Report: Kosovo Albanians stone Czech bus

"Serbia was not betrayed by the Czech people, but by the Czech government. The people have always been the same”, he insisted. "

if that is a realistic approach, then let´s just see whether the Czech republic is not the one to be the first to revoke that unreasonable move again...

as for the stoning of that bus:
does anybody wonder about it? where small children are already taught to hate all non-albanians, what do you expect?

This is a very nice thank you from the Kosovo Albanians for the Czech recognition of independence.

That's what you get when you have derogatory terms "Kosova is Serbian" on the side.

Jovan one has to wonder why "children" are traveling to war-torn countries.

It makes me sick how far some can go to get attention, if KPS is not aware or didnt had any report then its all a big lie.

Maks,

The influence of the Serbian MUP is astonishing, right?

Imagine being able to manipulate Albanian youths. I mean, the Serbs can't prevent the Albanians from stealing our land but we can make them throw stones at buses carrying humanitarian aid!?

Pejoni, Miri, Maks, and other Albanian groupthinkers:

Please stop thinking that everytime some kind of news that places Albanians in a less than civilized light comes out, it is somehow orchestrated by some so-called Super Secret Serbian Ninja Service of Doom to Degrade Albanians. Maybe, and this is a conceptual stretch, but I'm going to risk the assumption, but with an organization called "Petition Board Against Recognizing Kosovo’s Independence" the local peasants thought "ooh, against independence! Me smash!" And threw rocks and other assorted materials one finds on the ground. I mean we're not exactly talking about the smartest place on Earth here.

So to make it as simple as possible for you: people who do not agree with your version of how the world works, do not automatically have a "Bolshevik" mentality alys Maks' short-sighted concludes. And just as there are simple-minded idiots in Serbia, so too, Miri, are there simple minded idiots in Kosovo Province. And finally Pejoni, I doubt the KPS, that bastion of security and law in Southeast Europe is really going to care if a bus was stoned in Decani. Just because they didn't respond to it doesn't make it a non-entity.

And if 4 Serb families have been living in Decani since the beginning of the year, I doubt they would have any problems since they are barely a presence anyway.

I know it delays getting your message out on B92, but sometimes a little prethinking before you hit the "Send" button can go a long way.

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It is very clear that this act was clear a provocation orchestrated and paid by Serbian Secret Service to low the image of great freedom act of recognizing Kosovo by Czech government. The world cannot by anymore those lie. Those are crocodile crying act from Serbian nationalism in cooperation with few Bolshevik mentality from Czech Republic, each are minority and cannot be confused with freedom lover Czech people."

Really? And who would attack them? The old Serbian man that just returned and was attacked and hurt the same day? THERE IS NO SERBS THERE to attack them!
The Monastery is surrounded by the walls and guarded by the soldiers, I have been there and I have seen the looks on the faces of Albanians driving by.
They didn't know who was in the bus, and they attacked, thinking that it was, naturally, Serbs visiting Serbian Monastery!
It is time to stop the lies and it is time for the world to see who they are dealing with! Liers, drug and human traffickers and killers!
The truth WILL come out, just wait.
Kosovo is Serbia.

"Serbia was not betrayed by the Czech people, but by the Czech government.”

It is very clear that this act was clear a provocation orchestrated and paid by Serbian Secret Service to low the image of great freedom act of recognizing Kosovo by Czech government. The world cannot by anymore those lie. Those are crocodile crying act from Serbian nationalism in cooperation with few Bolshevik mentality from Czech Republic, each are minority and cannot be confused with freedom lover Czech people. Thank you Czech Republic! We always will be grateful.

Sure thing, go ahead, report problems and be stoned for that.

Maks,

I fully agree with you. I also shared Pejoni's view but did not see my comment yet. B92 do I have the right to disagree with this provocative action of that tinny czech group???

Pejoni,

I share your thoughts. The whole thing looks very "fishy" to say the least.
This was apparently not an impartial group of "humanitarians" but a very partisan group of opponents of Kosovo's independence determined to get attention from the start for propoganda purposes. I find it most disgusting.

