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Saturday, 05.07.2008.

18:13

"UN could accept new Serb local authorities"

A Priština-based Albanian language newspaper says the UN is inclined to accept the existence of the new Kosovo Serb local authorities.

Izvor: Rusko Matulic

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ZV

pre 15 godina

For all of you that dont konw it's KOSOVO not Kosova. Kosova doesnt have a meaning KOSOVO does. I dont have time to explain it to you now but you are more then welcome to look it up yourself. To all the Albanians in here. Kosovo is Serbia and it will always be Serbian. The Serbs that participated in the elections in May will be recognized. Just like the FAKE Republic of KosovO was recogniced. As far as the Albanians being tolerant and kind LOL we all saw them in action in 04 during the riots. God bless. CCCC

branco covic

pre 15 godina

a dose of their own medicine isn't it? domino effect? PANDORAS BOX? all these are created by the UDI. more chaos than order as time goes by. there is also a sayiong which goes " a thief hates a fellow thief"

EA

pre 15 godina

The matching of Kosova Serbs rights with those of Albanians in Presevo Bujanovac and Medvedja will be "done" by Russia and Serbian government of course as "guarantor" of international law.)))

Jovan

pre 15 godina

just one more stone falling out of the albanian wall...

finally Serbia will tare down this unnatural wall and re-integrate it´s southern province, no doubt.

as for "illyrian" ( still believe to be their descendant? =)

: there is absolutely nothing at all that the Albanians have created in the southern serbian province, just to make this clear!
it´s either Serbia, or the occupying "allied forces", but all the Albanians can do is to say "yes and amen".

let´s just see what future brings!

lowe

pre 15 godina

"that there are three Mitrovicas in Serbia waiting for a similar solution." These are Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja. I hope that B92 kindly enough will let my comment published in full this time. Any solution to Northern Mitrovica should be matched with Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja.
(EA, 5 July 2008 18:48)"

EA,

You are probably the only one on B92 who still do not realize that Medvdeja now has a Serb majority.

The question here is: who in the world is going to do th matching of Presevo and Bujanovac for you?

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

Mike:
"shqarthi, if what you say does manifest (all except for the last stipulation, which you also admit), then yes, I see a majority of people being satisfied"

In which case I find myselfin agreement with shqarthi and mike, and with their reasoning, even if coming from different angles.

Yet the unfortunate thing is that such overall satisfaction needs to be achieved with layers and layers of international bureaucracy over the top of both, with Serbs and Albanians each choosing their preferred group. Serbs and Albanians haven't been able to officialy agree on the reality of soft partition in teir own name, but instead under the name and the control of soft partiton between UNMIK and EULEX, overlayered again by KFOR. I'm not saying they dont play some necessary role in the interum perhaps. But the sooner this bsic double recogniton occurs, the sooner al these layers of extrenely well-paid, tip-heavy international breaucracy can exit.

Alban

pre 15 godina

1. Pristina declares (check)
2. Washington recognizes (check)
3. Mitrovica ignores (check)
4. Belgrade moves in (check)
5. NATO keeps the peace (check)
6. Russia blockades (check)
7. UN compromises (apparently now, check).
8. Presvo Valley Albanians declare own 'parlieament' (Check)

Mike

pre 15 godina

shqarthi, if what you say does manifest (all except for the last stipulation, which you also admit), then yes, I see a majority of people being satisfied.

shqarthi

pre 15 godina

It is funny how you change the name to something and it becomes acceptable. Things are going like Ahtisaari's proposal was suggesting they should go:
Local self-government for the Serbs (check).
Strong ties to Serbia if they want(check).
Full executive powers at municipal level (this for all municipalities actually) (check).
Possibility of financing from the Republic of Serbia(check).
Freedom of language in education, culture etc (check).
Freedom of using national symbols (check).
Cooperation with the Albanian side(waiting, but it will eventually start, if it hasn't already started).
Recognition(the formal one won't happen soon).

I'm satisfied too Mike, Everybody is satisfied :).

