"Turks back in Kosovo via education"

Serbia should thank the Turks and reciprocate the gesture by opening up a school in the Republic of Kurdistan where 15 million Kurds need to learn how to more effectively lobby countries for recognition of their self declared country.

No doubt that the countries that have recognized Kosova will support her in many ways.

It's not a show- it's for real.

I can't imagine State Dpt. to take decisions, recognize countries in Europe just for a joke.

Good. The more universities the better; at least it helps Kosovo with education, because I'm tired of religious sanctuaries being build in Kosovo, whether they be Muslim,Catholic, or Orthododox.

I wholeheartedly agree with Alban and I believe most Albanians would. Albanians are not fanatic about religion and that is the reason that has kept us unified, unlike some of our neighbors. This concept of being Albanian first regardless of religion is a fact that is greatly misunderstood by many non-Albanians in the Balkans. However, Albanians respect all religions.

And yes, we welcome Turkey to build another university in Kosova!

I hope they won´t close those universities when Kosovo gets re-integrated again...

the Turks are of course welcome as investors! :)

This is a good sign. Foreign investors are interested in Kosova.
Coca Cola will start being produced in Kosova as well.
McDonald will open a franchise is Kosova too.
We welcome all the investments because Kosova is in great need for them.

Just to throw this out. Those who think that the next US cabinet might change the stance of US towards Kosova please read this article:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/10706/

See its not the President's cabinet that makes these decisions, its the intelligence service of the US that makes these strategic moves. So whoever is in office makes no difference about Kosova's future.

Peace.

"Albanians respect all religions."

The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out.

With the widespread infiltration of islamic fundamentalists in Europe, this comes as a major concern. Why didn't they venture to create Turkish academic institutions in other Eastern European countries like Romania, Bulgaria, etc.? Does anyone think that the religious ties are coincidence? I would encourage everyone to read up on the history of the Ottoman Empire, one of the darkest periods in European history. With the extreme corruption and lawlesness in Kosovo, fundamentalists will take full advantage of the situation and create additional opportunities to educate future terrorists on an even larger scale than has been practiced in the not too distant past. Just like they have taken advantage of Bosnia after the wars in the former Yugoslavia, they now have one more location in Europe that will be hospitable to their cause. I hope that Europe wakes up soon!

Not surprising.

Turkey try to reestablsih the ancient influence in the Balkans.

No need for brainwashing. The Turks did that to the Albanians during the Ottoman Empire.

"Albanians respect all religions."

The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out.
(vrnjak, 3 June 2008 22:57)

You being an expert on the demographics of Kosova and Albania should have a say on this. Please lectures us with your kosovocompromise.com propaganda or that new-age flavor from the Serbianna.com..or better yet straight from the horses mouth, perhaps a few quotes from this so called "kosovo minister"?

It is amazing when I hear Serbs talk about Kosova...a country which they have NEVER stepped foot on but yet are persistent as if are part of it. It feels like if I lobbied for Mars...what if tomorrow your government announces that Kosova doesn't exist, it's a made up fantasy...what then? Are you still a Serb?

Vrnjak,

The demographics of Kosova are not religion driven.
I respect the fact that Serbs are devout (if not excessive) in their practise of religion - Albanians on the other hand by an large have never quite made religion a priority.
Regards, Dardan

The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out."
So, what do you suggest in order to change it? Something like Milosevic style?
Opening Univesities, has nothing to do with religion expansion. Turks are very healthy nation and society: education, modernism and rapid economical progress are present in this country, while there are not common problems with perversions like drugs and moral collapse.

"Contributions are expected from the TOBB University of Economics and Technology, the Middle East Technical University, the Bahcesehir University, and from a project support by the United States."

Looks good. At least money for the real thing.

Probably not everything is 100% honey. Let's see.

