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Tuesday, 24.06.2008.

16:10

Mesić: Croatia wants democratic Serbia

Stjepan Mesić says that Serbia is ready to become part of the EU, by acquiring EU standards.

Izvor: Hajrudin Krvavac

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ante

pre 15 godina

Who are all you Serbs claiming that the Croatians authorities should return Serbian refugees. You showed your loyalty during the war by staying Kranja Srbska. The Serbs who stood in Croatia are allowed to stay because they didn't go over to the other side. And who are these people saying we should return these people who commited treason. I wish Croatia wasn't but Mesic, being the EU's puppet is allowoing them return.
Speedking about Mesic who is he to say that Croats from BiH have to have Saravajo as their capital. Only Croats within BiH can chose their own future. Everyone can see how much 'rights' they have in BiH.

Nenad

pre 15 godina

I think that the main aim of Mesic’s speech is to force EU not to stop the enlargement process. The message is that EU should take him, Mesic now. He (a former nationalist) would repeat everything some powerful EU-states are saying. Otherwise EU will get “that those who would like to see the country return to isolation”. Mesic is also promoting himself at the cost of stability in Croatia, especially by his opinion about Croatians in Herzegovina.
What Mesic says about Serbia is exactly the same, some US-diplomats in the region are always repeating to Serbia. He even copies the arrogance of US-politicians speaking about Serbian political decisions, decisions of a state US politicians (and the president of Croatia) have no democratic legitimacy in. Austrian and German politicians at least try to hide the arrogance a little bit when speaking to Serbia.
Generally, it is in the best interests of Croatia and all Croatians to fight for their own long term interests and not accepting being instrument of today’s most powerful states. As time changes Croatia could get the instrument of not-powerful states. Being an instrument of not-powerful states is not profitable anymore.
But Mesic once said that Croatia won twice in WWII. First as Hitler ally, then as Hitler enemy and that there is nothing to be ashamed for. Croatia (this time with him as leading politician) first won by ethnic cleansing, then by joining EU. Perhaps he believes to win also the next time, when today powerful countries will lose. This is why an “average Serb” like me doesn’t like him.

Jackson

pre 15 godina

THE Mesic that gave command for slaughtering thousands of Serbs living in Krajna and Slavonia (nowadays Croatia) who didn´t want to live in a fascist country ??? THE Mesic who still hasn´t brought Croatia into the EU (also because of the fascism ruling this "country") ?
Well this Mesic should really shut it....

PJD

pre 15 godina

Mesic would have a good point in complaining about Serbia having rejected Kosovo's secession had most other countries in the world recognised it. But only 43 out of 192 UN members have.

Also trying to justify Kosovo's independence by claimning that it was "a constitutive element of the Yugoslav federation" is meaningless as it was recognised as being part of the FRY (Serbia being the successor state) by UNSC resolution 1244. Kosovo was part of Serbia before Yugoslavia existed.

Maks

pre 15 godina

"By refusing to accept the fact that Kosovo has declared independence, Serbia merely shows its inability to accept reality, and by applying a kind of diluted Hallstein doctrine towards countries that have recognized Kosovo, it pushes itself towards half-isolation in international relations. That’s not good for Serbia or the region.”
“…Serbia [is] turn[ing] Serbs living in Kosovo into a tool whose ultimate aim would be Kosovo’s partition.”
“…Kosovo had been a constitutive element of the Yugoslav federation, and that, as such, it could not be compared with other secessionist movements.”

I wander who can have hard time to understand this message????

Duro

pre 15 godina

Looks like Mark & Ben have a crush on Mesic. Well you can have him, his arrogance and illusion of being a "somebody" is more comical to Serbia than the new Kosovo passport.

Croats have no say in Serbia affair's try and grasp that reality Mesic

Alex

pre 15 godina

Congrats on understanding how to sove instability in the Balkans Mr. Mesic. You can now begin implementing it by allowing the return of 500,000 Serb refugees to Croatia.

