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Monday, 19.05.2008.

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U.S.: Serbia should choose Europe

U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Rosemary Di Carlo says her country hopes Serbia will choose a European path.

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Jevic

pre 15 godina

If the US, UK & the EU elites wants Serbia to be fully integrated to Europe.then they should RESPECT serbia's territorial integrity. stealing kosovo from them is not the best solution.the atrocities committed by Milosevic is not the fault of the whole serbian nation & people.

claire

pre 15 godina

I just don't understand why any of the former Soviet States and former FRY states want to be a part of the EU/US Dictatorship!

Especially Serbia.....

roberto

pre 15 godina

"If Rosemary is looking for Karadžić she should do so in the US. Waterboard Holbrook and he'll tell you where he is."

i am very sorry to keep repeating this, but as i have already informed my highly esteemed co-posters at b92, there is no karadzic in the US. he dare not enter, because if he did he'd be immediately arrested, and then forced to pay out at least part of the multi-million dollar civil suit damages granted to some of his victims, raped and from concentration camps, in the past decade. yes, not a pretty picture.

i have several times reported his actual whereabouts but nobody there seems to take much notice: he is "hiding" in a very old religious building, bordering the bosnian/montenegro border. for real.

i have also explained that mr. mladic is currently under the desk of one very well known serbian politician, but this may need to slightly change in the current weeks, depending on how the political negotiations go.

sometimes i have to believe that you people are just not interested in finding those 2 gentlemen.

but then i am just a "self-admitted" jew who is "meddling" in serbia's private matters.

by the way, at least in american english, we do not connect the adjectival phrase "self-admitted" to the ethno-religious identity "Jew." it is, however, most appropriate to use "self-admitted" with the very descripive "anti-semite." catch my dift?

roberto from frisco

CERNIK ISTVAN

pre 15 godina

Serbia should choose Europe because Russia is a bad choice because historically there is not a single country/nation that Russia helped into prosperity. To poverty yes!

anti-white-supremacist

pre 15 godina

Dear B92,

until now I've had the opinion that B92 is a neutral information provider, but by placing the comment nr. 9 of Mr. Jovan on Mr. ZK UK and refusing mine, I am very well aware of your stance. So it is for B92 alowed to give one-sided comments in criminal-offence of Albanians, which are partly true and keeping silence about the widely known criminal acts of the Serbian army, police and paramilitaries. This is something to be proud of!!
But it seems part of the Serbian propaganda, which will never prevail over the opinion of people that are against any act of threat against neighbours.
Harald

Ataman

pre 15 godina

She is of course right. Any idea of Serbia building closer ties to Burkina-Faso, Madagaskar, Sierra-Leone than to Germany, Russia, Ukraina, Hungary is pure insanity. This is called Serbia chosing Europe. Unless, of course, if Germany or Russia is not in Europe but Madagaskar is.

There is of course a dumb or/and mean-spirited minority of political elite who try to sell a "Russia versus Europe", "Ukraina versus Europe" or "Serbia versus Europe".

Jovan

pre 15 godina

exactly, ZK!

by the way, who for heavens sake is DiCarlo??? =)

well, the world is a dark place... and Serbia is the light. ;)

but let´s be serious: Serbia is on the side of law, justice, moral and truth...while the others are desperately trying to deceive the rest of the world...

what shows the moral integrity of our albanian co-writers here is the mere fact that they didn´t lose one single word in regard of the hundreds of innocent serbian and even albanian civilians that were killed by the criminal kla-gang...

they even call them "hero´s"

that says it all, on so many levels!

luciano

pre 15 godina

The Serb people when the time comes should vote in a binding referendum.1.Serbia in EU-must recognize Kosovo indep.2.Serbia in EU only together with Kosovo as part of Serbia.Majority rules.End of problem

Lazo Mihajlovich

pre 15 godina

I ashamed at the arrogance and inconsistence of the government of my country, the US. In this article, the rep cites adherence to the Dayton accords to maintain the territorial integrity of Bosna, while at the same time ignoring UN1244 that grants the same territorial integrity with respect to Serbia/Kosovo.

