Feith to Montenegro: Recognize Kosovo

How about the large Serbian population in Montenegro and the large parts of it under Serbian control? Check this map http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Montenegroetno03.png

If Montenegro thinks it right that Serbia should lose some of its territory, then I'm sure they wouldn't mind losing some of their territory to the Serbians.

mr faith if you happen to read these opinions i would suggest to you sir stay out of the non memmber eu countries diplomatic matters it is not your concern,as you are so anti serb that if you could you would nuke as all ,and sleep very well,oh you guys tried that already ,what was i thinking

It's incredible the arrogance of this Feith. Ban ki-moon has not give yet his instructions to Zannier in order to authorize Feith and EULEX to take the power. But Feith acts already as the boss in Kosovo, above Zannier and Pristina, as the true EU's i.e. Solana's proconsul. Montenegro has ever say: "No pressure from the EU". And now? The blackmailing strategy is the same of each SAA: the full "cooperation" with the Solana's CFSP in Kosovo, otherwise you're out of the EU integration process. And the Feith's contempt of Serbia too is meaningfull: the only thing is the withdrawl of the ambassador, but Serbia too must do what we (the EU) want. The Irish "no" to this EU democracy was not surprising.

Wow!! All you Albanians are always telling others what to do aren't you.

First Serbia should do this or that, and now Montenegro should do this. How about you take control of your own lives first and then have an opinion on what others should do.
You don't have any say at all in what goes on in Kosovo and cannot run your own affairs, thus NATO and the US taking matters into their hands, but you continually think you know how to run Seribia and their neighbours.

I won't be surprised if Montenegro recognizes Kosovo as I always stated that they will because of all the sucking up to America that they have done and will continue to do.
It will be their loss in the end. Selling out your brothers is never a good idea no matter how appealing your new friends might look like.

EU - DEMOCRACY AT WORK,

This is reality check – how democratic masters can be. They are losing patience with any kind of disobedience of their slaves. That is my Albanian friends democracy of western world you are begging for - Straightforward uncensored slavery with blackmailing and bulling.

Occupiers – fascist of new era on the mission – Phase One– like Nazis at the late 1930’s – small spineless nations collaborate easily – just small part of Europe stays proud and sacrifice and pays the price. Thanks Ireland – only you can see over the hill.

They will be successful in Phase One – they will get help of poor/no moral inferior, insecure – no identity nations. But, be alert – PHASE TWO is inevitable – it will take some time, but victory parade is on horizon.

SFSlobodaN

So, after three or four rounds of denial, it turns out that there IS pressure on Montenegro after all...

Its obvious by reading the article that Feith does not care about Serbia or Montenegro. He doesn't care that a recognition by Montenegro will cause problems between it and Serbia. How does that then reaffirm stability in the region. Feith does not make any sense what so ever and is only towing the US line, but luckily, no one takes notice of this buffon any more. He has become irrelevant.

But, who is Feith?

Hi B92!! why you are posting such rubbish news especially coming from Pieter Feith. This person is obviously anti serb and anti internatiional law.

Wow - they are getting DESPERATE for anyone they can arm-twist into recognising - as there dream is falling apart!!

just think for a minute about the HUGE humiliation this is going to be for the EU and US!

kosovo is going nowhere!

keep up the good work Russia!

If Montenegro officialy agrees with NATO control of Kosovo, I don't see how that would contribute to regional stability. More likely it would have a small potential to provoke destability in Montenegro itself.

Well, Milo should keep in mind when hes brining any kind of anti-Serbian decisions that, he who bites the hand that feeds them licks the boots that kicks them.

And Milo, just like the Albanians, will end up on their needs licking the boots of Western Imperialist who are walking all over them.
How much you give, that much you get out.

Isn't this "progressiveness" just great? As an illegal independent country such as Montenegro, or any other former Yugoslav territory you get "independence" and then get told what to do by those "great" and "friendly" countries just to north or west of you. Wow the end of the 20th and the beginning of 21st century is a great time in the Balkans. You get an opportunity to hold the bags for your bosses.

The Dutch should be excluded from any policy in the Balkans. Their record there is pathetic and cowardly.

I would almost love to see what ZK UK threatens, and hear about a Serbian attempt to conquer Montenegro and annex it to Serbia. That would be splendid.

Soon, Serbia will recall its ambassador from Podgorica, as Montenegro will recognize Kosova's independence. They already have stated that they accept the new Kosova passports, and are expecting a showering of Kosovars into the Albanian regions and beaches of Montenegro.