Come one, lets be serious for a second. Why would these people report it to the KPS? I think after the initial shock they realised this was a standard greeting from the Albanians.

When the occupiers entered Kosovo, the Albanians greeted them by burning houses, churches and ethnically cleansings 150,000 Serbians.

Take it as a compliment.

"“where Albanian children ask where are their parents are, and are told that they have been massacred by their neighbours and paramilitaries”.
(blero, 22 May 2008 16:00)"

blero, you are certainly referring to those poor albanian children whose parents were killed by terrorists ( socalled kla ) only for being loyal and law-obeying citizens of Serbia, right?

in that case, your comment would make sense...

@KV

where is that nonsense from? that rubbish,that on the bus there was something like "Kosovo is serbian "???

ask yourself, nobody would dare to do that, since it would automatically lead to hate-related attacks by mislead albanian children ( as I have written above, those who were taught to hate non-albanians by their mothers when they were small kids )

come on, KV, ask yourself, is that a credible information you are referring to? I think the answer is clear. probably some albanian yellow-press has invented it in order to blame the Serbs or other non-albanians for being attacked by Albanians.

or is it even your own lie?

anyway, it is simply not credible, and I think you know it yourself...

but, given that it was the truth, ..what would that say about the Albanians and their sense for democratic values such as freedom of speech?

no matter how you turn it, my dear albanian friend, you are the bad-guys, and there´s nothing you can do to hide it!

the stoning of that czech bus will be a very emotional information in the czech media, that´s something you can be sure of.

just go on with that, I thank you for that, since you are working very successfully for the re-integration of the southern-serbian province into the serbian state.

Mr. Sudyka, even if Czech government wouldn't recognize Kosova, K-Albanians wouldn't hold any grudge against it.
It's unimaginable for this incident to have happened.

“The fact that the Czech government recognized Kosovo’s independence, of which I am deeply ashamed, has meant nothing to those ‘peace loving’ and ‘democratic’ Albanians”, said Jaroslav Foldina, regional leader of the Czech Social Democrats"

When I see/listen to such statements I wonder if black is white and white is black.

I see 800 thousand Serbs being forced to live their homes and their ID destroyed by teh Kosovar Police.

I see thousand of Serbian houses to flame by the Kosovar paramilitary troops.

I see women raped and children left in the mountains like beasts.

As result of all this I see Kosova bombed not Serbia.

I understand who is peace loving and who is aggressor.

The main problem that Albanians have is that we are a very old Europen civilization, jelous of our old culture, that has no other relatives.

And we have to deal with a nation part of a very large ethnic and linguistic group Slavs- part of which are those Czechs that "distribute aid" to their brothers.

Who was distributing aid to us in 1999?

It was the moral of the peace loving nations and their Gov.ts that helped us- lead only by their moral values not because of being part of their ethic group.

This is the difference between Jaroslav Foldina & Co and the freedom loving ppl.

"That's what you get when you have derogatory terms "Kosova is Serbian" on the side."

KV, the only people that would say "Kosova is Serbian" are Albanians because they are the only people to use "Kosova". If you're trying to make an argument of what Serbs would do, you can write "Kosovo". It's ok. You won't suffer from a seizure or something if you write "Kosovo".

Look, I'll even write Kosova without quotations.

As you can see, I'm still here. My brain didn't explode, nor do I fear Obraz chasing me down as a traitor.

Kosova Kosova Kosova. See? I can write it even though I don't believe in it, nor do I support it. Nationalists can be such a hoot.

I find it most disgusting.
(Joe, 22 May 2008 16:02)

Joe, I fully agree with you. Its very disgusting that someone could stone a bus full of aid, regardless of who it was meant for. It just shows how primitive some people could be.

