The UN Security Council has yet to set a date for a debate on Kosovo, but Washington agrees with the proposal for UNMIK reconfiguration, say U.S. sources at the UN.
You are indeed correct and I was wrong: FRY assumed the status as successor state unilateraly. This was rejected by the UN at the same time as suspending them from UN membership!
You sure did: burning houses, killing and raping civilians. Do you know what really happened or just don't care?
(Al, 18 June 2008 02:26)
The Albanians were doing that during peaceful times as recently as 2004 or don't you care to remember?
The accusations against Serbia and Serbian forces have been proven incorrect and used just for propaganda purposes. Sure there were isolated crimes but that is within the norm and the people responsible were prosecuted.
What about the thousands of Albanian murderes running free as we speak and currently serving is the puppet government? There is no effort whatsoever to prosecute them.
Also NATO bombs killed more people than the conflict prior and the criminals who ordered them still remain free.
Serbia, Serbians and most of the world know who the real criminals are!
Actually technically no one succeeded SFRY, FRY did have to apply for a seat just like Croatia (remember the justification for Serbia not being able to sue NATO over the bombing?).
UNSC 1244 applied to FRY and Serbia is the legal successor to FRY and currently holds that seat in the UN. By agreement with Montenegro (and recognized by the UN and everyone else), Montenegro applied for a “new” seat in the UN because they were the ones to leave FRY.
Anyways, silly point, but there’s a lot of misunderstanding about Serbia and international law.
Come on Ben, I’m waiting for you to make the argument that Rambouillet somehow goes against the Helsinki Act, you know that “will of the people” quote you guys always use. Am I not worthy?
It was only a short while ago that both the US and EU mentioned Kosovo's solution within the UN had been exhausted (as they failed to approve the Ahtisaari plan). The Albanians were proclaiming the UN was no longer needed and that it had outlived its days.
They then attempted to engineer independence within the EU but that has also failed.
Now they are back at the redundant UN. I wonder why? A further sign that Kosovo's independence has hit a brick wall?
You see, the occupiers are finally realising that a final solution can only be negotiated and an imposed solution will no longer work.
Wake up and smell the coffee my dear Albanian friends. Your promise cannot be delivered and may it rest in peace.
Serbia fought well during the 90s to ensure Kosovo remains ours and that is the way it will remain - like it or not!
Are we discussing the same United States of America?
The US, as in the USA lead by George Bush, for the past 2, years has advocated full sovereign independence as soon as possible - but with international supervision by the EU/NATO (but crucially NOT the UN) because it does not believe Pristina is capable of governing itself to the standards expected.
Since March, the US has been rather quiet on this matter. And now, we find it is actually supporting a continued UN presence with FULL AUTHORITY over governance.
My last sentence is the crucial one. The US is supporting a UN mission with AUTHORITY not a UN mission subservient to Pristina.
I'm sorry if your friends in the bar see it differently.
PS. Clearly you haven't done much reading of offical documents. First the FRY, then Serbia, have very, VERY carefully maintained their stance (and it is internationally recognised as so) as the successor state to the SFRY. Serbia has never had to apply for UN membership - they already have it. Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia and now CG have all had to apply as 'new' states. :)
See what you've just done, proved that you are not speaking from a firm and factual base, just cafe small talk.
serbian areas are not getting a fair share of the KCB budget especially in infrastructure and this is why UNMIK needs to reconfigure to give more focus on this issue. projects shall be recommended and monitored by UNMIK in cooperation with serbian municipal leaders. it is only thru this way that the trust and confidence of the minorities will be built up even though it will take time.
Willie in #10 I thought you were painting a self-portrait. As far a US having doubts, the US has advocated supervised independence since the days of Ahtissari. The key element is idependent of Serbia which is permanent and will be fully supported by the US irregardless of who wins the next Presidential election.
Now I have never understood the part of where Serbia assumes the claim to the former Republic of Yugoslavia. But using that argument and the other argument that Kosovo is the heart of Serbia. Then it should only be right that Kosovo assume that position and replace Serbia in the UN.
Not really serious about the last part but it is as good an argument as I have heard that Kosovo should remain a part of Serbia. That will never happen.