They will recognize soon, and improve Balkan stability by doing so. Thanks for your report, Mr. Feith. Your service to improving the Balkans is appreciated!

Mark, why would Serbia have to do anything? There are 200,000 Serbians living in Montenegro compared to 270,000 Montenegrans. It's not a big difference and if they expect stability, I think they have another thing coming.

There are even more Bosniaks (50,000) living there than Albanians (30,000). Lets see where their interests lie.

Serbia should take the opportunity and establish full diplomatic relations with new independent Kosovo. Only by recognizing Kosovo, regional stability and prosperity would be achieved; new perspectives for young Serbians who have been locked up in a backward looking country for far too long.

Feith to Tzar Milo:
You should really recognize Kosovo, othterwise you are undermining my authority.

Tzar Milo to Feith:

You should really outlaw legalized narcotic use in your coffee shops in Holland

Feith to Tzar Milo:

But if we allow some of your associates to provide us with the narcotics, will you recognize then?

Tzar Milo to Feith:

Now were talking!

Folks, I've just watched this on youtube:
ch?v=HX8lD7QFYK4&feature=related
He reminded me on George Bush: ineloquent and stuttering.
Now the question is-in regard to that- how can he
'lead' the politics so complex as Kosovo issue?

to the supporters of international law:

relax, guys!

sending out provocative statements like that is the best proof for their desperation in regard to the kosovo-issue! since they aren´t capable of achieving their immoral goals they now try it with those stupid provocations in order to get some aggressive reaction from the serb side...

after all, Peter who? this man is a relatively small figure in this game... but those who stand behind him, are trying to push for new instability, it seems.

what´s best: all the Serbs have to do is to stay strong and united.

some in the western capitals have already severe headache! :)

but in the end the k-albanians will suffer from that headache...

once again:

don´t listen to guys like this dutch actor, it has not so much relevance...

We all know that Crnogora was already promised EU membership if it voted in favour of Solano's proposals for FR Yugoslavia. But what have they actually gained form that sell out? do they actually have a date for Acession? Where are they in the process - not much further then Serbia itself at this point despite all that was promised!!!

I say go ahead Milo publically call the EU bluff given Feith an EU diplomat is being so brazen - call his and Solano's bluff ask for a date to join the EU to be set for 1st Jan 2009 and see what their response is!


But, comprehend you gained nothing for the citizens of Crnogora bar dissent from many Crnogorci of Serbian ethnicity and and an undelying questioning of integrity from the rest of the population over this false promise form the same EUrats.

Go ahead dare bluff the empty promise but do so with a private discussion with Serbia. But you must get a signature from the deceivers and push them to joinn the EU in 6 months if they want this "indecent proposal"

Of course once your in you can always change your minds on certain matters...

Tadic can no longer deny the "indecent proposal" has not been put to him when he signed SAA. Belguims FM said;

"My understanding is that we signed the agreement with Serbia itself, without Kosovo,"

Now the EU man to head illegal EULEX in Serbia's province is putting pressure on our close neighbour to act against what Crnogorci know only too well is illprincipled and is nothing nore then an "indecent proposal" there can be no hiding behind lovely words any more for Tadic. Especially if he respects the Presidency of his Nation! Clearly SAA can not be ratified in Parliment without a clear demand by Serbia's parlimentarions that their interpretation nd ratification is and can only ever be Serbia as a whole in the EU! Not to do so when this EUcrat so acts against Serbia's soverignty would show how low and pitiful D yeS and the coalition around it has become and elections whenever they come again won't be soon enough!!!

ZK UK:

Firstly, there are about 60,000 Albanians in Montenegro (roughly 8% of the population). True, Serbs make up roughly 1/3 of the people in Montenegro, but what are you suggesting they do?

If there's one thing I've learned about Montenegro, it's that Djukanovic won't hesitate to use his Xhandarmerija to pacify any Serbs that would seek to harm the state and disrupt its stability.

Comparing the figure of Serbs to Montenegrins doesn't mean much, since it's largely the Serbs that oppose the recognition of independence. So your number should be more like 200,000 Serbs compared to 480,000 thousand Montenegrins, Albanians, Bosniacs, and Croats. Not that this should be a "battle" or anything, but just putting your numbers into context.