The ancient time when Serbia was spokepersons of balkans has finished with the 20Century, Now is 21 Century no need for spokeperson so propaganda is dead, the whole world can see everything,they'll make diference between the good and the evil, no more ages of blindness no more LIES!!!

where small children are already taught to hate all non-albanians, what do you expect?
(Jovan, 22 May 2008 14:27)

Well Jovan, I took the liberty to alter your last sentence (I hope you don’t mind).
It goes like below:
“where Albanian children ask where are their parents are, and are told that they have been massacred by their neighbours and paramilitaries”.

'Petition Board Against Recognizing Kosovo’s Independence'
The name says it all. Were they there to send aid or stirr things up?! I'll leave this to the 'well educated', 'well mannered' non-Albanians to decide.

UGGHHHH.I can totally imagine the scene. Once my boyfriend got attacked and beaten up by a group of five-six of Albanians in Switzerland...in a cafe, just like that they jumped on him when they heard him speaking Serbian...

a group of Swiss men had to jump in to separate them

my neighbour was almost killed by two Albanian 'democrats' in Dallas, USA. Also just because he spoke Serbian.

miri

Relax miri, it was just a coincidence (maybe perhaps ironic) that the Czechs recognized Kosovo and some Albanians stoned a Czech bus. Of course this is not the behavior of all Albanians, but the behavior of these ones is unacceptable, considering the Western future Kosovo is pushing for, that's all.

This is pure lie. My God some people never change...

Serbian families living peacefully in Kosovo are now counted like near extinct species. Multi-ethnic kosovo- what a joke.

Wouldn't the incident be reported to KFOR? UNMIK? The KPS isn't recognised by the Serbs as a valid institution, so why bother with them?

What about a bus is driven all around Serbia with Provocation on the side Serbia is Albanian, carrying humanitarian aid for Albanians living in Novi Pazar.
It could be next week you never now what MUP has got on agenda.
These Radicals here are living in European Countries so they don't care about good poor serbs living in Serbia, that's way never change.

Thank you very much Czech Republik ///we love you///....

Pejoni: Here I am, I was sitting in the bus and 38 another people with me. Please do not indicate as a lie something you don't know at all.

rolerkoster, what to say - who doesn't believe. As I said there were another 38 people in the bus, including one journalist, few tents of students, politician, bus drivers, people with diferent motivations, few of them interested only of historical monasteries and churches and with no care about any politics. Any of them can whitness. The picture of the bus is fake of course but it changes nothing it was first time in my live and in my travelling (Europe and Asia) when someone was throwing stones on me.

people are voting and they are the base of every political system,they choose and they are choosed like FIRST TARGET, ig you want to chnage something start with the people from the base to the top=guverment, if they will start sufer feel the presure then they will start think about the did i choose vote the right goverment?recognize kosovo?? execlent high prieces and inflation for all theese countries the show si starting

let's collect facts: Jaroslav Fodina speaks for himself, but not for the whole Czech Republic.

the only photo which appeared from the bus from Czech was attacked rather in photo shop.
http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/05/czech-bus-stoned.html

all that looks like a primitive provocation without any serious evidence.

If there are no serbs arround the decani monastery, than I feel hapy. If it is true let the priests sell it to us, we can convert it into a mosche. I visited Istanbul and the thing I liked the most was aya sofia, a greek church converted into a mosche.

On 24 May 2008 05:58, veki wrote:

"Once my boyfriend got attacked and beaten up by a group of five-six of Albanians in Switzerland...in a cafe, just like that they jumped on him when they heard him speaking Serbian..."

Yeah - and as part of the Welcome to Eurovision Song Contest in Belgrade, the Swedish journalists and staff covering the event (and possibly other journalists too), received a small leaflet with good advice for how to behave in Serbia. Among other things: Don't openly display homosexual behaviour, because Serbia is very homophobic, and bad results could happen if you do.

Conclusion: Stupid people exists everywhere, no matter what language they speak, or which Deity they believe in.

Pejoni: Here I am, I was sitting in the bus and 38 another people with me. Please do not indicate as a lie something you don't know at all.
(Petr/Prague, 25 May 2008 11:06)

sorry Petr, but I consider your story - like the published photo - as a fake. there is no other evidence than your words and articles launched by yourself.

