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Wednesday, 09.07.2008.

11:49

"Tadić to have key role in Kosovo policy"

President Boris Tadić will have the key role in policy on Kosovo in the next 3 to 5 years, writes Priština daily Zeri.

Izvor: David E. Rieff

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Kate

pre 15 godina

Mike - It is clear that you are not the same as the lower case mike because you write so much better, and your points are far more coherent and based on reality.

Lower case 'mike' - I agree with Nicholas Klinsman. What a nonsense to speak of Serbians as being the only aggressor, and having 'lost' 4 wars. Even in the case of Kosovo Serbia retained sovereignty and prevented Nato from having open access to its territory.

I would say that this was a fairly strong outcome considering that Serbia is one small nation that was fighting against the world's largest military alliance.

The split from Montenegro was amicable. It was already a nation, and when the federation broke up it made the decision to go its own way. The relations are still perfectly sound.

Peggy: "You can't have two sets of rules. All that needs to happen is for the Serbs to declare UDI and be supported by Russia, China and India and it cannot be reversed just like Kosovo. The UN didn't give the green light, only the US did, so Russia can do the same for the Serbs."

Very good point - as always.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

If the west gets away with partitioning Serbia along the ethnic lines, i.e. south Kosovo to the Albanians and north to the Serbs, then there is nothing preventing RS from separating from Bosnia. It's along ethnic lines after all. If the Albanians can get away with not being part of Serbia simply because they don't like Serbs, then RS can separate and be governed only by the Serbs because they don't like being governed by the Muslims.

What's good for the goose etc.
Before anyone jumps up and down and says this is different because of all the Serbian atrocities etc. etc., I say to them. Serbs have endured ethnic cleansing and atroceties commited against them by the Muslims and Croats.
Krajina to get their Serbian population back and then separate along the enthnic lines as well.

You can't have two sets of rules. All that needs to happen is for the Serbs to declare UDI and be supported by Russia, China and India and it cannot be reversed just like Kosovo. The UN didn't give the green light, only the US did, so Russia can do the same for the Serbs.

I have a feeling it will.
In the end Serbia will be the victor here.

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 15 godina

@#3 there is plenty to be decided still and the sooner you realize that the better it will be for albanians and Serbs.

We need to think in terms of win-win not greater Albania or greater Serbia.

@#4 Do you really think it's as simple to say Serbia lost 4 wars? You know it's not. The situation is more complicated than that, but then I'm sure you already knew that.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

nothing is irreversible, my dear albanian friends. you shouldn´t fool yourselves.

and Tadic knows very good, that if he betrays national interest, he will be personally responsible.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Tadic is probably going to push for a confederated Kosovo as Zeri claims, but will certainly stop short of recognizing its sovereignty.

In the end, this is probably what the EU and the US are expecting: Serbs laying claim to the north and influential (but not outright) control of the enclaves, but not doing anything to disrupt the Albanian sectors. Zeri is also right in that a frozen conflict is unavoidable, but it will be a frozen conflict along the same lines as Russia and Japan - they're technically still at war, but no one gives much thought to it.

If this materializes, I'd say it's a nominal victory for Kosovo's international backers.

Upper-case Mike (I haven't jumped ship to Team Kosova as the above comment by someone else may lead some to think)

Dardan

pre 15 godina

Zoran,

Yes the current leadership and many many more, we all did, we all stood up the Hitler of the balkans, we all stood up for human right, indeed we all stood up for the right to survival. Now if that is terrorism feel free to call me a terorist anytime.
Ps: Yet to hear any of you say thank you for kiberating Serbia from the clutches of Slobo and his gang

Zoran

pre 15 godina

Mike - "Albanians can and could have attacked places in Serbia but chose not to because they are not terrorists."

More Albanian propaganda. Convenient to forget what started the war in Kosovo in the first place - Albanian terrorism, killing Serbian troops, police and civilians.

Who was doing this - the current KLA leadership.

mike

pre 15 godina

Marko, I am not sure if Albanians are being brainwashed or Serbs ... which started 4 wars and lost each and everyone of them. Remember that there are 2 MIllion Albanians that want nothing to do with Serbia. Even montenegro rejected you guys.

