gaz - Kosovar, Texasar, Corsacar, Belfastar, I can imagine dozens of these newspeak names established in order to legitimate some new reality. resolution 1244 and thus international law has been broken.
in WWII, cossacks were fighting on the side of the nazis against tito partisans. since spring 1944 there were two divisions in YU, a third division was planned. after the surrender of these troops in Lienz (Eastern Tyrol) on May 10th, 1945, more than 50.000 cossacks were handed over to the Red Army. since then, Cossacks meet every year at 10th of May in memory of their ancestors in Lienz.
Oh no not the cossacks. Next we will probably hear 25 Serbs from the diaspora are coming down. How many Western Serb posters have been to Kosovo and how many are prepared to go and I don't mean in a military capacity but a support of this supposed cultural heartland at grassroots level?
"Kosovars" as you name them, have nothing to offer...since it is Serbia we are talking of, you know?
no Kosovars whatsoever... only your flawed version of phantasy.
the outcome of those elections is interesting indeed, and I really ask myself whether there was some electoral fraud here...but, we will not know that so soon...
anyway, no reason to "sigh" for you, my friend.
UNSC 1244 is still in force, and only some 40 law-breakers are standing in front of a number of states nearly four times so high...
so, your illusions will stay what they always were...
an illusion.
(Jovan, 12 May 2008 09:07)
Jovan if you go to websites like CNN, Reuters,BBC,Euronews
they all mention Kosovar citizenship, the State and The Independent Republic of Kosovo.
Maybe you should go and visit Kosovo yourself and see if that is a Reality or an Illusion.
"Kosovars" as you name them, have nothing to offer...since it is Serbia we are talking of, you know?
no Kosovars whatsoever... only your flawed version of phantasy.
the outcome of those elections is interesting indeed, and I really ask myself whether there was some electoral fraud here...but, we will not know that so soon...
anyway, no reason to "sigh" for you, my friend.
UNSC 1244 is still in force, and only some 40 law-breakers are standing in front of a number of states nearly four times so high...
so, your illusions will stay what they always were...
Kosovars let you have the most freedoms in the WORLD and this is how you repay? For Gods sake you people get Serbian as an official language and dual citizenship with Serbia and this is what you offer.
Kosovar government has only been kind and mature towards these matters whereas the Serbs have answered with violence.
So, 25 cossacks was all Russia could do after all that talk about friendly support.
A country who is sitting in billions has sent some ridiculous aid to the local Serbs (still inferior) to the Western aid.
They have ripped off Serbia with their rushed business deals and will soon look for other partners in the region.
Finally they feel they have more options to play with an independent Kosovo than without one.
From the Caucasian area to an angry Serbia in the Balkans and a guilt-ridden Europe nearby, Moscow is having a great time.
If the Serbs really believe that Russia will reverse this process, they have really understood nothing from their big "brother".
tired of this racism masquerading as a serious blog while people struggle to financially survive and all you fools back capitalism to provide you with answers.ill support any man who puts forward an answer to lift people from their misery and to teach them that it is possible again to live together. down with the racialists!
Cossaks, Ravna Gora, Drazha, what's next?
How about strong economy, social and human development, travel without visas, mutual respect and good relations with your neighbours. You can not have it both ways, make up your minds.
interesting. US word and facts mean soeomthing to Serbs but they still love russia. Kosova is very open to anybody who wants to visit. I am sure anyone who mean bad to Kosova and its people will find the place Hage or hell.
The Cossacks are visiting Serbia. And according to U.N. Resolution 1244 (as well as over 160 countries including Russia, China, India, Spain and Brazil), Kosovo is in Serbia.
For 50 years following WWII, Yugoslavia was controlled by the Communists that vilified their Royalist enemies including spreading lies about the Chetniks. You're not a Communist, ben. . .are you?