"Serbia was not betrayed by the Czech people, but by the Czech government.”

It is very clear that this act was clear a provocation orchestrated and paid by Serbian Secret Service to low the image of great freedom act of recognizing Kosovo by Czech government. The world cannot by anymore those lie. Those are crocodile crying act from Serbian nationalism in cooperation with few Bolshevik mentality from Czech Republic, each are minority and cannot be confused with freedom lover Czech people. Thank you Czech Republic! We always will be grateful.

Mr. Sudyka, even if Czech government wouldn't recognize Kosova, K-Albanians wouldn't hold any grudge against it.
It's unimaginable for this incident to have happened.

That's what you get when you have derogatory terms "Kosova is Serbian" on the side.

Jovan one has to wonder why "children" are traveling to war-torn countries.

It makes me sick how far some can go to get attention, if KPS is not aware or didnt had any report then its all a big lie.

where small children are already taught to hate all non-albanians, what do you expect?
(Jovan, 22 May 2008 14:27)

Well Jovan, I took the liberty to alter your last sentence (I hope you don’t mind).
It goes like below:
“where Albanian children ask where are their parents are, and are told that they have been massacred by their neighbours and paramilitaries”.

Maks,

I fully agree with you. I also shared Pejoni's view but did not see my comment yet. B92 do I have the right to disagree with this provocative action of that tinny czech group???

This is pure lie. My God some people never change...

Pejoni,

I share your thoughts. The whole thing looks very "fishy" to say the least.
This was apparently not an impartial group of "humanitarians" but a very partisan group of opponents of Kosovo's independence determined to get attention from the start for propoganda purposes. I find it most disgusting.

The ancient time when Serbia was spokepersons of balkans has finished with the 20Century, Now is 21 Century no need for spokeperson so propaganda is dead, the whole world can see everything,they'll make diference between the good and the evil, no more ages of blindness no more LIES!!!

“The fact that the Czech government recognized Kosovo’s independence, of which I am deeply ashamed, has meant nothing to those ‘peace loving’ and ‘democratic’ Albanians”, said Jaroslav Foldina, regional leader of the Czech Social Democrats"

When I see/listen to such statements I wonder if black is white and white is black.

I see 800 thousand Serbs being forced to live their homes and their ID destroyed by teh Kosovar Police.

I see thousand of Serbian houses to flame by the Kosovar paramilitary troops.

I see women raped and children left in the mountains like beasts.

As result of all this I see Kosova bombed not Serbia.

I understand who is peace loving and who is aggressor.

The main problem that Albanians have is that we are a very old Europen civilization, jelous of our old culture, that has no other relatives.

And we have to deal with a nation part of a very large ethnic and linguistic group Slavs- part of which are those Czechs that "distribute aid" to their brothers.

Who was distributing aid to us in 1999?

It was the moral of the peace loving nations and their Gov.ts that helped us- lead only by their moral values not because of being part of their ethic group.

This is the difference between Jaroslav Foldina & Co and the freedom loving ppl.

"“where Albanian children ask where are their parents are, and are told that they have been massacred by their neighbours and paramilitaries”.
(blero, 22 May 2008 16:00)"

blero, you are certainly referring to those poor albanian children whose parents were killed by terrorists ( socalled kla ) only for being loyal and law-obeying citizens of Serbia, right?

in that case, your comment would make sense...

@KV

where is that nonsense from? that rubbish,that on the bus there was something like "Kosovo is serbian "???

ask yourself, nobody would dare to do that, since it would automatically lead to hate-related attacks by mislead albanian children ( as I have written above, those who were taught to hate non-albanians by their mothers when they were small kids )

come on, KV, ask yourself, is that a credible information you are referring to? I think the answer is clear. probably some albanian yellow-press has invented it in order to blame the Serbs or other non-albanians for being attacked by Albanians.

or is it even your own lie?

anyway, it is simply not credible, and I think you know it yourself...

but, given that it was the truth, ..what would that say about the Albanians and their sense for democratic values such as freedom of speech?

no matter how you turn it, my dear albanian friend, you are the bad-guys, and there´s nothing you can do to hide it!

the stoning of that czech bus will be a very emotional information in the czech media, that´s something you can be sure of.

just go on with that, I thank you for that, since you are working very successfully for the re-integration of the southern-serbian province into the serbian state.

