SPS sets out cooperation conditions

"against the Serbia’s prosperity and integration to the modern and civilized world."

Oh no, not yet another "enlightened" Soros-infected Serb that hates everything that even remotely remainds of anything Serbian...

You might as well, after so many years with a western "government" and a country bogged down in anglo-american dirty grease, accept that Serbia will never be a McDonalds-Wal mart-Disneyland on the Danube. As long as there are Serbians there will always be a Serbian Serbia.

I have to agree with the SPS here. It is the US, UK, Germany and NATO who are largely responsible for the death and destruction in the former YU and blaming the Milošević family is just typical Western deceit.

They are very quick to accept the cigarette smuggling president of Montenegro, who claimed it was necessary for the survival of that republic but put out an arrest warrant for the Milošević family for doing the same thing.

Furthermore, the bombing of the RTS studio is entirely NATOs war crime and not that of ex-RTS Chief Dragoljub Milanović. NATO need to be held accountable instead of continually blaming Serbia for their crimes.

Just like the Croatians are attempting to blame Serbia in its genocide case for ethnically cleansing hundreds of thousands of Serbians, so to is NATO attempting to blame Serbia for all of its crimes.

This is the moment Serbia turns the table and stands up for what is right. It has strong international backing now so the time has come.

Milošević was not the perfect leader but I am fairly certain he protected Serbian interests. He did not allow Serbia to become a servant of the West and he did not lose Kosovo as the US and Albanians would like you to believe.

Under enormous pressure, he managed to get the US, UN and NATO to agree to Kosovo being an integral part of Serbia and that any solution would only permit Kosovo to be autonomous.

Lets be clear, it is the DS - the puppets of the West, who would permit Kosovo to be more than autonomous. That party illegally handed over Serbian citizens, against the constitution, to the Hague for financial promises there were never met. It pursued the convictions of Serbians for war crimes NATO committed. The list is endless but thank god the DS and all the deceit will be in opposition for some time to come.

The time for change and a strong Serbia has come.

BTW Anti-Western nationalism is just not healthy for Serbia in this day and age.
(Peter Sudyka, 28 May 2008 16:46)

???

What is the proper stance for Serbia to take with the West which has facilitated the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Croatia and Kosovo i Metohija, rained bombs and depleted uranium causing vast economic and environmental ruin, declared imminant domain on Serbia's territory in the name NATO -- I mean the suffering Albanians -- and, lastly demonized the entire Serbian nation to legitmize this this holy hell. Also, it is internationalism that has traded peace for the promise of an illusion of prosperity, not nationalism.

If the SPS, DSS and the Radicals manage to agree.. to form a GOVERMENT, then Serbia will have the UPPER HAND in ..ANY.future talks with the EU..apart from receiving ALL the HELP NEEDED from Russia .. and CHINA... and.. it`s the ONLY WAY in which KOSOVO will AGAIN be .. PART OF SERBIA!!
Ernst - Germany

Although I promised to myself that I would not comment any more, today I have to say that I simply have to...

The reason are all this nationals posting here...One thing is to be a patriot and another thing is to be ignorant...

Although it does hurt me a lot, I must say I will like to see the SRS-DSS-SPS coalition to be formed...And then to see how all of you together are going to, hopefuly, exist only in history books (as a black stain of Serbias history) in a few years time...This is were you belong...

And this comes from me, who doesn't have anything against Russia, China, etc...but doesn't have anything against EU countries as well and does not consider them as enemies...

It is so dissapointng to see what kind of people post here and no wonder we are all considered savage nationalists around the world...

What a pity for Serbia!

Peter

What's done is done but my point is that blaming Milošević for all of the Balkan wars is Western deceit and propaganda as the West was largely responsible for the wars. Premature recognition, lack of negotiations and withdrawal of agreements all point to the West.

Slovenia was not really an issue as was Macedonia or Montenegro. They went their own way relatively peacefully.

Croatia's recognition was premature without resolving the status of the hundreds of thousands of Serbians who did not want to live in a separate nation. Germany's premature recognition was generally blamed at the time for starting the conflict.

