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Thursday, 05.06.2008.

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Minister walks out of Oslo conference

Education Minister Zoran Lončar, DSS, has walked out of an informal conference of European education ministers in Oslo.

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rolerkoster

pre 15 godina

Milosevic would be very happy to see that the conflicts based on his policy continue until 2008. There is no other place of open hatress so they are working hard on their arguments. the image of Serbia is based on such guys, whose mandate is hatress. walk out of Europe, ZK and Tom! UDI is recognised from the states where you are living.

vujadin

pre 15 godina

Well what was he supposed to do, sit there with another american puppet regime (albanians)? when americans say jump, albanians ask how high..
(Ratko, 5 June 2008 21:01)

they ask how high while already on their way up...

Endri, Albania

pre 15 godina

Jovan: I believe my eyes while you believe the ears. Check the end of the six part of "Stolen Kosovo" and you will see where are taken the materials from, Serbian propaganda or west. In case of western contribution it would have been broadcasted europawide. As for the fear that you mention, I can say you that the only issue which I have NO fear is Kosovo. No doubt about that, because thanks to god the Russian, Balkan troublemakers are not in the position of 100 years ago. That is why the democracy will prevail over neo-communisms of Putvedev.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

to Endri:

those videos are made by western journalists with western filmed material.

so your comment they are manipulated by serbian material is a blatant lie and only demonstrates the cheap level of deceit to which you are doomed...

Serbia will be back, and your lies will be forgotten.

that´s what you fear.

Endri, Albania

pre 15 godina

To Klinko Vladimir,

"( look at videos on internet german:es hat begonnen mit eine luege, or Czech:uloupene Kosovo(stolen kosovo)(Film made by Czechian State TV,forbiden in democratic Czechian europian land)"

You provide here twho movies which according to you tell the reality!!! Both are made with significant support of the materials (propaganda) provided from RT Serbia. There fore they can not be credible. At the end of the Czech movie you can clearly read it. The fact that it has not been allowed to be broadcasted is the best advertisement that can do a democratic and European state like Czech Republic which respects the value of the truth. There are hundred of movies which speak against your claims.

"Why is the Kosovo more important than Tibet,Northern ireland, Sri lanka, Chechenien,Baskia,Texas,.."

Did china, UK, Spain, US attacked/destroyed/killed the respective areas/population with military and paramilitary forces like Serbia did. I think not. The only exception is Russia in Chechnya. But she is you alley so probably you have learned some tactics from her.

"the answer is that USA has occupied southern europe with 70.000 soldiers in serbian province Kosovo in Bondstill base, the second biggest base outside territories of USA"

You are rally totally misinformed. Firstly if you refer to 70000 American soldiers in Kosovo then you should know that the number is less than 5000 out of 17000 NATO soldiers. Secondly Bondsteel is the second largest base in Europe after Ramstein in Germany and NOT outside US.

"which counntry,afterWWII, has send their soldier in countries that does not bouder with them. I know only one country-USA(Cuba,Nicuaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Korea,Afghanistan,Somalia,Serbia..."

NATO, UN peacemakers are everywhere. These forces are comprised not only of American but several armies.

Djuro UK

pre 15 godina

Miri..........."There is nothing wrong with walking out, especially in Kosovar perspective. One last walk-out that Serbia has to do is to walk out of Kosova once and for all" = ETHNIC CLEANSING

ben

pre 15 godina

With this walk out is really putting in embarrassing position the Kosovar side. If I show he will leave the meeting. It's not nice neither polite.

I suggets that you do walk out once and for good FROM KOSOVAS LIFE.

As the entire civilized world is suggesting you- that’s why they recognized the independence.

Luigi: because it's the only way that ppl like them get a Schengen visa- bloody isolation, provincialism...

Ardi

pre 15 godina

How long ar they going to do this?
No one cares if they walk out, don't they see. Everyone knows Serbias stance regarding KosovA, and still they slap them in the face. Serbs walk out and the meeting continues ...

PRN

pre 15 godina

Dear all,

I think Serbia should train/exercise different types of walk-outs at home, making it more spectacular.

How about walking out dancing?

You really amaze me...:)

It widely expected that Serbia SOON is going to enter in Guiness Book of Records with conference walk-outs.

AT LEAST you are NOT walking out for nothing...:)

Cheers

Klinko Vladimir

pre 15 godina

When one minister leaves from a one meeting like this, it is exact the same thing if the Czech minister has left from 1938 Munich summit,when USA,Italy,Germany,Great Britain and France gave admittance for Hitlers Germany occupation of Czechian land where lived majority of Germans(then started world war II)... Those 5 lands were the first to admitt kosovo as one independant land, eventhough Kosovo unemployment rate is 60% procent, the organized crime(drug trafficking,human trafficking,corruption,by the information from INTERPOL is the biggest in europe... we,ordinary people, hope that our intelligence will stop be insulting, while we beleive in truth and facts, and not in propaganda and mind control! ( look at videos on internet german:es hat begonnen mit eine luege, or Czech:uloupene Kosovo(stolen kosovo)(Film made by Czechian State TV,forbiden in democratic Czechian europian land)
Why is the Kosovo more important than Tibet,Northern ireland, Sri lanka, Chechenien,Baskia,Texas, and all oteher region in the world that seek independece?the answer is that USA has occupied southern europe with 70.000 soldiers in serbian province Kosovo in Bondstill base, the second biggest base outside territories of USA.
As one cosmopolite,and as one humanloving person ask yourself, which counntry,afterWWII, has send their soldier in countries that does not bouder with them. I know only one country-USA(Cuba,Nicuaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Korea,Afghanistan,Somalia,Serbia...
Look deep inside yourself, and ask yourself is the false patriotismus and propaganda more important than our childrens future(i do not glorify Serbia,Albania,Germany,Russia,China or any other country)then happines and and smile on our childrens faces!!!
I have seen tears in all ex-yugoslav children, and for me it is more important than Trillaterall commision,Bildrberg group, and Comitee 300(people that make governments,wars,world crisis,create sicknesses) which run our unhuman world...

Daveo Dinkum

pre 15 godina

For centuries the Serbian people have never backed down and given in to invaders and people that wish to walk over them. This is another cycle in our history where we are all presented with challenges and you will all find out again how hard it is to break the will of Serbs. You won't shut us up as long as we live. Freedom and justice will eventually prevail, it always does.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

To American"

Most "American" -s don't even know where Balkan or Europe is.
"American"-s posting here have strong connections to the area (like myself). I don't think, it is proper to pull out any particular passport and shovel it under everybody's nose. I did it by request only just because some people from a certain Southern province of Serbia cannot imagine, Hungarians or Americans may have an opinion different from their governments and are not brainwashed.

