Hague won't investigate KLA organ trade allegations

Technically this is now "new" investigations and as such the Hague have an obligation to persue what is a clear war crime namely the abduction of civilians out of Serbia and into Northern Albania - something that is not refuted and the Hague have culpability in fully investigating since they have already opened it but not fully persued it - one wonders why ???


If this stands as it does then it is obvious that the Hague are holding true to tehir mission statement - "innocent until proven Serb"!!

Isufi, the sarcastic one, you just can't help yourself, can you? It's easy how these crimes could have gone on with NATO and UN presence, they looked the other way and let it happen, like they did when the K_Albanians went on their rampage in 2004. If these allegations have just now come to public surface, Albanians should cooperate in every way they can, if they have nothing to hide. As for what some commentator here said, only Serbs committed war crimes, then you should really start taking about UFOs, like Ahmet has suggested. Unreal.

But since Carla del Ponte knew of this back around 2001 when a Hague investigation could be opened and she further did not say anything to the families of the missing (she simply told them the missing were all dead), it seems like she should be sued for preventing justice for Serb victims.

The Serbs never got anywhere for cooperating with the Hague - simply kicked in the teeth and having their people die, often under mysterious circumstance, while imprisoned by the Hague.

The only reason that this story will reach a dead end, as do most stories regarding the attrocities commited by americas albanian allies is not that the albanian commited these crimes but rather who were the beneficiaries of it. There are hundreds of sick people in western nations who have recieved a second lease on life because of the murdered serbs and thier stolen organs. SSSSSHHHHHHHHH cover it up and move on! I wonder if the livers and hearts and kidneys the freedom fighting albanians ripped from the bodies of serbs were paid for in dollars or in Euros-probably euros!

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Of course the "hague" won't investigate crimes against Serbs.. is this not a surpirse? There is no such thing as justice when america is involved, when they act like God of this earth.

Hague "tribunal" rest in peace!

Carla Del Ponte's record of conduct toward Serbia suggests a deep anti-Serbian bias. By revealing a bit about the butchery suffered by Serbs in Kosovo she made herself look a bit more more fair at no cost to herself. She knew better than anyone else about the Hague's rule against any new investigations after 2004 and was therefore able to tell the organ harvesting story without any fear that it could result in any new investigation into any of her protected Albanian extremists. The whole story is a tidy way for her to make herself look good.

But, as usual, Carla overlooked a critical detail. The Hague tribunal has said it has been investigating the disappearances of the missing 300+ kidnapped Serbs in an investigation began before 2004 and could be continued now as it is *not* a new investigation. If that "preliminary" investigation ever turned up the facts about Albanian butchery ( Mengele-style) of living and dead kidnap victims, new charges could be *added* to any indictment. Perhaps if the US or the EU would post the same $5 million reward that they offer for Serbian indictees, the Albanians who kidnapped the 300+ Serbs might be arrested. If I were in charge of the Serbian government, I would offer at least $10 million dollars (plus a new identity in a neutral developed country) for a witness providing information leading to the *conviction* of the kidnappers and butcherers of the missing Serbs. That sum would easily be sufficient to get accomplices to testify and reveal the true face of the KLA to the world. It would be the best PR investment Serbia could ever make. While I do believe that the Hague "tribunal" does have an "innocent till proven Serb" approach, that should not stop us from using the apparatus of that organization against the colonialist Western powers that created it.

Ahmet's suggestion that 300 kidnap victims could not be moved around under the watchful eyes of KFOR and UNMIK presupposes that KFOR and UNMIK were actually on the lookout for Albanian kidnappers, criminals and so on. They were not. Thousands of Albanian crimes have gone completely un-investigated.

As for moving 300 bodies around, if the whole world has been able to swallow the story that Serbs in Bosnia could somehow move around and rebury multiple times the bodies of 8,000 alleged Srebrenica victims despite 24hr/7 US satellite and ground troop surveillance, then why can't Ahmet imagine KLA terrorists dragging less than one 20th of that number of Serbian bodies around in relatively un-policed Kosovo?

"Mirsad", you mentioned that being "Kosovan" you doubted that there were any abductions at all. I think that you have damaged your credibility. Not only were there a large number of kidnappings, covered even in the Albanian media, and witnessed by busloads full of Albanians who silently watched their Serbian neighbors being taken off the bus to their deaths, but even a very few lucky targets evaded their kidnappers or were actually released through the paying of ransoms. I met and interviewed a released kidnapping victim. We really have to try to stick to the truth here if this comments section is to have any value, Mirsad. Along the same line, your idea that the KLA was a bunch of villagers defending their homes with rusty guns is absurd. I spent the war in Kosovo as a journalist reporting for Japanese media. I and reporters from CNN, SKY, FOX and dozens of other broadcasters saw and videotaped thousands of KLA fighters in brand new uniforms and carrying military-grade weapons. In Drenica, we observed a march-by conducted by about one thousand crisply uniformed KLA troops equipped with new AK-47s and up to five spare clips of ammo each, as well as anti-tank missiles and mortars. If that is the level of "rusty" old hunting guns that Albanians tended to stow around in the average village, then we have just discovered one of the root causes of the conflict in the region.

Serbian authorities returned bodies of dead Albanians removed from battle sites, and to the best of my knowledge there was never any sign of the harvesting of organs from any one of them. However, in the case of the Serbian kidnap victims missing since 2001 and later, no bodies have been found at all (except for those Serb bones that UNMIK found burned in the notorious KLA oven at Klecka)... leading to speculation that all Serbian bodies were similarly incinerated to hide the organ harvesting.

Carla Del Ponte neither told the Serbian families of the missing, nor the public about the organ harvesting years ago. It would obviously have detracted from the momentum she was trying to develop with post-Milosevic officials in Belgrade by demonizing the Serbian nation. If the world had known that the KLA had been killing cops and postmen, kidnapping and torturing women, children and the aged, and conducting macabre organ removals... US-led anti-Serbianism just might have been overcome. Carla presumably knew that and kept the KLA's secret safe till now. By the way, Carla did not tell the families of the missing, but at least she did not try to blackmail them. I was present (uninvited) at a meeting before the 1999 bombing, when US ambassador William Walker ("Mr. Racak massacre") blackmailed the Serbian families of kidnap victims by telling them that he could not do anything to help them, but then said that if they were willing to go to Belgrade and demonstrate against President Milosevic he would get in touch with the KLA to ask for their relatives to be released. Soon after Walker discovered that a journalist was present in the room and had recorded what he had said, I was told that the Kosovo Mission was about to have me expelled from the region... but the war intervened.