The American people in general are totally against this type of two-faced stance. The problem is that they just don't know what our government is doing. While "the truth will set you free" that only applies if the truth is heard.

ZK UK

pre 15 godina

Sorry to disappoint the US, but Serbia chooses the World. Serbia chooses International Law and what's right.

If the EU/US chose to lose Serbia with its influence and potential in the region for 1.8 million destitute Albanians, then they have to live with the consequences.

Serbia has already chosen the right path and the World is backing us.

Anthony

pre 15 godina

My country, the United States, is singularly responsible for Serbia not being integrated into the EU and Atlantic communities. Just with the Treat of Versailles in WWI that caused the groundwork for NAZI takeover in Germany, US policy and intervention in the Balkans in the 90's has poisoned the well in which we now wish to draw water.

We have alienated a people and a country that were allies in the two world wars, and a people who shunned the Soviet Union during the cold war. Our manipulation of their political system has solidified the radical base, and made the democratic forces of Serbia feel abandoned.

We were the nation that renegotiated with Milosevic in the 90's and brought him legitimacy, we were the country that illegally occupied 15% of a country that posed to military threat to ours without an political solution for the future, and we are the country that continues to blame Serbian policy even though we left Milosevic in Belgrade. His own people through him out, isn't it time that the West, especially the United States, welcomes the Serbian people back to the table of world democracies? We should have learned from Versailles that you do not kick a people when they are down.

I am by no means comparing the Radical party to the NAZI party, but if the American government does not want the radical party in power, it should not leave the Serbian people will little alternative. The atmosphere we have created have allowed the voters of the "Euro Integration parties" to feel isolated and sidelined.

DRAGAN B

pre 15 godina

When the USA was negotiating with the Indiana's for peace and their land. They would say after the talks white man speaks with fork tug EU /USA be carefully Serbia and GOOD LUCK!!

PJD

pre 15 godina

Again we have an article headline trying to confuse people by creating ambiguity between Europe/European - ie the geographical continent and the European Union. Serbia is already a memeber of the OSCE, the CoE, UEFA, Eurovision etc. Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are not members of the EU, but are no less European than any of the members in my opinion.

Benny, Serbia is a democratic country, the countries to its east are democratic. I am afraid neither you nor the people of Serbia (not that they would) can place the country in Asia.

benny

pre 15 godina

I dont get it. Why europe and USA want serbia to be part of EU. Serbia was never part of democratic countries. They belong to east. I would suggest to europe and USA. Leave serbia to decide. I am sure they will decide to be part of asia where they belong. O know that serbia will ba black hol in europe but, we have to accept this. Europe just have to ignore serbia. Their borders have to be strongly protected. There is enoughe roads and connections with middle east. It is hungary romania, bulgaria, Albania, Macedonia, Greece

PJD

pre 15 godina

Again we have an article headline trying to confuse people by creating ambiguity between Europe/European - ie the geographical continent and the European Union. Serbia is already a memeber of the OSCE, the CoE, UEFA, Eurovision etc. Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are not members of the EU, but are no less European than any of the members in my opinion.

Benny, Serbia is a democratic country, the countries to its east are democratic. I am afraid neither you nor the people of Serbia (not that they would) can place the country in Asia.

Anthony

pre 15 godina

My country, the United States, is singularly responsible for Serbia not being integrated into the EU and Atlantic communities. Just with the Treat of Versailles in WWI that caused the groundwork for NAZI takeover in Germany, US policy and intervention in the Balkans in the 90's has poisoned the well in which we now wish to draw water.

We have alienated a people and a country that were allies in the two world wars, and a people who shunned the Soviet Union during the cold war. Our manipulation of their political system has solidified the radical base, and made the democratic forces of Serbia feel abandoned.

We were the nation that renegotiated with Milosevic in the 90's and brought him legitimacy, we were the country that illegally occupied 15% of a country that posed to military threat to ours without an political solution for the future, and we are the country that continues to blame Serbian policy even though we left Milosevic in Belgrade. His own people through him out, isn't it time that the West, especially the United States, welcomes the Serbian people back to the table of world democracies? We should have learned from Versailles that you do not kick a people when they are down.

