"Of course we’re all for the EU… What’s the difference between our request that the EU has to accept Kosovo as part of Serbia, and President Tadić's statement, given right after the elections, that he would never recognize Kosovo's independence?" Nikolić said in an interview published by the online issue of German weekly Spiegel."
Does this guy even know what he is talking about? Is he aware of what he says?
If there is no difference between his view about EU and Tadic's then why he called Tadic a traitor, selling Serbia bla bla, for, as he said now, the same view as his.
" "If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," Nikolić replied, adding that it was to hard to believe that Romania would sit with its arms crossed in such an event, if after the Kosovo Albanians, the Hungarians in Romania demanded unification with Hungary."
Mr. Nikolic! I think that my country has proved that we are not Serbia`s enemys! So why would you want to stick your nose into our internal affairs? Our "problems" with the hungarian minority are caused by exactly those nationalist parties (on both sides) like your own! So please, speak about Serbia if you want, but spare the rest of us!
I understand what you are saying "I know how stubborn Serbs can be."
As you are talking about "being stubborn" do you know how stubborn Albanians can be?
I am pure Albanian as well as naturalised British and I know exactely where you are coming from.
Being stubborn is nothing to be proud of especially when you are talking about politics. Can you immagine how "stubborn" the Kosovar Albanians would have been should have not their will respected to be independent from Serbia.
This article is in contradiction to what Nikolic said to daily Dier Spiegel. The headline says: "Ultra nacinalist Nikolic threatens Europe with war over Kosova", now which is which Mr. Nikolic?
Serbia with politicians like Nikolic is heading towards ABBYS.
As a half Serb (mother's side) I know how stubborn Serbs can be. They can hold out for ever. I recall how one slick business man tried to trick us with a low offer for our car and although my dad wanted to take the offer, my mother wouldn't give in. We eventually got the price we were looking for. I see a similar style with Kosovo. Kosovo's American sponsors thought the Serbs would give in by now, but they have not. In fact, their persistence is strong and enviable. They, like my mom, will never give up on Kosovo. Eventually, the Kosovo Albanians and their American and EU sponsors will have to accept the truth that the move to create an independent Kosovo or a greater Albania in Hitler's image was a mistake.
"Says who? We will use our veto to prevent Kosovo from entering almost all international organizations."
Who is going to let you in EU with that thinking in mind?
Cyprus will be kicked out of EU should it continue to be destructrive. That is not what EU is all about.
"If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," said Nikolic.
Your party was in government when it lost the last war over Kosovo, Tomo, and subsequently retreated. It is very hard to imagine another war, unless of course, your party returns to power and attacks civil society activists and the LDP in Serbia itself. That would be very brave.
(Alex, 23 May 2008 20:13)"
Alex
Please read the article correctly. Nikoli was answering Spiegel's question about what happens should Pritina unite with Albania.
The was need not be between Serbia and someone else. It could be between Macedonians and their Albanian minority there. Or even between Nato and Tirana -- because even your precious Ahtisaari forbade any unification between Kosovo and Albania!
Michael Thomas,
The Germans are not all that omnipotent. True they have a strong economy but it is very dependent on foreign oil and other resources because it is actually quite a resource poor country. And with record oil prices rising ever higher ..... and your so-powerful Germany can be quickly brought to its knees by cutting off its gas and oil supplies. I think Berlin is all too painfully mindful of this, that's why they are diplomatically nice to the Russians .....
See I agree with Mr. Nikolic... while I am positive he doesn't really want to join the EU.. he would join it for the happiness of the Serbian people.
That is how I am.. personally I think the EU is just a bunch of hoopla the pro imperial/CIA agencies like B92, Blic and of course those NGO'S build to make it seem the only destiny for the Serbian people.
But to give the Serbs what they really want... I would be willing to join the EU... just as long as Resolution 1244 is respected.. and so far it has not.
Serbia has done its part... and even though those devils bombed us for 78 days.. if it will secure the happiness of the people... and give us prosperity.. then fine lets join the EU but never forget what devils we are working with!
The EU is not interest in “dialogue” with Serbia. Poor and powerless eastern European countries will get what they are given. There is no need for dialogue.
If Serbia refuses the EU diktat, then it will, by definition, be in “conflict” with the EU. Serbia can only avoid conflict if it is prepared to surrender its sovereignty to the EU.