It looks that you’re getting all your inspirations from your masters and idols – Americans and their false, ill proven drive-through democracy with doubled standards and supports their fight for American way of LI (f)E.
They created their land by massacre of Indians – cowboy style and now export same way to outside world by destroying ancient civilizations and cultures (enjoy to flatten everything with no mercy to feed their cultural inferiority).
You bought everything – their democratic way to force laws of no-law for American soldiers whatever they do – can’t be charged for War Crimes, Vietnam fiasco and destruction, Korea, "humanitarian bombings" of civilian targets, "liberation" of Iraq and “re-building" of Afghanistan and can be continued forever.
Ben, Ben – are those guys your are following and admiring to be your new masters, and to hide under their skirts.
There seems to be a rather large number of 'experts' commenting on B92 these days whose knowledge seems to be limited to gossip they overheard in their local cafe/bar or what they read in their favourite (somewhat biased) nationalist daily newspaper.
I suggest those 'experts' spend a bit of time carefully reading themselves what the UNSG has written, what the UNSC has decided upon and how the current developments fit into the international system.
Fact: Kosovo is not a sovereign independent state - irrespective of what the Pristina parliament does or says. It maybe one day in the future, but it is certainly not at this moment.
The only 'interesting' element of this (so-called) news report is that the US seems to be having serious doubt about the wisdom of an independent Kosovo after all. Up to 3 months ago a steady refrain was being uttered from Washington about independence as soon as possible regardless of the detractors' comments. Now, it is suggesting restraint and compromise.
Sorry to put a damper on the Albanian nationalist rhetoric and wishful thinking so common on B92 these days.
Teh EULEX will go forward. Russia ignored the proposal of the UN's Special Envoy Ahtisari in which group Russia was a FULL member. They will continua with their unconstructive behavior and strategy. This will lead to find another solution i.e. Kosova Gov.t recognizes the UNMIK jurisdiction in certain fields and takes the competences in Security, Borders, Foreign policy, law etc. leaving the UNMIK to deal with environment and nursery issiues of course in the areas with majority K-Serbs.
Can you imagine the functionality of UNMIK without the approval of the K-Gov.t and ppl??? Ban understood this and that's why porposed this plan- which needs not a new resolution it will go through with majority votes.
(lowe, 17 June 2008 14:00)
It's only teh preambul that mentions that- and the preamble is not banding.
UDI itself mentions 1244 and declares the independence based on 1244 hence makes little sense the position of opposites of UDI. In teh end you do not really pretend that the world takes lessons from Russia and Serbia on what is International Law.. please!
"Also teh independence declaration was made in line with 1244 and UDI doesn't breach it.
The only country that thinks that it does is the obscurantist Russia. Democracies think it doesn't. And Kosova is headed o become an authentic democracy- read only teh constitution and you will see it- the first big step.
(ben, 17 June 2008 11:45) "
Wrong Ben. The UDI breached 1244 loud and clear. Because 1244 recognizes Belgrade's sovereignty over Kosovo.
Ben - Some "democracy". Destroying churches and intimidating the local Serbs to try to wipe out the evidence of Serbia's culture going back hundreds of years. you are trying to rewrite history.
Democracy on paper, intimidation, murder and theft in reality.
No surprise there then. The US and EU are the architects of this new plan.
Hopefully this confrontational and aggressive attitude will change when Obama becomes president. Only then will a lasting solution be found which accomodates both sides. i.e. partition in my opinion, and no that wouldn't include a swap with Bujanovac, etc. That swap has been excluded not only by Serbia, but also by the EU and the US.
abdul aziz - who are the permanent members of the security council? the US, UK, France, Russia and China.
I wouldn't like to presume, but my guess is that Russia and China will vetoe any "reconfiguration" that they or Serbia don't like/agree with? So what's with the stupid comments - "this would surely be the FINAL BATTLE. the STRENGTH of RUSSIA will be put to a TEST. APPROVAL of this would mean RUSSIA and SERBIA'S LOSS and can send the wrong signal that RUSSIA has not yet regained the strength of the former USSR."
and B92, why are such comments allowed onto this forum. Genuine, informed comments should be allowed on, not uneducated rants.
UNSEC had many discussions on Kosova and I don't think this one will be more than discussion.