A few years back, the leader of the Chetnik movement was posthumously awarded the U.S. Legion of Merit for valor during his struggle against the fascists and the communists during the war. Why would your beloved U.S. award such a prestigious medal to a Nazi collaborator?
ben, this next quote of yours is classic:
"How many movies we’ve all seen as showing the barbarian acts of the collaborationists Chetnicks?"
Hey. . .guess what? Movies are make-believe! This might come as a shock for you but Toby Maquire isn't really Spiderman!
"Excluding the Slavic “Macedonians” I don’t know another nation that has bigger identity problems than Serbs- since 90s."
-clearly then you admit that there is no "Kosovar" nation and don't tell us you believe the illyrian-Albanian hype?
One would have thought that was one hell of an enourmous identity problem for the mythical (european) "Kosova" - unless you are refering to the Bantu speaking African tribe in Kenya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisii_people
Regarding the lies that abound following the communist regime taking power in Yugoslavia in 1945 you should watch the US made movie 'Chetniks - The Fighting Guerrillas' made in 1943 for the real story of Draza heres a NY Times review which tells the facts;
"Initially, some dismissed this movie because of the mistaken belief that the Chetniks collaborated with the Nazis during WWII, but as Michael Lees unequivocally proves in his book The Rape of Serbia, this was actually a myth fed to Churchill by the Communist partisans of Josip Broz Tito, to convince the British prime minister to shift Allied aid away from the Chetniks. The events in this film are thus factual. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide"
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/124425/Chetniks-The-Fighting-Guerrillas/overview
Its obvious that a sense of dread/fear is in your last post regarding Russia and the mighty Cossacks. As you suggest, we are turning them against you and your illegal declaration of independence.
I'm glad you have finally realized that Russia and it's allies are effective in there quest to preserve Serbia and it's rightful borders which include KOSOVO.
Regarding your post:
"And how it comes that for 50 years Drazists and Chetnicks were labeled as collaborationists with the Germans in teh WW 2?
WRONG! Albanians are the Nazi collaborators and history has recorded it alongside your USTACHE allies.
Serbs described in those movies were produced by who? Communist led Tito, Croat/Hungarian(Nazi's too) TITO, who had a vested interest to murder and demonize Serbia's Draza Mihilovich, along with Pavla Djurisic. How could Serbs be Nazi collaborators when Serbs are recognized as the force behind the single largest rescue of downed American Pilots during WW2 and beyond.
THE FORGOTTEN 500 by Gregory Freeman.
Sorry Benji, you can't rewrite you Nazi past and substitute Serbs for Albanian deeds.
All my respect to Cossacks the last defenders of christianity in self-destructive hypocratic sel-identity lost Europe.The last group of white people where family has importance and George Soros type people have no influance.
'Ben', 'Ben', 'Ben'. How skewed your little Albanian version of history is.
If only Draza had come into power, we might have been able to keep Kosovo's population at a sustainable size...
As for the Russians, why on earth would we need to turn them against you? You do a pretty good job of that yourselves.
Draža Mihajlović, the leader of one of Chetnik factions in the Second World War, arrived at the location 67 years ago, "to muster his forces and start fight against fascism".
Why these 25 Cossacks do not visit Belgrade but Pristina.
Kosova was liberated from the Nazi-fascists occupiers by the Hoxha’s partisans (Enver’s from Tirana and Fadil’s from Kosova).
Belgrade was liberated by the Red Army.
These are historical facts- you cannot change them in compliance to your daily political need.
And how it comes that for 50 years Drazists and Chetnicks were labeled as collaborationists with the Germans in teh WW 2?
Now they are shown in different light.
How many movies we’ve all seen as showing the barbarian acts of the collaborationists Chetnicks?
They are not Albanian movies they are Serbian. Now you twist things just like nothing.
Some one in Serbia is lying. Or the guys that made those movies or the today Serb patriots.
Excluding the Slavic “Macedonians” I don’t know another nation that has bigger identity problems than Serbs- since 90s. You still don’t know who was who and who did what. But most of all why you instigate others (Cossasks and |Russian in gen.) against us?