Re-walking out: it's a double-edged sword.

This is/was practiced many times, the most famous "walk-out" was the Soviet walk-out before the Korean conflict. That was a diplomatic disaster and ultimately resulted in prolonged conflict and partition of Korea. Had the Soviets not walk out, they would be in a much stronger position later.

Better to remember the Korean case and use that sword with caution.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 15 godina

To PJD,
It is obvious that you have no clue on situation in Northern Ireland. Check your history books. Since 1801 when UK adjoined Northern Ireland to the Kingdom arbitrarily and without Irish consent there was tryouts for negotiations only to end without success. Many Irish imprisoned, tortured and died. Many British killed and injured. This gave birth to IRA. Still no peace to today. And here you are talking about mature and proper negotiations.
Yugoslavia was a federation and each constituive member had a right to succede. So how can you talk about Yugoslavian integrity when each member exercised their own right of self determination. Anyway, after 1989 there was no Yugoslavia. Though,there was a Serboslavia.

Kosovar

pre 15 godina

You can't possibly compare the UK with Serbia for god's sake. UK doesn't go to Ireland to kill civilians, expell the rest, and burn all of their homes. From what I remember none of the british leaders and generals and definitely not their prime minister or the queen went to the international tribunal for war crimes. Serbia made a mess and if they want to gain the respect, the least they should do is a public appology to all the neighbours.

Quoting:

"The UK and the Republic of Ireland have both been mature enough to have proper negotiations with each other over Norther Ireland. In stark contrast with the K-Albs don't do anything and run the clock down in their negotiations with Belgrade.
(PJD, 5 June 2008 19:42)

Ratko

pre 15 godina

Well what was he supposed to do, sit there with another american puppet regime (albanians)? when americans say jump, albanians ask how high..

David

pre 15 godina

Well done Minister! Any recognition of this illegality must be confronted and by walking out you remind the organisers that this 'entity' has absolutely no status in international law.

David Crowley

Jovan

pre 15 godina

it´s not about maturity, tourism , shopping or whasoever...

your cynical comments are quite cheapish, don´t you realize that?

that´s how diplomacy works, protest is a civilized method to show one´s standpoint.

of course, in the K-albanian society many problems are solved with a knife or a gun, but don´t mix up politics with your everyday´s life!

I would say that this was very good, especially if a protestnote is handed out/ sent to the other participants: they shall be reminded that they are violating international law...

to keep this in the consciousness of the participants is rather intelligent conduct and a sign of maturity...

you don´t have to understand that.

BRANKO UK

pre 15 godina

AMERICAN commented

I like these diplomatic slaps to serbian leadership. They need to awaken from the mythic slumber. Finally, it is happening. "Slap" in SE Summit, "Slap" in NATO summit4, "Slap" in European Parliament.....That face is getting too red, wondering how these leader will answer before their serbian constituents?!!!
(American, 5 June 2008 16:28)

American:
Nobody derservs a "SLAP" more
than the Americans this is not just my view but millions of other fair minded people through out the world,you should know that.

Dave B

pre 15 godina

American

why do you like Serbia to get a slap in the face? what do you think it will achieve with Serbia been knocked down all the time? You can see why most the world hates you if thats your attitude, i can tell you something within the next few years Kosovo will be over run by terroists and you will be wantING Serbias support.

PJD

pre 15 godina

To #19

"To Tom(islav) O'Donoghue; "

Another example of an Albanian not being able to accept that their view isn't shared by everyone in the west!

"You talking about integrity but you seem to forget about the Bosnian integrity, Croatian integrity, Kosova integrity, Slovenian integrity; which all were disrespected and violated in every way by Serbia."

They were all parts of Yugoslavia in 1991. It was Yugoslavia's territorial integrity that was disrespected and violated.

"Hence, Serbian integrity is not in question here, it is the ignorance of justice for people who hold dear the right of self-determination."

Yes it is in question.

"If walking out of conferencies defends one's integrity then Ireland should walk out of every meeting where Britain (representing Northern Ireland)is present.
(BURIM REGJAJ, 5 June 2008 18:54)"

The UK and the Republic of Ireland have both been mature enough to have proper negotiations with each other over Norther Ireland. In stark contrast with the K-Albs don't do anything and run the clock down in their negotiations with Belgrade.

Kosovar

pre 15 godina

For those of you who don't know, Kosovo has had a representative adressing the UN for the past 3 years. It doesn't really matter that on their name tag doesn't say republic of Kosovo. All it matters is that they are present at all these key organizations and things are going really well for the people of Kosovo. The problem with Serbia is that they don't fight for the people but for the territory. You never hear them complain about the rights of Serbs or Minorities or Albanians in Kosovo. You always hear them complain for territory. Had Serbia treated Kosovo Albanians and minorities of Kosovo the way Kosovo is treating minorities, it wouldn't come to Kosovo being independent at all. What Serbia should do now is create good relationship with Kosovo and hopefully a free trade agreement and open borders, this way it would help Serbs in Kosovo and and themselves as well.
Most of Serbs don't care for Kosovo anyway but politicians use this as a tool to get votes. I feel for the people of Serbia because ordinary Serbs deserve better. Cheers!

veki

pre 15 godina

why shouldn't he walk out?
Last week Mr. Djelic complained about the flag of Kosovo in the EU parliament and got appropriate satisfaction- the flag was removed after that.
So let the EU boil in their own sauce- if they want Serbia and Kosovo on the panel discussion they'll have to hold them separately.

sambo

pre 15 godina

Kosovo is a puppet state,and everybody knows that.i was there for long and since things only dropped.So,it is clear that will cause only more problems to neighb and inhnabitants will never progress at a steady pace seen that politicians are at least dubious people if not clearly involved in inmense wrongdoing..It is not my opinion,it is the opinion of the same organisation that ruled in favour for a so called guided indipendence,that is not an indipendence,if you want to be precise...It is a shame.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 15 godina

To Tom(islav) O'Donoghue;

You talking about integrity but you seem to forget about the Bosnian integrity, Croatian integrity, Kosova integrity, Slovenian integrity; which all were disrespected and violated in every way by Serbia. Hence, Serbian integrity is not in question here, it is the ignorance of justice for people who hold dear the right of self-determination.
If walking out of conferencies defends one's integrity then Ireland should walk out of every meeting where Britain (representing Northern Ireland)is present.