As you can see from Ban's report and also form this article the decision of Ban is in line with 1244 and no one will ask to change it.
Also teh independence declaration was made in line with 1244 and UDI doesn't breach it.
The only country that thinks that it does is the obscurantist Russia. Democracies think it doesn't. And Kosova is headed o become an authentic democracy- read only teh constitution and you will see it- the first big step.
this would surely be the FINAL BATTLE. the STRENGTH of RUSSIA will be put to a TEST. APPROVAL of this would mean RUSSIA and SERBIA'S LOSS and can send the wrong signal that RUSSIA has not yet regained the strength of the former USSR.
What? You mean that after all that, this issue is going back to the UNSC for approval after all?
In other words, everything about how to legally squeeze EULEX under the umbrella of Resolution 1244 is all talk. Any change to the resolution must be approved by the Security Council.
Instead of all this wasted time and money, perhaps the parties who speak as though independence is a done deal should have stuck to the law in the first place.
Europe is at a crucial crossroads and the worst possible time for setting precedents whereby one ethnic group can just annex the territory (a province, not a country) of a sovereign nation.
It was folly to support such a move and try to bypass all of the safeguards which protect everyone in Europe and beyond.
If the UN becomes redundant and undemocratic then it is dead in the water. And what to replace it?
Wouldn't it be great to give all of the money wasted on hot air, white jeeps, admin and weapons and give it to orphanages, schools, charities... that would be a good investment in the future for all ethnicities, wouldn't it?
It looks that you’re getting all your inspirations from your masters and idols – Americans and their false, ill proven drive-through democracy with doubled standards and supports their fight for American way of LI (f)E.
They created their land by massacre of Indians – cowboy style and now export same way to outside world by destroying ancient civilizations and cultures (enjoy to flatten everything with no mercy to feed their cultural inferiority).
You bought everything – their democratic way to force laws of no-law for American soldiers whatever they do – can’t be charged for War Crimes, Vietnam fiasco and destruction, Korea, "humanitarian bombings" of civilian targets, "liberation" of Iraq and “re-building" of Afghanistan and can be continued forever.
Ben, Ben – are those guys your are following and admiring to be your new masters, and to hide under their skirts.
What? You mean that after all that, this issue is going back to the UNSC for approval after all?
In other words, everything about how to legally squeeze EULEX under the umbrella of Resolution 1244 is all talk. Any change to the resolution must be approved by the Security Council.
Instead of all this wasted time and money, perhaps the parties who speak as though independence is a done deal should have stuck to the law in the first place.
Europe is at a crucial crossroads and the worst possible time for setting precedents whereby one ethnic group can just annex the territory (a province, not a country) of a sovereign nation.
It was folly to support such a move and try to bypass all of the safeguards which protect everyone in Europe and beyond.
If the UN becomes redundant and undemocratic then it is dead in the water. And what to replace it?
Wouldn't it be great to give all of the money wasted on hot air, white jeeps, admin and weapons and give it to orphanages, schools, charities... that would be a good investment in the future for all ethnicities, wouldn't it?
Ben - Some "democracy". Destroying churches and intimidating the local Serbs to try to wipe out the evidence of Serbia's culture going back hundreds of years. you are trying to rewrite history.
Democracy on paper, intimidation, murder and theft in reality.
"Also teh independence declaration was made in line with 1244 and UDI doesn't breach it.
The only country that thinks that it does is the obscurantist Russia. Democracies think it doesn't. And Kosova is headed o become an authentic democracy- read only teh constitution and you will see it- the first big step.
(ben, 17 June 2008 11:45) "
Wrong Ben. The UDI breached 1244 loud and clear. Because 1244 recognizes Belgrade's sovereignty over Kosovo.
There seems to be a rather large number of 'experts' commenting on B92 these days whose knowledge seems to be limited to gossip they overheard in their local cafe/bar or what they read in their favourite (somewhat biased) nationalist daily newspaper.
I suggest those 'experts' spend a bit of time carefully reading themselves what the UNSG has written, what the UNSC has decided upon and how the current developments fit into the international system.
Fact: Kosovo is not a sovereign independent state - irrespective of what the Pristina parliament does or says. It maybe one day in the future, but it is certainly not at this moment.