#1:

TOBB University of Economics and Technology: has been founded by The Union of Chambers and Commodity Exchanges of Turkey (TOBB) on July 1, 2003 (wiki). Not an old university and not sure about quality of the curriculum. Not a State university in Turkiye. But: 100% secular university, "Atatürk's Principles and History of the Reforms" is part of the curriculum, that means no Wahabbite insanity.

Web site here: http://www.etu.edu.tr/index.php?page=1&lang=enUS

Object-oriented programming instead of Wahabbite craze is good.


#2:

"Middle East Technical University", http://www.metu.edu.tr is a State university. Interestingly, they have a campus in N. Cyprus. Obviously backed by State, founded in 1956, has strong connections to the State University of New York and Australian scholarships.

That sounds pretty good for me. Better than Inshallah Madrasa in Quetta, Pakistan.

#3:

Bahcesehir University is relatively new, from 1998. According Wiki, an academic and strategic protocol was signed shortly after (February 1998) with San Diego State University in California. The English language web site greets with the portrait of Kemal Atatürk (not Usama bin Laden). The rector, prof. Deniz Ulke Aribogan is a lady.

From their web site:

"Following an English program for proficiency in Preparatory, the students are eligible for faculty courses. German, Spanish or Russian are given as a second language."

That's English, German, Spanish, Russian (not Pashtun, so probably no ties with Inshallah Madrasa).

They got Erasmus and via it exchange to almost every more-less developed part of the world (no Inshallah Madrasa in Quetta, tough).

My verdict: KosovO is of course Serbia - but congratulation on getting somewhat POTENTIALLY useful. From USA point of view: Dollars much better spent than on Camp Bondsteel. How useful it will be is depending, what these universities will bring in. Thank you, Turkiye, thank you USA.

vrnjak wrote: ""Albanians respect all religions."

“The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out."

So, what do you suggest in order to change it? Something like Milosevic style?
Opening Univesities, has nothing to do with religion expansion. Turks are very healthy nation and society: education, modernism and rapid economical progress are present in this country, while there are not common problems with perversions like drugs and moral collapse.

I wholeheartedly agree with Alban and I believe most Albanians would. Albanians are not fanatic about religion and that is the reason that has kept us unified, unlike some of our neighbors. This concept of being Albanian first regardless of religion is a fact that is greatly misunderstood by many non-Albanians in the Balkans. However, Albanians respect all religions.

And yes, we welcome Turkey to build another university in Kosova!

I hope they won´t close those universities when Kosovo gets re-integrated again...

the Turks are of course welcome as investors! :)

No doubt that the countries that have recognized Kosova will support her in many ways.

It's not a show- it's for real.

I can't imagine State Dpt. to take decisions, recognize countries in Europe just for a joke.

Good. The more universities the better; at least it helps Kosovo with education, because I'm tired of religious sanctuaries being build in Kosovo, whether they be Muslim,Catholic, or Orthododox.

This is a good sign. Foreign investors are interested in Kosova.
Coca Cola will start being produced in Kosova as well.
McDonald will open a franchise is Kosova too.
We welcome all the investments because Kosova is in great need for them.

Just to throw this out. Those who think that the next US cabinet might change the stance of US towards Kosova please read this article:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/10706/

See its not the President's cabinet that makes these decisions, its the intelligence service of the US that makes these strategic moves. So whoever is in office makes no difference about Kosova's future.

Peace.

Serbia should thank the Turks and reciprocate the gesture by opening up a school in the Republic of Kurdistan where 15 million Kurds need to learn how to more effectively lobby countries for recognition of their self declared country.

"Albanians respect all religions."

The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out.
(vrnjak, 3 June 2008 22:57)

You being an expert on the demographics of Kosova and Albania should have a say on this. Please lectures us with your kosovocompromise.com propaganda or that new-age flavor from the Serbianna.com..or better yet straight from the horses mouth, perhaps a few quotes from this so called "kosovo minister"?