PJD

pre 15 godina

It is amusing to see the K-Alb supporters gloating over a Serbian Minister walking out of an informal conference after, if the article it correct, being lied to about the naming of the Kosovo delegation.

At the end of the day Serbia won't be walking out of the important international organisations such as the UN, Coe and OSCE as Kosovo won't be able to attend these as an independent state.

kufr

pre 15 godina

Well done! Now it is up to the EU if they want to invite illegal albanians to meetings or if they will respect international law and have Serbia present at meetings. Serbia is playing her part perfectly, now it is up to the EU to show it's true (brown) colors.

Adriano

pre 15 godina

See kids go to school and read lots of books, or you might become a jobless nobody that cant face reality. What is that teaching kids by walking away? I thought Serbia through Russia wanted more dialogue with Kosova. Well stop missing your chances mister minister

kosovar

pre 15 godina

Walking away from the meetins/forums and trying to seal the mouths of delegations and politicians from Kosovo is not going to help Serbia. It is acheiving the opposite effect, where Kosovo is acting as an independent state and Serbia as nothing. If one thing doesn't sell in Euope and other civilized countries is an attempt to deny the freedom of speach.

Gary T.

pre 15 godina

There's no shame in walking out if you see that other countries disrespect your territorial boundaries during any conferences. Serbia will continue to fight for Kosovo

ZK UK

pre 15 godina

This just shows how much resprect the EU has for Serbia. I wonder whether all of these Serbians dreaming of EU integration like to be slapped? Wake up, the EU only wants to humiliate and control you!

Of course this will never happen in the UN, where it really counts but the frustrations of the EU will continue to be vented out on Serbia.

Dane

pre 15 godina

I recommend to Serbian politicians to not go at all to such international summits and conferences. Kosovo is independent state and their reactions of this form are only waste of their time and money. They can stay in Serbia and enjoy in collective ignorance of this fact - Kosovo is independent...

legal

pre 15 godina

I find it strange that he went to the meeting in the first place!

All major European Countries have made it very clear what their position on Kosovo is, it has been explained and stated in numerous ways and on many occasions, What else do they need to say that will make Serbia understand that its their final decision on this!

Why attend meetings when you know that Kosovo will be represented by its leaders and it will be referred to as an Independent Country?

I can’t see the logic behind spending the tax payer’s money to attend these meetings when you very well know what will happen and that you will walk out.

Stay home and protest and stop disrupting the meetings that bring together nations who are forward thinking and wish to promote and develop better lives for their citizens.

Maybe he thought that as he got up to walk out that everyone would beg him to stay and that they would kick the Kosovo delegation out! The days when Serbia Politicians mustered allies and were respected in International forums is well over, it ended with the breakup of Yugoslavia and the display of inner hatred & violence which saw Serbia wage wars on all non Serbian peoples of the ex-Yugoslav nation.

Stay home and protest in your own way, maybe spend more time in Russia; they will be more sympathetic and will agree with you.

It’s going to happen at every meeting that Serbian delegations attend, so maybe it’s time you start getting used to it!

mika

pre 15 godina

There will be more and more conferencies, meetings ,sessions in UN... where politicians like Zoran Lončar will have to leave because Kosovo will be represented as an independent state. Serbia already left without ambasadors in more than 40 countries because of childish reaction to something that was unpreventable : Kosova becoming indenpendent state.
I am just afraid that in years to come Kosovo will have to represent Serbia's interests in those states, since there will be no Serbian politician to do that! One thing is for sure: Don't count on me!!

Luigi

pre 15 godina

Why do they go ? For shopping?
For some tourism ?
It's clear that from now on Serbia will always find at least in all EU initiatives a Kosovo delegate...

miri

pre 15 godina

There is nothing wrong with walking out, especially in Kosovar perspective. One last walk-out that Serbia has to do is to walk out of Kosova once and for all.

American

pre 15 godina

I like these diplomatic slaps to serbian leadership. They need to awaken from the mythic slumber. Finally, it is happening. "Slap" in SE Summit, "Slap" in NATO summit4, "Slap" in European Parliament.....That face is getting too red, wondering how these leader will answer before their serbian constituents?!!!

kosovari

pre 15 godina

Minister Loncar left the meeting..wow..Everyone learns as long as one lives, you too mr. minister of education...Kosovo is an independent state and if you continue to leave the meetings, very soon you will find yourself meeting only your office secretary.

PRN

pre 15 godina

Dear all,

I think Serbia should train/exercise different types of walk-outs at home, making it more spectacular.

How about walking out dancing?

You really amaze me...:)

It widely expected that Serbia SOON is going to enter in Guiness Book of Records with conference walk-outs.

AT LEAST you are NOT walking out for nothing...:)

Cheers

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 15 godina

To Tom(islav) O'Donoghue;

You talking about integrity but you seem to forget about the Bosnian integrity, Croatian integrity, Kosova integrity, Slovenian integrity; which all were disrespected and violated in every way by Serbia. Hence, Serbian integrity is not in question here, it is the ignorance of justice for people who hold dear the right of self-determination.
If walking out of conferencies defends one's integrity then Ireland should walk out of every meeting where Britain (representing Northern Ireland)is present.

American

pre 15 godina

I like these diplomatic slaps to serbian leadership. They need to awaken from the mythic slumber. Finally, it is happening. "Slap" in SE Summit, "Slap" in NATO summit4, "Slap" in European Parliament.....That face is getting too red, wondering how these leader will answer before their serbian constituents?!!!

miri

pre 15 godina

There is nothing wrong with walking out, especially in Kosovar perspective. One last walk-out that Serbia has to do is to walk out of Kosova once and for all.

Dane

pre 15 godina

I recommend to Serbian politicians to not go at all to such international summits and conferences. Kosovo is independent state and their reactions of this form are only waste of their time and money. They can stay in Serbia and enjoy in collective ignorance of this fact - Kosovo is independent...

kosovari

pre 15 godina

Minister Loncar left the meeting..wow..Everyone learns as long as one lives, you too mr. minister of education...Kosovo is an independent state and if you continue to leave the meetings, very soon you will find yourself meeting only your office secretary.

mika

pre 15 godina

There will be more and more conferencies, meetings ,sessions in UN... where politicians like Zoran Lončar will have to leave because Kosovo will be represented as an independent state. Serbia already left without ambasadors in more than 40 countries because of childish reaction to something that was unpreventable : Kosova becoming indenpendent state.
I am just afraid that in years to come Kosovo will have to represent Serbia's interests in those states, since there will be no Serbian politician to do that! One thing is for sure: Don't count on me!!

legal

pre 15 godina

I find it strange that he went to the meeting in the first place!