ZK UK, how about some backdoor pressure to Podgorica by the heavyweight countries of EU...dashing Montenegro's hopes for an easy EU intregration, would that make Podgorica recognize?

Macedonia and Montenegro need to get moving fast on these recognitions, and if they think that Germany, France, Italy or UK aren't timing their decision, they better think again.

Well, I guess Montenegrins have their goals set; EU integration and stability in the Balkans. What's all the fuzz coming from the Serbian camp? If Milo made such comments then he's pretty convinced that the recognition is inevitable.

What a cringe.

Much as I support Kosova independence, the ravings of this guy running around "representing" you prompts me to say to my Albanian friends: here's evidence you need real independence, not this current international protectorate, and to get that you need some kind of better approach to the K Serb community on the ground. Without that, you get every kind of UNMIK, EULEX, KFOR, ICR, various other initials, costing billions of dollars to run your show, in order to keep the peace between the natives, and make fortunes.

And what that means is you end po with the likes Fieth being a public embarrassment at your expense.

Funcakes

"Macedonia and Montenegro need to get moving fast on these recognitions, and if they think that Germany, France, Italy or UK aren't timing their decision, they better think again.
(Funcakes, 26 June 2008 11:26)"

What is the UK, Italy, France and Germany going to do to Macedonia and Montenegro if they don't recognize Kosovo? If it comes to it that those two countries decide not to recognize Kosovo, the EU countries will not do anything. It's not like Kosovo is the throbbing heart of the world or of Europe, the EU has more important things to worry about than some small part of the Balkans that, in the long run, is hardly insignificant in the world stage. The most they would do is perhaps politely remind them to come to a decision on recognition.

You are all wrong folks.

By ordering Montenegro government to recognize the 'Kosova', Feith is simply trying to beat down the price Djukanovic has set for doing just that.
It is probably a difference of couple of million of dollars (to be stashed in some Suisse bank) before the celebrated 'stability of Balkans' this recognition facilitates.
Since its own 'independence', Montenegro has been a sort of
'Kosova', which is to say that everything there is for sale, including our breast-beating 'cojstvo i junastvo'.
Nobody should be scandalized any longer for whatever comes from there.
Since we've already flushed Njegos down the toilet, the rest will come without much crisis of conscience. Unless...

I would almost love to see what ZK UK threatens, and hear about a Serbian attempt to conquer Montenegro and annex it to Serbia. That would be splendid.

Soon, Serbia will recall its ambassador from Podgorica, as Montenegro will recognize Kosova's independence. They already have stated that they accept the new Kosova passports, and are expecting a showering of Kosovars into the Albanian regions and beaches of Montenegro.

They will recognize soon, and improve Balkan stability by doing so. Thanks for your report, Mr. Feith. Your service to improving the Balkans is appreciated!

Serbia should take the opportunity and establish full diplomatic relations with new independent Kosovo. Only by recognizing Kosovo, regional stability and prosperity would be achieved; new perspectives for young Serbians who have been locked up in a backward looking country for far too long.

ZK UK:

Firstly, there are about 60,000 Albanians in Montenegro (roughly 8% of the population). True, Serbs make up roughly 1/3 of the people in Montenegro, but what are you suggesting they do?

If there's one thing I've learned about Montenegro, it's that Djukanovic won't hesitate to use his Xhandarmerija to pacify any Serbs that would seek to harm the state and disrupt its stability.

Comparing the figure of Serbs to Montenegrins doesn't mean much, since it's largely the Serbs that oppose the recognition of independence. So your number should be more like 200,000 Serbs compared to 480,000 thousand Montenegrins, Albanians, Bosniacs, and Croats. Not that this should be a "battle" or anything, but just putting your numbers into context.

ZK UK, how about some backdoor pressure to Podgorica by the heavyweight countries of EU...dashing Montenegro's hopes for an easy EU intregration, would that make Podgorica recognize?

Macedonia and Montenegro need to get moving fast on these recognitions, and if they think that Germany, France, Italy or UK aren't timing their decision, they better think again.

Well, I guess Montenegrins have their goals set; EU integration and stability in the Balkans. What's all the fuzz coming from the Serbian camp? If Milo made such comments then he's pretty convinced that the recognition is inevitable.

What a cringe.