Michael John

pre 15 godina

No argument here as long as ALL citizens of Kosova obey its laws. Those that attempt to destabilize the situation or violate Kosova's laws will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!

llyrian

pre 15 godina

UN, soon they will not have mandate. They will go. They don’t have power any more. Serbs, of course they can have municipalities we agreed with this long time ago. Where ever they have majority they will govern. Kosova in future will have more municipalities lets say 100 municipalities some of them will have majority Serbian people. Serbs they can govern their municipalities which we crated just to satisfy them because these municipalities in fact they are villages. But ok because we Albanians are very tolerant we accepted this because we don’t want to see Serbs unsatisfied. We will in future give those more just to make them happy. But we have filings that they don’t want all this. What they want is to provoke conflict. It is some politicians from Belgrade or to be more precise some terrorist who are very scared for their future. They know that one day they will be judged for what they did to Balkan peoples. This is the reason why they want to provoke conflict. They can survive just if there will be conflict. In war they look like heroes. Serbian nation because they are not informed they sing song to these “heroes” thinking that they protecting Serbia from the west and from Balkan peoples. Ex Yugoslavian states even they were before the others they could not join EU just because of these self proclaimed Serbian heroes. They destroyed everything economy, people, moral, dignity, tolerance, culture etc. I don’t understand how Serbs they don’t realize that it is their politicians who destroyed them and their neighbors. They destroyed you but much more your neighbors. Can you please with called had count victims made by your politicians in your side and in your neighbors side. If you can’t see this or if you don’t want to hear about this, than you are in big trouble.

peterpaul

pre 15 godina

Goodbye Herr Rueker. Your anti-Serb stance is over. It is obvious that Serbs must govern themselves, and parallel institutions must exist. Just like the Albanians do not want to be ruled by Serbs, Serbs want nothing to do with Albanians, besides tolerate them.

Mike

pre 15 godina

And just once more for good measure:

1. Pristina declares (check)
2. Washington recognizes (check)
3. Mitrovica ignores (check)
4. Belgrade moves in (check)
5. NATO keeps the peace (check)
6. Russia blockades (check)
7. UN compromises (apparently now, check).

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm satisfied.

EA

pre 15 godina

The experiments in Kosova will not work for very long. The new UN chief might find in the near future talking to himself. I just wanted to mention again as for some reason B92 has censored in the past my comment "that there are three Mitrovicas in Serbia waiting for a similar solution." These are Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja. I hope that B92 kindly enough will let my comment published in full this time. Any solution to Northern Mitrovica should be matched with Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja.

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

And whatever one's opinion on independence for kosovo/a - which any regular reader here knows I'm strongly in favour of - the simple fact is the above is just elementary common sense. Get on with it, K Serbs and Albanians, all elected reps on both sides are those with the popular legitimacy, and nothing can be achieved without recognising that.

peterpaul

pre 15 godina

Goodbye Herr Rueker. Your anti-Serb stance is over. It is obvious that Serbs must govern themselves, and parallel institutions must exist. Just like the Albanians do not want to be ruled by Serbs, Serbs want nothing to do with Albanians, besides tolerate them.

Mike

pre 15 godina

And just once more for good measure:

1. Pristina declares (check)
2. Washington recognizes (check)
3. Mitrovica ignores (check)
4. Belgrade moves in (check)
5. NATO keeps the peace (check)
6. Russia blockades (check)
7. UN compromises (apparently now, check).

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm satisfied.

EA

pre 15 godina

The experiments in Kosova will not work for very long. The new UN chief might find in the near future talking to himself. I just wanted to mention again as for some reason B92 has censored in the past my comment "that there are three Mitrovicas in Serbia waiting for a similar solution." These are Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja. I hope that B92 kindly enough will let my comment published in full this time. Any solution to Northern Mitrovica should be matched with Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja.