All major European Countries have made it very clear what their position on Kosovo is, it has been explained and stated in numerous ways and on many occasions, What else do they need to say that will make Serbia understand that its their final decision on this!

Why attend meetings when you know that Kosovo will be represented by its leaders and it will be referred to as an Independent Country?

I can’t see the logic behind spending the tax payer’s money to attend these meetings when you very well know what will happen and that you will walk out.

Stay home and protest and stop disrupting the meetings that bring together nations who are forward thinking and wish to promote and develop better lives for their citizens.

Maybe he thought that as he got up to walk out that everyone would beg him to stay and that they would kick the Kosovo delegation out! The days when Serbia Politicians mustered allies and were respected in International forums is well over, it ended with the breakup of Yugoslavia and the display of inner hatred & violence which saw Serbia wage wars on all non Serbian peoples of the ex-Yugoslav nation.

Stay home and protest in your own way, maybe spend more time in Russia; they will be more sympathetic and will agree with you.

It’s going to happen at every meeting that Serbian delegations attend, so maybe it’s time you start getting used to it!

ZK UK

pre 15 godina

This just shows how much resprect the EU has for Serbia. I wonder whether all of these Serbians dreaming of EU integration like to be slapped? Wake up, the EU only wants to humiliate and control you!

Of course this will never happen in the UN, where it really counts but the frustrations of the EU will continue to be vented out on Serbia.

kosovar

pre 15 godina

Walking away from the meetins/forums and trying to seal the mouths of delegations and politicians from Kosovo is not going to help Serbia. It is acheiving the opposite effect, where Kosovo is acting as an independent state and Serbia as nothing. If one thing doesn't sell in Euope and other civilized countries is an attempt to deny the freedom of speach.

Gary T.

pre 15 godina

There's no shame in walking out if you see that other countries disrespect your territorial boundaries during any conferences. Serbia will continue to fight for Kosovo

kufr

pre 15 godina

Well done! Now it is up to the EU if they want to invite illegal albanians to meetings or if they will respect international law and have Serbia present at meetings. Serbia is playing her part perfectly, now it is up to the EU to show it's true (brown) colors.

Luigi

pre 15 godina

Why do they go ? For shopping?
For some tourism ?
It's clear that from now on Serbia will always find at least in all EU initiatives a Kosovo delegate...

Kosovar

pre 15 godina

For those of you who don't know, Kosovo has had a representative adressing the UN for the past 3 years. It doesn't really matter that on their name tag doesn't say republic of Kosovo. All it matters is that they are present at all these key organizations and things are going really well for the people of Kosovo. The problem with Serbia is that they don't fight for the people but for the territory. You never hear them complain about the rights of Serbs or Minorities or Albanians in Kosovo. You always hear them complain for territory. Had Serbia treated Kosovo Albanians and minorities of Kosovo the way Kosovo is treating minorities, it wouldn't come to Kosovo being independent at all. What Serbia should do now is create good relationship with Kosovo and hopefully a free trade agreement and open borders, this way it would help Serbs in Kosovo and and themselves as well.
Most of Serbs don't care for Kosovo anyway but politicians use this as a tool to get votes. I feel for the people of Serbia because ordinary Serbs deserve better. Cheers!

Adriano

pre 15 godina

See kids go to school and read lots of books, or you might become a jobless nobody that cant face reality. What is that teaching kids by walking away? I thought Serbia through Russia wanted more dialogue with Kosova. Well stop missing your chances mister minister

PJD

pre 15 godina

It is amusing to see the K-Alb supporters gloating over a Serbian Minister walking out of an informal conference after, if the article it correct, being lied to about the naming of the Kosovo delegation.

At the end of the day Serbia won't be walking out of the important international organisations such as the UN, Coe and OSCE as Kosovo won't be able to attend these as an independent state.

Dave B

pre 15 godina

American

why do you like Serbia to get a slap in the face? what do you think it will achieve with Serbia been knocked down all the time? You can see why most the world hates you if thats your attitude, i can tell you something within the next few years Kosovo will be over run by terroists and you will be wantING Serbias support.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 15 godina

To PJD,
It is obvious that you have no clue on situation in Northern Ireland. Check your history books. Since 1801 when UK adjoined Northern Ireland to the Kingdom arbitrarily and without Irish consent there was tryouts for negotiations only to end without success. Many Irish imprisoned, tortured and died. Many British killed and injured. This gave birth to IRA. Still no peace to today. And here you are talking about mature and proper negotiations.
Yugoslavia was a federation and each constituive member had a right to succede. So how can you talk about Yugoslavian integrity when each member exercised their own right of self determination. Anyway, after 1989 there was no Yugoslavia. Though,there was a Serboslavia.

Kosovar

pre 15 godina

You can't possibly compare the UK with Serbia for god's sake. UK doesn't go to Ireland to kill civilians, expell the rest, and burn all of their homes. From what I remember none of the british leaders and generals and definitely not their prime minister or the queen went to the international tribunal for war crimes. Serbia made a mess and if they want to gain the respect, the least they should do is a public appology to all the neighbours.

Quoting:

"The UK and the Republic of Ireland have both been mature enough to have proper negotiations with each other over Norther Ireland. In stark contrast with the K-Albs don't do anything and run the clock down in their negotiations with Belgrade.
(PJD, 5 June 2008 19:42)

veki

pre 15 godina

why shouldn't he walk out?
Last week Mr. Djelic complained about the flag of Kosovo in the EU parliament and got appropriate satisfaction- the flag was removed after that.
So let the EU boil in their own sauce- if they want Serbia and Kosovo on the panel discussion they'll have to hold them separately.

Ratko

pre 15 godina

Well what was he supposed to do, sit there with another american puppet regime (albanians)? when americans say jump, albanians ask how high..

Jovan

pre 15 godina

it´s not about maturity, tourism , shopping or whasoever...

your cynical comments are quite cheapish, don´t you realize that?

that´s how diplomacy works, protest is a civilized method to show one´s standpoint.

of course, in the K-albanian society many problems are solved with a knife or a gun, but don´t mix up politics with your everyday´s life!

I would say that this was very good, especially if a protestnote is handed out/ sent to the other participants: they shall be reminded that they are violating international law...

to keep this in the consciousness of the participants is rather intelligent conduct and a sign of maturity...

you don´t have to understand that.

