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Tuesday, 10.06.2008.

09:26

No definitive decision from SPS-PUPS-JS

The coalition grouped around the Socialist Party of Serbia (SPS) will not formulate a definite position on forming a governing coalition today, says Ivica Dačić.

Izvor: B92

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bganon

pre 15 godina

Princip I think its possible to say you support the ratification of something before it is signed. What is controversial about that? In the normal world when you are for an agreement that means the whole process through to the end. It was only DSS that started out supporting SAA and then wanted to annul it.

You might note that Holland have not annulled the SAA and nor will they. You should check the definition in a legal sense. Something that is annulled must be re-negotiated from the beginning. Something that is not ratified today can be ratified tomorrow.

The use of the word annulment was a serious political mistake by DSS!

Princip, UK

pre 15 godina

Brian,

well looks like Holland have annulled it anyway;

The Netherlands to reject EU-Serbia accord: report
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1213134423.24

So even if D yeS to all that EUrope demands wanted to do as you say it is now all history seeing as the Dutch now backtrack on what was clearly just a political game being played to boost D yeS to all that EUrope demands chances in the Serbian elections!

Thus Serbia's parliment should not bother with a defunct agreemment seeing as the Dutch reject it!

There is one point that sprung to mind - arkovic (JS leader) in B92 it's stated that he said he based his coalition decision on ratifying SAA;

"He said that his political platform three months ago had been ratification of the SAA, and that he had entered the coalition with the SPS and PUPS on that self same platform. "
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=50894

- but how could he have done that when SAA had not even been signed till CONvienently for D yeS just before elections ? Either the B92 article misquotes or Markovic has a very poor memeory over coalition choices.

Nikola

pre 15 godina

Looking at it politically and not taking sides.. a DS-SPS coalition will not last its full mandate.

How can a coalition composed of Social Democrats (DS), Pro Market Capitalists (G17), Separatist Parties (LSV),(SDA) Pro Monarchist (SPO), and now a Socialist party (SPS), a war veterans party (PUPS), and a National Conservative Party (JS) possibly run out its full mandate.

It is no secret I prefer a SRS-DSS-NS-SPS-PUPS-JS coalition... however I truly hope this new coalition pro Tadic coalition if its formed, runs out its full mandate because I am for stability before anything else.

As for the SPS, thank you for double crossing most of your electorate in the back (including me) this was the first year I was eligible to vote and I did, and now I see my vote was bought off by neo-liberal minions.

SPS, you crossed your deceased leader in the back, and say what you want about him... but he didn't run to some beach in Montenegro like the DS's deceased leader did.

Dorcol

pre 15 godina

SPS, if you make a coalition with DS and let those spineless politicians back in power then may your parties last days rest in peace.

Brian

pre 15 godina

Princip,

The SAA can not be ratified with "with a clear and unequivocal understanding that Serbia with its integral province Kosovo & Metohija is the equal memeber" because Article 135 of the SAA says, "The Agreement shall not apply in Kosovo which is at present under international administration pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 of 10 June 1999. This is without prejudice to the current status of Kosovo or the determination of its final status under the same Resolution."

The Belguim FM didn't interpret the SAA incorrectly. Tadic did sign it on behalf of Serbia minus Kosovo.

The Serbian Government has two choices. It can annul the SAA or it can ratify it.

If Serbia ratifies the SAA, it gains the possibility of eventual EU membership by forsaking Kosovo. If Serbia does that there will be a tidal wave of international recognition for Kosovo independence, because it is a clear signal that Serbia is willing to give-up Kosovo in exchange for EU membership.

If Serbia annuls the SAA, the the EU is out the door, but Kosovo's international recognition will be stalled and it will remain Serbia's (mostly) internationally recognized province.

Nick

pre 15 godina

They do not have the slightest concern about the country. The DSS and SRS are two true Serbian parties holding the country's interest. The rest are all scavengers!!

Princip, UK

pre 15 godina

The key thing is that a new Goverenment is formed that is stable and does last the full term - that is the most important aspect for foreign investment irrespective of a SRS-DSS-NS or D yeS to all that Europe demands centered coalition.

Which way SPS-PUPS-JS decide to go is their decision and they must ensure real stability underpins this government because which ever way they go Serbia and all its citizens deserve a stable, strong and certain governance over the next 4 years as there will be many who will continue to illegally challenge its sovereignty!

Which ever coalition they decide upon the new government will need to do 2 things rapidly;

1. SAA ratified conditioned with a clear and unequivocal understanding that Serbia with its integral province Kosovo & Metohija is the equal memeber this contract applies to! For that to be understood and clarified without individual interpretations such as the likes of Belguim with their FM who thinks otherwise - there can be no individual choice when it comes to teh sovereignity of an 'equal' partner!!!

2. Ratification of NIS sale to Gazprom and the adoption of rapid and clear opportunities for energy security in Serbia. Clearing all channels for the rapid development of NIS into a great and substantial asset for Serbia and Russia's Gazprom and making that happen without red tape - just get do it!