The only 'interesting' element of this (so-called) news report is that the US seems to be having serious doubt about the wisdom of an independent Kosovo after all. Up to 3 months ago a steady refrain was being uttered from Washington about independence as soon as possible regardless of the detractors' comments. Now, it is suggesting restraint and compromise.
Sorry to put a damper on the Albanian nationalist rhetoric and wishful thinking so common on B92 these days.
Are we discussing the same United States of America?
The US, as in the USA lead by George Bush, for the past 2, years has advocated full sovereign independence as soon as possible - but with international supervision by the EU/NATO (but crucially NOT the UN) because it does not believe Pristina is capable of governing itself to the standards expected.
Since March, the US has been rather quiet on this matter. And now, we find it is actually supporting a continued UN presence with FULL AUTHORITY over governance.
My last sentence is the crucial one. The US is supporting a UN mission with AUTHORITY not a UN mission subservient to Pristina.
I'm sorry if your friends in the bar see it differently.
PS. Clearly you haven't done much reading of offical documents. First the FRY, then Serbia, have very, VERY carefully maintained their stance (and it is internationally recognised as so) as the successor state to the SFRY. Serbia has never had to apply for UN membership - they already have it. Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia and now CG have all had to apply as 'new' states. :)
See what you've just done, proved that you are not speaking from a firm and factual base, just cafe small talk.
this would surely be the FINAL BATTLE. the STRENGTH of RUSSIA will be put to a TEST. APPROVAL of this would mean RUSSIA and SERBIA'S LOSS and can send the wrong signal that RUSSIA has not yet regained the strength of the former USSR.
It was only a short while ago that both the US and EU mentioned Kosovo's solution within the UN had been exhausted (as they failed to approve the Ahtisaari plan). The Albanians were proclaiming the UN was no longer needed and that it had outlived its days.
They then attempted to engineer independence within the EU but that has also failed.
Now they are back at the redundant UN. I wonder why? A further sign that Kosovo's independence has hit a brick wall?
You see, the occupiers are finally realising that a final solution can only be negotiated and an imposed solution will no longer work.
Wake up and smell the coffee my dear Albanian friends. Your promise cannot be delivered and may it rest in peace.
Serbia fought well during the 90s to ensure Kosovo remains ours and that is the way it will remain - like it or not!
Teh EULEX will go forward. Russia ignored the proposal of the UN's Special Envoy Ahtisari in which group Russia was a FULL member. They will continua with their unconstructive behavior and strategy. This will lead to find another solution i.e. Kosova Gov.t recognizes the UNMIK jurisdiction in certain fields and takes the competences in Security, Borders, Foreign policy, law etc. leaving the UNMIK to deal with environment and nursery issiues of course in the areas with majority K-Serbs.
Can you imagine the functionality of UNMIK without the approval of the K-Gov.t and ppl??? Ban understood this and that's why porposed this plan- which needs not a new resolution it will go through with majority votes.
(lowe, 17 June 2008 14:00)
It's only teh preambul that mentions that- and the preamble is not banding.
UDI itself mentions 1244 and declares the independence based on 1244 hence makes little sense the position of opposites of UDI. In teh end you do not really pretend that the world takes lessons from Russia and Serbia on what is International Law.. please!
No surprise there then. The US and EU are the architects of this new plan.
Hopefully this confrontational and aggressive attitude will change when Obama becomes president. Only then will a lasting solution be found which accomodates both sides. i.e. partition in my opinion, and no that wouldn't include a swap with Bujanovac, etc. That swap has been excluded not only by Serbia, but also by the EU and the US.
abdul aziz - who are the permanent members of the security council? the US, UK, France, Russia and China.
I wouldn't like to presume, but my guess is that Russia and China will vetoe any "reconfiguration" that they or Serbia don't like/agree with? So what's with the stupid comments - "this would surely be the FINAL BATTLE. the STRENGTH of RUSSIA will be put to a TEST. APPROVAL of this would mean RUSSIA and SERBIA'S LOSS and can send the wrong signal that RUSSIA has not yet regained the strength of the former USSR."
and B92, why are such comments allowed onto this forum. Genuine, informed comments should be allowed on, not uneducated rants.