An agreement was signed in BiH (Carrington-Cutileiro peace plan or Lisbon agreement) for a peaceful solution but Alija Izetbegović broke it after meetings with the US. You see, Milošević did follow the peaceful route but Western backed Izetbegović provoked war because they wanted all of BiH to themselves. That cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

Finally, as far as I'm aware, Kosovo's autonomy was not revoked but reduced. However, I am convinced that no matter what Serbia did the West was determined to go to war. You only need to read the Rambouillet proposal, how NATO wanted to occupy all of Serbia and the ultimatum it was given at the time.

Though Milošević was not ideal, he was the best leader Serbia had at that time. He was severely demonised by the west and they blamed him for practically everything.

Yes, he is history now but perhaps the SPS will put some things right.

Saying things like "we will form a government if you will protect our criminals" is going to make Serbia go back down the black hole that I thought it had emerged from.

Sad .... extremely sad .....

Mr. Dacic:

I am positive that the SRS and DSS will not have any problems accomodating you.
Welcome to the Serbian club!!

All I can say is: "Kostunica for crime minister!"

Comment: "I have to agree with the SPS here. It is the US, UK, Germany and NATO who are largely responsible for the death and destruction in the former YU and blaming the Milošević family is just typical Western deceit"
The time for change and a strong Serbia has come.
(ZK UK, 28 May 2008 11:40)

I have to agree with you also when you say it is US, UK and NATO who are responsible, because in lack of determined punishment to serbia for what serbia did to its neighbors SPS get to come back and form governments.

bganon, Milosevic only "took part" in one war over Kosovo which he militarily lost, but secured a UNSC resolution keeping the territorial integrity of his country intact. The only way he had of avoiding that war was to allow NATO troops into Kosovo without a binding UNSC resolution along with the Rambouillet accord that would have meant he would have signed Kosovo totally away. Instead he forced the NATO countries into an agreement that they knew they would have to break themselves several years later which was happened in Feb this year.

Milanovic is a fall guy. Wesley Clark claims he told CNN to lead that the RTS building was to be bombed. But CNN wanted to have an interview with the then Serbian Minister of Information at the time just after the attack happened which doesn't make sense if they were supposed to be warning of the attack.

Peter Sudyka, Serbia wasn't against the other republics seceding per se, but was against them doing it in a unilateral rather than a negociated fashion. Kosovo's declaration and its limited recognition is history repeating itself to a certain extent.

sps is telling ds in plain serbian that it aint happening. next condition will be, we'll join your government if you turn into a seagull and make a lazy circle over our heads. hopefully the ds gets it. belgrade today is a terrific sign of things to come. albanians, solanas, i'm sorry: we'll have a national resistance government defending national interests in this country. your boy popped the cork too soon on election night, shame :)
that said, milanovic deserves to rot in prison. nato killings of rts folks is the least of the reasons maybe, considering he was only carrying out orders to sacrifice those people. nato killed, milosevic scored media points, bob's yer uncle. milosevic and west did always work together so well to harm serbia and serbs.

now, peter, you scare me with your little knowledge :) you know it's dangerous. if serbia did 'something wrong' in 1998, how come no serb has been indicted by the hague for anything 'wrong' in 1998, but plenty of albanians have? peter, take this and use it in the future, it's good stuff, the truth: serbs were only indicted for their reaction to albanian crimes in 1998, and that reaction came AFTER, not BEFORE nato illegally attacked our country and killed thousands of people starting march 1999.
also you're talking to serbs here so kindly show some respect toward those victims. and, are you that anti-russkie fella? i dont like that, i dont like that at all :) we in serbia have been attacked by land snatchers in broad daylight and everyone is standing and watching doing nothing except russia. all my life i was pro western but the time has come to say it, like it or not :), god in heaven, russia on earth for us, warm and fuzzy bear hug :)
and peter assuming you are one why is it that you other slavs have never been able to stand up to anyone, russia, west, no one? sudentenland for instance it wasnt even taken from czechoslovakia. they signed it over themselves. well we're made from tougher material.