Thise 2 points are the key to a stable and prosperous sovereign Serbia and either way SPS coalition goes both elements must be adopted - this would ensure a full reflection of the Serbian electorate.

Princip, UK

pre 15 godina

The key thing is that a new Goverenment is formed that is stable and does last the full term - that is the most important aspect for foreign investment irrespective of a SRS-DSS-NS or D yeS to all that Europe demands centered coalition.

Which way SPS-PUPS-JS decide to go is their decision and they must ensure real stability underpins this government because which ever way they go Serbia and all its citizens deserve a stable, strong and certain governance over the next 4 years as there will be many who will continue to illegally challenge its sovereignty!

Which ever coalition they decide upon the new government will need to do 2 things rapidly;

1. SAA ratified conditioned with a clear and unequivocal understanding that Serbia with its integral province Kosovo & Metohija is the equal memeber this contract applies to! For that to be understood and clarified without individual interpretations such as the likes of Belguim with their FM who thinks otherwise - there can be no individual choice when it comes to teh sovereignity of an 'equal' partner!!!

2. Ratification of NIS sale to Gazprom and the adoption of rapid and clear opportunities for energy security in Serbia. Clearing all channels for the rapid development of NIS into a great and substantial asset for Serbia and Russia's Gazprom and making that happen without red tape - just get do it!

Thise 2 points are the key to a stable and prosperous sovereign Serbia and either way SPS coalition goes both elements must be adopted - this would ensure a full reflection of the Serbian electorate.

Nick

pre 15 godina

They do not have the slightest concern about the country. The DSS and SRS are two true Serbian parties holding the country's interest. The rest are all scavengers!!

Brian

pre 15 godina

Princip,

The SAA can not be ratified with "with a clear and unequivocal understanding that Serbia with its integral province Kosovo & Metohija is the equal memeber" because Article 135 of the SAA says, "The Agreement shall not apply in Kosovo which is at present under international administration pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 of 10 June 1999. This is without prejudice to the current status of Kosovo or the determination of its final status under the same Resolution."

The Belguim FM didn't interpret the SAA incorrectly. Tadic did sign it on behalf of Serbia minus Kosovo.

The Serbian Government has two choices. It can annul the SAA or it can ratify it.

If Serbia ratifies the SAA, it gains the possibility of eventual EU membership by forsaking Kosovo. If Serbia does that there will be a tidal wave of international recognition for Kosovo independence, because it is a clear signal that Serbia is willing to give-up Kosovo in exchange for EU membership.

If Serbia annuls the SAA, the the EU is out the door, but Kosovo's international recognition will be stalled and it will remain Serbia's (mostly) internationally recognized province.

Dorcol

pre 15 godina

SPS, if you make a coalition with DS and let those spineless politicians back in power then may your parties last days rest in peace.

Nikola

pre 15 godina

Looking at it politically and not taking sides.. a DS-SPS coalition will not last its full mandate.

How can a coalition composed of Social Democrats (DS), Pro Market Capitalists (G17), Separatist Parties (LSV),(SDA) Pro Monarchist (SPO), and now a Socialist party (SPS), a war veterans party (PUPS), and a National Conservative Party (JS) possibly run out its full mandate.

It is no secret I prefer a SRS-DSS-NS-SPS-PUPS-JS coalition... however I truly hope this new coalition pro Tadic coalition if its formed, runs out its full mandate because I am for stability before anything else.

As for the SPS, thank you for double crossing most of your electorate in the back (including me) this was the first year I was eligible to vote and I did, and now I see my vote was bought off by neo-liberal minions.

SPS, you crossed your deceased leader in the back, and say what you want about him... but he didn't run to some beach in Montenegro like the DS's deceased leader did.

Princip, UK

pre 15 godina

Brian,

well looks like Holland have annulled it anyway;

The Netherlands to reject EU-Serbia accord: report
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1213134423.24

So even if D yeS to all that EUrope demands wanted to do as you say it is now all history seeing as the Dutch now backtrack on what was clearly just a political game being played to boost D yeS to all that EUrope demands chances in the Serbian elections!

Thus Serbia's parliment should not bother with a defunct agreemment seeing as the Dutch reject it!

There is one point that sprung to mind - arkovic (JS leader) in B92 it's stated that he said he based his coalition decision on ratifying SAA;

"He said that his political platform three months ago had been ratification of the SAA, and that he had entered the coalition with the SPS and PUPS on that self same platform. "
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=50894

- but how could he have done that when SAA had not even been signed till CONvienently for D yeS just before elections ? Either the B92 article misquotes or Markovic has a very poor memeory over coalition choices.

bganon

pre 15 godina

Princip I think its possible to say you support the ratification of something before it is signed. What is controversial about that? In the normal world when you are for an agreement that means the whole process through to the end. It was only DSS that started out supporting SAA and then wanted to annul it.

You might note that Holland have not annulled the SAA and nor will they. You should check the definition in a legal sense. Something that is annulled must be re-negotiated from the beginning. Something that is not ratified today can be ratified tomorrow.