UNSEC had many discussions on Kosova and I don't think this one will be more than discussion.
As you can see from Ban's report and also form this article the decision of Ban is in line with 1244 and no one will ask to change it.
Also teh independence declaration was made in line with 1244 and UDI doesn't breach it.
The only country that thinks that it does is the obscurantist Russia. Democracies think it doesn't. And Kosova is headed o become an authentic democracy- read only teh constitution and you will see it- the first big step.
Willie in #10 I thought you were painting a self-portrait. As far a US having doubts, the US has advocated supervised independence since the days of Ahtissari. The key element is idependent of Serbia which is permanent and will be fully supported by the US irregardless of who wins the next Presidential election.
Now I have never understood the part of where Serbia assumes the claim to the former Republic of Yugoslavia. But using that argument and the other argument that Kosovo is the heart of Serbia. Then it should only be right that Kosovo assume that position and replace Serbia in the UN.
Not really serious about the last part but it is as good an argument as I have heard that Kosovo should remain a part of Serbia. That will never happen.
Actually technically no one succeeded SFRY, FRY did have to apply for a seat just like Croatia (remember the justification for Serbia not being able to sue NATO over the bombing?).
UNSC 1244 applied to FRY and Serbia is the legal successor to FRY and currently holds that seat in the UN. By agreement with Montenegro (and recognized by the UN and everyone else), Montenegro applied for a “new” seat in the UN because they were the ones to leave FRY.
Anyways, silly point, but there’s a lot of misunderstanding about Serbia and international law.
Come on Ben, I’m waiting for you to make the argument that Rambouillet somehow goes against the Helsinki Act, you know that “will of the people” quote you guys always use. Am I not worthy?
You sure did: burning houses, killing and raping civilians. Do you know what really happened or just don't care?
(Al, 18 June 2008 02:26)
The Albanians were doing that during peaceful times as recently as 2004 or don't you care to remember?
The accusations against Serbia and Serbian forces have been proven incorrect and used just for propaganda purposes. Sure there were isolated crimes but that is within the norm and the people responsible were prosecuted.
What about the thousands of Albanian murderes running free as we speak and currently serving is the puppet government? There is no effort whatsoever to prosecute them.
Also NATO bombs killed more people than the conflict prior and the criminals who ordered them still remain free.
Serbia, Serbians and most of the world know who the real criminals are!
serbian areas are not getting a fair share of the KCB budget especially in infrastructure and this is why UNMIK needs to reconfigure to give more focus on this issue. projects shall be recommended and monitored by UNMIK in cooperation with serbian municipal leaders. it is only thru this way that the trust and confidence of the minorities will be built up even though it will take time.
You are indeed correct and I was wrong: FRY assumed the status as successor state unilateraly. This was rejected by the UN at the same time as suspending them from UN membership!
UNSEC had many discussions on Kosova and I don't think this one will be more than discussion.
As you can see from Ban's report and also form this article the decision of Ban is in line with 1244 and no one will ask to change it.
Also teh independence declaration was made in line with 1244 and UDI doesn't breach it.
The only country that thinks that it does is the obscurantist Russia. Democracies think it doesn't. And Kosova is headed o become an authentic democracy- read only teh constitution and you will see it- the first big step.
Teh EULEX will go forward. Russia ignored the proposal of the UN's Special Envoy Ahtisari in which group Russia was a FULL member. They will continua with their unconstructive behavior and strategy. This will lead to find another solution i.e. Kosova Gov.t recognizes the UNMIK jurisdiction in certain fields and takes the competences in Security, Borders, Foreign policy, law etc. leaving the UNMIK to deal with environment and nursery issiues of course in the areas with majority K-Serbs.
Can you imagine the functionality of UNMIK without the approval of the K-Gov.t and ppl??? Ban understood this and that's why porposed this plan- which needs not a new resolution it will go through with majority votes.
(lowe, 17 June 2008 14:00)
It's only teh preambul that mentions that- and the preamble is not banding.
UDI itself mentions 1244 and declares the independence based on 1244 hence makes little sense the position of opposites of UDI. In teh end you do not really pretend that the world takes lessons from Russia and Serbia on what is International Law.. please!