'Ben', 'Ben', 'Ben'. How skewed your little Albanian version of history is.
If only Draza had come into power, we might have been able to keep Kosovo's population at a sustainable size...
As for the Russians, why on earth would we need to turn them against you? You do a pretty good job of that yourselves.
Its obvious that a sense of dread/fear is in your last post regarding Russia and the mighty Cossacks. As you suggest, we are turning them against you and your illegal declaration of independence.
I'm glad you have finally realized that Russia and it's allies are effective in there quest to preserve Serbia and it's rightful borders which include KOSOVO.
Regarding your post:
"And how it comes that for 50 years Drazists and Chetnicks were labeled as collaborationists with the Germans in teh WW 2?
WRONG! Albanians are the Nazi collaborators and history has recorded it alongside your USTACHE allies.
Serbs described in those movies were produced by who? Communist led Tito, Croat/Hungarian(Nazi's too) TITO, who had a vested interest to murder and demonize Serbia's Draza Mihilovich, along with Pavla Djurisic. How could Serbs be Nazi collaborators when Serbs are recognized as the force behind the single largest rescue of downed American Pilots during WW2 and beyond.
THE FORGOTTEN 500 by Gregory Freeman.
Sorry Benji, you can't rewrite you Nazi past and substitute Serbs for Albanian deeds.
All my respect to Cossacks the last defenders of christianity in self-destructive hypocratic sel-identity lost Europe.The last group of white people where family has importance and George Soros type people have no influance.
The Cossacks are visiting Serbia. And according to U.N. Resolution 1244 (as well as over 160 countries including Russia, China, India, Spain and Brazil), Kosovo is in Serbia.
For 50 years following WWII, Yugoslavia was controlled by the Communists that vilified their Royalist enemies including spreading lies about the Chetniks. You're not a Communist, ben. . .are you?
A few years back, the leader of the Chetnik movement was posthumously awarded the U.S. Legion of Merit for valor during his struggle against the fascists and the communists during the war. Why would your beloved U.S. award such a prestigious medal to a Nazi collaborator?
ben, this next quote of yours is classic:
"How many movies we’ve all seen as showing the barbarian acts of the collaborationists Chetnicks?"
Hey. . .guess what? Movies are make-believe! This might come as a shock for you but Toby Maquire isn't really Spiderman!
Draža Mihajlović, the leader of one of Chetnik factions in the Second World War, arrived at the location 67 years ago, "to muster his forces and start fight against fascism".
Why these 25 Cossacks do not visit Belgrade but Pristina.
Kosova was liberated from the Nazi-fascists occupiers by the Hoxha’s partisans (Enver’s from Tirana and Fadil’s from Kosova).
Belgrade was liberated by the Red Army.
These are historical facts- you cannot change them in compliance to your daily political need.
And how it comes that for 50 years Drazists and Chetnicks were labeled as collaborationists with the Germans in teh WW 2?
Now they are shown in different light.
How many movies we’ve all seen as showing the barbarian acts of the collaborationists Chetnicks?
They are not Albanian movies they are Serbian. Now you twist things just like nothing.
Some one in Serbia is lying. Or the guys that made those movies or the today Serb patriots.
Excluding the Slavic “Macedonians” I don’t know another nation that has bigger identity problems than Serbs- since 90s. You still don’t know who was who and who did what. But most of all why you instigate others (Cossasks and |Russian in gen.) against us?
"Excluding the Slavic “Macedonians” I don’t know another nation that has bigger identity problems than Serbs- since 90s."
-clearly then you admit that there is no "Kosovar" nation and don't tell us you believe the illyrian-Albanian hype?