A serbia with Milosovic goverment again "the world is going to be suprised" i'm sure tha nationalist will agree to this...

ZK UK

"Milošević was not the perfect leader but I am fairly certain he protected Serbian interests. He did not allow Serbia to become a servant of the West and he did not lose Kosovo as the US and Albanians would like you to believe. ""

Unfortunately his actions led to Serbia being in the situation it is in now.

Think about it, had Serbia let Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina secede and not revoke Kosovo's autonomy without sending in the JNA to try and keep it a part of dead Yugoslavia, Serbia's economy would remain strong and politically it would not be in this mess it is now.

Serbia's present government, whoever leads it, should have as little to do with Milosevic, his family and the past as possible in order to work for Serbia's best interests, I think.

BTW Anti-Western nationalism is just not healthy for Serbia in this day and age.

Any request for the Ferrari of Marko's ?

Honestly saying, I would really regret that Serbs if this coalition happens (SOS-SRS-DSS-NS), as all these several parties/coalitions hardly consist 50%+1, which is deem needed to form a government, what in reality means that minorities (meaning minority of voters) will lead the country, what, again, means it is against the people’s will, and at the same time against the Serbia’s prosperity and integration to the modern and civilized world.

smile and Princip

OK sorry, Racak was 1999, not 1998, but I do know that Milosevic revoked Albanian autonomy and fired many people in the process, replacing them and local government people with his own sympathisers, also that Albanian culture and language was suppressed and as a result there was increased fighting between the KLA and Yugoslavia prior to the 1999 war, with several massacres taking place in the year 1998, though the big one Racak was 1999, though I also thought it was 1998, my mistake.

Princip

"Sure Peter I dodnt thik the Poles would be pleased if an ethnic group from a surrounding country populated old Poland capitol Crakow and surrounding region and were armed trained and backed by western military in the destruction of the rest of Poland - or would you still suggets Poles should be accepting and blame themselves? "

We have no such worry, because our minorities enjoy a high level of rights (Silesians, Kashubians and Germans being by far the largest groups) and they have no fear of them getting revoked, losing their jobs and their culture suppressed, though indeed if Wielkopolska was to be lost by Poland I would be furious.

Such slip ups question your Polish identity and show a distinct ignorance of reality regarding Serbia's recent past.""

This is a stupid argument. I don't see how some lack of knowledge on the matter has anything to do with my ethnic/national identity!

smile

"peter, take this and use it in the future, it's good stuff, the truth: serbs were only indicted for their reaction to albanian crimes in 1998, and that reaction came AFTER, not BEFORE nato illegally attacked our country and killed thousands of people starting march 1999.
"

OK, but this does not explain why NATO bombed Yugoslavia. The bombings came as a result of the masses of refugees that fled Kosovo and the reports of massacres of the civilian populations, as far as what I have read on this matter.

This is the million dollar question. How much changing / ignoring of the law is a non Seselj/Kostunica government worth?

In the end I still think that SRS will pick the DS coalition. So as a negotiator I would say that Marko still has to go on trial for cigarette smuggling and that Milanovic still has to serve his sentence as decided by the Serbian courts, but Mira can be let off the odd bit of stealing and possible command to murder Curuvija - disgusting though that is.

ZK Milosevic was not the perfect leader no. He was probably the worst leader in Serbian / Yugoslav history.

His crowning achievement apart from losing every war he took part in, was to break the constitution and allow foreign troops to be stationed upon Serbian territory - Kosovo.

No matter how you spin it Milosevic was a disaster for Serbia and its too late to rewrite history now.

Ana I am not so confident that some are capable of seeing how bad a government is. If some still think Milosevic was a good leader then basically you can do what you like with them and they will still always support the same 'side'.

vrnjak

I'm sorry, but if Serbia did nothing wrong in 1998, NATO would not have bombed them.