As for the comment above by "EA" about the "liberation war" of the KLA, one has to ask in what way the KLA's many killings of civilians, including fellow Albanians, underprivileged Roma (gypsies), Gorani highlanders and other even smaller minorities constituted a liberation effort. Having reported from Kosovo as a journalist, I saw no sign of any valiant KLA, but a group that hid from battle with soldiers, and instead called in NATO to do its bombing for them. In the case of one unfortunate group of Albanian refugees who disobeyed a KLA order to go to the FYROM border to pose for CNN, the KLA called in NATO bombers that sent 78 of their fellow Albanians into the next world. I arrived at the scene to see the biggest single slaughter of Albanians in the whole war and to dig through the debris of their burned out cars and tractors (seared corpses still at the wheel) until I was able to photograph a piece of the US "smart" bomb that killed them for their disobedience. The KLA was and is ruthless, with a history of treating any and all human life as valueless. Their drug and human smuggling trade, as well as their sex slave business make them natural suspects in any organ harvesting case.

The fact is that there are so many reports from so many sources for this organ-harvesting war crime to be a mere figment of Carla's otherwise colorful imagination. If UNMIK and the Hague don't cover this up fast enough, evidence will indeed be found and the trails will eventually lead back to KLA headquarters and from there to the "government" of Kosovo. And then, all of the NATO leaders who have shaken hands with those terrorists will both figuratively *and* literally have blood on their hands. As for the kangaroo court in the Hague, I say R.I.P. because there was never even the slightest likelihood of getting any justice from them.

Sincerely,

John Bosnitch
Washington, DC
john.b@imcnews.com

In my last comment regarding the organ trafficking issue I may have missed the point. It is not about albanians doing this to serbs. This horrible thing happens here in the west also. Hundreds, if not thousands of bodies have been found along mexicos northern border with the usa. The bodies are often missing key organs and the precision in which those organs were removed points to professional perpetrators. But sadly the authorities and the western media have done little in the way of investigation. There are millions to be made in the illegal trade of human body parts. The Hauge has given weak reasons for not investigating the crimes but how will INTERPOL react-it is directlty within thier jurisdiction and protocol to investigate these crimes but I doubt they will. I also doubt the FBI or other domestic american law enforcement agencies will investigate. There is too much money involved and the people who recieve these organs are often the richest members of thier perspective societies.

the corruption is vast

Princip UK,

Why are you so sure of this abduction? Why didnt Carla Del Ponte mention this to the hague when former KLA members were being held for trial? Why did she mention this only in her book?! Ask yourself that.

Being a kosovan myself, I hugely doubt that there were any abductions since it was only the serbian army whom committed war crimes (i.e. a very developed army against villagers with rusty guns), but you never know what occurs during wars. Its more likely that the serb army in kosovo would carry out this organ trafficking since there are 5 thousand missing kosovans since the ethnic cleansing.

Because Carla Del Ponte mentions this, now you think this is absolutely true and hold into account the whole nation of kosovo for this?!

Not a rational move.

John Bosnitch
Washington, DC
john.b@imcnews.com
(John Bosnitch, 19 May 2008 03:30)

Very “elaborate” analysis John.
Now, I cannot and will not respond to you on the decisions taken by Hague however I would like to elaborate a bit on some of the points you raised.

Before I do so, I would like to raise a point of my own.
John, as a reporter (you) I expected you to be more unbiased therefore I was surprised reading your article.
Then I google’d your name and a bunch of pro Serbian comments popped up (things finally started making sense).
Therefore, I am not going to treat your comment as a comment of a reporter.
By the way, I managed to find a link of your name on youtube (participating in a demonstration of some kind).

Therefore John I will respond to your posting as an Albanian to a Serbian.

John, any crime no matter how small needs investigating no doubt.
If there are any proves on any wrongdoings by Albanians towards their Serbian neighbours the perpetrators should be punished. John,

Albanians have experienced firsthand the “good” neighbours and I am sure that they have not been converted from the victims to perpetrators.

John, though you try to put your opinion in a very elaborate way the fact that you so biased defeats your aim.

John, numbers speak for themselves.
Look at the number of Kosovo Albanian victims, the number of still missing Albanians and then start writing about that.

Albanians silently watching their neighbours taken off to their deaths you say, please tell me that you saw this and you are not using examples from Bosnia (replaced the actors/perpetrators).

John, KLA was exactly that, a bunch of villagers defending their homes.

Now John since you elaborately noticed the KLA fighters with brand new uniforms and brand new AK-47s (with up to 5 spare clips of ammo each), what good is an AK47 against a T55 or M84 tank?

While you were reporting did you “miss” views of M84 and T55 tanks shelling villages from 6 KM distance? I bet you did.
Of course John, this is understandable. Human reaction to events is based on the importance of the event and Albanian villages being shelled must have been down on your list of priorities.

Now back to KLA. Taking in consideration the fire power that Serbian army had in Kosovo, it is not hard to understand that KLA could not provide frontal battle to Serbian forces. As such the guerrilla war had to be taken.
You bluntly joke about the braveness of KLA, referring to them as “group that hid from battle” calling on NATO to do their job.

John, what do you think Serbian ground Forces did?
They waited for their heavy artillery (Tanks, Helicopters and Jet planes) to flatten everything and then send the “scavenging” team. How does this differ, apart from the fact that Serbian tanks were shelling villages and the Serbian scavenging team was killing the unarmed civilians still living?


John please talk about bravery when the fire power of the opposing parties is in par. The battle of Koshare is one example.

As a reporter it seems that you are very misinformed about the Albanian bodies being returned by Serbian authorities. Again, this is understandable since you most likely read (and write) the pro Serbian news (look at the list of missing Albanians and then write please).

And finally you try to say that it was KLA that ordered USA planes to kill the refugees! Please John, tell me how and why. The KLA groups acted regionally. As such the refugees in the convoys would have been their parents, brothers, sisters and children. Are you trying to tell that KLA fighters killed their own children?

In all the honesty John, I find your article very unprofessional. Everything you put is based on your opinion and anti Albanian propaganda. I accept your comment if it is put as an individual but please next time do not use you “reporter card”. This is not Monopoly John.
The “reporter credentials” do not give you the “get out of jail free card”. The truth on the other had does.
Sorry John, you are far from it.

My dear Princip, here we go again with your theory.
Please, explain how in the world 300+people can be moved around in the priod when KFOR and UNMIK officials were sworming all over Kosova?
This is not something you put it in your pocket and hide it. Come on be realistic and tell us all about UFO's.

What a tele-fiasco by Carla del Ponte to denigrate the just liberation war of the KLA.