Willie in #10 I thought you were painting a self-portrait. As far a US having doubts, the US has advocated supervised independence since the days of Ahtissari. The key element is idependent of Serbia which is permanent and will be fully supported by the US irregardless of who wins the next Presidential election.
Now I have never understood the part of where Serbia assumes the claim to the former Republic of Yugoslavia. But using that argument and the other argument that Kosovo is the heart of Serbia. Then it should only be right that Kosovo assume that position and replace Serbia in the UN.
Not really serious about the last part but it is as good an argument as I have heard that Kosovo should remain a part of Serbia. That will never happen.
"Also teh independence declaration was made in line with 1244 and UDI doesn't breach it.
The only country that thinks that it does is the obscurantist Russia. Democracies think it doesn't. And Kosova is headed o become an authentic democracy- read only teh constitution and you will see it- the first big step.
(ben, 17 June 2008 11:45) "
Wrong Ben. The UDI breached 1244 loud and clear. Because 1244 recognizes Belgrade's sovereignty over Kosovo.
It looks that you’re getting all your inspirations from your masters and idols – Americans and their false, ill proven drive-through democracy with doubled standards and supports their fight for American way of LI (f)E.
They created their land by massacre of Indians – cowboy style and now export same way to outside world by destroying ancient civilizations and cultures (enjoy to flatten everything with no mercy to feed their cultural inferiority).
You bought everything – their democratic way to force laws of no-law for American soldiers whatever they do – can’t be charged for War Crimes, Vietnam fiasco and destruction, Korea, "humanitarian bombings" of civilian targets, "liberation" of Iraq and “re-building" of Afghanistan and can be continued forever.
Ben, Ben – are those guys your are following and admiring to be your new masters, and to hide under their skirts.
What? You mean that after all that, this issue is going back to the UNSC for approval after all?
In other words, everything about how to legally squeeze EULEX under the umbrella of Resolution 1244 is all talk. Any change to the resolution must be approved by the Security Council.
Instead of all this wasted time and money, perhaps the parties who speak as though independence is a done deal should have stuck to the law in the first place.
Europe is at a crucial crossroads and the worst possible time for setting precedents whereby one ethnic group can just annex the territory (a province, not a country) of a sovereign nation.
It was folly to support such a move and try to bypass all of the safeguards which protect everyone in Europe and beyond.
If the UN becomes redundant and undemocratic then it is dead in the water. And what to replace it?
Wouldn't it be great to give all of the money wasted on hot air, white jeeps, admin and weapons and give it to orphanages, schools, charities... that would be a good investment in the future for all ethnicities, wouldn't it?
this would surely be the FINAL BATTLE. the STRENGTH of RUSSIA will be put to a TEST. APPROVAL of this would mean RUSSIA and SERBIA'S LOSS and can send the wrong signal that RUSSIA has not yet regained the strength of the former USSR.
No surprise there then. The US and EU are the architects of this new plan.
Hopefully this confrontational and aggressive attitude will change when Obama becomes president. Only then will a lasting solution be found which accomodates both sides. i.e. partition in my opinion, and no that wouldn't include a swap with Bujanovac, etc. That swap has been excluded not only by Serbia, but also by the EU and the US.
abdul aziz - who are the permanent members of the security council? the US, UK, France, Russia and China.
I wouldn't like to presume, but my guess is that Russia and China will vetoe any "reconfiguration" that they or Serbia don't like/agree with? So what's with the stupid comments - "this would surely be the FINAL BATTLE. the STRENGTH of RUSSIA will be put to a TEST. APPROVAL of this would mean RUSSIA and SERBIA'S LOSS and can send the wrong signal that RUSSIA has not yet regained the strength of the former USSR."
and B92, why are such comments allowed onto this forum. Genuine, informed comments should be allowed on, not uneducated rants.
Ben - Some "democracy". Destroying churches and intimidating the local Serbs to try to wipe out the evidence of Serbia's culture going back hundreds of years. you are trying to rewrite history.
Democracy on paper, intimidation, murder and theft in reality.
There seems to be a rather large number of 'experts' commenting on B92 these days whose knowledge seems to be limited to gossip they overheard in their local cafe/bar or what they read in their favourite (somewhat biased) nationalist daily newspaper.