Regarding the ethnic cleansing, I think while Operation Storm and the events after the Kosovo War against the Serbs are completely unacceptable, it is difficult to say they are not understandable considering the chain of events leading up to them. Don't let nationalism get in the way of reason.

ZK UK

"Croatia's recognition was premature without resolving the status of the hundreds of thousands of Serbians who did not want to live in a separate nation."

You are quite right, I did not think of that. Point taken.

"Western backed Izetbegović provoked war because they wanted all of BiH to themselves."

This much I know as well, it is similar to the story of Croatia, but I think the argument in the case of Bosnia & Herzegovina was how hard the JNA came down on the common Bosniak populace, that's all (which isn't to say it wasn't mutual, but the Serbs were definitely harsher, judging by what is available on the matter on the internet).

"
Finally, as far as I'm aware, Kosovo's autonomy was not revoked but reduced."

This begs the question to what level that would lead the Albanians pushing for self-determination, though indeed I should read more on this before commenting again.

PJD

I understand what you are saying, but instead of Serbia taking up the stance that they are currently doing against Kosovo (which would have been far more beneficial to Serbia), they sent in armed forces and, from the resources available, acted quite brutally in all the conflicts that occurred after Yugoslavia fell apart (bar Slovenia, which was all of ten days).

Peter Sudyka;

"I'm sorry, but if Serbia did nothing wrong in 1998, NATO would not have bombed them. "

Are you that ignorant of the facts that show NATO and West Europe hell bent on their bombardment of SErbia no matter what Milosevic didd? Please tell us and reference what exactly Serbia did wrong in 1998? Was it that it failed to cow-tow to all and evertyhing against its interest but wholly in the interest of those who wanted an excuse to attack it???

Peter, What exactly did Serbia do wrong????

"In reality, the "Kosovan crisis" was as contrived as the Iraqi "WMD crisis" of four years later. The west encouraged a terrorist group, the KLA, to provoke the Yugoslav authorities, and when the anti-terrorist response from Belgrade came, the US and Britain were ready to produce a document at the Rambouillet "peace" conference, which as defence minister Lord Gilbert has conceded, was deliberately designed to be rejected by the Yugoslavs.

Why was it all done? The rump Yugoslavia was targeted not for "humanitarian" reasons - as many on the liberal-left still mistakenly believe - but simply because it stood in the way. You don't have to take my word for it - here's George Kenney of the US state department. "In post-cold war Europe no place remained for a large, independent-minded socialist state that resisted globalisation.""
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/neil_clark/2007/01/blairs_earlier_illegal_war.html


Peter, why was Germany and the US secret services start training and arming KLA terrorists in the mid 90's - before any crack down by Serbia in its province ???

"Both the CIA and German intelligence (BND) supported the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a terrorist organization with links to Al Qaeda.

This report by the German TV ZDF Network, reviewed by Mira Beham, is revealing in many regards.

First the report corroborates earlier analysis on the role of the BND and the CIA in supporting the KLA, several years prior as well as in the wake of the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia.

Second, it further documents and confirms the KLA's links to Al Qaeda and the role of the latter in the Kosovo conflict:

"What German journalists and their Dutch colleagues at VPRO Radio Television investigated has a long tradition. Since the beginning of the 1990s the BND has maintained contacts with the KLA, which was then considered to be a terrorist organization. Although we have to admit that the KLA has stronger ties with the CIA than the BND. Commander Hoxha had ties with the CIA, the BND and with the Austrian military intelligence service which has devoted great attention to this region and has very good connections with the KLA.""
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BEH502A.html

Sure Peter I dodnt thik the Poles would be pleased if an ethnic group from a surrounding country populated old Poland capitol Crakow and surrounding region and were armed trained and backed by western military in the destruction of the rest of Poland - or would you still suggets Poles should be accepting and blame themselves?

Such slip ups question your Polish identity and show a distinct ignorance of reality regarding Serbia's recent past.

Peter - think and do your research before commenting on this Serbian website with such poor understanding of what Serbia did or didnt do wrong!