"it's more likely that serb army in kosovo would carry out this organ trafficking"

Of course, that makes so much sense. A large number of serbs were kidnapped and taken to albania, and it is the serbian army that did the deed! not only is there no logic in that statement, mirsad, but it's completely biased. you are kosovan, by which you are albanian. you accuse serbs of kidnapping their own people, taking them to albania, and selling their organs??? before saying such things, think again, because i think it's pretty clear that there's no rational ground to that arguement. funny how crimes against serbia are not investigated...given the west's view on the country, it's not a surprise. but you cannot deny what is true. and these atrocious crimes against serbia are.

Princip, reread the article. You say technically this is a new investigation, The UNSC (you know the only true authority as most of you like to say since Russia has moved behind you) "forbids" them from opening new investigations after 2004.

Why has the Serbian govt not subpoened Ms del Ponte to question her about her knowledge? Could it be that they do not want to hear her say under oath that there was no credible evidence that this did happen, she only wanted to hype a book.

She says that in 2003 her office was forced to drop any further investigation into the organ trafficing but she remained in office through 2007. That means that she either agreed with the decision or she profited by perpetuating an injustice. Either of which places her credibility at the bottom of the pile.
I would say the only people who take her seriously are the ones who also believe the rhetoric of Kostunica.

mirsad uk,
You assume that it's impossible for Albanians to do any wrong. Clearly they did, as did the Serbs. Serbs have overwhelmingly paid for their crimes, while others go unpuninished. These alleged crimes need to be investigated, as any allegation needs to be investigated. You need to get over your belief Albanians can do no wrong. Moreover, your statement that Serbs were more likely to do those crimes has no basis, as Serbs were not acused of those crimes by Del Ponte, a woman whom indicted plenty of Serbs. You should think before you write.

Dear "blero",

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. I believe that a thorough examination of the facts regarding the Kosovo situation will reveal the illegality of the secessionist effort, its roots in genocidal expulsions of Serbs over the centuries, the role of racist anti-Serbianism in the support of Greater Albania, and the fundamentally undemocratic and murderous role of the US-sponsored KLA in both provoking and amplifying the violence, especially against civilians, in the region. If I had to address this issue by myself it would be much more difficult, so your participation in this search for the truth should prove to be extremely helpful.

Starting with the question of bias... since we are on the Net, let's try starting with Wikipedia:

Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result. All information and points of view have some form of bias. A person is generally said to be biased if a reasonable observer would conclude that the person is markedly influenced by inner biases, rendering it unlikely for them to be able to be objective.

My observation in the Balkans has been that the vast majority of the journalists assigned to the area were not only rabidly biased against the Serbs but that they were selected for and encouraged to maintain such biases even before they arrived in the region and before they had any personal experience of the events taking place there. However, having been born in Canada with one parent who was of Yugoslav origin (that's what most Serbs I knew Serbs called themselves) although not speaking any Yugoslav dialect/language before going to the area as a reporter, I was most conscious of my own need to be certain of my facts before writing anything from the war zones. I therefore spent my first year in the area without filing even a *single* story -- just to be certain that I had a depth of experience and firsthand familiarity with what was going on based on my own observations. To the best of my knowledge, I was the one and only foreign reporter able to subject himself to such a long period of fact verification without any deadline constraints. I deeply thank my Japanese media clients for the freedom that they gave me to bring back the facts. All other journalists were required to start filing reports in conformity with the "received wisdom" within days, or sometimes only just hours, of arriving.

I later wrote a report about the incredible corruption, institutionalized bias and willful journalist belligerency that I observed in that first year on the scene in the conflict:

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Yugoslavia/views/Bosnitch-Bosnia.html

My calls for new rules on journalists to constrain their destructive power in the information age has been cited in several media studies such as this one:

http://www.courses.rochester.edu/homerin/REL247/Class/serbia/noframes/media2.html

The Hague tribunal was fatally flawed by the fact that it did not press criminal charges against any of the hundreds of journalists who used their status as purportedly unbiased observers merely to build the consensus in Western opinion required to unleash the subsequent massive NATO armed aggression in Bosnia and Kosovo (as well as the rest of Serbia). For example, I believe that the journalists who Carla Del Ponte cites as refusing to reveal the sources of their reports about KLA Albanian harvesting of organs from kidnapped Serbs should be arrested and tried for concealing genocide and crimes against humanity. The cloak of "journalist" should never be allowed to shield anyone from either the fabrication of stories or the purposeful suppression of facts needed to try perpetrators of genocide.

So we agree on the fact that the title of journalist should be no defense. In fact, more often than not, I consider it to be a badge of dishonor in this era of military-industrial owned corporate media.

I therefore welcome your desire to speak to me as a Serb, if that is what you prefer. I will speak to you as a fellow human being sharing a desire for coexistence and peace.

Since returning from reporting for over nearly a decade from the Balkans I became active in exposing the transparent lies and biased reporting that I had encountered. I was even consulted by the Japanese prime minister's office to ferret out the many untruths in reports they were getting from NATO. I have never attempted to hide my own thoughts or opinion and have depended entirely on the facts to speak for themselves. I have chosen since to write as an independent to be able to say exactly what I think and to be able to do so without having to conform to the financial and political pressures placed on the mainstream media.

I some years ago summarized some of my comments about the media bias against Serbs in a submission to the New York Times Web site about the reporting of the conflict and I think you might find my remarks informative even today:

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Yugoslavia/views/Bosnitch-NYT.html

Might I ask you to have a glance at these references? I will then return to directly address what I consider to be your generally unsupported claims in your earlier post.

Best regards,

John Bosnitch
john.b@imcnews.com
Washington, DC

(John Bosnitch, 19 May 2008 17:12)

Hi John,

There is a well known fact that everybody is biased towards most of the things (if not all the things).
This happens with everything we eat, everything we drive, where we live, who our friends etc.
However (there is always a however) when you are in the field where the biasness of one can have negative influence it becomes an obstacle.
It simply becomes wrong. If I was to review a car for example, I would never accept to review a Citroen. This is because I just don’t like them and any review of mine would result in wrong information.
Your responsibility is even harder, how do you remain unbiased when you believe in the opposite.
It is something that only you can do.
Do not misunderstand me, I respect your views.
I don’t agree with them but I do respect them.

You did go in-depth on proving that you actually write to prove the western powers wrong.
This now puts you even further from the place where you can see the reality (not mine and not yours as they will always differ – as you know when Kosovo is concerned there is the Serbian and Albanian version of the story). You are so deep on the Serbian side of the story that the middle point (midway between the Serbian and Albanian side of the history) if very far.
Don’t misunderstand me, I don’t expect for you to be converted now and diverge into my version, just stick to the middle.