Michael John

pre 15 godina

No argument here as long as ALL citizens of Kosova obey its laws. Those that attempt to destabilize the situation or violate Kosova's laws will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!

shqarthi

pre 15 godina

It is funny how you change the name to something and it becomes acceptable. Things are going like Ahtisaari's proposal was suggesting they should go:
Local self-government for the Serbs (check).
Strong ties to Serbia if they want(check).
Full executive powers at municipal level (this for all municipalities actually) (check).
Possibility of financing from the Republic of Serbia(check).
Freedom of language in education, culture etc (check).
Freedom of using national symbols (check).
Cooperation with the Albanian side(waiting, but it will eventually start, if it hasn't already started).
Recognition(the formal one won't happen soon).

I'm satisfied too Mike, Everybody is satisfied :).

llyrian

pre 15 godina

UN, soon they will not have mandate. They will go. They don’t have power any more. Serbs, of course they can have municipalities we agreed with this long time ago. Where ever they have majority they will govern. Kosova in future will have more municipalities lets say 100 municipalities some of them will have majority Serbian people. Serbs they can govern their municipalities which we crated just to satisfy them because these municipalities in fact they are villages. But ok because we Albanians are very tolerant we accepted this because we don’t want to see Serbs unsatisfied. We will in future give those more just to make them happy. But we have filings that they don’t want all this. What they want is to provoke conflict. It is some politicians from Belgrade or to be more precise some terrorist who are very scared for their future. They know that one day they will be judged for what they did to Balkan peoples. This is the reason why they want to provoke conflict. They can survive just if there will be conflict. In war they look like heroes. Serbian nation because they are not informed they sing song to these “heroes” thinking that they protecting Serbia from the west and from Balkan peoples. Ex Yugoslavian states even they were before the others they could not join EU just because of these self proclaimed Serbian heroes. They destroyed everything economy, people, moral, dignity, tolerance, culture etc. I don’t understand how Serbs they don’t realize that it is their politicians who destroyed them and their neighbors. They destroyed you but much more your neighbors. Can you please with called had count victims made by your politicians in your side and in your neighbors side. If you can’t see this or if you don’t want to hear about this, than you are in big trouble.

Mike

pre 15 godina

shqarthi, if what you say does manifest (all except for the last stipulation, which you also admit), then yes, I see a majority of people being satisfied.

EA

pre 15 godina

The matching of Kosova Serbs rights with those of Albanians in Presevo Bujanovac and Medvedja will be "done" by Russia and Serbian government of course as "guarantor" of international law.)))

lowe

pre 15 godina

"that there are three Mitrovicas in Serbia waiting for a similar solution." These are Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja. I hope that B92 kindly enough will let my comment published in full this time. Any solution to Northern Mitrovica should be matched with Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja.
(EA, 5 July 2008 18:48)"

EA,

You are probably the only one on B92 who still do not realize that Medvdeja now has a Serb majority.

The question here is: who in the world is going to do th matching of Presevo and Bujanovac for you?

Alban

pre 15 godina

1. Pristina declares (check)
2. Washington recognizes (check)
3. Mitrovica ignores (check)
4. Belgrade moves in (check)
5. NATO keeps the peace (check)
6. Russia blockades (check)
7. UN compromises (apparently now, check).
8. Presvo Valley Albanians declare own 'parlieament' (Check)

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

Mike:
"shqarthi, if what you say does manifest (all except for the last stipulation, which you also admit), then yes, I see a majority of people being satisfied"

In which case I find myselfin agreement with shqarthi and mike, and with their reasoning, even if coming from different angles.

Yet the unfortunate thing is that such overall satisfaction needs to be achieved with layers and layers of international bureaucracy over the top of both, with Serbs and Albanians each choosing their preferred group. Serbs and Albanians haven't been able to officialy agree on the reality of soft partition in teir own name, but instead under the name and the control of soft partiton between UNMIK and EULEX, overlayered again by KFOR. I'm not saying they dont play some necessary role in the interum perhaps. But the sooner this bsic double recogniton occurs, the sooner al these layers of extrenely well-paid, tip-heavy international breaucracy can exit.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

just one more stone falling out of the albanian wall...

finally Serbia will tare down this unnatural wall and re-integrate it´s southern province, no doubt.

as for "illyrian" ( still believe to be their descendant? =)

: there is absolutely nothing at all that the Albanians have created in the southern serbian province, just to make this clear!
it´s either Serbia, or the occupying "allied forces", but all the Albanians can do is to say "yes and amen".

let´s just see what future brings!