Thanks!

lids

pre 15 godina

Look who`s talking..
When croatia returns all 250.000 Serbian people to Krajina-maybe then they could talk about someone else getting into "civilization".
Until then-they should take the orders from the masters and leave Serbia alone.

dd

pre 15 godina

Hey Guys,

This is a person who “proudly” announced that he started and executed destruction of my birth country – Yugoslavia. He wants weak, smaller and poltronic SERBIA. - He with US support made me and my family refugees and attacked Yugoslav Army – (JNA) who tried to protect our country.
US used help of happy fascist left-overs in EU– losers from previous wars to fabricate history by telling that Serbian started the war in Yugoslavia – and need punishment and revenge for victories and sacrifices in WWI and WWII.
Again those forces pushing the world to the limit and probable new war and will be defeated again – just we don’t deserve it to suffer the most for the world justice and peace of future generations.
SFSlobodaN

Mark (Shqype)

pre 15 godina

Very well put, Mr. Mesic! You understand the reality of the world, and what's best for the stabilization and advancement of the Balkans.

I only wish your Serbian counterparts would take lessons from you and move in the right direction!

ben

pre 15 godina

This is the most comprehensive and detailed analysis of the Balkan issues.

Only blinds in Belgrade cannot see that.

Mesic is not Kosovar neither a Bosnian.

When we will se a politician that acts and speaks like this in Belgrade than we will see a European Serbia- till now we witness only caricature of European Serbia and peace in Balkans.

dd

pre 15 godina

Hey Guys,

This is a person who “proudly” announced that he started and executed destruction of my birth country – Yugoslavia. He wants weak, smaller and poltronic SERBIA. - He with US support made me and my family refugees and attacked Yugoslav Army – (JNA) who tried to protect our country.
US used help of happy fascist left-overs in EU– losers from previous wars to fabricate history by telling that Serbian started the war in Yugoslavia – and need punishment and revenge for victories and sacrifices in WWI and WWII.
Again those forces pushing the world to the limit and probable new war and will be defeated again – just we don’t deserve it to suffer the most for the world justice and peace of future generations.
SFSlobodaN

Alex

pre 15 godina

Congrats on understanding how to sove instability in the Balkans Mr. Mesic. You can now begin implementing it by allowing the return of 500,000 Serb refugees to Croatia.

Thanks!

Maks

pre 15 godina

"By refusing to accept the fact that Kosovo has declared independence, Serbia merely shows its inability to accept reality, and by applying a kind of diluted Hallstein doctrine towards countries that have recognized Kosovo, it pushes itself towards half-isolation in international relations. That’s not good for Serbia or the region.”
“…Serbia [is] turn[ing] Serbs living in Kosovo into a tool whose ultimate aim would be Kosovo’s partition.”
“…Kosovo had been a constitutive element of the Yugoslav federation, and that, as such, it could not be compared with other secessionist movements.”

I wander who can have hard time to understand this message????

Mark (Shqype)

pre 15 godina

Very well put, Mr. Mesic! You understand the reality of the world, and what's best for the stabilization and advancement of the Balkans.

I only wish your Serbian counterparts would take lessons from you and move in the right direction!

lids

pre 15 godina

Look who`s talking..
When croatia returns all 250.000 Serbian people to Krajina-maybe then they could talk about someone else getting into "civilization".
Until then-they should take the orders from the masters and leave Serbia alone.

ben

pre 15 godina

This is the most comprehensive and detailed analysis of the Balkan issues.

Only blinds in Belgrade cannot see that.

Mesic is not Kosovar neither a Bosnian.

When we will se a politician that acts and speaks like this in Belgrade than we will see a European Serbia- till now we witness only caricature of European Serbia and peace in Balkans.

Duro

pre 15 godina

Looks like Mark & Ben have a crush on Mesic. Well you can have him, his arrogance and illusion of being a "somebody" is more comical to Serbia than the new Kosovo passport.