Tadic understands this and accepts his place at Germany’s feet.
Nikolić appears not to understand the rules of the game.
An easier way to make sure that SRS don't have conflict with the EU and international organisations is to make sure Seselj keeps his mouth well and truly shut.
Nikolic I don't agree with your politics, but be a man and take control of your party. The votes you got are yours and not Seselj's, who if anything is losing you support and credibility. If Seselj is released you can deal with that later, but don't be a coward.
As for people that would make deals with the likes of Seselj. That speaks volumes about values - the murder of political opponents is something to be condemned - in a normal mind.
However, I agree that the EU was wrong to impose its view on Serbia - there was much scope for negotiation and agreement, but the US and the EU decided to humiliate Serbia instead. (Bob, 23 May 2008 18:49)
you forgot to mention, Bob, that Serbia was walking out of international negotiations once again.noone told Kosovo to declare UDI. they did it, because they realised, they have to take initiative into their own hands. what you are talking about, is self-humilitation of Serbia, for which you blame others. that your right.
The "joint" will of the Serbian people says that they want Kosovo and EU.
That's like wanting a palm tree in the arctic.
The EU would never override the freedom will of Kosovo, just to please the oppressive will of Serbia.
The best offer Serbia will get is the Ahtisaari plan. The sooner they realise that, the sooner they can move on with their EU aspirations. Otherwise, you can wait for the next recognition and diss the country who recognized. That will surely get Serbia to EU.
"If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," said Nikolic.
Your party was in government when it lost the last war over Kosovo, Tomo, and subsequently retreated. It is very hard to imagine another war, unless of course, your party returns to power and attacks civil society activists and the LDP in Serbia itself. That would be very brave.
I don't normally like his politics and I have a real distaste for what Seselj said about Đinđić.
However, I agree that the EU was wrong to impose its view on Serbia - there was much scope for negotiation and agreement, but the US and the EU decided to humiliate Serbia instead.
The electorate of Serbia have made it quite clear that Kosovo is part of Serbia and they have made it quite clear that they want to join the EU.
It is not an 'either' / 'or'.
Internal politics weakens the country. Serbs of all parties should join together and insist on their joint will.
"Of course we’re all for the EU ..." now Nikolic sells all his voters for fools - just for to get SPS into his coalition. what a firm spine the 'lider minimo of SRS' has! he better he should explain to Europe, why the leader of SRS praises the assassin of Dincic as a hero.
“They can’t keep on taking decisions about us without consulting us. Why did no-one propose to us a solution based on the Cyprus model? Cyprus is recognized as a country, even though its northern part is effectively independent,” Nikolić pointed out.
Says who? Autonomy was offered to Northern Mitrovica within legal boundaries of Kosova. Afterall the size and the population of Northern Kosova is comparable to Northern Cyprus.
I don't normally like his politics and I have a real distaste for what Seselj said about Đinđić.
However, I agree that the EU was wrong to impose its view on Serbia - there was much scope for negotiation and agreement, but the US and the EU decided to humiliate Serbia instead.
The electorate of Serbia have made it quite clear that Kosovo is part of Serbia and they have made it quite clear that they want to join the EU.
It is not an 'either' / 'or'.
Internal politics weakens the country. Serbs of all parties should join together and insist on their joint will.
An easier way to make sure that SRS don't have conflict with the EU and international organisations is to make sure Seselj keeps his mouth well and truly shut.
Nikolic I don't agree with your politics, but be a man and take control of your party. The votes you got are yours and not Seselj's, who if anything is losing you support and credibility. If Seselj is released you can deal with that later, but don't be a coward.
As for people that would make deals with the likes of Seselj. That speaks volumes about values - the murder of political opponents is something to be condemned - in a normal mind.
"If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," said Nikolic.
Your party was in government when it lost the last war over Kosovo, Tomo, and subsequently retreated. It is very hard to imagine another war, unless of course, your party returns to power and attacks civil society activists and the LDP in Serbia itself. That would be very brave.
(Alex, 23 May 2008 20:13)"
Alex
Please read the article correctly. Nikoli was answering Spiegel's question about what happens should Pritina unite with Albania.