Ardi

pre 15 godina

How long ar they going to do this?
No one cares if they walk out, don't they see. Everyone knows Serbias stance regarding KosovA, and still they slap them in the face. Serbs walk out and the meeting continues ...

PJD

pre 15 godina

To #19

"To Tom(islav) O'Donoghue; "

Another example of an Albanian not being able to accept that their view isn't shared by everyone in the west!

"You talking about integrity but you seem to forget about the Bosnian integrity, Croatian integrity, Kosova integrity, Slovenian integrity; which all were disrespected and violated in every way by Serbia."

They were all parts of Yugoslavia in 1991. It was Yugoslavia's territorial integrity that was disrespected and violated.

"Hence, Serbian integrity is not in question here, it is the ignorance of justice for people who hold dear the right of self-determination."

Yes it is in question.

"If walking out of conferencies defends one's integrity then Ireland should walk out of every meeting where Britain (representing Northern Ireland)is present.
(BURIM REGJAJ, 5 June 2008 18:54)"

The UK and the Republic of Ireland have both been mature enough to have proper negotiations with each other over Norther Ireland. In stark contrast with the K-Albs don't do anything and run the clock down in their negotiations with Belgrade.

BRANKO UK

pre 15 godina

AMERICAN commented

I like these diplomatic slaps to serbian leadership. They need to awaken from the mythic slumber. Finally, it is happening. "Slap" in SE Summit, "Slap" in NATO summit4, "Slap" in European Parliament.....That face is getting too red, wondering how these leader will answer before their serbian constituents?!!!
(American, 5 June 2008 16:28)

American:
Nobody derservs a "SLAP" more
than the Americans this is not just my view but millions of other fair minded people through out the world,you should know that.

David

pre 15 godina

Well done Minister! Any recognition of this illegality must be confronted and by walking out you remind the organisers that this 'entity' has absolutely no status in international law.

David Crowley

ben

pre 15 godina

With this walk out is really putting in embarrassing position the Kosovar side. If I show he will leave the meeting. It's not nice neither polite.

I suggets that you do walk out once and for good FROM KOSOVAS LIFE.

As the entire civilized world is suggesting you- that’s why they recognized the independence.

Luigi: because it's the only way that ppl like them get a Schengen visa- bloody isolation, provincialism...

sambo

pre 15 godina

Kosovo is a puppet state,and everybody knows that.i was there for long and since things only dropped.So,it is clear that will cause only more problems to neighb and inhnabitants will never progress at a steady pace seen that politicians are at least dubious people if not clearly involved in inmense wrongdoing..It is not my opinion,it is the opinion of the same organisation that ruled in favour for a so called guided indipendence,that is not an indipendence,if you want to be precise...It is a shame.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

To American"

Most "American" -s don't even know where Balkan or Europe is.
"American"-s posting here have strong connections to the area (like myself). I don't think, it is proper to pull out any particular passport and shovel it under everybody's nose. I did it by request only just because some people from a certain Southern province of Serbia cannot imagine, Hungarians or Americans may have an opinion different from their governments and are not brainwashed.

Re-walking out: it's a double-edged sword.

This is/was practiced many times, the most famous "walk-out" was the Soviet walk-out before the Korean conflict. That was a diplomatic disaster and ultimately resulted in prolonged conflict and partition of Korea. Had the Soviets not walk out, they would be in a much stronger position later.

Better to remember the Korean case and use that sword with caution.

Daveo Dinkum

pre 15 godina

For centuries the Serbian people have never backed down and given in to invaders and people that wish to walk over them. This is another cycle in our history where we are all presented with challenges and you will all find out again how hard it is to break the will of Serbs. You won't shut us up as long as we live. Freedom and justice will eventually prevail, it always does.

Klinko Vladimir

pre 15 godina

When one minister leaves from a one meeting like this, it is exact the same thing if the Czech minister has left from 1938 Munich summit,when USA,Italy,Germany,Great Britain and France gave admittance for Hitlers Germany occupation of Czechian land where lived majority of Germans(then started world war II)... Those 5 lands were the first to admitt kosovo as one independant land, eventhough Kosovo unemployment rate is 60% procent, the organized crime(drug trafficking,human trafficking,corruption,by the information from INTERPOL is the biggest in europe... we,ordinary people, hope that our intelligence will stop be insulting, while we beleive in truth and facts, and not in propaganda and mind control! ( look at videos on internet german:es hat begonnen mit eine luege, or Czech:uloupene Kosovo(stolen kosovo)(Film made by Czechian State TV,forbiden in democratic Czechian europian land)
Why is the Kosovo more important than Tibet,Northern ireland, Sri lanka, Chechenien,Baskia,Texas, and all oteher region in the world that seek independece?the answer is that USA has occupied southern europe with 70.000 soldiers in serbian province Kosovo in Bondstill base, the second biggest base outside territories of USA.
As one cosmopolite,and as one humanloving person ask yourself, which counntry,afterWWII, has send their soldier in countries that does not bouder with them. I know only one country-USA(Cuba,Nicuaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Korea,Afghanistan,Somalia,Serbia...
Look deep inside yourself, and ask yourself is the false patriotismus and propaganda more important than our childrens future(i do not glorify Serbia,Albania,Germany,Russia,China or any other country)then happines and and smile on our childrens faces!!!
I have seen tears in all ex-yugoslav children, and for me it is more important than Trillaterall commision,Bildrberg group, and Comitee 300(people that make governments,wars,world crisis,create sicknesses) which run our unhuman world...

Endri, Albania

pre 15 godina

To Klinko Vladimir,

"( look at videos on internet german:es hat begonnen mit eine luege, or Czech:uloupene Kosovo(stolen kosovo)(Film made by Czechian State TV,forbiden in democratic Czechian europian land)"

You provide here twho movies which according to you tell the reality!!! Both are made with significant support of the materials (propaganda) provided from RT Serbia. There fore they can not be credible. At the end of the Czech movie you can clearly read it. The fact that it has not been allowed to be broadcasted is the best advertisement that can do a democratic and European state like Czech Republic which respects the value of the truth. There are hundred of movies which speak against your claims.

"Why is the Kosovo more important than Tibet,Northern ireland, Sri lanka, Chechenien,Baskia,Texas,.."

Did china, UK, Spain, US attacked/destroyed/killed the respective areas/population with military and paramilitary forces like Serbia did. I think not. The only exception is Russia in Chechnya. But she is you alley so probably you have learned some tactics from her.