I am by no means comparing the Radical party to the NAZI party, but if the American government does not want the radical party in power, it should not leave the Serbian people will little alternative. The atmosphere we have created have allowed the voters of the "Euro Integration parties" to feel isolated and sidelined.

ZK UK

pre 15 godina

Sorry to disappoint the US, but Serbia chooses the World. Serbia chooses International Law and what's right.

If the EU/US chose to lose Serbia with its influence and potential in the region for 1.8 million destitute Albanians, then they have to live with the consequences.

Serbia has already chosen the right path and the World is backing us.

Lazo Mihajlovich

pre 15 godina

I ashamed at the arrogance and inconsistence of the government of my country, the US. In this article, the rep cites adherence to the Dayton accords to maintain the territorial integrity of Bosna, while at the same time ignoring UN1244 that grants the same territorial integrity with respect to Serbia/Kosovo.

The American people in general are totally against this type of two-faced stance. The problem is that they just don't know what our government is doing. While "the truth will set you free" that only applies if the truth is heard.

DRAGAN B

pre 15 godina

When the USA was negotiating with the Indiana's for peace and their land. They would say after the talks white man speaks with fork tug EU /USA be carefully Serbia and GOOD LUCK!!

Jovan

pre 15 godina

exactly, ZK!

by the way, who for heavens sake is DiCarlo??? =)

well, the world is a dark place... and Serbia is the light. ;)

but let´s be serious: Serbia is on the side of law, justice, moral and truth...while the others are desperately trying to deceive the rest of the world...

what shows the moral integrity of our albanian co-writers here is the mere fact that they didn´t lose one single word in regard of the hundreds of innocent serbian and even albanian civilians that were killed by the criminal kla-gang...

they even call them "hero´s"

that says it all, on so many levels!

luciano

pre 15 godina

The Serb people when the time comes should vote in a binding referendum.1.Serbia in EU-must recognize Kosovo indep.2.Serbia in EU only together with Kosovo as part of Serbia.Majority rules.End of problem

benny

pre 15 godina

I dont get it. Why europe and USA want serbia to be part of EU. Serbia was never part of democratic countries. They belong to east. I would suggest to europe and USA. Leave serbia to decide. I am sure they will decide to be part of asia where they belong. O know that serbia will ba black hol in europe but, we have to accept this. Europe just have to ignore serbia. Their borders have to be strongly protected. There is enoughe roads and connections with middle east. It is hungary romania, bulgaria, Albania, Macedonia, Greece

claire

pre 15 godina

I just don't understand why any of the former Soviet States and former FRY states want to be a part of the EU/US Dictatorship!

Especially Serbia.....

anti-white-supremacist

pre 15 godina

Dear B92,

until now I've had the opinion that B92 is a neutral information provider, but by placing the comment nr. 9 of Mr. Jovan on Mr. ZK UK and refusing mine, I am very well aware of your stance. So it is for B92 alowed to give one-sided comments in criminal-offence of Albanians, which are partly true and keeping silence about the widely known criminal acts of the Serbian army, police and paramilitaries. This is something to be proud of!!
But it seems part of the Serbian propaganda, which will never prevail over the opinion of people that are against any act of threat against neighbours.
Harald

roberto

pre 15 godina

"If Rosemary is looking for Karadžić she should do so in the US. Waterboard Holbrook and he'll tell you where he is."

i am very sorry to keep repeating this, but as i have already informed my highly esteemed co-posters at b92, there is no karadzic in the US. he dare not enter, because if he did he'd be immediately arrested, and then forced to pay out at least part of the multi-million dollar civil suit damages granted to some of his victims, raped and from concentration camps, in the past decade. yes, not a pretty picture.

i have several times reported his actual whereabouts but nobody there seems to take much notice: he is "hiding" in a very old religious building, bordering the bosnian/montenegro border. for real.