Based on what you have written it seems that everything that Serbian forces have done in Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo are western lies.
You have put yourself in an environment that you do not want to look any further, and you stick to it.
For example you see KLA as an evil element no matter the facts.
At no point you ask the question what brought KLA or what KLA represents.
In your first sentence of your reply you managed to express your overwhelming hatred against KLA.
Now John, if every Kosovo Albanian accepts KLA as a liberating army, army that tried to fight for freedom of a nation does that mean that all Albanian are terrorists.

This whole sorry saga smacks of 'cover up'. It would be seriously embarassing for NATO/Western media who went to war to fight alongside the KLA, only to find out that their underlings had indeed committed war crimes as it would undermine the whole 'Albanians were good, Serbs bad' spin that has been regurgitated in the media since '98.

Well guess what folks, as I have been saying all along, henious war crimes were committed by all sides, on all sides.

All alegations must be thoroughly investigated but as we have seen from the Oric and Haradinaj cases, if you kill, murder, rape and pillage in behalf of the Empire, you get off scot free. The Hague Tribunal has shown its clear bias towards the Serb/Yugoslav side and must be closed down.

Mladic & Karadzic if they do face justice (and I believe they should be made accountable to their crimes) must be handed over to a court where they will be given a fair trial. Everybody, no matter who they are, no matter what crimes they are accused of have the right to a defence and most imporant of all, a fair trial.

Hello blero,

thank you fort the answer 16# given to so called reporter John Bosnitch. I am sure he didn’t expect it. If you look at his next comment 17 # he has changed the style of writing 180 grade. I googled his name time ago and the fact that he writes in srpska-mreza (propagandistic website) made it clear whether he writes as a reporter or as a Serb.

Let look a little bit at the writing style of the John Serb Bosnitch.

“If that "preliminary" investigation ever turned up the facts about Albanian butchery ( Mengele-style) of living and dead kidnap victims…the Albanians who kidnapped the 300+ Serbs might be arrested”

Clearly he translates this fiction story in true story even by using same names of WWII Nazis in order to link up the Albanians with the darkest history of crimes against humanity although officially and truly the Serbs are the ones who committed the worst crimes in Europe after the WWII. The dose of hate is so high that obviously he seems he is more Serb (with only one parent of ex Yugo) than the pure Serbs. With his long comments which in my opinion are counted for less than nothing he is absolutely no credible and the next time please (blero) ignore his comments.

The point of his comment is that not only Albanian but the entire democratic world works against Serbia by giving birth so called „anti Serbianism“ led by US. While we have seen another picture of reality not only provided by US but also from independent sources, now John Serb Bosnitch offers a very different “truth” based on his long story as a reporter assigned form Japanese media but for the sake of Serbian propaganda. What he is telling right now we saw 9 years ago and your story how you become reporter and how brave and realist you have been, is not worthy anymore? You can write a book like Del Ponte to put there you remains memories and fictions of your life. Everybody is free to express her/his opinion by keeping at the same time the credibility in such level that make us to really believe in the truth and seriousness.

Best Regards,
Endri

One must answer for his crimes. Albanians are not imune from prosecution just because some American officals support them. Not every Serb is bad nor is every Albanian bad. However, what I read here is a lack of ability to accommodate any view that chastises Albanians. If some Albanians indeed did harvest organs, that is a horrific crime, perhaps one of the worst crimes in human history, and that's a long history indeed. I ask Albanians, do you want to be associated with such crimes? Do you really want to defend such people? If you want to one day live as a member of the world community you must reject individuals willing to use humans beings for monetary gain. That's indeed the true question. Serbs, on the other hand have cooperated with war crimes tribunals. Although there are many Serbs who reject the war crimes court, many do not. Hey, we saw Milosevic, a state leader die in custody. That's about as big as it gets. By contrast, when a big Albanian figure was in prison, what did we see but witnessess mysteriously die. Let's all face facts and work together as a world community that all criminals go to jail.

Blero, you are so busy accusing John Bosnich of being biased that you forgot how biased you are yourself.

When someone disagrees with the Albanian point of view they are automatically put in the basket of pro-Serb or biased.

Do you ever accuse people who agree with the Albanian point of view of being pro-Albanian or biased? I don't think so, so before you start throwing accusations around take a look at your own bias and all the other pro-Albanian posters.

We all have a right to our opinion and should not have these accusations thrown at us for simply having the opposite view to you.

Do you see any Serb posters here accusing the Albanian posters of being biased or dismissing their argument as pro-Albanian so not worth considering?

This tactic of shutting people up simply will not work. If you can't debate the issue by offering facts then accusations will not work.

I am quite sure that such allegations are simply fabrications. Nothing like this happened during the war and the Serbs are simply trying to deviate the debate instead of refering the criminals to the hague.

"She explained that previously the tribunal prosecution had carried out a preliminary investigation about the kidnapping of people in Kosovo, but that no sufficient evidence was uncovered to justify the further work of the prosecution on this. "

Read it and read it again my dear Serbs.

The investigation was already made and "there were not sufficient evidence to justify the further work of the prosecution on this."

What do you need more???

You can dream that your wishes become reality but they are only dreams. The FACT is that this is a tale story.

John,
remember writing one time "As a fellow journalist, I can say it has become most tedious to read these biased reports" How true, how true.
Maybe you could co-author Carla's next book. A good title would be "The Fictional Account of the Balkan Wars"
A journalist--really!

The Hague does not investigate propaganda.

Princip,

I have so far considered you more reasonable. Think just for a minute: Carla Del Ponte was the chief prosecutor in the Hague until recently, and she never officially opened the case, even though she had all legal power and means to do so. Why would she write a book in order to discover crimes??? Where is the sense of all this??? Simply, NO SENSE!!!

the Kosovars were very carefull not to kill any serbian civilians,as the whole world was watching them!
Even if they did do this "oragan selling" business, it would be hard to get past the Nato/UN military and you would need refrigeration trucks which were not available! How could some characters make up these stories is beyond God!

(Peggy, 21 May 2008 05:24)

Hi Peggy,

It has been a while hasn’t it?
As always you seem to respond to comments without actually reading them (is this habit of yours).
If you give it only a glance to my comment you will clearly see that I did not request from John to convert to my point of view.
I only asked him to let everybody know that he is writing his comments as a Serbian and not a journalist (in the same way I am writing my comments as an Albanian and not as a mathematician, scientist, historian, economist etc).
What would happen if we all start using our credentials or titles to “give weight” to our comments and “facts”?
Peggy I only ask you one thing. Please read the comments before you respond to them.