"
It is very clear that this act was clear a provocation orchestrated and paid by Serbian Secret Service to low the image of great freedom act of recognizing Kosovo by Czech government. The world cannot by anymore those lie. Those are crocodile crying act from Serbian nationalism in cooperation with few Bolshevik mentality from Czech Republic, each are minority and cannot be confused with freedom lover Czech people."

Really? And who would attack them? The old Serbian man that just returned and was attacked and hurt the same day? THERE IS NO SERBS THERE to attack them!
The Monastery is surrounded by the walls and guarded by the soldiers, I have been there and I have seen the looks on the faces of Albanians driving by.
They didn't know who was in the bus, and they attacked, thinking that it was, naturally, Serbs visiting Serbian Monastery!
It is time to stop the lies and it is time for the world to see who they are dealing with! Liers, drug and human traffickers and killers!
The truth WILL come out, just wait.
Kosovo is Serbia.

miri

Relax miri, it was just a coincidence (maybe perhaps ironic) that the Czechs recognized Kosovo and some Albanians stoned a Czech bus. Of course this is not the behavior of all Albanians, but the behavior of these ones is unacceptable, considering the Western future Kosovo is pushing for, that's all.

"Serbia was not betrayed by the Czech people, but by the Czech government. The people have always been the same”, he insisted. "

if that is a realistic approach, then let´s just see whether the Czech republic is not the one to be the first to revoke that unreasonable move again...

as for the stoning of that bus:
does anybody wonder about it? where small children are already taught to hate all non-albanians, what do you expect?

This is a very nice thank you from the Kosovo Albanians for the Czech recognition of independence.

"That's what you get when you have derogatory terms "Kosova is Serbian" on the side."

KV, the only people that would say "Kosova is Serbian" are Albanians because they are the only people to use "Kosova". If you're trying to make an argument of what Serbs would do, you can write "Kosovo". It's ok. You won't suffer from a seizure or something if you write "Kosovo".

Look, I'll even write Kosova without quotations.

As you can see, I'm still here. My brain didn't explode, nor do I fear Obraz chasing me down as a traitor.

Kosova Kosova Kosova. See? I can write it even though I don't believe in it, nor do I support it. Nationalists can be such a hoot.

Pejoni, Miri, Maks, and other Albanian groupthinkers:

Please stop thinking that everytime some kind of news that places Albanians in a less than civilized light comes out, it is somehow orchestrated by some so-called Super Secret Serbian Ninja Service of Doom to Degrade Albanians. Maybe, and this is a conceptual stretch, but I'm going to risk the assumption, but with an organization called "Petition Board Against Recognizing Kosovo’s Independence" the local peasants thought "ooh, against independence! Me smash!" And threw rocks and other assorted materials one finds on the ground. I mean we're not exactly talking about the smartest place on Earth here.

So to make it as simple as possible for you: people who do not agree with your version of how the world works, do not automatically have a "Bolshevik" mentality alys Maks' short-sighted concludes. And just as there are simple-minded idiots in Serbia, so too, Miri, are there simple minded idiots in Kosovo Province. And finally Pejoni, I doubt the KPS, that bastion of security and law in Southeast Europe is really going to care if a bus was stoned in Decani. Just because they didn't respond to it doesn't make it a non-entity.

And if 4 Serb families have been living in Decani since the beginning of the year, I doubt they would have any problems since they are barely a presence anyway.

I know it delays getting your message out on B92, but sometimes a little prethinking before you hit the "Send" button can go a long way.

let's collect facts: Jaroslav Fodina speaks for himself, but not for the whole Czech Republic.

the only photo which appeared from the bus from Czech was attacked rather in photo shop.
http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/05/czech-bus-stoned.html

all that looks like a primitive provocation without any serious evidence.