"the answer is that USA has occupied southern europe with 70.000 soldiers in serbian province Kosovo in Bondstill base, the second biggest base outside territories of USA"

You are rally totally misinformed. Firstly if you refer to 70000 American soldiers in Kosovo then you should know that the number is less than 5000 out of 17000 NATO soldiers. Secondly Bondsteel is the second largest base in Europe after Ramstein in Germany and NOT outside US.

"which counntry,afterWWII, has send their soldier in countries that does not bouder with them. I know only one country-USA(Cuba,Nicuaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Korea,Afghanistan,Somalia,Serbia..."

NATO, UN peacemakers are everywhere. These forces are comprised not only of American but several armies.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

to Endri:

those videos are made by western journalists with western filmed material.

so your comment they are manipulated by serbian material is a blatant lie and only demonstrates the cheap level of deceit to which you are doomed...

Serbia will be back, and your lies will be forgotten.

that´s what you fear.

Endri, Albania

pre 15 godina

Jovan: I believe my eyes while you believe the ears. Check the end of the six part of "Stolen Kosovo" and you will see where are taken the materials from, Serbian propaganda or west. In case of western contribution it would have been broadcasted europawide. As for the fear that you mention, I can say you that the only issue which I have NO fear is Kosovo. No doubt about that, because thanks to god the Russian, Balkan troublemakers are not in the position of 100 years ago. That is why the democracy will prevail over neo-communisms of Putvedev.

Djuro UK

pre 15 godina

Miri..........."There is nothing wrong with walking out, especially in Kosovar perspective. One last walk-out that Serbia has to do is to walk out of Kosova once and for all" = ETHNIC CLEANSING

vujadin

pre 15 godina

Well what was he supposed to do, sit there with another american puppet regime (albanians)? when americans say jump, albanians ask how high..
(Ratko, 5 June 2008 21:01)

they ask how high while already on their way up...

rolerkoster

pre 15 godina

Milosevic would be very happy to see that the conflicts based on his policy continue until 2008. There is no other place of open hatress so they are working hard on their arguments. the image of Serbia is based on such guys, whose mandate is hatress. walk out of Europe, ZK and Tom! UDI is recognised from the states where you are living.

kosovari

pre 15 godina

Minister Loncar left the meeting..wow..Everyone learns as long as one lives, you too mr. minister of education...Kosovo is an independent state and if you continue to leave the meetings, very soon you will find yourself meeting only your office secretary.

mika

pre 15 godina

There will be more and more conferencies, meetings ,sessions in UN... where politicians like Zoran Lončar will have to leave because Kosovo will be represented as an independent state. Serbia already left without ambasadors in more than 40 countries because of childish reaction to something that was unpreventable : Kosova becoming indenpendent state.
I am just afraid that in years to come Kosovo will have to represent Serbia's interests in those states, since there will be no Serbian politician to do that! One thing is for sure: Don't count on me!!

miri

pre 15 godina

There is nothing wrong with walking out, especially in Kosovar perspective. One last walk-out that Serbia has to do is to walk out of Kosova once and for all.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 15 godina

To Tom(islav) O'Donoghue;

You talking about integrity but you seem to forget about the Bosnian integrity, Croatian integrity, Kosova integrity, Slovenian integrity; which all were disrespected and violated in every way by Serbia. Hence, Serbian integrity is not in question here, it is the ignorance of justice for people who hold dear the right of self-determination.
If walking out of conferencies defends one's integrity then Ireland should walk out of every meeting where Britain (representing Northern Ireland)is present.

Dane

pre 15 godina

I recommend to Serbian politicians to not go at all to such international summits and conferences. Kosovo is independent state and their reactions of this form are only waste of their time and money. They can stay in Serbia and enjoy in collective ignorance of this fact - Kosovo is independent...

American

pre 15 godina

I like these diplomatic slaps to serbian leadership. They need to awaken from the mythic slumber. Finally, it is happening. "Slap" in SE Summit, "Slap" in NATO summit4, "Slap" in European Parliament.....That face is getting too red, wondering how these leader will answer before their serbian constituents?!!!

Luigi

pre 15 godina

Why do they go ? For shopping?
For some tourism ?
It's clear that from now on Serbia will always find at least in all EU initiatives a Kosovo delegate...

Adriano

pre 15 godina

See kids go to school and read lots of books, or you might become a jobless nobody that cant face reality. What is that teaching kids by walking away? I thought Serbia through Russia wanted more dialogue with Kosova. Well stop missing your chances mister minister

legal

pre 15 godina

I find it strange that he went to the meeting in the first place!

All major European Countries have made it very clear what their position on Kosovo is, it has been explained and stated in numerous ways and on many occasions, What else do they need to say that will make Serbia understand that its their final decision on this!

Why attend meetings when you know that Kosovo will be represented by its leaders and it will be referred to as an Independent Country?

I can’t see the logic behind spending the tax payer’s money to attend these meetings when you very well know what will happen and that you will walk out.

Stay home and protest and stop disrupting the meetings that bring together nations who are forward thinking and wish to promote and develop better lives for their citizens.

Maybe he thought that as he got up to walk out that everyone would beg him to stay and that they would kick the Kosovo delegation out! The days when Serbia Politicians mustered allies and were respected in International forums is well over, it ended with the breakup of Yugoslavia and the display of inner hatred & violence which saw Serbia wage wars on all non Serbian peoples of the ex-Yugoslav nation.

Stay home and protest in your own way, maybe spend more time in Russia; they will be more sympathetic and will agree with you.

It’s going to happen at every meeting that Serbian delegations attend, so maybe it’s time you start getting used to it!

kosovar

pre 15 godina

Walking away from the meetins/forums and trying to seal the mouths of delegations and politicians from Kosovo is not going to help Serbia. It is acheiving the opposite effect, where Kosovo is acting as an independent state and Serbia as nothing. If one thing doesn't sell in Euope and other civilized countries is an attempt to deny the freedom of speach.

Dave B

pre 15 godina

American

why do you like Serbia to get a slap in the face? what do you think it will achieve with Serbia been knocked down all the time? You can see why most the world hates you if thats your attitude, i can tell you something within the next few years Kosovo will be over run by terroists and you will be wantING Serbias support.

