 40 000 Serbian and 7–8 000 Jewish victims perished in it.
The camp commandant since January 1942 was SS Untersturmführer Herbert Androfer.
He was arrested in 1967 in Munchen and sentenced as an "accomplice to a crime" to two and a half years in jail(!), while his orderly, although also sentenced as "an accomplice" didn't serve any time in jail.
You can find more information about "Judenlager Semlin" on this site:
http://www.open.ac.uk/socialsciences/semlin/semlinjudenlager.html

Jovan

pre 15 godina

first of all, I would rather see this man called a GERMAN NAZI, since he is obviously of german ethnicity, just to get the facts straigt.

2nd: don´t extradite him to Serbia, since the current "democratic" government wouldn´t give him, what he deserves.

last but not least: the glorious US of A were not able to discover that animals identity some decades earlier?

"the home of the brave"...as they say, right?

peter cardarelli

pre 15 godina

I am a aware of the horrors these men commited on the poor Serbian people during the War.Serbia was betrayed by so many of their own jew haters and Fascist Nazi supporters...I am not aware if Serbia has the death penalty or not.But,I know that if he were found guilty in Texas,California or under U.S. Federal Law...he would be executed ,as he so well deserves.Too bad it would be by needle etc... and not staved and naked in a Gas van after being beaten over and over and pushed into the vans that were full of excrement and screams...as his victims endured.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I am particularly pleased that this "former" nazi has finally if belatedly been id'd and i hope and pray that his US citizenship, which was acquired under false premises (lies) will be quickly revoked.

then comes the question: where will he be tried? serbia? i hope not, since i do not trust the justice system there, to say the least, nor the full and ugly truth of the war to come out in an open and democratic way.

germany? possibly. i'm not sure how international law works, in this instance, but since he is "alleged" to have committed war crimes within the german army, the german judiciary should be able to claim jurisdiction. they have tried so many other nazi criminals, altho not nearly enough. he certainly deserves prison for the rest of his life, if found guilty. and i don't believe for a second that if the US govt has gone to all this trouble, so late in the game, they would do so on the basis of flimsy evidence.

my personal pick, however, would be Israel, since my people (Jews)made up by far the great majority of the victims. i do not agree with many aspects of Israeli policy (including their reticence to recognize Kosova), but their justice dept surely knows how to prosecute nazi war criminals. some of my early childhood memories involve the trial of Eichman, who was executed in 1961 (or 62?) for massive crimes against the Jews.

as some other posters here have pointed out, there were many layers of collaboration w the nazis, inside serbia and throughout the former yugoslavia. hopefully this coming trial will be a venue to clear some of the fog over those bad old days and uncomfortable memories...

roberto/frisco