i have also explained that mr. mladic is currently under the desk of one very well known serbian politician, but this may need to slightly change in the current weeks, depending on how the political negotiations go.

sometimes i have to believe that you people are just not interested in finding those 2 gentlemen.

but then i am just a "self-admitted" jew who is "meddling" in serbia's private matters.

by the way, at least in american english, we do not connect the adjectival phrase "self-admitted" to the ethno-religious identity "Jew." it is, however, most appropriate to use "self-admitted" with the very descripive "anti-semite." catch my dift?

roberto from frisco

Jevic

pre 15 godina

If the US, UK & the EU elites wants Serbia to be fully integrated to Europe.then they should RESPECT serbia's territorial integrity. stealing kosovo from them is not the best solution.the atrocities committed by Milosevic is not the fault of the whole serbian nation & people.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

She is of course right. Any idea of Serbia building closer ties to Burkina-Faso, Madagaskar, Sierra-Leone than to Germany, Russia, Ukraina, Hungary is pure insanity. This is called Serbia chosing Europe. Unless, of course, if Germany or Russia is not in Europe but Madagaskar is.

There is of course a dumb or/and mean-spirited minority of political elite who try to sell a "Russia versus Europe", "Ukraina versus Europe" or "Serbia versus Europe".

CERNIK ISTVAN

pre 15 godina

Serbia should choose Europe because Russia is a bad choice because historically there is not a single country/nation that Russia helped into prosperity. To poverty yes!

benny

pre 15 godina

I dont get it. Why europe and USA want serbia to be part of EU. Serbia was never part of democratic countries. They belong to east. I would suggest to europe and USA. Leave serbia to decide. I am sure they will decide to be part of asia where they belong. O know that serbia will ba black hol in europe but, we have to accept this. Europe just have to ignore serbia. Their borders have to be strongly protected. There is enoughe roads and connections with middle east. It is hungary romania, bulgaria, Albania, Macedonia, Greece

luciano

pre 15 godina

The Serb people when the time comes should vote in a binding referendum.1.Serbia in EU-must recognize Kosovo indep.2.Serbia in EU only together with Kosovo as part of Serbia.Majority rules.End of problem

CERNIK ISTVAN

pre 15 godina

Serbia should choose Europe because Russia is a bad choice because historically there is not a single country/nation that Russia helped into prosperity. To poverty yes!

anti-white-supremacist

pre 15 godina

Dear B92,

until now I've had the opinion that B92 is a neutral information provider, but by placing the comment nr. 9 of Mr. Jovan on Mr. ZK UK and refusing mine, I am very well aware of your stance. So it is for B92 alowed to give one-sided comments in criminal-offence of Albanians, which are partly true and keeping silence about the widely known criminal acts of the Serbian army, police and paramilitaries. This is something to be proud of!!
But it seems part of the Serbian propaganda, which will never prevail over the opinion of people that are against any act of threat against neighbours.
Harald

roberto

pre 15 godina

"If Rosemary is looking for Karadžić she should do so in the US. Waterboard Holbrook and he'll tell you where he is."

i am very sorry to keep repeating this, but as i have already informed my highly esteemed co-posters at b92, there is no karadzic in the US. he dare not enter, because if he did he'd be immediately arrested, and then forced to pay out at least part of the multi-million dollar civil suit damages granted to some of his victims, raped and from concentration camps, in the past decade. yes, not a pretty picture.

i have several times reported his actual whereabouts but nobody there seems to take much notice: he is "hiding" in a very old religious building, bordering the bosnian/montenegro border. for real.

i have also explained that mr. mladic is currently under the desk of one very well known serbian politician, but this may need to slightly change in the current weeks, depending on how the political negotiations go.

sometimes i have to believe that you people are just not interested in finding those 2 gentlemen.

but then i am just a "self-admitted" jew who is "meddling" in serbia's private matters.

by the way, at least in american english, we do not connect the adjectival phrase "self-admitted" to the ethno-religious identity "Jew." it is, however, most appropriate to use "self-admitted" with the very descripive "anti-semite." catch my dift?

roberto from frisco

ZK UK

pre 15 godina

Sorry to disappoint the US, but Serbia chooses the World. Serbia chooses International Law and what's right.