So - lets all live in peace, get some decent jobs and have a better future for our kids. Worrying about Kosova and all the other lost wars is a waste of time but very SAD for the families that were impacted by Serbian aggression all over former Yugo. Albanians can and could have attacked places in Serbia but chose not to because they are not terrorists.

mike

pre 15 godina

Marko, I am not sure if Albanians are being brainwashed or Serbs ... which started 4 wars and lost each and everyone of them. Remember that there are 2 MIllion Albanians that want nothing to do with Serbia. Even montenegro rejected you guys.

So - lets all live in peace, get some decent jobs and have a better future for our kids. Worrying about Kosova and all the other lost wars is a waste of time but very SAD for the families that were impacted by Serbian aggression all over former Yugo. Albanians can and could have attacked places in Serbia but chose not to because they are not terrorists.

Zoran

pre 15 godina

Mike - "Albanians can and could have attacked places in Serbia but chose not to because they are not terrorists."

More Albanian propaganda. Convenient to forget what started the war in Kosovo in the first place - Albanian terrorism, killing Serbian troops, police and civilians.

Who was doing this - the current KLA leadership.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

nothing is irreversible, my dear albanian friends. you shouldn´t fool yourselves.

and Tadic knows very good, that if he betrays national interest, he will be personally responsible.

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 15 godina

@#3 there is plenty to be decided still and the sooner you realize that the better it will be for albanians and Serbs.

We need to think in terms of win-win not greater Albania or greater Serbia.

@#4 Do you really think it's as simple to say Serbia lost 4 wars? You know it's not. The situation is more complicated than that, but then I'm sure you already knew that.

Dardan

pre 15 godina

Zoran,

Yes the current leadership and many many more, we all did, we all stood up the Hitler of the balkans, we all stood up for human right, indeed we all stood up for the right to survival. Now if that is terrorism feel free to call me a terorist anytime.
Ps: Yet to hear any of you say thank you for kiberating Serbia from the clutches of Slobo and his gang

Mike

pre 15 godina

Tadic is probably going to push for a confederated Kosovo as Zeri claims, but will certainly stop short of recognizing its sovereignty.

In the end, this is probably what the EU and the US are expecting: Serbs laying claim to the north and influential (but not outright) control of the enclaves, but not doing anything to disrupt the Albanian sectors. Zeri is also right in that a frozen conflict is unavoidable, but it will be a frozen conflict along the same lines as Russia and Japan - they're technically still at war, but no one gives much thought to it.

If this materializes, I'd say it's a nominal victory for Kosovo's international backers.

Upper-case Mike (I haven't jumped ship to Team Kosova as the above comment by someone else may lead some to think)

Peggy

pre 15 godina

If the west gets away with partitioning Serbia along the ethnic lines, i.e. south Kosovo to the Albanians and north to the Serbs, then there is nothing preventing RS from separating from Bosnia. It's along ethnic lines after all. If the Albanians can get away with not being part of Serbia simply because they don't like Serbs, then RS can separate and be governed only by the Serbs because they don't like being governed by the Muslims.

What's good for the goose etc.
Before anyone jumps up and down and says this is different because of all the Serbian atrocities etc. etc., I say to them. Serbs have endured ethnic cleansing and atroceties commited against them by the Muslims and Croats.
Krajina to get their Serbian population back and then separate along the enthnic lines as well.

You can't have two sets of rules. All that needs to happen is for the Serbs to declare UDI and be supported by Russia, China and India and it cannot be reversed just like Kosovo. The UN didn't give the green light, only the US did, so Russia can do the same for the Serbs.

I have a feeling it will.
In the end Serbia will be the victor here.

Kate

pre 15 godina

Mike - It is clear that you are not the same as the lower case mike because you write so much better, and your points are far more coherent and based on reality.

Lower case 'mike' - I agree with Nicholas Klinsman. What a nonsense to speak of Serbians as being the only aggressor, and having 'lost' 4 wars. Even in the case of Kosovo Serbia retained sovereignty and prevented Nato from having open access to its territory.

I would say that this was a fairly strong outcome considering that Serbia is one small nation that was fighting against the world's largest military alliance.

The split from Montenegro was amicable. It was already a nation, and when the federation broke up it made the decision to go its own way. The relations are still perfectly sound.

Peggy: "You can't have two sets of rules. All that needs to happen is for the Serbs to declare UDI and be supported by Russia, China and India and it cannot be reversed just like Kosovo. The UN didn't give the green light, only the US did, so Russia can do the same for the Serbs."