Much as I support Kosova independence, the ravings of this guy running around "representing" you prompts me to say to my Albanian friends: here's evidence you need real independence, not this current international protectorate, and to get that you need some kind of better approach to the K Serb community on the ground. Without that, you get every kind of UNMIK, EULEX, KFOR, ICR, various other initials, costing billions of dollars to run your show, in order to keep the peace between the natives, and make fortunes.

And what that means is you end po with the likes Fieth being a public embarrassment at your expense.

mr faith if you happen to read these opinions i would suggest to you sir stay out of the non memmber eu countries diplomatic matters it is not your concern,as you are so anti serb that if you could you would nuke as all ,and sleep very well,oh you guys tried that already ,what was i thinking

It's incredible the arrogance of this Feith. Ban ki-moon has not give yet his instructions to Zannier in order to authorize Feith and EULEX to take the power. But Feith acts already as the boss in Kosovo, above Zannier and Pristina, as the true EU's i.e. Solana's proconsul. Montenegro has ever say: "No pressure from the EU". And now? The blackmailing strategy is the same of each SAA: the full "cooperation" with the Solana's CFSP in Kosovo, otherwise you're out of the EU integration process. And the Feith's contempt of Serbia too is meaningfull: the only thing is the withdrawl of the ambassador, but Serbia too must do what we (the EU) want. The Irish "no" to this EU democracy was not surprising.

Wow!! All you Albanians are always telling others what to do aren't you.

First Serbia should do this or that, and now Montenegro should do this. How about you take control of your own lives first and then have an opinion on what others should do.
You don't have any say at all in what goes on in Kosovo and cannot run your own affairs, thus NATO and the US taking matters into their hands, but you continually think you know how to run Seribia and their neighbours.

I won't be surprised if Montenegro recognizes Kosovo as I always stated that they will because of all the sucking up to America that they have done and will continue to do.
It will be their loss in the end. Selling out your brothers is never a good idea no matter how appealing your new friends might look like.

But, who is Feith?

Hi B92!! why you are posting such rubbish news especially coming from Pieter Feith. This person is obviously anti serb and anti internatiional law.

EU - DEMOCRACY AT WORK,

This is reality check – how democratic masters can be. They are losing patience with any kind of disobedience of their slaves. That is my Albanian friends democracy of western world you are begging for - Straightforward uncensored slavery with blackmailing and bulling.

Occupiers – fascist of new era on the mission – Phase One– like Nazis at the late 1930’s – small spineless nations collaborate easily – just small part of Europe stays proud and sacrifice and pays the price. Thanks Ireland – only you can see over the hill.

They will be successful in Phase One – they will get help of poor/no moral inferior, insecure – no identity nations. But, be alert – PHASE TWO is inevitable – it will take some time, but victory parade is on horizon.

SFSlobodaN

How about the large Serbian population in Montenegro and the large parts of it under Serbian control? Check this map http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Montenegroetno03.png

If Montenegro thinks it right that Serbia should lose some of its territory, then I'm sure they wouldn't mind losing some of their territory to the Serbians.

Isn't this "progressiveness" just great? As an illegal independent country such as Montenegro, or any other former Yugoslav territory you get "independence" and then get told what to do by those "great" and "friendly" countries just to north or west of you. Wow the end of the 20th and the beginning of 21st century is a great time in the Balkans. You get an opportunity to hold the bags for your bosses.

Its obvious by reading the article that Feith does not care about Serbia or Montenegro. He doesn't care that a recognition by Montenegro will cause problems between it and Serbia. How does that then reaffirm stability in the region. Feith does not make any sense what so ever and is only towing the US line, but luckily, no one takes notice of this buffon any more. He has become irrelevant.

Feith to Tzar Milo:
You should really recognize Kosovo, othterwise you are undermining my authority.

Tzar Milo to Feith:

You should really outlaw legalized narcotic use in your coffee shops in Holland

Feith to Tzar Milo:

But if we allow some of your associates to provide us with the narcotics, will you recognize then?

Tzar Milo to Feith:

Now were talking!

Mark, why would Serbia have to do anything? There are 200,000 Serbians living in Montenegro compared to 270,000 Montenegrans. It's not a big difference and if they expect stability, I think they have another thing coming.

There are even more Bosniaks (50,000) living there than Albanians (30,000). Lets see where their interests lie.

Wow - they are getting DESPERATE for anyone they can arm-twist into recognising - as there dream is falling apart!!

just think for a minute about the HUGE humiliation this is going to be for the EU and US!

kosovo is going nowhere!

keep up the good work Russia!