If there are no serbs arround the decani monastery, than I feel hapy. If it is true let the priests sell it to us, we can convert it into a mosche. I visited Istanbul and the thing I liked the most was aya sofia, a greek church converted into a mosche.

Sure thing, go ahead, report problems and be stoned for that.

Maks,

The influence of the Serbian MUP is astonishing, right?

Imagine being able to manipulate Albanian youths. I mean, the Serbs can't prevent the Albanians from stealing our land but we can make them throw stones at buses carrying humanitarian aid!?

people are voting and they are the base of every political system,they choose and they are choosed like FIRST TARGET, ig you want to chnage something start with the people from the base to the top=guverment, if they will start sufer feel the presure then they will start think about the did i choose vote the right goverment?recognize kosovo?? execlent high prieces and inflation for all theese countries the show si starting

Wouldn't the incident be reported to KFOR? UNMIK? The KPS isn't recognised by the Serbs as a valid institution, so why bother with them?

Come one, lets be serious for a second. Why would these people report it to the KPS? I think after the initial shock they realised this was a standard greeting from the Albanians.

When the occupiers entered Kosovo, the Albanians greeted them by burning houses, churches and ethnically cleansings 150,000 Serbians.

Take it as a compliment.

I find it most disgusting.
(Joe, 22 May 2008 16:02)

Joe, I fully agree with you. Its very disgusting that someone could stone a bus full of aid, regardless of who it was meant for. It just shows how primitive some people could be.

What about a bus is driven all around Serbia with Provocation on the side Serbia is Albanian, carrying humanitarian aid for Albanians living in Novi Pazar.
It could be next week you never now what MUP has got on agenda.
These Radicals here are living in European Countries so they don't care about good poor serbs living in Serbia, that's way never change.

Thank you very much Czech Republik ///we love you///....

'Petition Board Against Recognizing Kosovo’s Independence'
The name says it all. Were they there to send aid or stirr things up?! I'll leave this to the 'well educated', 'well mannered' non-Albanians to decide.

UGGHHHH.I can totally imagine the scene. Once my boyfriend got attacked and beaten up by a group of five-six of Albanians in Switzerland...in a cafe, just like that they jumped on him when they heard him speaking Serbian...

a group of Swiss men had to jump in to separate them

my neighbour was almost killed by two Albanian 'democrats' in Dallas, USA. Also just because he spoke Serbian.

Serbian families living peacefully in Kosovo are now counted like near extinct species. Multi-ethnic kosovo- what a joke.

On 24 May 2008 05:58, veki wrote:

"Once my boyfriend got attacked and beaten up by a group of five-six of Albanians in Switzerland...in a cafe, just like that they jumped on him when they heard him speaking Serbian..."

Yeah - and as part of the Welcome to Eurovision Song Contest in Belgrade, the Swedish journalists and staff covering the event (and possibly other journalists too), received a small leaflet with good advice for how to behave in Serbia. Among other things: Don't openly display homosexual behaviour, because Serbia is very homophobic, and bad results could happen if you do.

Conclusion: Stupid people exists everywhere, no matter what language they speak, or which Deity they believe in.

Pejoni: Here I am, I was sitting in the bus and 38 another people with me. Please do not indicate as a lie something you don't know at all.

Pejoni: Here I am, I was sitting in the bus and 38 another people with me. Please do not indicate as a lie something you don't know at all.
(Petr/Prague, 25 May 2008 11:06)

sorry Petr, but I consider your story - like the published photo - as a fake. there is no other evidence than your words and articles launched by yourself.

rolerkoster, what to say - who doesn't believe. As I said there were another 38 people in the bus, including one journalist, few tents of students, politician, bus drivers, people with diferent motivations, few of them interested only of historical monasteries and churches and with no care about any politics. Any of them can whitness. The picture of the bus is fake of course but it changes nothing it was first time in my live and in my travelling (Europe and Asia) when someone was throwing stones on me.