Croats have no say in Serbia affair's try and grasp that reality Mesic

PJD

pre 15 godina

Mesic would have a good point in complaining about Serbia having rejected Kosovo's secession had most other countries in the world recognised it. But only 43 out of 192 UN members have.

Also trying to justify Kosovo's independence by claimning that it was "a constitutive element of the Yugoslav federation" is meaningless as it was recognised as being part of the FRY (Serbia being the successor state) by UNSC resolution 1244. Kosovo was part of Serbia before Yugoslavia existed.

Jackson

pre 15 godina

THE Mesic that gave command for slaughtering thousands of Serbs living in Krajna and Slavonia (nowadays Croatia) who didn´t want to live in a fascist country ??? THE Mesic who still hasn´t brought Croatia into the EU (also because of the fascism ruling this "country") ?
Well this Mesic should really shut it....

Nenad

pre 15 godina

I think that the main aim of Mesic’s speech is to force EU not to stop the enlargement process. The message is that EU should take him, Mesic now. He (a former nationalist) would repeat everything some powerful EU-states are saying. Otherwise EU will get “that those who would like to see the country return to isolation”. Mesic is also promoting himself at the cost of stability in Croatia, especially by his opinion about Croatians in Herzegovina.
What Mesic says about Serbia is exactly the same, some US-diplomats in the region are always repeating to Serbia. He even copies the arrogance of US-politicians speaking about Serbian political decisions, decisions of a state US politicians (and the president of Croatia) have no democratic legitimacy in. Austrian and German politicians at least try to hide the arrogance a little bit when speaking to Serbia.
Generally, it is in the best interests of Croatia and all Croatians to fight for their own long term interests and not accepting being instrument of today’s most powerful states. As time changes Croatia could get the instrument of not-powerful states. Being an instrument of not-powerful states is not profitable anymore.
But Mesic once said that Croatia won twice in WWII. First as Hitler ally, then as Hitler enemy and that there is nothing to be ashamed for. Croatia (this time with him as leading politician) first won by ethnic cleansing, then by joining EU. Perhaps he believes to win also the next time, when today powerful countries will lose. This is why an “average Serb” like me doesn’t like him.

ante

pre 15 godina

Who are all you Serbs claiming that the Croatians authorities should return Serbian refugees. You showed your loyalty during the war by staying Kranja Srbska. The Serbs who stood in Croatia are allowed to stay because they didn't go over to the other side. And who are these people saying we should return these people who commited treason. I wish Croatia wasn't but Mesic, being the EU's puppet is allowoing them return.
Speedking about Mesic who is he to say that Croats from BiH have to have Saravajo as their capital. Only Croats within BiH can chose their own future. Everyone can see how much 'rights' they have in BiH.

PJD

pre 15 godina

Mesic would have a good point in complaining about Serbia having rejected Kosovo's secession had most other countries in the world recognised it. But only 43 out of 192 UN members have.

Also trying to justify Kosovo's independence by claimning that it was "a constitutive element of the Yugoslav federation" is meaningless as it was recognised as being part of the FRY (Serbia being the successor state) by UNSC resolution 1244. Kosovo was part of Serbia before Yugoslavia existed.

dd

pre 15 godina

Hey Guys,

This is a person who “proudly” announced that he started and executed destruction of my birth country – Yugoslavia. He wants weak, smaller and poltronic SERBIA. - He with US support made me and my family refugees and attacked Yugoslav Army – (JNA) who tried to protect our country.
US used help of happy fascist left-overs in EU– losers from previous wars to fabricate history by telling that Serbian started the war in Yugoslavia – and need punishment and revenge for victories and sacrifices in WWI and WWII.
Again those forces pushing the world to the limit and probable new war and will be defeated again – just we don’t deserve it to suffer the most for the world justice and peace of future generations.
SFSlobodaN

Duro

pre 15 godina

Looks like Mark & Ben have a crush on Mesic. Well you can have him, his arrogance and illusion of being a "somebody" is more comical to Serbia than the new Kosovo passport.