This is the million dollar question. How much changing / ignoring of the law is a non Seselj/Kostunica government worth?

In the end I still think that SRS will pick the DS coalition. So as a negotiator I would say that Marko still has to go on trial for cigarette smuggling and that Milanovic still has to serve his sentence as decided by the Serbian courts, but Mira can be let off the odd bit of stealing and possible command to murder Curuvija - disgusting though that is.

ZK Milosevic was not the perfect leader no. He was probably the worst leader in Serbian / Yugoslav history.

His crowning achievement apart from losing every war he took part in, was to break the constitution and allow foreign troops to be stationed upon Serbian territory - Kosovo.

No matter how you spin it Milosevic was a disaster for Serbia and its too late to rewrite history now.

Ana I am not so confident that some are capable of seeing how bad a government is. If some still think Milosevic was a good leader then basically you can do what you like with them and they will still always support the same 'side'.

Although I promised to myself that I would not comment any more, today I have to say that I simply have to...

The reason are all this nationals posting here...One thing is to be a patriot and another thing is to be ignorant...

Although it does hurt me a lot, I must say I will like to see the SRS-DSS-SPS coalition to be formed...And then to see how all of you together are going to, hopefuly, exist only in history books (as a black stain of Serbias history) in a few years time...This is were you belong...

And this comes from me, who doesn't have anything against Russia, China, etc...but doesn't have anything against EU countries as well and does not consider them as enemies...

It is so dissapointng to see what kind of people post here and no wonder we are all considered savage nationalists around the world...

What a pity for Serbia!

All I can say is: "Kostunica for crime minister!"

Comment: "I have to agree with the SPS here. It is the US, UK, Germany and NATO who are largely responsible for the death and destruction in the former YU and blaming the Milošević family is just typical Western deceit"
The time for change and a strong Serbia has come.
(ZK UK, 28 May 2008 11:40)

I have to agree with you also when you say it is US, UK and NATO who are responsible, because in lack of determined punishment to serbia for what serbia did to its neighbors SPS get to come back and form governments.

A serbia with Milosovic goverment again "the world is going to be suprised" i'm sure tha nationalist will agree to this...

Saying things like "we will form a government if you will protect our criminals" is going to make Serbia go back down the black hole that I thought it had emerged from.

Sad .... extremely sad .....

ZK UK

"Milošević was not the perfect leader but I am fairly certain he protected Serbian interests. He did not allow Serbia to become a servant of the West and he did not lose Kosovo as the US and Albanians would like you to believe. ""

Unfortunately his actions led to Serbia being in the situation it is in now.

Think about it, had Serbia let Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina secede and not revoke Kosovo's autonomy without sending in the JNA to try and keep it a part of dead Yugoslavia, Serbia's economy would remain strong and politically it would not be in this mess it is now.

Serbia's present government, whoever leads it, should have as little to do with Milosevic, his family and the past as possible in order to work for Serbia's best interests, I think.

BTW Anti-Western nationalism is just not healthy for Serbia in this day and age.

vrnjak

I'm sorry, but if Serbia did nothing wrong in 1998, NATO would not have bombed them.

Regarding the ethnic cleansing, I think while Operation Storm and the events after the Kosovo War against the Serbs are completely unacceptable, it is difficult to say they are not understandable considering the chain of events leading up to them. Don't let nationalism get in the way of reason.

ZK UK

"Croatia's recognition was premature without resolving the status of the hundreds of thousands of Serbians who did not want to live in a separate nation."

You are quite right, I did not think of that. Point taken.

"Western backed Izetbegović provoked war because they wanted all of BiH to themselves."

This much I know as well, it is similar to the story of Croatia, but I think the argument in the case of Bosnia & Herzegovina was how hard the JNA came down on the common Bosniak populace, that's all (which isn't to say it wasn't mutual, but the Serbs were definitely harsher, judging by what is available on the matter on the internet).

"
Finally, as far as I'm aware, Kosovo's autonomy was not revoked but reduced."