ZV

pre 15 godina

For all of you that dont konw it's KOSOVO not Kosova. Kosova doesnt have a meaning KOSOVO does. I dont have time to explain it to you now but you are more then welcome to look it up yourself. To all the Albanians in here. Kosovo is Serbia and it will always be Serbian. The Serbs that participated in the elections in May will be recognized. Just like the FAKE Republic of KosovO was recogniced. As far as the Albanians being tolerant and kind LOL we all saw them in action in 04 during the riots. God bless. CCCC

branco covic

pre 15 godina

a dose of their own medicine isn't it? domino effect? PANDORAS BOX? all these are created by the UDI. more chaos than order as time goes by. there is also a sayiong which goes " a thief hates a fellow thief"

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

And whatever one's opinion on independence for kosovo/a - which any regular reader here knows I'm strongly in favour of - the simple fact is the above is just elementary common sense. Get on with it, K Serbs and Albanians, all elected reps on both sides are those with the popular legitimacy, and nothing can be achieved without recognising that.

EA

pre 15 godina

The experiments in Kosova will not work for very long. The new UN chief might find in the near future talking to himself. I just wanted to mention again as for some reason B92 has censored in the past my comment "that there are three Mitrovicas in Serbia waiting for a similar solution." These are Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja. I hope that B92 kindly enough will let my comment published in full this time. Any solution to Northern Mitrovica should be matched with Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja.

llyrian

pre 15 godina

UN, soon they will not have mandate. They will go. They don’t have power any more. Serbs, of course they can have municipalities we agreed with this long time ago. Where ever they have majority they will govern. Kosova in future will have more municipalities lets say 100 municipalities some of them will have majority Serbian people. Serbs they can govern their municipalities which we crated just to satisfy them because these municipalities in fact they are villages. But ok because we Albanians are very tolerant we accepted this because we don’t want to see Serbs unsatisfied. We will in future give those more just to make them happy. But we have filings that they don’t want all this. What they want is to provoke conflict. It is some politicians from Belgrade or to be more precise some terrorist who are very scared for their future. They know that one day they will be judged for what they did to Balkan peoples. This is the reason why they want to provoke conflict. They can survive just if there will be conflict. In war they look like heroes. Serbian nation because they are not informed they sing song to these “heroes” thinking that they protecting Serbia from the west and from Balkan peoples. Ex Yugoslavian states even they were before the others they could not join EU just because of these self proclaimed Serbian heroes. They destroyed everything economy, people, moral, dignity, tolerance, culture etc. I don’t understand how Serbs they don’t realize that it is their politicians who destroyed them and their neighbors. They destroyed you but much more your neighbors. Can you please with called had count victims made by your politicians in your side and in your neighbors side. If you can’t see this or if you don’t want to hear about this, than you are in big trouble.

Michael John

pre 15 godina

No argument here as long as ALL citizens of Kosova obey its laws. Those that attempt to destabilize the situation or violate Kosova's laws will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!

peterpaul

pre 15 godina

Goodbye Herr Rueker. Your anti-Serb stance is over. It is obvious that Serbs must govern themselves, and parallel institutions must exist. Just like the Albanians do not want to be ruled by Serbs, Serbs want nothing to do with Albanians, besides tolerate them.