What a tele-fiasco by Carla del Ponte to denigrate the just liberation war of the KLA.

Princip UK,

Why are you so sure of this abduction? Why didnt Carla Del Ponte mention this to the hague when former KLA members were being held for trial? Why did she mention this only in her book?! Ask yourself that.

Being a kosovan myself, I hugely doubt that there were any abductions since it was only the serbian army whom committed war crimes (i.e. a very developed army against villagers with rusty guns), but you never know what occurs during wars. Its more likely that the serb army in kosovo would carry out this organ trafficking since there are 5 thousand missing kosovans since the ethnic cleansing.

Because Carla Del Ponte mentions this, now you think this is absolutely true and hold into account the whole nation of kosovo for this?!

Not a rational move.

My dear Princip, here we go again with your theory.
Please, explain how in the world 300+people can be moved around in the priod when KFOR and UNMIK officials were sworming all over Kosova?
This is not something you put it in your pocket and hide it. Come on be realistic and tell us all about UFO's.

Princip, reread the article. You say technically this is a new investigation, The UNSC (you know the only true authority as most of you like to say since Russia has moved behind you) "forbids" them from opening new investigations after 2004.

Why has the Serbian govt not subpoened Ms del Ponte to question her about her knowledge? Could it be that they do not want to hear her say under oath that there was no credible evidence that this did happen, she only wanted to hype a book.

She says that in 2003 her office was forced to drop any further investigation into the organ trafficing but she remained in office through 2007. That means that she either agreed with the decision or she profited by perpetuating an injustice. Either of which places her credibility at the bottom of the pile.
I would say the only people who take her seriously are the ones who also believe the rhetoric of Kostunica.

Technically this is now "new" investigations and as such the Hague have an obligation to persue what is a clear war crime namely the abduction of civilians out of Serbia and into Northern Albania - something that is not refuted and the Hague have culpability in fully investigating since they have already opened it but not fully persued it - one wonders why ???


If this stands as it does then it is obvious that the Hague are holding true to tehir mission statement - "innocent until proven Serb"!!

John Bosnitch
Washington, DC
john.b@imcnews.com
(John Bosnitch, 19 May 2008 03:30)

Very “elaborate” analysis John.
Now, I cannot and will not respond to you on the decisions taken by Hague however I would like to elaborate a bit on some of the points you raised.

Before I do so, I would like to raise a point of my own.
John, as a reporter (you) I expected you to be more unbiased therefore I was surprised reading your article.
Then I google’d your name and a bunch of pro Serbian comments popped up (things finally started making sense).
Therefore, I am not going to treat your comment as a comment of a reporter.
By the way, I managed to find a link of your name on youtube (participating in a demonstration of some kind).

Therefore John I will respond to your posting as an Albanian to a Serbian.

John, any crime no matter how small needs investigating no doubt.
If there are any proves on any wrongdoings by Albanians towards their Serbian neighbours the perpetrators should be punished. John,

Albanians have experienced firsthand the “good” neighbours and I am sure that they have not been converted from the victims to perpetrators.

John, though you try to put your opinion in a very elaborate way the fact that you so biased defeats your aim.

John, numbers speak for themselves.
Look at the number of Kosovo Albanian victims, the number of still missing Albanians and then start writing about that.

Albanians silently watching their neighbours taken off to their deaths you say, please tell me that you saw this and you are not using examples from Bosnia (replaced the actors/perpetrators).

John, KLA was exactly that, a bunch of villagers defending their homes.

Now John since you elaborately noticed the KLA fighters with brand new uniforms and brand new AK-47s (with up to 5 spare clips of ammo each), what good is an AK47 against a T55 or M84 tank?

While you were reporting did you “miss” views of M84 and T55 tanks shelling villages from 6 KM distance? I bet you did.
Of course John, this is understandable. Human reaction to events is based on the importance of the event and Albanian villages being shelled must have been down on your list of priorities.

Now back to KLA. Taking in consideration the fire power that Serbian army had in Kosovo, it is not hard to understand that KLA could not provide frontal battle to Serbian forces. As such the guerrilla war had to be taken.
You bluntly joke about the braveness of KLA, referring to them as “group that hid from battle” calling on NATO to do their job.

John, what do you think Serbian ground Forces did?
They waited for their heavy artillery (Tanks, Helicopters and Jet planes) to flatten everything and then send the “scavenging” team. How does this differ, apart from the fact that Serbian tanks were shelling villages and the Serbian scavenging team was killing the unarmed civilians still living?


John please talk about bravery when the fire power of the opposing parties is in par. The battle of Koshare is one example.

As a reporter it seems that you are very misinformed about the Albanian bodies being returned by Serbian authorities. Again, this is understandable since you most likely read (and write) the pro Serbian news (look at the list of missing Albanians and then write please).

And finally you try to say that it was KLA that ordered USA planes to kill the refugees! Please John, tell me how and why. The KLA groups acted regionally. As such the refugees in the convoys would have been their parents, brothers, sisters and children. Are you trying to tell that KLA fighters killed their own children?

In all the honesty John, I find your article very unprofessional. Everything you put is based on your opinion and anti Albanian propaganda. I accept your comment if it is put as an individual but please next time do not use you “reporter card”. This is not Monopoly John.
The “reporter credentials” do not give you the “get out of jail free card”. The truth on the other had does.
Sorry John, you are far from it.

I am quite sure that such allegations are simply fabrications. Nothing like this happened during the war and the Serbs are simply trying to deviate the debate instead of refering the criminals to the hague.

But since Carla del Ponte knew of this back around 2001 when a Hague investigation could be opened and she further did not say anything to the families of the missing (she simply told them the missing were all dead), it seems like she should be sued for preventing justice for Serb victims.

The Serbs never got anywhere for cooperating with the Hague - simply kicked in the teeth and having their people die, often under mysterious circumstance, while imprisoned by the Hague.

Isufi, the sarcastic one, you just can't help yourself, can you? It's easy how these crimes could have gone on with NATO and UN presence, they looked the other way and let it happen, like they did when the K_Albanians went on their rampage in 2004. If these allegations have just now come to public surface, Albanians should cooperate in every way they can, if they have nothing to hide. As for what some commentator here said, only Serbs committed war crimes, then you should really start taking about UFOs, like Ahmet has suggested. Unreal.

The only reason that this story will reach a dead end, as do most stories regarding the attrocities commited by americas albanian allies is not that the albanian commited these crimes but rather who were the beneficiaries of it. There are hundreds of sick people in western nations who have recieved a second lease on life because of the murdered serbs and thier stolen organs. SSSSSHHHHHHHHH cover it up and move on! I wonder if the livers and hearts and kidneys the freedom fighting albanians ripped from the bodies of serbs were paid for in dollars or in Euros-probably euros!

