Gruevski: No deadline for Kosovo recognition

This guy sounds like a joke, naive and arrogant.

I agree with KS. Never underestimate you're minority.

The examples of Croatia, Bosnia and Macedonia(2001) is proof of this.

watch him do it in a week. 25% Albanians there and his state might disappear between Greece, Serbia and Albania. Run and recognize.

Thank You Pavlos!
You have given a perfect overview of the situation.
These facts are further confirmed by OSCE for instance. In some cases the ballot-boxes were filled in advance and people were not permeted to vote.
My best regards,
Ermal

Gruevski is a democrat??? Is that a joke?? The whole international community is "screaming" about the way the elections took place in FYROM. This guy, together with the albanian DPA party, organised the total terrorizing of the albanian population in the west of the country.

Also, the EU and the US have official indictions by ALL the opposition parties (apart from the ally DPA party) the elections result is FAKE, and there has been organized illegitimacy of voting, so he can get the autonomy (more than 60 seats) in the parliament, and he can help his ally DPA party to win more votes!

And - after all this - you talk about a "democratic" leader??? The VMRO nationalistic goverment is acting more like a regime, than a democratically elected goverment. The guy - apart from nationalist, is terrorizing his own minority too. I have no other comment about him. The fact that neither the US goverment nor the EU have reckognised the elections result yet, and have INDICTED HIM, for being directly responsible for the election viollence proves what kind of "democratic leader" he is... more like a dictator I would say he has acted so far...

Bravo Nikola. He's a great leader with wonderful ideas and brings hope to Macedonia. The people that think he's arrogant are either Albanian or Greek and see him as a threat to their interests.

Jope,
being a leader, between others, also means showing resposibility.
Mr Gruevski started with the wrong foot here.
I dont know if this incident reached your media, wherever you are, but the fyromian border police denied entry to the Greek KFOR group on their way to Kossovo. This is not a good sign for fyrom and in this case "threat or pressure from the Greek side will just result the oposite" doesnt really apply. I would say the contrary. A veto is not a threat by the way. It is a diplomatic means. Denying entry to a nato group is a threat and pressure and not only to Greece but to nato also.
This doesnt show a good leader, it only shows a newly elected small time politician that needs to grow up.

To Albanian posters; man, YOU people
are the joke! There is nothing but measured wisdom in his words. What's the matter... he's not going to roll over for the Albanian interests?

PS Look at your own leaders! Is their one who is not a "former" terrorist/ murderer? Krasniqi? OMG what a joke.

I have high respect of MR Gruevski, i would not call him a joke. He is one of only some balcan leeders that work hard against corruption and organized crime, i guess some in the balcans have problems with that but thats your problem.

If anyone have anything against his work against the fights against crime and coreuption then you realy should take an look at the mirror.


Possibility that Gruevski will recognize Kosova under threat or pressure from Albanians or the EU are more then slim.

Gruvski is a pure and definite democrat and threat or pressure will just result the oposite.

Only constructive and calm talks could result in an recognition.

Same thing go with the greek dispute, threat or pressure from the Greek side will just result the oposite if i know MR Gruvski correct.

Greeks will have to deal with him with out threat or pressure, result can only be made in a clam way with constructive talks with out Veto, that will just not work.

I think that Fyr Macedonia and Greece are not far away from an deal, bothe side have responsibility to not make mistakes in the talk that will soon start again.

watch him do it in a week. 25% Albanians there and his state might disappear between Greece, Serbia and Albania. Run and recognize.
(Al, 3 June 2008 19:29)

Hi AL,

You like making threats don't you!

I wonder if you would you be making the same threats if NATO/EU/USA left the balkans tomorrow??

Furthermore the population of Albanians in Macedonia is reallistically around 15% to 20% not 25%. We very well know that Albanians register deceased relatives in order to recieve pensions and to boost the numbers of Albanians, additionally Albanians from Kosovo who have built entire illegal suburbs and have over welcomed there stay e.g Kumanovo also add to the abnormally nigh numbers. I even read an article in a british paper regarding Albanians registering pets during census.. We are not oblivious to your activities, the problem is that we have had weak minded politicians in the past... though thank god for Nikola. He bothers you becuase he stands up for his country whih you wish ceases to exist. Pay some respect for Nikola my fellow Albanians.. He was elected democratically, if you don't democracy i suggest you move to Afganistan or Pakistan. Nikola is your prime minister.

Cheers

The Albanian and greek brotherhood hate Gruevski for obvious reasons! Tough, guys!

I guess greek and albanian "democracy" is the preferred model, where minority rights are not even recognized, let alone minorities.

Al,

"...watch him do it in a week. 25% Albanians there and his state might disappear between Greece, Serbia and Albania. Run and recognize…"

Serbia does not have territorial pretensions against FRYM. Serbs understands very well difficult position of FRYM with their "friendly" Albanian minority, and sympathize with our Slavic kin. It is very real danger that Albanians destroy FRYM but we Serbs are not rejoicing at this possibility, on the contrary.

What should happen is that FRYM make peace with our brothers Greeks, make sure that Americans don't miss use them in their moves against Greece and then we can cooperate together to our mutual interest. In the new balans of powers in Balkan that are Americans creating, we, Orthodox nations of Balkan will be natural allies and we will have common enemies.