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

And whatever one's opinion on independence for kosovo/a - which any regular reader here knows I'm strongly in favour of - the simple fact is the above is just elementary common sense. Get on with it, K Serbs and Albanians, all elected reps on both sides are those with the popular legitimacy, and nothing can be achieved without recognising that.

shqarthi

pre 15 godina

It is funny how you change the name to something and it becomes acceptable. Things are going like Ahtisaari's proposal was suggesting they should go:
Local self-government for the Serbs (check).
Strong ties to Serbia if they want(check).
Full executive powers at municipal level (this for all municipalities actually) (check).
Possibility of financing from the Republic of Serbia(check).
Freedom of language in education, culture etc (check).
Freedom of using national symbols (check).
Cooperation with the Albanian side(waiting, but it will eventually start, if it hasn't already started).
Recognition(the formal one won't happen soon).

I'm satisfied too Mike, Everybody is satisfied :).

Mike

pre 15 godina

And just once more for good measure:

1. Pristina declares (check)
2. Washington recognizes (check)
3. Mitrovica ignores (check)
4. Belgrade moves in (check)
5. NATO keeps the peace (check)
6. Russia blockades (check)
7. UN compromises (apparently now, check).

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm satisfied.

Mike

pre 15 godina

shqarthi, if what you say does manifest (all except for the last stipulation, which you also admit), then yes, I see a majority of people being satisfied.

Alban

pre 15 godina

1. Pristina declares (check)
2. Washington recognizes (check)
3. Mitrovica ignores (check)
4. Belgrade moves in (check)
5. NATO keeps the peace (check)
6. Russia blockades (check)
7. UN compromises (apparently now, check).
8. Presvo Valley Albanians declare own 'parlieament' (Check)

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

Mike:
"shqarthi, if what you say does manifest (all except for the last stipulation, which you also admit), then yes, I see a majority of people being satisfied"

In which case I find myselfin agreement with shqarthi and mike, and with their reasoning, even if coming from different angles.

Yet the unfortunate thing is that such overall satisfaction needs to be achieved with layers and layers of international bureaucracy over the top of both, with Serbs and Albanians each choosing their preferred group. Serbs and Albanians haven't been able to officialy agree on the reality of soft partition in teir own name, but instead under the name and the control of soft partiton between UNMIK and EULEX, overlayered again by KFOR. I'm not saying they dont play some necessary role in the interum perhaps. But the sooner this bsic double recogniton occurs, the sooner al these layers of extrenely well-paid, tip-heavy international breaucracy can exit.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"that there are three Mitrovicas in Serbia waiting for a similar solution." These are Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja. I hope that B92 kindly enough will let my comment published in full this time. Any solution to Northern Mitrovica should be matched with Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja.
(EA, 5 July 2008 18:48)"

EA,

You are probably the only one on B92 who still do not realize that Medvdeja now has a Serb majority.

The question here is: who in the world is going to do th matching of Presevo and Bujanovac for you?

Jovan

pre 15 godina

just one more stone falling out of the albanian wall...

finally Serbia will tare down this unnatural wall and re-integrate it´s southern province, no doubt.

as for "illyrian" ( still believe to be their descendant? =)

: there is absolutely nothing at all that the Albanians have created in the southern serbian province, just to make this clear!
it´s either Serbia, or the occupying "allied forces", but all the Albanians can do is to say "yes and amen".

let´s just see what future brings!

EA

pre 15 godina

The matching of Kosova Serbs rights with those of Albanians in Presevo Bujanovac and Medvedja will be "done" by Russia and Serbian government of course as "guarantor" of international law.)))

branco covic

pre 15 godina

a dose of their own medicine isn't it? domino effect? PANDORAS BOX? all these are created by the UDI. more chaos than order as time goes by. there is also a sayiong which goes " a thief hates a fellow thief"

ZV

pre 15 godina

For all of you that dont konw it's KOSOVO not Kosova. Kosova doesnt have a meaning KOSOVO does. I dont have time to explain it to you now but you are more then welcome to look it up yourself. To all the Albanians in here. Kosovo is Serbia and it will always be Serbian. The Serbs that participated in the elections in May will be recognized. Just like the FAKE Republic of KosovO was recogniced. As far as the Albanians being tolerant and kind LOL we all saw them in action in 04 during the riots. God bless. CCCC