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Of course the "hague" won't investigate crimes against Serbs.. is this not a surpirse? There is no such thing as justice when america is involved, when they act like God of this earth.

"it's more likely that serb army in kosovo would carry out this organ trafficking"

Of course, that makes so much sense. A large number of serbs were kidnapped and taken to albania, and it is the serbian army that did the deed! not only is there no logic in that statement, mirsad, but it's completely biased. you are kosovan, by which you are albanian. you accuse serbs of kidnapping their own people, taking them to albania, and selling their organs??? before saying such things, think again, because i think it's pretty clear that there's no rational ground to that arguement. funny how crimes against serbia are not investigated...given the west's view on the country, it's not a surprise. but you cannot deny what is true. and these atrocious crimes against serbia are.

Dear "blero",

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. I believe that a thorough examination of the facts regarding the Kosovo situation will reveal the illegality of the secessionist effort, its roots in genocidal expulsions of Serbs over the centuries, the role of racist anti-Serbianism in the support of Greater Albania, and the fundamentally undemocratic and murderous role of the US-sponsored KLA in both provoking and amplifying the violence, especially against civilians, in the region. If I had to address this issue by myself it would be much more difficult, so your participation in this search for the truth should prove to be extremely helpful.

Starting with the question of bias... since we are on the Net, let's try starting with Wikipedia:

Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result. All information and points of view have some form of bias. A person is generally said to be biased if a reasonable observer would conclude that the person is markedly influenced by inner biases, rendering it unlikely for them to be able to be objective.

My observation in the Balkans has been that the vast majority of the journalists assigned to the area were not only rabidly biased against the Serbs but that they were selected for and encouraged to maintain such biases even before they arrived in the region and before they had any personal experience of the events taking place there. However, having been born in Canada with one parent who was of Yugoslav origin (that's what most Serbs I knew Serbs called themselves) although not speaking any Yugoslav dialect/language before going to the area as a reporter, I was most conscious of my own need to be certain of my facts before writing anything from the war zones. I therefore spent my first year in the area without filing even a *single* story -- just to be certain that I had a depth of experience and firsthand familiarity with what was going on based on my own observations. To the best of my knowledge, I was the one and only foreign reporter able to subject himself to such a long period of fact verification without any deadline constraints. I deeply thank my Japanese media clients for the freedom that they gave me to bring back the facts. All other journalists were required to start filing reports in conformity with the "received wisdom" within days, or sometimes only just hours, of arriving.

I later wrote a report about the incredible corruption, institutionalized bias and willful journalist belligerency that I observed in that first year on the scene in the conflict:

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Yugoslavia/views/Bosnitch-Bosnia.html

My calls for new rules on journalists to constrain their destructive power in the information age has been cited in several media studies such as this one:

http://www.courses.rochester.edu/homerin/REL247/Class/serbia/noframes/media2.html

The Hague tribunal was fatally flawed by the fact that it did not press criminal charges against any of the hundreds of journalists who used their status as purportedly unbiased observers merely to build the consensus in Western opinion required to unleash the subsequent massive NATO armed aggression in Bosnia and Kosovo (as well as the rest of Serbia). For example, I believe that the journalists who Carla Del Ponte cites as refusing to reveal the sources of their reports about KLA Albanian harvesting of organs from kidnapped Serbs should be arrested and tried for concealing genocide and crimes against humanity. The cloak of "journalist" should never be allowed to shield anyone from either the fabrication of stories or the purposeful suppression of facts needed to try perpetrators of genocide.

So we agree on the fact that the title of journalist should be no defense. In fact, more often than not, I consider it to be a badge of dishonor in this era of military-industrial owned corporate media.

I therefore welcome your desire to speak to me as a Serb, if that is what you prefer. I will speak to you as a fellow human being sharing a desire for coexistence and peace.

Since returning from reporting for over nearly a decade from the Balkans I became active in exposing the transparent lies and biased reporting that I had encountered. I was even consulted by the Japanese prime minister's office to ferret out the many untruths in reports they were getting from NATO. I have never attempted to hide my own thoughts or opinion and have depended entirely on the facts to speak for themselves. I have chosen since to write as an independent to be able to say exactly what I think and to be able to do so without having to conform to the financial and political pressures placed on the mainstream media.

I some years ago summarized some of my comments about the media bias against Serbs in a submission to the New York Times Web site about the reporting of the conflict and I think you might find my remarks informative even today:

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Yugoslavia/views/Bosnitch-NYT.html

Might I ask you to have a glance at these references? I will then return to directly address what I consider to be your generally unsupported claims in your earlier post.

Best regards,

John Bosnitch
john.b@imcnews.com
Washington, DC

Hello blero,

thank you fort the answer 16# given to so called reporter John Bosnitch. I am sure he didn’t expect it. If you look at his next comment 17 # he has changed the style of writing 180 grade. I googled his name time ago and the fact that he writes in srpska-mreza (propagandistic website) made it clear whether he writes as a reporter or as a Serb.

Let look a little bit at the writing style of the John Serb Bosnitch.

“If that "preliminary" investigation ever turned up the facts about Albanian butchery ( Mengele-style) of living and dead kidnap victims…the Albanians who kidnapped the 300+ Serbs might be arrested”

Clearly he translates this fiction story in true story even by using same names of WWII Nazis in order to link up the Albanians with the darkest history of crimes against humanity although officially and truly the Serbs are the ones who committed the worst crimes in Europe after the WWII. The dose of hate is so high that obviously he seems he is more Serb (with only one parent of ex Yugo) than the pure Serbs. With his long comments which in my opinion are counted for less than nothing he is absolutely no credible and the next time please (blero) ignore his comments.

The point of his comment is that not only Albanian but the entire democratic world works against Serbia by giving birth so called „anti Serbianism“ led by US. While we have seen another picture of reality not only provided by US but also from independent sources, now John Serb Bosnitch offers a very different “truth” based on his long story as a reporter assigned form Japanese media but for the sake of Serbian propaganda. What he is telling right now we saw 9 years ago and your story how you become reporter and how brave and realist you have been, is not worthy anymore? You can write a book like Del Ponte to put there you remains memories and fictions of your life. Everybody is free to express her/his opinion by keeping at the same time the credibility in such level that make us to really believe in the truth and seriousness.

Best Regards,
Endri

"She explained that previously the tribunal prosecution had carried out a preliminary investigation about the kidnapping of people in Kosovo, but that no sufficient evidence was uncovered to justify the further work of the prosecution on this. "

Read it and read it again my dear Serbs.