This guy sounds like a joke, naive and arrogant.

watch him do it in a week. 25% Albanians there and his state might disappear between Greece, Serbia and Albania. Run and recognize.

Bravo Nikola. He's a great leader with wonderful ideas and brings hope to Macedonia. The people that think he's arrogant are either Albanian or Greek and see him as a threat to their interests.

I agree with KS. Never underestimate you're minority.

The examples of Croatia, Bosnia and Macedonia(2001) is proof of this.

watch him do it in a week. 25% Albanians there and his state might disappear between Greece, Serbia and Albania. Run and recognize.
(Al, 3 June 2008 19:29)

Hi AL,

You like making threats don't you!

I wonder if you would you be making the same threats if NATO/EU/USA left the balkans tomorrow??

Furthermore the population of Albanians in Macedonia is reallistically around 15% to 20% not 25%. We very well know that Albanians register deceased relatives in order to recieve pensions and to boost the numbers of Albanians, additionally Albanians from Kosovo who have built entire illegal suburbs and have over welcomed there stay e.g Kumanovo also add to the abnormally nigh numbers. I even read an article in a british paper regarding Albanians registering pets during census.. We are not oblivious to your activities, the problem is that we have had weak minded politicians in the past... though thank god for Nikola. He bothers you becuase he stands up for his country whih you wish ceases to exist. Pay some respect for Nikola my fellow Albanians.. He was elected democratically, if you don't democracy i suggest you move to Afganistan or Pakistan. Nikola is your prime minister.

Cheers

I have high respect of MR Gruevski, i would not call him a joke. He is one of only some balcan leeders that work hard against corruption and organized crime, i guess some in the balcans have problems with that but thats your problem.

If anyone have anything against his work against the fights against crime and coreuption then you realy should take an look at the mirror.


Possibility that Gruevski will recognize Kosova under threat or pressure from Albanians or the EU are more then slim.

Gruvski is a pure and definite democrat and threat or pressure will just result the oposite.

Only constructive and calm talks could result in an recognition.

Same thing go with the greek dispute, threat or pressure from the Greek side will just result the oposite if i know MR Gruvski correct.

Greeks will have to deal with him with out threat or pressure, result can only be made in a clam way with constructive talks with out Veto, that will just not work.

I think that Fyr Macedonia and Greece are not far away from an deal, bothe side have responsibility to not make mistakes in the talk that will soon start again.

Gruevski is a democrat??? Is that a joke?? The whole international community is "screaming" about the way the elections took place in FYROM. This guy, together with the albanian DPA party, organised the total terrorizing of the albanian population in the west of the country.

Also, the EU and the US have official indictions by ALL the opposition parties (apart from the ally DPA party) the elections result is FAKE, and there has been organized illegitimacy of voting, so he can get the autonomy (more than 60 seats) in the parliament, and he can help his ally DPA party to win more votes!

And - after all this - you talk about a "democratic" leader??? The VMRO nationalistic goverment is acting more like a regime, than a democratically elected goverment. The guy - apart from nationalist, is terrorizing his own minority too. I have no other comment about him. The fact that neither the US goverment nor the EU have reckognised the elections result yet, and have INDICTED HIM, for being directly responsible for the election viollence proves what kind of "democratic leader" he is... more like a dictator I would say he has acted so far...

Jope,
being a leader, between others, also means showing resposibility.
Mr Gruevski started with the wrong foot here.
I dont know if this incident reached your media, wherever you are, but the fyromian border police denied entry to the Greek KFOR group on their way to Kossovo. This is not a good sign for fyrom and in this case "threat or pressure from the Greek side will just result the oposite" doesnt really apply. I would say the contrary. A veto is not a threat by the way. It is a diplomatic means. Denying entry to a nato group is a threat and pressure and not only to Greece but to nato also.
This doesnt show a good leader, it only shows a newly elected small time politician that needs to grow up.

To Albanian posters; man, YOU people
are the joke! There is nothing but measured wisdom in his words. What's the matter... he's not going to roll over for the Albanian interests?

PS Look at your own leaders! Is their one who is not a "former" terrorist/ murderer? Krasniqi? OMG what a joke.

Thank You Pavlos!
You have given a perfect overview of the situation.
These facts are further confirmed by OSCE for instance. In some cases the ballot-boxes were filled in advance and people were not permeted to vote.
My best regards,
Ermal

The Albanian and greek brotherhood hate Gruevski for obvious reasons! Tough, guys!

I guess greek and albanian "democracy" is the preferred model, where minority rights are not even recognized, let alone minorities.

Al,

"...watch him do it in a week. 25% Albanians there and his state might disappear between Greece, Serbia and Albania. Run and recognize…"

Serbia does not have territorial pretensions against FRYM. Serbs understands very well difficult position of FRYM with their "friendly" Albanian minority, and sympathize with our Slavic kin. It is very real danger that Albanians destroy FRYM but we Serbs are not rejoicing at this possibility, on the contrary.

What should happen is that FRYM make peace with our brothers Greeks, make sure that Americans don't miss use them in their moves against Greece and then we can cooperate together to our mutual interest. In the new balans of powers in Balkan that are Americans creating, we, Orthodox nations of Balkan will be natural allies and we will have common enemies.