It is amazing when I hear Serbs talk about Kosova...a country which they have NEVER stepped foot on but yet are persistent as if are part of it. It feels like if I lobbied for Mars...what if tomorrow your government announces that Kosova doesn't exist, it's a made up fantasy...what then? Are you still a Serb?

"Albanians respect all religions."

The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out.

With the widespread infiltration of islamic fundamentalists in Europe, this comes as a major concern. Why didn't they venture to create Turkish academic institutions in other Eastern European countries like Romania, Bulgaria, etc.? Does anyone think that the religious ties are coincidence? I would encourage everyone to read up on the history of the Ottoman Empire, one of the darkest periods in European history. With the extreme corruption and lawlesness in Kosovo, fundamentalists will take full advantage of the situation and create additional opportunities to educate future terrorists on an even larger scale than has been practiced in the not too distant past. Just like they have taken advantage of Bosnia after the wars in the former Yugoslavia, they now have one more location in Europe that will be hospitable to their cause. I hope that Europe wakes up soon!

No need for brainwashing. The Turks did that to the Albanians during the Ottoman Empire.

Not surprising.

Turkey try to reestablsih the ancient influence in the Balkans.

Vrnjak,

The demographics of Kosova are not religion driven.
I respect the fact that Serbs are devout (if not excessive) in their practise of religion - Albanians on the other hand by an large have never quite made religion a priority.
Regards, Dardan

The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out."
So, what do you suggest in order to change it? Something like Milosevic style?
Opening Univesities, has nothing to do with religion expansion. Turks are very healthy nation and society: education, modernism and rapid economical progress are present in this country, while there are not common problems with perversions like drugs and moral collapse.

vrnjak wrote: ""Albanians respect all religions."

“The demographics of Albania and Kosovo i Metohija do not bear this out."

So, what do you suggest in order to change it? Something like Milosevic style?
Opening Univesities, has nothing to do with religion expansion. Turks are very healthy nation and society: education, modernism and rapid economical progress are present in this country, while there are not common problems with perversions like drugs and moral collapse.

"Contributions are expected from the TOBB University of Economics and Technology, the Middle East Technical University, the Bahcesehir University, and from a project support by the United States."

Looks good. At least money for the real thing.

Probably not everything is 100% honey. Let's see.

#1:

TOBB University of Economics and Technology: has been founded by The Union of Chambers and Commodity Exchanges of Turkey (TOBB) on July 1, 2003 (wiki). Not an old university and not sure about quality of the curriculum. Not a State university in Turkiye. But: 100% secular university, "Atatürk's Principles and History of the Reforms" is part of the curriculum, that means no Wahabbite insanity.

Web site here: http://www.etu.edu.tr/index.php?page=1&lang=enUS

Object-oriented programming instead of Wahabbite craze is good.


#2:

"Middle East Technical University", http://www.metu.edu.tr is a State university. Interestingly, they have a campus in N. Cyprus. Obviously backed by State, founded in 1956, has strong connections to the State University of New York and Australian scholarships.

That sounds pretty good for me. Better than Inshallah Madrasa in Quetta, Pakistan.

#3:

Bahcesehir University is relatively new, from 1998. According Wiki, an academic and strategic protocol was signed shortly after (February 1998) with San Diego State University in California. The English language web site greets with the portrait of Kemal Atatürk (not Usama bin Laden). The rector, prof. Deniz Ulke Aribogan is a lady.

From their web site:

"Following an English program for proficiency in Preparatory, the students are eligible for faculty courses. German, Spanish or Russian are given as a second language."

That's English, German, Spanish, Russian (not Pashtun, so probably no ties with Inshallah Madrasa).

They got Erasmus and via it exchange to almost every more-less developed part of the world (no Inshallah Madrasa in Quetta, tough).

My verdict: KosovO is of course Serbia - but congratulation on getting somewhat POTENTIALLY useful. From USA point of view: Dollars much better spent than on Camp Bondsteel. How useful it will be is depending, what these universities will bring in. Thank you, Turkiye, thank you USA.