This begs the question to what level that would lead the Albanians pushing for self-determination, though indeed I should read more on this before commenting again.

PJD

I understand what you are saying, but instead of Serbia taking up the stance that they are currently doing against Kosovo (which would have been far more beneficial to Serbia), they sent in armed forces and, from the resources available, acted quite brutally in all the conflicts that occurred after Yugoslavia fell apart (bar Slovenia, which was all of ten days).

Honestly saying, I would really regret that Serbs if this coalition happens (SOS-SRS-DSS-NS), as all these several parties/coalitions hardly consist 50%+1, which is deem needed to form a government, what in reality means that minorities (meaning minority of voters) will lead the country, what, again, means it is against the people’s will, and at the same time against the Serbia’s prosperity and integration to the modern and civilized world.

I have to agree with the SPS here. It is the US, UK, Germany and NATO who are largely responsible for the death and destruction in the former YU and blaming the Milošević family is just typical Western deceit.

They are very quick to accept the cigarette smuggling president of Montenegro, who claimed it was necessary for the survival of that republic but put out an arrest warrant for the Milošević family for doing the same thing.

Furthermore, the bombing of the RTS studio is entirely NATOs war crime and not that of ex-RTS Chief Dragoljub Milanović. NATO need to be held accountable instead of continually blaming Serbia for their crimes.

Just like the Croatians are attempting to blame Serbia in its genocide case for ethnically cleansing hundreds of thousands of Serbians, so to is NATO attempting to blame Serbia for all of its crimes.

This is the moment Serbia turns the table and stands up for what is right. It has strong international backing now so the time has come.

Milošević was not the perfect leader but I am fairly certain he protected Serbian interests. He did not allow Serbia to become a servant of the West and he did not lose Kosovo as the US and Albanians would like you to believe.

Under enormous pressure, he managed to get the US, UN and NATO to agree to Kosovo being an integral part of Serbia and that any solution would only permit Kosovo to be autonomous.

Lets be clear, it is the DS - the puppets of the West, who would permit Kosovo to be more than autonomous. That party illegally handed over Serbian citizens, against the constitution, to the Hague for financial promises there were never met. It pursued the convictions of Serbians for war crimes NATO committed. The list is endless but thank god the DS and all the deceit will be in opposition for some time to come.

The time for change and a strong Serbia has come.

If the SPS, DSS and the Radicals manage to agree.. to form a GOVERMENT, then Serbia will have the UPPER HAND in ..ANY.future talks with the EU..apart from receiving ALL the HELP NEEDED from Russia .. and CHINA... and.. it`s the ONLY WAY in which KOSOVO will AGAIN be .. PART OF SERBIA!!
Ernst - Germany

"against the Serbia’s prosperity and integration to the modern and civilized world."

Oh no, not yet another "enlightened" Soros-infected Serb that hates everything that even remotely remainds of anything Serbian...

You might as well, after so many years with a western "government" and a country bogged down in anglo-american dirty grease, accept that Serbia will never be a McDonalds-Wal mart-Disneyland on the Danube. As long as there are Serbians there will always be a Serbian Serbia.

Mr. Dacic:

I am positive that the SRS and DSS will not have any problems accomodating you.
Welcome to the Serbian club!!

Any request for the Ferrari of Marko's ?

BTW Anti-Western nationalism is just not healthy for Serbia in this day and age.
(Peter Sudyka, 28 May 2008 16:46)

???

What is the proper stance for Serbia to take with the West which has facilitated the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Croatia and Kosovo i Metohija, rained bombs and depleted uranium causing vast economic and environmental ruin, declared imminant domain on Serbia's territory in the name NATO -- I mean the suffering Albanians -- and, lastly demonized the entire Serbian nation to legitmize this this holy hell. Also, it is internationalism that has traded peace for the promise of an illusion of prosperity, not nationalism.

Peter

What's done is done but my point is that blaming Milošević for all of the Balkan wars is Western deceit and propaganda as the West was largely responsible for the wars. Premature recognition, lack of negotiations and withdrawal of agreements all point to the West.