One would have thought that was one hell of an enourmous identity problem for the mythical (european) "Kosova" - unless you are refering to the Bantu speaking African tribe in Kenya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisii_people
Regarding the lies that abound following the communist regime taking power in Yugoslavia in 1945 you should watch the US made movie 'Chetniks - The Fighting Guerrillas' made in 1943 for the real story of Draza heres a NY Times review which tells the facts;
"Initially, some dismissed this movie because of the mistaken belief that the Chetniks collaborated with the Nazis during WWII, but as Michael Lees unequivocally proves in his book The Rape of Serbia, this was actually a myth fed to Churchill by the Communist partisans of Josip Broz Tito, to convince the British prime minister to shift Allied aid away from the Chetniks. The events in this film are thus factual. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide"
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/124425/Chetniks-The-Fighting-Guerrillas/overview
Kosovars let you have the most freedoms in the WORLD and this is how you repay? For Gods sake you people get Serbian as an official language and dual citizenship with Serbia and this is what you offer.
Kosovar government has only been kind and mature towards these matters whereas the Serbs have answered with violence.
Cossaks, Ravna Gora, Drazha, what's next?
How about strong economy, social and human development, travel without visas, mutual respect and good relations with your neighbours. You can not have it both ways, make up your minds.
interesting. US word and facts mean soeomthing to Serbs but they still love russia. Kosova is very open to anybody who wants to visit. I am sure anyone who mean bad to Kosova and its people will find the place Hage or hell.
"Kosovars" as you name them, have nothing to offer...since it is Serbia we are talking of, you know?
no Kosovars whatsoever... only your flawed version of phantasy.
the outcome of those elections is interesting indeed, and I really ask myself whether there was some electoral fraud here...but, we will not know that so soon...
anyway, no reason to "sigh" for you, my friend.
UNSC 1244 is still in force, and only some 40 law-breakers are standing in front of a number of states nearly four times so high...
so, your illusions will stay what they always were...
an illusion.
(Jovan, 12 May 2008 09:07)
Jovan if you go to websites like CNN, Reuters,BBC,Euronews
they all mention Kosovar citizenship, the State and The Independent Republic of Kosovo.
Maybe you should go and visit Kosovo yourself and see if that is a Reality or an Illusion.
tired of this racism masquerading as a serious blog while people struggle to financially survive and all you fools back capitalism to provide you with answers.ill support any man who puts forward an answer to lift people from their misery and to teach them that it is possible again to live together. down with the racialists!
So, 25 cossacks was all Russia could do after all that talk about friendly support.
A country who is sitting in billions has sent some ridiculous aid to the local Serbs (still inferior) to the Western aid.
They have ripped off Serbia with their rushed business deals and will soon look for other partners in the region.
Finally they feel they have more options to play with an independent Kosovo than without one.
From the Caucasian area to an angry Serbia in the Balkans and a guilt-ridden Europe nearby, Moscow is having a great time.
If the Serbs really believe that Russia will reverse this process, they have really understood nothing from their big "brother".
"Kosovars" as you name them, have nothing to offer...since it is Serbia we are talking of, you know?
no Kosovars whatsoever... only your flawed version of phantasy.
the outcome of those elections is interesting indeed, and I really ask myself whether there was some electoral fraud here...but, we will not know that so soon...
anyway, no reason to "sigh" for you, my friend.
UNSC 1244 is still in force, and only some 40 law-breakers are standing in front of a number of states nearly four times so high...
so, your illusions will stay what they always were...
gaz - Kosovar, Texasar, Corsacar, Belfastar, I can imagine dozens of these newspeak names established in order to legitimate some new reality. resolution 1244 and thus international law has been broken.
Oh no not the cossacks. Next we will probably hear 25 Serbs from the diaspora are coming down. How many Western Serb posters have been to Kosovo and how many are prepared to go and I don't mean in a military capacity but a support of this supposed cultural heartland at grassroots level?
in WWII, cossacks were fighting on the side of the nazis against tito partisans. since spring 1944 there were two divisions in YU, a third division was planned. after the surrender of these troops in Lienz (Eastern Tyrol) on May 10th, 1945, more than 50.000 cossacks were handed over to the Red Army. since then, Cossacks meet every year at 10th of May in memory of their ancestors in Lienz.