Kosovar

pre 15 godina

For those of you who don't know, Kosovo has had a representative adressing the UN for the past 3 years. It doesn't really matter that on their name tag doesn't say republic of Kosovo. All it matters is that they are present at all these key organizations and things are going really well for the people of Kosovo. The problem with Serbia is that they don't fight for the people but for the territory. You never hear them complain about the rights of Serbs or Minorities or Albanians in Kosovo. You always hear them complain for territory. Had Serbia treated Kosovo Albanians and minorities of Kosovo the way Kosovo is treating minorities, it wouldn't come to Kosovo being independent at all. What Serbia should do now is create good relationship with Kosovo and hopefully a free trade agreement and open borders, this way it would help Serbs in Kosovo and and themselves as well.
Most of Serbs don't care for Kosovo anyway but politicians use this as a tool to get votes. I feel for the people of Serbia because ordinary Serbs deserve better. Cheers!

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 15 godina

To PJD,
It is obvious that you have no clue on situation in Northern Ireland. Check your history books. Since 1801 when UK adjoined Northern Ireland to the Kingdom arbitrarily and without Irish consent there was tryouts for negotiations only to end without success. Many Irish imprisoned, tortured and died. Many British killed and injured. This gave birth to IRA. Still no peace to today. And here you are talking about mature and proper negotiations.
Yugoslavia was a federation and each constituive member had a right to succede. So how can you talk about Yugoslavian integrity when each member exercised their own right of self determination. Anyway, after 1989 there was no Yugoslavia. Though,there was a Serboslavia.

kufr

pre 15 godina

Well done! Now it is up to the EU if they want to invite illegal albanians to meetings or if they will respect international law and have Serbia present at meetings. Serbia is playing her part perfectly, now it is up to the EU to show it's true (brown) colors.

PJD

pre 15 godina

It is amusing to see the K-Alb supporters gloating over a Serbian Minister walking out of an informal conference after, if the article it correct, being lied to about the naming of the Kosovo delegation.

At the end of the day Serbia won't be walking out of the important international organisations such as the UN, Coe and OSCE as Kosovo won't be able to attend these as an independent state.

veki

pre 15 godina

why shouldn't he walk out?
Last week Mr. Djelic complained about the flag of Kosovo in the EU parliament and got appropriate satisfaction- the flag was removed after that.
So let the EU boil in their own sauce- if they want Serbia and Kosovo on the panel discussion they'll have to hold them separately.

Ratko

pre 15 godina

Well what was he supposed to do, sit there with another american puppet regime (albanians)? when americans say jump, albanians ask how high..

Jovan

pre 15 godina

to Endri:

those videos are made by western journalists with western filmed material.

so your comment they are manipulated by serbian material is a blatant lie and only demonstrates the cheap level of deceit to which you are doomed...

Serbia will be back, and your lies will be forgotten.

that´s what you fear.

ZK UK

pre 15 godina

This just shows how much resprect the EU has for Serbia. I wonder whether all of these Serbians dreaming of EU integration like to be slapped? Wake up, the EU only wants to humiliate and control you!

Of course this will never happen in the UN, where it really counts but the frustrations of the EU will continue to be vented out on Serbia.

Gary T.

pre 15 godina

There's no shame in walking out if you see that other countries disrespect your territorial boundaries during any conferences. Serbia will continue to fight for Kosovo

sambo

pre 15 godina

Kosovo is a puppet state,and everybody knows that.i was there for long and since things only dropped.So,it is clear that will cause only more problems to neighb and inhnabitants will never progress at a steady pace seen that politicians are at least dubious people if not clearly involved in inmense wrongdoing..It is not my opinion,it is the opinion of the same organisation that ruled in favour for a so called guided indipendence,that is not an indipendence,if you want to be precise...It is a shame.

PJD

pre 15 godina

To #19

"To Tom(islav) O'Donoghue; "

Another example of an Albanian not being able to accept that their view isn't shared by everyone in the west!

"You talking about integrity but you seem to forget about the Bosnian integrity, Croatian integrity, Kosova integrity, Slovenian integrity; which all were disrespected and violated in every way by Serbia."

They were all parts of Yugoslavia in 1991. It was Yugoslavia's territorial integrity that was disrespected and violated.

"Hence, Serbian integrity is not in question here, it is the ignorance of justice for people who hold dear the right of self-determination."

Yes it is in question.

"If walking out of conferencies defends one's integrity then Ireland should walk out of every meeting where Britain (representing Northern Ireland)is present.
(BURIM REGJAJ, 5 June 2008 18:54)"

The UK and the Republic of Ireland have both been mature enough to have proper negotiations with each other over Norther Ireland. In stark contrast with the K-Albs don't do anything and run the clock down in their negotiations with Belgrade.

BRANKO UK

pre 15 godina

AMERICAN commented

I like these diplomatic slaps to serbian leadership. They need to awaken from the mythic slumber. Finally, it is happening. "Slap" in SE Summit, "Slap" in NATO summit4, "Slap" in European Parliament.....That face is getting too red, wondering how these leader will answer before their serbian constituents?!!!
(American, 5 June 2008 16:28)

American:
Nobody derservs a "SLAP" more
than the Americans this is not just my view but millions of other fair minded people through out the world,you should know that.

PRN

pre 15 godina

Dear all,

I think Serbia should train/exercise different types of walk-outs at home, making it more spectacular.

How about walking out dancing?

You really amaze me...:)

It widely expected that Serbia SOON is going to enter in Guiness Book of Records with conference walk-outs.

AT LEAST you are NOT walking out for nothing...:)

Cheers

Ardi

pre 15 godina

How long ar they going to do this?
No one cares if they walk out, don't they see. Everyone knows Serbias stance regarding KosovA, and still they slap them in the face. Serbs walk out and the meeting continues ...

ben

pre 15 godina

With this walk out is really putting in embarrassing position the Kosovar side. If I show he will leave the meeting. It's not nice neither polite.

I suggets that you do walk out once and for good FROM KOSOVAS LIFE.

As the entire civilized world is suggesting you- that’s why they recognized the independence.

Luigi: because it's the only way that ppl like them get a Schengen visa- bloody isolation, provincialism...

Djuro UK

pre 15 godina

Miri..........."There is nothing wrong with walking out, especially in Kosovar perspective. One last walk-out that Serbia has to do is to walk out of Kosova once and for all" = ETHNIC CLEANSING

Endri, Albania

pre 15 godina

To Klinko Vladimir,

"( look at videos on internet german:es hat begonnen mit eine luege, or Czech:uloupene Kosovo(stolen kosovo)(Film made by Czechian State TV,forbiden in democratic Czechian europian land)"

You provide here twho movies which according to you tell the reality!!! Both are made with significant support of the materials (propaganda) provided from RT Serbia. There fore they can not be credible. At the end of the Czech movie you can clearly read it. The fact that it has not been allowed to be broadcasted is the best advertisement that can do a democratic and European state like Czech Republic which respects the value of the truth. There are hundred of movies which speak against your claims.