Slovenia was not really an issue as was Macedonia or Montenegro. They went their own way relatively peacefully.

Croatia's recognition was premature without resolving the status of the hundreds of thousands of Serbians who did not want to live in a separate nation. Germany's premature recognition was generally blamed at the time for starting the conflict.

An agreement was signed in BiH (Carrington-Cutileiro peace plan or Lisbon agreement) for a peaceful solution but Alija Izetbegović broke it after meetings with the US. You see, Milošević did follow the peaceful route but Western backed Izetbegović provoked war because they wanted all of BiH to themselves. That cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

Finally, as far as I'm aware, Kosovo's autonomy was not revoked but reduced. However, I am convinced that no matter what Serbia did the West was determined to go to war. You only need to read the Rambouillet proposal, how NATO wanted to occupy all of Serbia and the ultimatum it was given at the time.

Though Milošević was not ideal, he was the best leader Serbia had at that time. He was severely demonised by the west and they blamed him for practically everything.

Yes, he is history now but perhaps the SPS will put some things right.

bganon, Milosevic only "took part" in one war over Kosovo which he militarily lost, but secured a UNSC resolution keeping the territorial integrity of his country intact. The only way he had of avoiding that war was to allow NATO troops into Kosovo without a binding UNSC resolution along with the Rambouillet accord that would have meant he would have signed Kosovo totally away. Instead he forced the NATO countries into an agreement that they knew they would have to break themselves several years later which was happened in Feb this year.

Milanovic is a fall guy. Wesley Clark claims he told CNN to lead that the RTS building was to be bombed. But CNN wanted to have an interview with the then Serbian Minister of Information at the time just after the attack happened which doesn't make sense if they were supposed to be warning of the attack.

Peter Sudyka, Serbia wasn't against the other republics seceding per se, but was against them doing it in a unilateral rather than a negociated fashion. Kosovo's declaration and its limited recognition is history repeating itself to a certain extent.

sps is telling ds in plain serbian that it aint happening. next condition will be, we'll join your government if you turn into a seagull and make a lazy circle over our heads. hopefully the ds gets it. belgrade today is a terrific sign of things to come. albanians, solanas, i'm sorry: we'll have a national resistance government defending national interests in this country. your boy popped the cork too soon on election night, shame :)
that said, milanovic deserves to rot in prison. nato killings of rts folks is the least of the reasons maybe, considering he was only carrying out orders to sacrifice those people. nato killed, milosevic scored media points, bob's yer uncle. milosevic and west did always work together so well to harm serbia and serbs.

now, peter, you scare me with your little knowledge :) you know it's dangerous. if serbia did 'something wrong' in 1998, how come no serb has been indicted by the hague for anything 'wrong' in 1998, but plenty of albanians have? peter, take this and use it in the future, it's good stuff, the truth: serbs were only indicted for their reaction to albanian crimes in 1998, and that reaction came AFTER, not BEFORE nato illegally attacked our country and killed thousands of people starting march 1999.
also you're talking to serbs here so kindly show some respect toward those victims. and, are you that anti-russkie fella? i dont like that, i dont like that at all :) we in serbia have been attacked by land snatchers in broad daylight and everyone is standing and watching doing nothing except russia. all my life i was pro western but the time has come to say it, like it or not :), god in heaven, russia on earth for us, warm and fuzzy bear hug :)
and peter assuming you are one why is it that you other slavs have never been able to stand up to anyone, russia, west, no one? sudentenland for instance it wasnt even taken from czechoslovakia. they signed it over themselves. well we're made from tougher material.

Peter Sudyka;

"I'm sorry, but if Serbia did nothing wrong in 1998, NATO would not have bombed them. "

Are you that ignorant of the facts that show NATO and West Europe hell bent on their bombardment of SErbia no matter what Milosevic didd? Please tell us and reference what exactly Serbia did wrong in 1998? Was it that it failed to cow-tow to all and evertyhing against its interest but wholly in the interest of those who wanted an excuse to attack it???