The was need not be between Serbia and someone else. It could be between Macedonians and their Albanian minority there. Or even between Nato and Tirana -- because even your precious Ahtisaari forbade any unification between Kosovo and Albania!
Michael Thomas,
The Germans are not all that omnipotent. True they have a strong economy but it is very dependent on foreign oil and other resources because it is actually quite a resource poor country. And with record oil prices rising ever higher ..... and your so-powerful Germany can be quickly brought to its knees by cutting off its gas and oil supplies. I think Berlin is all too painfully mindful of this, that's why they are diplomatically nice to the Russians .....
See I agree with Mr. Nikolic... while I am positive he doesn't really want to join the EU.. he would join it for the happiness of the Serbian people.
That is how I am.. personally I think the EU is just a bunch of hoopla the pro imperial/CIA agencies like B92, Blic and of course those NGO'S build to make it seem the only destiny for the Serbian people.
But to give the Serbs what they really want... I would be willing to join the EU... just as long as Resolution 1244 is respected.. and so far it has not.
Serbia has done its part... and even though those devils bombed us for 78 days.. if it will secure the happiness of the people... and give us prosperity.. then fine lets join the EU but never forget what devils we are working with!
As a half Serb (mother's side) I know how stubborn Serbs can be. They can hold out for ever. I recall how one slick business man tried to trick us with a low offer for our car and although my dad wanted to take the offer, my mother wouldn't give in. We eventually got the price we were looking for. I see a similar style with Kosovo. Kosovo's American sponsors thought the Serbs would give in by now, but they have not. In fact, their persistence is strong and enviable. They, like my mom, will never give up on Kosovo. Eventually, the Kosovo Albanians and their American and EU sponsors will have to accept the truth that the move to create an independent Kosovo or a greater Albania in Hitler's image was a mistake.
"Of course we’re all for the EU ..." now Nikolic sells all his voters for fools - just for to get SPS into his coalition. what a firm spine the 'lider minimo of SRS' has! he better he should explain to Europe, why the leader of SRS praises the assassin of Dincic as a hero.
"Says who? We will use our veto to prevent Kosovo from entering almost all international organizations."
Who is going to let you in EU with that thinking in mind?
Cyprus will be kicked out of EU should it continue to be destructrive. That is not what EU is all about.
The EU is not interest in “dialogue” with Serbia. Poor and powerless eastern European countries will get what they are given. There is no need for dialogue.
If Serbia refuses the EU diktat, then it will, by definition, be in “conflict” with the EU. Serbia can only avoid conflict if it is prepared to surrender its sovereignty to the EU.
Tadic understands this and accepts his place at Germany’s feet.
Nikolić appears not to understand the rules of the game.
"Of course we’re all for the EU… What’s the difference between our request that the EU has to accept Kosovo as part of Serbia, and President Tadić's statement, given right after the elections, that he would never recognize Kosovo's independence?" Nikolić said in an interview published by the online issue of German weekly Spiegel."
Does this guy even know what he is talking about? Is he aware of what he says?
If there is no difference between his view about EU and Tadic's then why he called Tadic a traitor, selling Serbia bla bla, for, as he said now, the same view as his.
" "If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," Nikolić replied, adding that it was to hard to believe that Romania would sit with its arms crossed in such an event, if after the Kosovo Albanians, the Hungarians in Romania demanded unification with Hungary."
Mr. Nikolic! I think that my country has proved that we are not Serbia`s enemys! So why would you want to stick your nose into our internal affairs? Our "problems" with the hungarian minority are caused by exactly those nationalist parties (on both sides) like your own! So please, speak about Serbia if you want, but spare the rest of us!
I understand what you are saying "I know how stubborn Serbs can be."
As you are talking about "being stubborn" do you know how stubborn Albanians can be?
I am pure Albanian as well as naturalised British and I know exactely where you are coming from.
Being stubborn is nothing to be proud of especially when you are talking about politics. Can you immagine how "stubborn" the Kosovar Albanians would have been should have not their will respected to be independent from Serbia.
"If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," said Nikolic.
Your party was in government when it lost the last war over Kosovo, Tomo, and subsequently retreated. It is very hard to imagine another war, unless of course, your party returns to power and attacks civil society activists and the LDP in Serbia itself. That would be very brave.
The "joint" will of the Serbian people says that they want Kosovo and EU.
That's like wanting a palm tree in the arctic.