"Why is the Kosovo more important than Tibet,Northern ireland, Sri lanka, Chechenien,Baskia,Texas,.."

Did china, UK, Spain, US attacked/destroyed/killed the respective areas/population with military and paramilitary forces like Serbia did. I think not. The only exception is Russia in Chechnya. But she is you alley so probably you have learned some tactics from her.

"the answer is that USA has occupied southern europe with 70.000 soldiers in serbian province Kosovo in Bondstill base, the second biggest base outside territories of USA"

You are rally totally misinformed. Firstly if you refer to 70000 American soldiers in Kosovo then you should know that the number is less than 5000 out of 17000 NATO soldiers. Secondly Bondsteel is the second largest base in Europe after Ramstein in Germany and NOT outside US.

"which counntry,afterWWII, has send their soldier in countries that does not bouder with them. I know only one country-USA(Cuba,Nicuaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Korea,Afghanistan,Somalia,Serbia..."

NATO, UN peacemakers are everywhere. These forces are comprised not only of American but several armies.

Endri, Albania

pre 15 godina

Jovan: I believe my eyes while you believe the ears. Check the end of the six part of "Stolen Kosovo" and you will see where are taken the materials from, Serbian propaganda or west. In case of western contribution it would have been broadcasted europawide. As for the fear that you mention, I can say you that the only issue which I have NO fear is Kosovo. No doubt about that, because thanks to god the Russian, Balkan troublemakers are not in the position of 100 years ago. That is why the democracy will prevail over neo-communisms of Putvedev.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

it´s not about maturity, tourism , shopping or whasoever...

your cynical comments are quite cheapish, don´t you realize that?

that´s how diplomacy works, protest is a civilized method to show one´s standpoint.

of course, in the K-albanian society many problems are solved with a knife or a gun, but don´t mix up politics with your everyday´s life!

I would say that this was very good, especially if a protestnote is handed out/ sent to the other participants: they shall be reminded that they are violating international law...

to keep this in the consciousness of the participants is rather intelligent conduct and a sign of maturity...

you don´t have to understand that.

David

pre 15 godina

Well done Minister! Any recognition of this illegality must be confronted and by walking out you remind the organisers that this 'entity' has absolutely no status in international law.

David Crowley

Kosovar

pre 15 godina

You can't possibly compare the UK with Serbia for god's sake. UK doesn't go to Ireland to kill civilians, expell the rest, and burn all of their homes. From what I remember none of the british leaders and generals and definitely not their prime minister or the queen went to the international tribunal for war crimes. Serbia made a mess and if they want to gain the respect, the least they should do is a public appology to all the neighbours.

Quoting:

"The UK and the Republic of Ireland have both been mature enough to have proper negotiations with each other over Norther Ireland. In stark contrast with the K-Albs don't do anything and run the clock down in their negotiations with Belgrade.
(PJD, 5 June 2008 19:42)

Daveo Dinkum

pre 15 godina

For centuries the Serbian people have never backed down and given in to invaders and people that wish to walk over them. This is another cycle in our history where we are all presented with challenges and you will all find out again how hard it is to break the will of Serbs. You won't shut us up as long as we live. Freedom and justice will eventually prevail, it always does.

rolerkoster

pre 15 godina

Milosevic would be very happy to see that the conflicts based on his policy continue until 2008. There is no other place of open hatress so they are working hard on their arguments. the image of Serbia is based on such guys, whose mandate is hatress. walk out of Europe, ZK and Tom! UDI is recognised from the states where you are living.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

To American"

Most "American" -s don't even know where Balkan or Europe is.
"American"-s posting here have strong connections to the area (like myself). I don't think, it is proper to pull out any particular passport and shovel it under everybody's nose. I did it by request only just because some people from a certain Southern province of Serbia cannot imagine, Hungarians or Americans may have an opinion different from their governments and are not brainwashed.

Re-walking out: it's a double-edged sword.

This is/was practiced many times, the most famous "walk-out" was the Soviet walk-out before the Korean conflict. That was a diplomatic disaster and ultimately resulted in prolonged conflict and partition of Korea. Had the Soviets not walk out, they would be in a much stronger position later.

Better to remember the Korean case and use that sword with caution.

Klinko Vladimir

pre 15 godina

When one minister leaves from a one meeting like this, it is exact the same thing if the Czech minister has left from 1938 Munich summit,when USA,Italy,Germany,Great Britain and France gave admittance for Hitlers Germany occupation of Czechian land where lived majority of Germans(then started world war II)... Those 5 lands were the first to admitt kosovo as one independant land, eventhough Kosovo unemployment rate is 60% procent, the organized crime(drug trafficking,human trafficking,corruption,by the information from INTERPOL is the biggest in europe... we,ordinary people, hope that our intelligence will stop be insulting, while we beleive in truth and facts, and not in propaganda and mind control! ( look at videos on internet german:es hat begonnen mit eine luege, or Czech:uloupene Kosovo(stolen kosovo)(Film made by Czechian State TV,forbiden in democratic Czechian europian land)
Why is the Kosovo more important than Tibet,Northern ireland, Sri lanka, Chechenien,Baskia,Texas, and all oteher region in the world that seek independece?the answer is that USA has occupied southern europe with 70.000 soldiers in serbian province Kosovo in Bondstill base, the second biggest base outside territories of USA.
As one cosmopolite,and as one humanloving person ask yourself, which counntry,afterWWII, has send their soldier in countries that does not bouder with them. I know only one country-USA(Cuba,Nicuaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Korea,Afghanistan,Somalia,Serbia...
Look deep inside yourself, and ask yourself is the false patriotismus and propaganda more important than our childrens future(i do not glorify Serbia,Albania,Germany,Russia,China or any other country)then happines and and smile on our childrens faces!!!
I have seen tears in all ex-yugoslav children, and for me it is more important than Trillaterall commision,Bildrberg group, and Comitee 300(people that make governments,wars,world crisis,create sicknesses) which run our unhuman world...

vujadin

pre 15 godina

Well what was he supposed to do, sit there with another american puppet regime (albanians)? when americans say jump, albanians ask how high..
(Ratko, 5 June 2008 21:01)

they ask how high while already on their way up...