Draža Mihajlović, the leader of one of Chetnik factions in the Second World War, arrived at the location 67 years ago, "to muster his forces and start fight against fascism".
Why these 25 Cossacks do not visit Belgrade but Pristina.
Kosova was liberated from the Nazi-fascists occupiers by the Hoxha’s partisans (Enver’s from Tirana and Fadil’s from Kosova).
Belgrade was liberated by the Red Army.
These are historical facts- you cannot change them in compliance to your daily political need.
And how it comes that for 50 years Drazists and Chetnicks were labeled as collaborationists with the Germans in teh WW 2?
Now they are shown in different light.
How many movies we’ve all seen as showing the barbarian acts of the collaborationists Chetnicks?
They are not Albanian movies they are Serbian. Now you twist things just like nothing.
Some one in Serbia is lying. Or the guys that made those movies or the today Serb patriots.
Excluding the Slavic “Macedonians” I don’t know another nation that has bigger identity problems than Serbs- since 90s. You still don’t know who was who and who did what. But most of all why you instigate others (Cossasks and |Russian in gen.) against us?
'Ben', 'Ben', 'Ben'. How skewed your little Albanian version of history is.
If only Draza had come into power, we might have been able to keep Kosovo's population at a sustainable size...
As for the Russians, why on earth would we need to turn them against you? You do a pretty good job of that yourselves.
Kosovars let you have the most freedoms in the WORLD and this is how you repay? For Gods sake you people get Serbian as an official language and dual citizenship with Serbia and this is what you offer.
Kosovar government has only been kind and mature towards these matters whereas the Serbs have answered with violence.
Its obvious that a sense of dread/fear is in your last post regarding Russia and the mighty Cossacks. As you suggest, we are turning them against you and your illegal declaration of independence.
I'm glad you have finally realized that Russia and it's allies are effective in there quest to preserve Serbia and it's rightful borders which include KOSOVO.
Regarding your post:
"And how it comes that for 50 years Drazists and Chetnicks were labeled as collaborationists with the Germans in teh WW 2?
WRONG! Albanians are the Nazi collaborators and history has recorded it alongside your USTACHE allies.
Serbs described in those movies were produced by who? Communist led Tito, Croat/Hungarian(Nazi's too) TITO, who had a vested interest to murder and demonize Serbia's Draza Mihilovich, along with Pavla Djurisic. How could Serbs be Nazi collaborators when Serbs are recognized as the force behind the single largest rescue of downed American Pilots during WW2 and beyond.
THE FORGOTTEN 500 by Gregory Freeman.
Sorry Benji, you can't rewrite you Nazi past and substitute Serbs for Albanian deeds.
The Cossacks are visiting Serbia. And according to U.N. Resolution 1244 (as well as over 160 countries including Russia, China, India, Spain and Brazil), Kosovo is in Serbia.
For 50 years following WWII, Yugoslavia was controlled by the Communists that vilified their Royalist enemies including spreading lies about the Chetniks. You're not a Communist, ben. . .are you?
A few years back, the leader of the Chetnik movement was posthumously awarded the U.S. Legion of Merit for valor during his struggle against the fascists and the communists during the war. Why would your beloved U.S. award such a prestigious medal to a Nazi collaborator?
ben, this next quote of yours is classic:
"How many movies we’ve all seen as showing the barbarian acts of the collaborationists Chetnicks?"
Hey. . .guess what? Movies are make-believe! This might come as a shock for you but Toby Maquire isn't really Spiderman!
interesting. US word and facts mean soeomthing to Serbs but they still love russia. Kosova is very open to anybody who wants to visit. I am sure anyone who mean bad to Kosova and its people will find the place Hage or hell.
Cossaks, Ravna Gora, Drazha, what's next?
How about strong economy, social and human development, travel without visas, mutual respect and good relations with your neighbours. You can not have it both ways, make up your minds.