If the EU/US chose to lose Serbia with its influence and potential in the region for 1.8 million destitute Albanians, then they have to live with the consequences.

Serbia has already chosen the right path and the World is backing us.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

She is of course right. Any idea of Serbia building closer ties to Burkina-Faso, Madagaskar, Sierra-Leone than to Germany, Russia, Ukraina, Hungary is pure insanity. This is called Serbia chosing Europe. Unless, of course, if Germany or Russia is not in Europe but Madagaskar is.

There is of course a dumb or/and mean-spirited minority of political elite who try to sell a "Russia versus Europe", "Ukraina versus Europe" or "Serbia versus Europe".

PJD

pre 15 godina

Again we have an article headline trying to confuse people by creating ambiguity between Europe/European - ie the geographical continent and the European Union. Serbia is already a memeber of the OSCE, the CoE, UEFA, Eurovision etc. Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are not members of the EU, but are no less European than any of the members in my opinion.

Benny, Serbia is a democratic country, the countries to its east are democratic. I am afraid neither you nor the people of Serbia (not that they would) can place the country in Asia.

DRAGAN B

pre 15 godina

When the USA was negotiating with the Indiana's for peace and their land. They would say after the talks white man speaks with fork tug EU /USA be carefully Serbia and GOOD LUCK!!

Anthony

pre 15 godina

My country, the United States, is singularly responsible for Serbia not being integrated into the EU and Atlantic communities. Just with the Treat of Versailles in WWI that caused the groundwork for NAZI takeover in Germany, US policy and intervention in the Balkans in the 90's has poisoned the well in which we now wish to draw water.

We have alienated a people and a country that were allies in the two world wars, and a people who shunned the Soviet Union during the cold war. Our manipulation of their political system has solidified the radical base, and made the democratic forces of Serbia feel abandoned.

We were the nation that renegotiated with Milosevic in the 90's and brought him legitimacy, we were the country that illegally occupied 15% of a country that posed to military threat to ours without an political solution for the future, and we are the country that continues to blame Serbian policy even though we left Milosevic in Belgrade. His own people through him out, isn't it time that the West, especially the United States, welcomes the Serbian people back to the table of world democracies? We should have learned from Versailles that you do not kick a people when they are down.

I am by no means comparing the Radical party to the NAZI party, but if the American government does not want the radical party in power, it should not leave the Serbian people will little alternative. The atmosphere we have created have allowed the voters of the "Euro Integration parties" to feel isolated and sidelined.

Lazo Mihajlovich

pre 15 godina

I ashamed at the arrogance and inconsistence of the government of my country, the US. In this article, the rep cites adherence to the Dayton accords to maintain the territorial integrity of Bosna, while at the same time ignoring UN1244 that grants the same territorial integrity with respect to Serbia/Kosovo.

The American people in general are totally against this type of two-faced stance. The problem is that they just don't know what our government is doing. While "the truth will set you free" that only applies if the truth is heard.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

exactly, ZK!

by the way, who for heavens sake is DiCarlo??? =)

well, the world is a dark place... and Serbia is the light. ;)

but let´s be serious: Serbia is on the side of law, justice, moral and truth...while the others are desperately trying to deceive the rest of the world...

what shows the moral integrity of our albanian co-writers here is the mere fact that they didn´t lose one single word in regard of the hundreds of innocent serbian and even albanian civilians that were killed by the criminal kla-gang...

they even call them "hero´s"

that says it all, on so many levels!

claire

pre 15 godina

I just don't understand why any of the former Soviet States and former FRY states want to be a part of the EU/US Dictatorship!

Especially Serbia.....

Jevic

pre 15 godina

If the US, UK & the EU elites wants Serbia to be fully integrated to Europe.then they should RESPECT serbia's territorial integrity. stealing kosovo from them is not the best solution.the atrocities committed by Milosevic is not the fault of the whole serbian nation & people.