The EU would never override the freedom will of Kosovo, just to please the oppressive will of Serbia.
The best offer Serbia will get is the Ahtisaari plan. The sooner they realise that, the sooner they can move on with their EU aspirations. Otherwise, you can wait for the next recognition and diss the country who recognized. That will surely get Serbia to EU.
However, I agree that the EU was wrong to impose its view on Serbia - there was much scope for negotiation and agreement, but the US and the EU decided to humiliate Serbia instead. (Bob, 23 May 2008 18:49)
you forgot to mention, Bob, that Serbia was walking out of international negotiations once again.noone told Kosovo to declare UDI. they did it, because they realised, they have to take initiative into their own hands. what you are talking about, is self-humilitation of Serbia, for which you blame others. that your right.
This article is in contradiction to what Nikolic said to daily Dier Spiegel. The headline says: "Ultra nacinalist Nikolic threatens Europe with war over Kosova", now which is which Mr. Nikolic?
Serbia with politicians like Nikolic is heading towards ABBYS.
“They can’t keep on taking decisions about us without consulting us. Why did no-one propose to us a solution based on the Cyprus model? Cyprus is recognized as a country, even though its northern part is effectively independent,” Nikolić pointed out.
Says who? Autonomy was offered to Northern Mitrovica within legal boundaries of Kosova. Afterall the size and the population of Northern Kosova is comparable to Northern Cyprus.
“They can’t keep on taking decisions about us without consulting us. Why did no-one propose to us a solution based on the Cyprus model? Cyprus is recognized as a country, even though its northern part is effectively independent,” Nikolić pointed out.
Says who? Autonomy was offered to Northern Mitrovica within legal boundaries of Kosova. Afterall the size and the population of Northern Kosova is comparable to Northern Cyprus.
"Of course we’re all for the EU ..." now Nikolic sells all his voters for fools - just for to get SPS into his coalition. what a firm spine the 'lider minimo of SRS' has! he better he should explain to Europe, why the leader of SRS praises the assassin of Dincic as a hero.
"If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," said Nikolic.
Your party was in government when it lost the last war over Kosovo, Tomo, and subsequently retreated. It is very hard to imagine another war, unless of course, your party returns to power and attacks civil society activists and the LDP in Serbia itself. That would be very brave.
This article is in contradiction to what Nikolic said to daily Dier Spiegel. The headline says: "Ultra nacinalist Nikolic threatens Europe with war over Kosova", now which is which Mr. Nikolic?
Serbia with politicians like Nikolic is heading towards ABBYS.
However, I agree that the EU was wrong to impose its view on Serbia - there was much scope for negotiation and agreement, but the US and the EU decided to humiliate Serbia instead. (Bob, 23 May 2008 18:49)
you forgot to mention, Bob, that Serbia was walking out of international negotiations once again.noone told Kosovo to declare UDI. they did it, because they realised, they have to take initiative into their own hands. what you are talking about, is self-humilitation of Serbia, for which you blame others. that your right.
The "joint" will of the Serbian people says that they want Kosovo and EU.
That's like wanting a palm tree in the arctic.
The EU would never override the freedom will of Kosovo, just to please the oppressive will of Serbia.
The best offer Serbia will get is the Ahtisaari plan. The sooner they realise that, the sooner they can move on with their EU aspirations. Otherwise, you can wait for the next recognition and diss the country who recognized. That will surely get Serbia to EU.
I understand what you are saying "I know how stubborn Serbs can be."
As you are talking about "being stubborn" do you know how stubborn Albanians can be?
I am pure Albanian as well as naturalised British and I know exactely where you are coming from.
Being stubborn is nothing to be proud of especially when you are talking about politics. Can you immagine how "stubborn" the Kosovar Albanians would have been should have not their will respected to be independent from Serbia.
An easier way to make sure that SRS don't have conflict with the EU and international organisations is to make sure Seselj keeps his mouth well and truly shut.
Nikolic I don't agree with your politics, but be a man and take control of your party. The votes you got are yours and not Seselj's, who if anything is losing you support and credibility. If Seselj is released you can deal with that later, but don't be a coward.
As for people that would make deals with the likes of Seselj. That speaks volumes about values - the murder of political opponents is something to be condemned - in a normal mind.