Croats have no say in Serbia affair's try and grasp that reality Mesic

Alex

pre 15 godina

Congrats on understanding how to sove instability in the Balkans Mr. Mesic. You can now begin implementing it by allowing the return of 500,000 Serb refugees to Croatia.

Thanks!

lids

pre 15 godina

Look who`s talking..
When croatia returns all 250.000 Serbian people to Krajina-maybe then they could talk about someone else getting into "civilization".
Until then-they should take the orders from the masters and leave Serbia alone.

Mark (Shqype)

pre 15 godina

Very well put, Mr. Mesic! You understand the reality of the world, and what's best for the stabilization and advancement of the Balkans.

I only wish your Serbian counterparts would take lessons from you and move in the right direction!

ben

pre 15 godina

This is the most comprehensive and detailed analysis of the Balkan issues.

Only blinds in Belgrade cannot see that.

Mesic is not Kosovar neither a Bosnian.

When we will se a politician that acts and speaks like this in Belgrade than we will see a European Serbia- till now we witness only caricature of European Serbia and peace in Balkans.

Jackson

pre 15 godina

THE Mesic that gave command for slaughtering thousands of Serbs living in Krajna and Slavonia (nowadays Croatia) who didn´t want to live in a fascist country ??? THE Mesic who still hasn´t brought Croatia into the EU (also because of the fascism ruling this "country") ?
Well this Mesic should really shut it....

Maks

pre 15 godina

"By refusing to accept the fact that Kosovo has declared independence, Serbia merely shows its inability to accept reality, and by applying a kind of diluted Hallstein doctrine towards countries that have recognized Kosovo, it pushes itself towards half-isolation in international relations. That’s not good for Serbia or the region.”
“…Serbia [is] turn[ing] Serbs living in Kosovo into a tool whose ultimate aim would be Kosovo’s partition.”
“…Kosovo had been a constitutive element of the Yugoslav federation, and that, as such, it could not be compared with other secessionist movements.”

I wander who can have hard time to understand this message????

Nenad

pre 15 godina

I think that the main aim of Mesic’s speech is to force EU not to stop the enlargement process. The message is that EU should take him, Mesic now. He (a former nationalist) would repeat everything some powerful EU-states are saying. Otherwise EU will get “that those who would like to see the country return to isolation”. Mesic is also promoting himself at the cost of stability in Croatia, especially by his opinion about Croatians in Herzegovina.
What Mesic says about Serbia is exactly the same, some US-diplomats in the region are always repeating to Serbia. He even copies the arrogance of US-politicians speaking about Serbian political decisions, decisions of a state US politicians (and the president of Croatia) have no democratic legitimacy in. Austrian and German politicians at least try to hide the arrogance a little bit when speaking to Serbia.
Generally, it is in the best interests of Croatia and all Croatians to fight for their own long term interests and not accepting being instrument of today’s most powerful states. As time changes Croatia could get the instrument of not-powerful states. Being an instrument of not-powerful states is not profitable anymore.
But Mesic once said that Croatia won twice in WWII. First as Hitler ally, then as Hitler enemy and that there is nothing to be ashamed for. Croatia (this time with him as leading politician) first won by ethnic cleansing, then by joining EU. Perhaps he believes to win also the next time, when today powerful countries will lose. This is why an “average Serb” like me doesn’t like him.

ante

pre 15 godina

Who are all you Serbs claiming that the Croatians authorities should return Serbian refugees. You showed your loyalty during the war by staying Kranja Srbska. The Serbs who stood in Croatia are allowed to stay because they didn't go over to the other side. And who are these people saying we should return these people who commited treason. I wish Croatia wasn't but Mesic, being the EU's puppet is allowoing them return.
Speedking about Mesic who is he to say that Croats from BiH have to have Saravajo as their capital. Only Croats within BiH can chose their own future. Everyone can see how much 'rights' they have in BiH.