So, after three or four rounds of denial, it turns out that there IS pressure on Montenegro after all...

The Dutch should be excluded from any policy in the Balkans. Their record there is pathetic and cowardly.

Folks, I've just watched this on youtube:
ch?v=HX8lD7QFYK4&feature=related
He reminded me on George Bush: ineloquent and stuttering.
Now the question is-in regard to that- how can he
'lead' the politics so complex as Kosovo issue?

We all know that Crnogora was already promised EU membership if it voted in favour of Solano's proposals for FR Yugoslavia. But what have they actually gained form that sell out? do they actually have a date for Acession? Where are they in the process - not much further then Serbia itself at this point despite all that was promised!!!

I say go ahead Milo publically call the EU bluff given Feith an EU diplomat is being so brazen - call his and Solano's bluff ask for a date to join the EU to be set for 1st Jan 2009 and see what their response is!


But, comprehend you gained nothing for the citizens of Crnogora bar dissent from many Crnogorci of Serbian ethnicity and and an undelying questioning of integrity from the rest of the population over this false promise form the same EUrats.

Go ahead dare bluff the empty promise but do so with a private discussion with Serbia. But you must get a signature from the deceivers and push them to joinn the EU in 6 months if they want this "indecent proposal"

Of course once your in you can always change your minds on certain matters...

Tadic can no longer deny the "indecent proposal" has not been put to him when he signed SAA. Belguims FM said;

"My understanding is that we signed the agreement with Serbia itself, without Kosovo,"

Now the EU man to head illegal EULEX in Serbia's province is putting pressure on our close neighbour to act against what Crnogorci know only too well is illprincipled and is nothing nore then an "indecent proposal" there can be no hiding behind lovely words any more for Tadic. Especially if he respects the Presidency of his Nation! Clearly SAA can not be ratified in Parliment without a clear demand by Serbia's parlimentarions that their interpretation nd ratification is and can only ever be Serbia as a whole in the EU! Not to do so when this EUcrat so acts against Serbia's soverignty would show how low and pitiful D yeS and the coalition around it has become and elections whenever they come again won't be soon enough!!!

Well, Milo should keep in mind when hes brining any kind of anti-Serbian decisions that, he who bites the hand that feeds them licks the boots that kicks them.

And Milo, just like the Albanians, will end up on their needs licking the boots of Western Imperialist who are walking all over them.
How much you give, that much you get out.

If Montenegro officialy agrees with NATO control of Kosovo, I don't see how that would contribute to regional stability. More likely it would have a small potential to provoke destability in Montenegro itself.

to the supporters of international law:

relax, guys!

sending out provocative statements like that is the best proof for their desperation in regard to the kosovo-issue! since they aren´t capable of achieving their immoral goals they now try it with those stupid provocations in order to get some aggressive reaction from the serb side...

after all, Peter who? this man is a relatively small figure in this game... but those who stand behind him, are trying to push for new instability, it seems.

what´s best: all the Serbs have to do is to stay strong and united.

some in the western capitals have already severe headache! :)

but in the end the k-albanians will suffer from that headache...

once again:

don´t listen to guys like this dutch actor, it has not so much relevance...

Funcakes

"Macedonia and Montenegro need to get moving fast on these recognitions, and if they think that Germany, France, Italy or UK aren't timing their decision, they better think again.
(Funcakes, 26 June 2008 11:26)"

What is the UK, Italy, France and Germany going to do to Macedonia and Montenegro if they don't recognize Kosovo? If it comes to it that those two countries decide not to recognize Kosovo, the EU countries will not do anything. It's not like Kosovo is the throbbing heart of the world or of Europe, the EU has more important things to worry about than some small part of the Balkans that, in the long run, is hardly insignificant in the world stage. The most they would do is perhaps politely remind them to come to a decision on recognition.

You are all wrong folks.

By ordering Montenegro government to recognize the 'Kosova', Feith is simply trying to beat down the price Djukanovic has set for doing just that.
It is probably a difference of couple of million of dollars (to be stashed in some Suisse bank) before the celebrated 'stability of Balkans' this recognition facilitates.
Since its own 'independence', Montenegro has been a sort of
'Kosova', which is to say that everything there is for sale, including our breast-beating 'cojstvo i junastvo'.
Nobody should be scandalized any longer for whatever comes from there.
Since we've already flushed Njegos down the toilet, the rest will come without much crisis of conscience. Unless...