Peter, What exactly did Serbia do wrong????

"In reality, the "Kosovan crisis" was as contrived as the Iraqi "WMD crisis" of four years later. The west encouraged a terrorist group, the KLA, to provoke the Yugoslav authorities, and when the anti-terrorist response from Belgrade came, the US and Britain were ready to produce a document at the Rambouillet "peace" conference, which as defence minister Lord Gilbert has conceded, was deliberately designed to be rejected by the Yugoslavs.

Why was it all done? The rump Yugoslavia was targeted not for "humanitarian" reasons - as many on the liberal-left still mistakenly believe - but simply because it stood in the way. You don't have to take my word for it - here's George Kenney of the US state department. "In post-cold war Europe no place remained for a large, independent-minded socialist state that resisted globalisation.""
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/neil_clark/2007/01/blairs_earlier_illegal_war.html


Peter, why was Germany and the US secret services start training and arming KLA terrorists in the mid 90's - before any crack down by Serbia in its province ???

"Both the CIA and German intelligence (BND) supported the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a terrorist organization with links to Al Qaeda.

This report by the German TV ZDF Network, reviewed by Mira Beham, is revealing in many regards.

First the report corroborates earlier analysis on the role of the BND and the CIA in supporting the KLA, several years prior as well as in the wake of the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia.

Second, it further documents and confirms the KLA's links to Al Qaeda and the role of the latter in the Kosovo conflict:

"What German journalists and their Dutch colleagues at VPRO Radio Television investigated has a long tradition. Since the beginning of the 1990s the BND has maintained contacts with the KLA, which was then considered to be a terrorist organization. Although we have to admit that the KLA has stronger ties with the CIA than the BND. Commander Hoxha had ties with the CIA, the BND and with the Austrian military intelligence service which has devoted great attention to this region and has very good connections with the KLA.""
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BEH502A.html

Sure Peter I dodnt thik the Poles would be pleased if an ethnic group from a surrounding country populated old Poland capitol Crakow and surrounding region and were armed trained and backed by western military in the destruction of the rest of Poland - or would you still suggets Poles should be accepting and blame themselves?

Such slip ups question your Polish identity and show a distinct ignorance of reality regarding Serbia's recent past.

Peter - think and do your research before commenting on this Serbian website with such poor understanding of what Serbia did or didnt do wrong!

smile and Princip

OK sorry, Racak was 1999, not 1998, but I do know that Milosevic revoked Albanian autonomy and fired many people in the process, replacing them and local government people with his own sympathisers, also that Albanian culture and language was suppressed and as a result there was increased fighting between the KLA and Yugoslavia prior to the 1999 war, with several massacres taking place in the year 1998, though the big one Racak was 1999, though I also thought it was 1998, my mistake.

Princip

"Sure Peter I dodnt thik the Poles would be pleased if an ethnic group from a surrounding country populated old Poland capitol Crakow and surrounding region and were armed trained and backed by western military in the destruction of the rest of Poland - or would you still suggets Poles should be accepting and blame themselves? "

We have no such worry, because our minorities enjoy a high level of rights (Silesians, Kashubians and Germans being by far the largest groups) and they have no fear of them getting revoked, losing their jobs and their culture suppressed, though indeed if Wielkopolska was to be lost by Poland I would be furious.

Such slip ups question your Polish identity and show a distinct ignorance of reality regarding Serbia's recent past.""

This is a stupid argument. I don't see how some lack of knowledge on the matter has anything to do with my ethnic/national identity!

smile

"peter, take this and use it in the future, it's good stuff, the truth: serbs were only indicted for their reaction to albanian crimes in 1998, and that reaction came AFTER, not BEFORE nato illegally attacked our country and killed thousands of people starting march 1999.
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OK, but this does not explain why NATO bombed Yugoslavia. The bombings came as a result of the masses of refugees that fled Kosovo and the reports of massacres of the civilian populations, as far as what I have read on this matter.