The investigation was already made and "there were not sufficient evidence to justify the further work of the prosecution on this."

What do you need more???

You can dream that your wishes become reality but they are only dreams. The FACT is that this is a tale story.

Princip,

I have so far considered you more reasonable. Think just for a minute: Carla Del Ponte was the chief prosecutor in the Hague until recently, and she never officially opened the case, even though she had all legal power and means to do so. Why would she write a book in order to discover crimes??? Where is the sense of all this??? Simply, NO SENSE!!!

John,
remember writing one time "As a fellow journalist, I can say it has become most tedious to read these biased reports" How true, how true.
Maybe you could co-author Carla's next book. A good title would be "The Fictional Account of the Balkan Wars"
A journalist--really!

The Hague does not investigate propaganda.

the Kosovars were very carefull not to kill any serbian civilians,as the whole world was watching them!
Even if they did do this "oragan selling" business, it would be hard to get past the Nato/UN military and you would need refrigeration trucks which were not available! How could some characters make up these stories is beyond God!

Hague "tribunal" rest in peace!

Carla Del Ponte's record of conduct toward Serbia suggests a deep anti-Serbian bias. By revealing a bit about the butchery suffered by Serbs in Kosovo she made herself look a bit more more fair at no cost to herself. She knew better than anyone else about the Hague's rule against any new investigations after 2004 and was therefore able to tell the organ harvesting story without any fear that it could result in any new investigation into any of her protected Albanian extremists. The whole story is a tidy way for her to make herself look good.

But, as usual, Carla overlooked a critical detail. The Hague tribunal has said it has been investigating the disappearances of the missing 300+ kidnapped Serbs in an investigation began before 2004 and could be continued now as it is *not* a new investigation. If that "preliminary" investigation ever turned up the facts about Albanian butchery ( Mengele-style) of living and dead kidnap victims, new charges could be *added* to any indictment. Perhaps if the US or the EU would post the same $5 million reward that they offer for Serbian indictees, the Albanians who kidnapped the 300+ Serbs might be arrested. If I were in charge of the Serbian government, I would offer at least $10 million dollars (plus a new identity in a neutral developed country) for a witness providing information leading to the *conviction* of the kidnappers and butcherers of the missing Serbs. That sum would easily be sufficient to get accomplices to testify and reveal the true face of the KLA to the world. It would be the best PR investment Serbia could ever make. While I do believe that the Hague "tribunal" does have an "innocent till proven Serb" approach, that should not stop us from using the apparatus of that organization against the colonialist Western powers that created it.

Ahmet's suggestion that 300 kidnap victims could not be moved around under the watchful eyes of KFOR and UNMIK presupposes that KFOR and UNMIK were actually on the lookout for Albanian kidnappers, criminals and so on. They were not. Thousands of Albanian crimes have gone completely un-investigated.

As for moving 300 bodies around, if the whole world has been able to swallow the story that Serbs in Bosnia could somehow move around and rebury multiple times the bodies of 8,000 alleged Srebrenica victims despite 24hr/7 US satellite and ground troop surveillance, then why can't Ahmet imagine KLA terrorists dragging less than one 20th of that number of Serbian bodies around in relatively un-policed Kosovo?

"Mirsad", you mentioned that being "Kosovan" you doubted that there were any abductions at all. I think that you have damaged your credibility. Not only were there a large number of kidnappings, covered even in the Albanian media, and witnessed by busloads full of Albanians who silently watched their Serbian neighbors being taken off the bus to their deaths, but even a very few lucky targets evaded their kidnappers or were actually released through the paying of ransoms. I met and interviewed a released kidnapping victim. We really have to try to stick to the truth here if this comments section is to have any value, Mirsad. Along the same line, your idea that the KLA was a bunch of villagers defending their homes with rusty guns is absurd. I spent the war in Kosovo as a journalist reporting for Japanese media. I and reporters from CNN, SKY, FOX and dozens of other broadcasters saw and videotaped thousands of KLA fighters in brand new uniforms and carrying military-grade weapons. In Drenica, we observed a march-by conducted by about one thousand crisply uniformed KLA troops equipped with new AK-47s and up to five spare clips of ammo each, as well as anti-tank missiles and mortars. If that is the level of "rusty" old hunting guns that Albanians tended to stow around in the average village, then we have just discovered one of the root causes of the conflict in the region.

Serbian authorities returned bodies of dead Albanians removed from battle sites, and to the best of my knowledge there was never any sign of the harvesting of organs from any one of them. However, in the case of the Serbian kidnap victims missing since 2001 and later, no bodies have been found at all (except for those Serb bones that UNMIK found burned in the notorious KLA oven at Klecka)... leading to speculation that all Serbian bodies were similarly incinerated to hide the organ harvesting.

Carla Del Ponte neither told the Serbian families of the missing, nor the public about the organ harvesting years ago. It would obviously have detracted from the momentum she was trying to develop with post-Milosevic officials in Belgrade by demonizing the Serbian nation. If the world had known that the KLA had been killing cops and postmen, kidnapping and torturing women, children and the aged, and conducting macabre organ removals... US-led anti-Serbianism just might have been overcome. Carla presumably knew that and kept the KLA's secret safe till now. By the way, Carla did not tell the families of the missing, but at least she did not try to blackmail them. I was present (uninvited) at a meeting before the 1999 bombing, when US ambassador William Walker ("Mr. Racak massacre") blackmailed the Serbian families of kidnap victims by telling them that he could not do anything to help them, but then said that if they were willing to go to Belgrade and demonstrate against President Milosevic he would get in touch with the KLA to ask for their relatives to be released. Soon after Walker discovered that a journalist was present in the room and had recorded what he had said, I was told that the Kosovo Mission was about to have me expelled from the region... but the war intervened.

As for the comment above by "EA" about the "liberation war" of the KLA, one has to ask in what way the KLA's many killings of civilians, including fellow Albanians, underprivileged Roma (gypsies), Gorani highlanders and other even smaller minorities constituted a liberation effort. Having reported from Kosovo as a journalist, I saw no sign of any valiant KLA, but a group that hid from battle with soldiers, and instead called in NATO to do its bombing for them. In the case of one unfortunate group of Albanian refugees who disobeyed a KLA order to go to the FYROM border to pose for CNN, the KLA called in NATO bombers that sent 78 of their fellow Albanians into the next world. I arrived at the scene to see the biggest single slaughter of Albanians in the whole war and to dig through the debris of their burned out cars and tractors (seared corpses still at the wheel) until I was able to photograph a piece of the US "smart" bomb that killed them for their disobedience. The KLA was and is ruthless, with a history of treating any and all human life as valueless. Their drug and human smuggling trade, as well as their sex slave business make them natural suspects in any organ harvesting case.