I suggest those 'experts' spend a bit of time carefully reading themselves what the UNSG has written, what the UNSC has decided upon and how the current developments fit into the international system.
Fact: Kosovo is not a sovereign independent state - irrespective of what the Pristina parliament does or says. It maybe one day in the future, but it is certainly not at this moment.
The only 'interesting' element of this (so-called) news report is that the US seems to be having serious doubt about the wisdom of an independent Kosovo after all. Up to 3 months ago a steady refrain was being uttered from Washington about independence as soon as possible regardless of the detractors' comments. Now, it is suggesting restraint and compromise.
Sorry to put a damper on the Albanian nationalist rhetoric and wishful thinking so common on B92 these days.
serbian areas are not getting a fair share of the KCB budget especially in infrastructure and this is why UNMIK needs to reconfigure to give more focus on this issue. projects shall be recommended and monitored by UNMIK in cooperation with serbian municipal leaders. it is only thru this way that the trust and confidence of the minorities will be built up even though it will take time.
Are we discussing the same United States of America?
The US, as in the USA lead by George Bush, for the past 2, years has advocated full sovereign independence as soon as possible - but with international supervision by the EU/NATO (but crucially NOT the UN) because it does not believe Pristina is capable of governing itself to the standards expected.
Since March, the US has been rather quiet on this matter. And now, we find it is actually supporting a continued UN presence with FULL AUTHORITY over governance.
My last sentence is the crucial one. The US is supporting a UN mission with AUTHORITY not a UN mission subservient to Pristina.
I'm sorry if your friends in the bar see it differently.
PS. Clearly you haven't done much reading of offical documents. First the FRY, then Serbia, have very, VERY carefully maintained their stance (and it is internationally recognised as so) as the successor state to the SFRY. Serbia has never had to apply for UN membership - they already have it. Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia and now CG have all had to apply as 'new' states. :)
See what you've just done, proved that you are not speaking from a firm and factual base, just cafe small talk.
It was only a short while ago that both the US and EU mentioned Kosovo's solution within the UN had been exhausted (as they failed to approve the Ahtisaari plan). The Albanians were proclaiming the UN was no longer needed and that it had outlived its days.
They then attempted to engineer independence within the EU but that has also failed.
Now they are back at the redundant UN. I wonder why? A further sign that Kosovo's independence has hit a brick wall?
You see, the occupiers are finally realising that a final solution can only be negotiated and an imposed solution will no longer work.
Wake up and smell the coffee my dear Albanian friends. Your promise cannot be delivered and may it rest in peace.
Serbia fought well during the 90s to ensure Kosovo remains ours and that is the way it will remain - like it or not!
Actually technically no one succeeded SFRY, FRY did have to apply for a seat just like Croatia (remember the justification for Serbia not being able to sue NATO over the bombing?).
UNSC 1244 applied to FRY and Serbia is the legal successor to FRY and currently holds that seat in the UN. By agreement with Montenegro (and recognized by the UN and everyone else), Montenegro applied for a “new” seat in the UN because they were the ones to leave FRY.
Anyways, silly point, but there’s a lot of misunderstanding about Serbia and international law.
Come on Ben, I’m waiting for you to make the argument that Rambouillet somehow goes against the Helsinki Act, you know that “will of the people” quote you guys always use. Am I not worthy?
You sure did: burning houses, killing and raping civilians. Do you know what really happened or just don't care?
(Al, 18 June 2008 02:26)
The Albanians were doing that during peaceful times as recently as 2004 or don't you care to remember?
The accusations against Serbia and Serbian forces have been proven incorrect and used just for propaganda purposes. Sure there were isolated crimes but that is within the norm and the people responsible were prosecuted.
What about the thousands of Albanian murderes running free as we speak and currently serving is the puppet government? There is no effort whatsoever to prosecute them.
Also NATO bombs killed more people than the conflict prior and the criminals who ordered them still remain free.
Serbia, Serbians and most of the world know who the real criminals are!
You are indeed correct and I was wrong: FRY assumed the status as successor state unilateraly. This was rejected by the UN at the same time as suspending them from UN membership!
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