Very good point - as always.

Dardan

pre 15 godina

Zoran,

Yes the current leadership and many many more, we all did, we all stood up the Hitler of the balkans, we all stood up for human right, indeed we all stood up for the right to survival. Now if that is terrorism feel free to call me a terorist anytime.
Ps: Yet to hear any of you say thank you for kiberating Serbia from the clutches of Slobo and his gang

mike

pre 15 godina

Marko, I am not sure if Albanians are being brainwashed or Serbs ... which started 4 wars and lost each and everyone of them. Remember that there are 2 MIllion Albanians that want nothing to do with Serbia. Even montenegro rejected you guys.

So - lets all live in peace, get some decent jobs and have a better future for our kids. Worrying about Kosova and all the other lost wars is a waste of time but very SAD for the families that were impacted by Serbian aggression all over former Yugo. Albanians can and could have attacked places in Serbia but chose not to because they are not terrorists.

Zoran

pre 15 godina

Mike - "Albanians can and could have attacked places in Serbia but chose not to because they are not terrorists."

More Albanian propaganda. Convenient to forget what started the war in Kosovo in the first place - Albanian terrorism, killing Serbian troops, police and civilians.

Who was doing this - the current KLA leadership.

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 15 godina

@#3 there is plenty to be decided still and the sooner you realize that the better it will be for albanians and Serbs.

We need to think in terms of win-win not greater Albania or greater Serbia.

@#4 Do you really think it's as simple to say Serbia lost 4 wars? You know it's not. The situation is more complicated than that, but then I'm sure you already knew that.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

If the west gets away with partitioning Serbia along the ethnic lines, i.e. south Kosovo to the Albanians and north to the Serbs, then there is nothing preventing RS from separating from Bosnia. It's along ethnic lines after all. If the Albanians can get away with not being part of Serbia simply because they don't like Serbs, then RS can separate and be governed only by the Serbs because they don't like being governed by the Muslims.

What's good for the goose etc.
Before anyone jumps up and down and says this is different because of all the Serbian atrocities etc. etc., I say to them. Serbs have endured ethnic cleansing and atroceties commited against them by the Muslims and Croats.
Krajina to get their Serbian population back and then separate along the enthnic lines as well.

You can't have two sets of rules. All that needs to happen is for the Serbs to declare UDI and be supported by Russia, China and India and it cannot be reversed just like Kosovo. The UN didn't give the green light, only the US did, so Russia can do the same for the Serbs.

I have a feeling it will.
In the end Serbia will be the victor here.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

nothing is irreversible, my dear albanian friends. you shouldn´t fool yourselves.

and Tadic knows very good, that if he betrays national interest, he will be personally responsible.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Tadic is probably going to push for a confederated Kosovo as Zeri claims, but will certainly stop short of recognizing its sovereignty.

In the end, this is probably what the EU and the US are expecting: Serbs laying claim to the north and influential (but not outright) control of the enclaves, but not doing anything to disrupt the Albanian sectors. Zeri is also right in that a frozen conflict is unavoidable, but it will be a frozen conflict along the same lines as Russia and Japan - they're technically still at war, but no one gives much thought to it.

If this materializes, I'd say it's a nominal victory for Kosovo's international backers.

Upper-case Mike (I haven't jumped ship to Team Kosova as the above comment by someone else may lead some to think)

Kate

pre 15 godina

Mike - It is clear that you are not the same as the lower case mike because you write so much better, and your points are far more coherent and based on reality.

Lower case 'mike' - I agree with Nicholas Klinsman. What a nonsense to speak of Serbians as being the only aggressor, and having 'lost' 4 wars. Even in the case of Kosovo Serbia retained sovereignty and prevented Nato from having open access to its territory.

I would say that this was a fairly strong outcome considering that Serbia is one small nation that was fighting against the world's largest military alliance.

The split from Montenegro was amicable. It was already a nation, and when the federation broke up it made the decision to go its own way. The relations are still perfectly sound.

Peggy: "You can't have two sets of rules. All that needs to happen is for the Serbs to declare UDI and be supported by Russia, China and India and it cannot be reversed just like Kosovo. The UN didn't give the green light, only the US did, so Russia can do the same for the Serbs."

Very good point - as always.