The use of the word annulment was a serious political mistake by DSS!

bganon

pre 15 godina

Princip I think its possible to say you support the ratification of something before it is signed. What is controversial about that? In the normal world when you are for an agreement that means the whole process through to the end. It was only DSS that started out supporting SAA and then wanted to annul it.

You might note that Holland have not annulled the SAA and nor will they. You should check the definition in a legal sense. Something that is annulled must be re-negotiated from the beginning. Something that is not ratified today can be ratified tomorrow.

The use of the word annulment was a serious political mistake by DSS!

Princip, UK

pre 15 godina

The key thing is that a new Goverenment is formed that is stable and does last the full term - that is the most important aspect for foreign investment irrespective of a SRS-DSS-NS or D yeS to all that Europe demands centered coalition.

Which way SPS-PUPS-JS decide to go is their decision and they must ensure real stability underpins this government because which ever way they go Serbia and all its citizens deserve a stable, strong and certain governance over the next 4 years as there will be many who will continue to illegally challenge its sovereignty!

Which ever coalition they decide upon the new government will need to do 2 things rapidly;

1. SAA ratified conditioned with a clear and unequivocal understanding that Serbia with its integral province Kosovo & Metohija is the equal memeber this contract applies to! For that to be understood and clarified without individual interpretations such as the likes of Belguim with their FM who thinks otherwise - there can be no individual choice when it comes to teh sovereignity of an 'equal' partner!!!

2. Ratification of NIS sale to Gazprom and the adoption of rapid and clear opportunities for energy security in Serbia. Clearing all channels for the rapid development of NIS into a great and substantial asset for Serbia and Russia's Gazprom and making that happen without red tape - just get do it!

Thise 2 points are the key to a stable and prosperous sovereign Serbia and either way SPS coalition goes both elements must be adopted - this would ensure a full reflection of the Serbian electorate.

Nick

pre 15 godina

They do not have the slightest concern about the country. The DSS and SRS are two true Serbian parties holding the country's interest. The rest are all scavengers!!

Brian

pre 15 godina

Princip,

The SAA can not be ratified with "with a clear and unequivocal understanding that Serbia with its integral province Kosovo & Metohija is the equal memeber" because Article 135 of the SAA says, "The Agreement shall not apply in Kosovo which is at present under international administration pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 of 10 June 1999. This is without prejudice to the current status of Kosovo or the determination of its final status under the same Resolution."

The Belguim FM didn't interpret the SAA incorrectly. Tadic did sign it on behalf of Serbia minus Kosovo.

The Serbian Government has two choices. It can annul the SAA or it can ratify it.

If Serbia ratifies the SAA, it gains the possibility of eventual EU membership by forsaking Kosovo. If Serbia does that there will be a tidal wave of international recognition for Kosovo independence, because it is a clear signal that Serbia is willing to give-up Kosovo in exchange for EU membership.

If Serbia annuls the SAA, the the EU is out the door, but Kosovo's international recognition will be stalled and it will remain Serbia's (mostly) internationally recognized province.

Dorcol

pre 15 godina

SPS, if you make a coalition with DS and let those spineless politicians back in power then may your parties last days rest in peace.

Nikola

pre 15 godina

Looking at it politically and not taking sides.. a DS-SPS coalition will not last its full mandate.

How can a coalition composed of Social Democrats (DS), Pro Market Capitalists (G17), Separatist Parties (LSV),(SDA) Pro Monarchist (SPO), and now a Socialist party (SPS), a war veterans party (PUPS), and a National Conservative Party (JS) possibly run out its full mandate.

It is no secret I prefer a SRS-DSS-NS-SPS-PUPS-JS coalition... however I truly hope this new coalition pro Tadic coalition if its formed, runs out its full mandate because I am for stability before anything else.

As for the SPS, thank you for double crossing most of your electorate in the back (including me) this was the first year I was eligible to vote and I did, and now I see my vote was bought off by neo-liberal minions.

SPS, you crossed your deceased leader in the back, and say what you want about him... but he didn't run to some beach in Montenegro like the DS's deceased leader did.

Princip, UK

pre 15 godina

Brian,

well looks like Holland have annulled it anyway;

The Netherlands to reject EU-Serbia accord: report
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1213134423.24

So even if D yeS to all that EUrope demands wanted to do as you say it is now all history seeing as the Dutch now backtrack on what was clearly just a political game being played to boost D yeS to all that EUrope demands chances in the Serbian elections!

Thus Serbia's parliment should not bother with a defunct agreemment seeing as the Dutch reject it!

There is one point that sprung to mind - arkovic (JS leader) in B92 it's stated that he said he based his coalition decision on ratifying SAA;

"He said that his political platform three months ago had been ratification of the SAA, and that he had entered the coalition with the SPS and PUPS on that self same platform. "
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=50894

- but how could he have done that when SAA had not even been signed till CONvienently for D yeS just before elections ? Either the B92 article misquotes or Markovic has a very poor memeory over coalition choices.