The fact is that there are so many reports from so many sources for this organ-harvesting war crime to be a mere figment of Carla's otherwise colorful imagination. If UNMIK and the Hague don't cover this up fast enough, evidence will indeed be found and the trails will eventually lead back to KLA headquarters and from there to the "government" of Kosovo. And then, all of the NATO leaders who have shaken hands with those terrorists will both figuratively *and* literally have blood on their hands. As for the kangaroo court in the Hague, I say R.I.P. because there was never even the slightest likelihood of getting any justice from them.

Sincerely,

John Bosnitch
Washington, DC
john.b@imcnews.com

mirsad uk,
You assume that it's impossible for Albanians to do any wrong. Clearly they did, as did the Serbs. Serbs have overwhelmingly paid for their crimes, while others go unpuninished. These alleged crimes need to be investigated, as any allegation needs to be investigated. You need to get over your belief Albanians can do no wrong. Moreover, your statement that Serbs were more likely to do those crimes has no basis, as Serbs were not acused of those crimes by Del Ponte, a woman whom indicted plenty of Serbs. You should think before you write.

(John Bosnitch, 19 May 2008 17:12)

Hi John,

There is a well known fact that everybody is biased towards most of the things (if not all the things).
This happens with everything we eat, everything we drive, where we live, who our friends etc.
However (there is always a however) when you are in the field where the biasness of one can have negative influence it becomes an obstacle.
It simply becomes wrong. If I was to review a car for example, I would never accept to review a Citroen. This is because I just don’t like them and any review of mine would result in wrong information.
Your responsibility is even harder, how do you remain unbiased when you believe in the opposite.
It is something that only you can do.
Do not misunderstand me, I respect your views.
I don’t agree with them but I do respect them.

You did go in-depth on proving that you actually write to prove the western powers wrong.
This now puts you even further from the place where you can see the reality (not mine and not yours as they will always differ – as you know when Kosovo is concerned there is the Serbian and Albanian version of the story). You are so deep on the Serbian side of the story that the middle point (midway between the Serbian and Albanian side of the history) if very far.
Don’t misunderstand me, I don’t expect for you to be converted now and diverge into my version, just stick to the middle.

Based on what you have written it seems that everything that Serbian forces have done in Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo are western lies.
You have put yourself in an environment that you do not want to look any further, and you stick to it.
For example you see KLA as an evil element no matter the facts.
At no point you ask the question what brought KLA or what KLA represents.
In your first sentence of your reply you managed to express your overwhelming hatred against KLA.
Now John, if every Kosovo Albanian accepts KLA as a liberating army, army that tried to fight for freedom of a nation does that mean that all Albanian are terrorists.

One must answer for his crimes. Albanians are not imune from prosecution just because some American officals support them. Not every Serb is bad nor is every Albanian bad. However, what I read here is a lack of ability to accommodate any view that chastises Albanians. If some Albanians indeed did harvest organs, that is a horrific crime, perhaps one of the worst crimes in human history, and that's a long history indeed. I ask Albanians, do you want to be associated with such crimes? Do you really want to defend such people? If you want to one day live as a member of the world community you must reject individuals willing to use humans beings for monetary gain. That's indeed the true question. Serbs, on the other hand have cooperated with war crimes tribunals. Although there are many Serbs who reject the war crimes court, many do not. Hey, we saw Milosevic, a state leader die in custody. That's about as big as it gets. By contrast, when a big Albanian figure was in prison, what did we see but witnessess mysteriously die. Let's all face facts and work together as a world community that all criminals go to jail.

In my last comment regarding the organ trafficking issue I may have missed the point. It is not about albanians doing this to serbs. This horrible thing happens here in the west also. Hundreds, if not thousands of bodies have been found along mexicos northern border with the usa. The bodies are often missing key organs and the precision in which those organs were removed points to professional perpetrators. But sadly the authorities and the western media have done little in the way of investigation. There are millions to be made in the illegal trade of human body parts. The Hauge has given weak reasons for not investigating the crimes but how will INTERPOL react-it is directlty within thier jurisdiction and protocol to investigate these crimes but I doubt they will. I also doubt the FBI or other domestic american law enforcement agencies will investigate. There is too much money involved and the people who recieve these organs are often the richest members of thier perspective societies.

the corruption is vast

This whole sorry saga smacks of 'cover up'. It would be seriously embarassing for NATO/Western media who went to war to fight alongside the KLA, only to find out that their underlings had indeed committed war crimes as it would undermine the whole 'Albanians were good, Serbs bad' spin that has been regurgitated in the media since '98.

Well guess what folks, as I have been saying all along, henious war crimes were committed by all sides, on all sides.

All alegations must be thoroughly investigated but as we have seen from the Oric and Haradinaj cases, if you kill, murder, rape and pillage in behalf of the Empire, you get off scot free. The Hague Tribunal has shown its clear bias towards the Serb/Yugoslav side and must be closed down.

Mladic & Karadzic if they do face justice (and I believe they should be made accountable to their crimes) must be handed over to a court where they will be given a fair trial. Everybody, no matter who they are, no matter what crimes they are accused of have the right to a defence and most imporant of all, a fair trial.

Blero, you are so busy accusing John Bosnich of being biased that you forgot how biased you are yourself.

When someone disagrees with the Albanian point of view they are automatically put in the basket of pro-Serb or biased.

Do you ever accuse people who agree with the Albanian point of view of being pro-Albanian or biased? I don't think so, so before you start throwing accusations around take a look at your own bias and all the other pro-Albanian posters.

We all have a right to our opinion and should not have these accusations thrown at us for simply having the opposite view to you.

Do you see any Serb posters here accusing the Albanian posters of being biased or dismissing their argument as pro-Albanian so not worth considering?

This tactic of shutting people up simply will not work. If you can't debate the issue by offering facts then accusations will not work.

(Peggy, 21 May 2008 05:24)

Hi Peggy,

It has been a while hasn’t it?
As always you seem to respond to comments without actually reading them (is this habit of yours).
If you give it only a glance to my comment you will clearly see that I did not request from John to convert to my point of view.
I only asked him to let everybody know that he is writing his comments as a Serbian and not a journalist (in the same way I am writing my comments as an Albanian and not as a mathematician, scientist, historian, economist etc).
What would happen if we all start using our credentials or titles to “give weight” to our comments and “facts”?
Peggy I only ask you one thing. Please read the comments before you respond to them.