" "If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," Nikolić replied, adding that it was to hard to believe that Romania would sit with its arms crossed in such an event, if after the Kosovo Albanians, the Hungarians in Romania demanded unification with Hungary."
Mr. Nikolic! I think that my country has proved that we are not Serbia`s enemys! So why would you want to stick your nose into our internal affairs? Our "problems" with the hungarian minority are caused by exactly those nationalist parties (on both sides) like your own! So please, speak about Serbia if you want, but spare the rest of us!
"Of course we’re all for the EU… What’s the difference between our request that the EU has to accept Kosovo as part of Serbia, and President Tadić's statement, given right after the elections, that he would never recognize Kosovo's independence?" Nikolić said in an interview published by the online issue of German weekly Spiegel."
Does this guy even know what he is talking about? Is he aware of what he says?
If there is no difference between his view about EU and Tadic's then why he called Tadic a traitor, selling Serbia bla bla, for, as he said now, the same view as his.
The EU is not interest in “dialogue” with Serbia. Poor and powerless eastern European countries will get what they are given. There is no need for dialogue.
If Serbia refuses the EU diktat, then it will, by definition, be in “conflict” with the EU. Serbia can only avoid conflict if it is prepared to surrender its sovereignty to the EU.
Tadic understands this and accepts his place at Germany’s feet.
Nikolić appears not to understand the rules of the game.
I don't normally like his politics and I have a real distaste for what Seselj said about Đinđić.
However, I agree that the EU was wrong to impose its view on Serbia - there was much scope for negotiation and agreement, but the US and the EU decided to humiliate Serbia instead.
The electorate of Serbia have made it quite clear that Kosovo is part of Serbia and they have made it quite clear that they want to join the EU.
It is not an 'either' / 'or'.
Internal politics weakens the country. Serbs of all parties should join together and insist on their joint will.
"If that happens, you can be certain that there will be a war in Europe," said Nikolic.
Your party was in government when it lost the last war over Kosovo, Tomo, and subsequently retreated. It is very hard to imagine another war, unless of course, your party returns to power and attacks civil society activists and the LDP in Serbia itself. That would be very brave.
(Alex, 23 May 2008 20:13)"
Alex
Please read the article correctly. Nikoli was answering Spiegel's question about what happens should Pritina unite with Albania.
The was need not be between Serbia and someone else. It could be between Macedonians and their Albanian minority there. Or even between Nato and Tirana -- because even your precious Ahtisaari forbade any unification between Kosovo and Albania!
Michael Thomas,
The Germans are not all that omnipotent. True they have a strong economy but it is very dependent on foreign oil and other resources because it is actually quite a resource poor country. And with record oil prices rising ever higher ..... and your so-powerful Germany can be quickly brought to its knees by cutting off its gas and oil supplies. I think Berlin is all too painfully mindful of this, that's why they are diplomatically nice to the Russians .....
See I agree with Mr. Nikolic... while I am positive he doesn't really want to join the EU.. he would join it for the happiness of the Serbian people.
That is how I am.. personally I think the EU is just a bunch of hoopla the pro imperial/CIA agencies like B92, Blic and of course those NGO'S build to make it seem the only destiny for the Serbian people.
But to give the Serbs what they really want... I would be willing to join the EU... just as long as Resolution 1244 is respected.. and so far it has not.
Serbia has done its part... and even though those devils bombed us for 78 days.. if it will secure the happiness of the people... and give us prosperity.. then fine lets join the EU but never forget what devils we are working with!
"Says who? We will use our veto to prevent Kosovo from entering almost all international organizations."
Who is going to let you in EU with that thinking in mind?
Cyprus will be kicked out of EU should it continue to be destructrive. That is not what EU is all about.
As a half Serb (mother's side) I know how stubborn Serbs can be. They can hold out for ever. I recall how one slick business man tried to trick us with a low offer for our car and although my dad wanted to take the offer, my mother wouldn't give in. We eventually got the price we were looking for. I see a similar style with Kosovo. Kosovo's American sponsors thought the Serbs would give in by now, but they have not. In fact, their persistence is strong and enviable. They, like my mom, will never give up on Kosovo. Eventually, the Kosovo Albanians and their American and EU sponsors will have to accept the truth that the move to create an independent Kosovo or a greater Albania in Hitler's image was a mistake.
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