All my respect to Cossacks the last defenders of christianity in self-destructive hypocratic sel-identity lost Europe.The last group of white people where family has importance and George Soros type people have no influance.
"Kosovars" as you name them, have nothing to offer...since it is Serbia we are talking of, you know?
no Kosovars whatsoever... only your flawed version of phantasy.
the outcome of those elections is interesting indeed, and I really ask myself whether there was some electoral fraud here...but, we will not know that so soon...
anyway, no reason to "sigh" for you, my friend.
UNSC 1244 is still in force, and only some 40 law-breakers are standing in front of a number of states nearly four times so high...
so, your illusions will stay what they always were...
an illusion.
(Jovan, 12 May 2008 09:07)
Jovan if you go to websites like CNN, Reuters,BBC,Euronews
they all mention Kosovar citizenship, the State and The Independent Republic of Kosovo.
Maybe you should go and visit Kosovo yourself and see if that is a Reality or an Illusion.
So, 25 cossacks was all Russia could do after all that talk about friendly support.
A country who is sitting in billions has sent some ridiculous aid to the local Serbs (still inferior) to the Western aid.
They have ripped off Serbia with their rushed business deals and will soon look for other partners in the region.
Finally they feel they have more options to play with an independent Kosovo than without one.
From the Caucasian area to an angry Serbia in the Balkans and a guilt-ridden Europe nearby, Moscow is having a great time.
If the Serbs really believe that Russia will reverse this process, they have really understood nothing from their big "brother".
Oh no not the cossacks. Next we will probably hear 25 Serbs from the diaspora are coming down. How many Western Serb posters have been to Kosovo and how many are prepared to go and I don't mean in a military capacity but a support of this supposed cultural heartland at grassroots level?
"Excluding the Slavic “Macedonians” I don’t know another nation that has bigger identity problems than Serbs- since 90s."
-clearly then you admit that there is no "Kosovar" nation and don't tell us you believe the illyrian-Albanian hype?
One would have thought that was one hell of an enourmous identity problem for the mythical (european) "Kosova" - unless you are refering to the Bantu speaking African tribe in Kenya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisii_people
Regarding the lies that abound following the communist regime taking power in Yugoslavia in 1945 you should watch the US made movie 'Chetniks - The Fighting Guerrillas' made in 1943 for the real story of Draza heres a NY Times review which tells the facts;
"Initially, some dismissed this movie because of the mistaken belief that the Chetniks collaborated with the Nazis during WWII, but as Michael Lees unequivocally proves in his book The Rape of Serbia, this was actually a myth fed to Churchill by the Communist partisans of Josip Broz Tito, to convince the British prime minister to shift Allied aid away from the Chetniks. The events in this film are thus factual. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide"
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/124425/Chetniks-The-Fighting-Guerrillas/overview
tired of this racism masquerading as a serious blog while people struggle to financially survive and all you fools back capitalism to provide you with answers.ill support any man who puts forward an answer to lift people from their misery and to teach them that it is possible again to live together. down with the racialists!
"Kosovars" as you name them, have nothing to offer...since it is Serbia we are talking of, you know?
no Kosovars whatsoever... only your flawed version of phantasy.
the outcome of those elections is interesting indeed, and I really ask myself whether there was some electoral fraud here...but, we will not know that so soon...
anyway, no reason to "sigh" for you, my friend.
UNSC 1244 is still in force, and only some 40 law-breakers are standing in front of a number of states nearly four times so high...
so, your illusions will stay what they always were...
in WWII, cossacks were fighting on the side of the nazis against tito partisans. since spring 1944 there were two divisions in YU, a third division was planned. after the surrender of these troops in Lienz (Eastern Tyrol) on May 10th, 1945, more than 50.000 cossacks were handed over to the Red Army. since then, Cossacks meet every year at 10th of May in memory of their ancestors in Lienz.
gaz - Kosovar, Texasar, Corsacar, Belfastar, I can imagine dozens of these newspeak names established in order to legitimate some new reality. resolution 1244 and thus international law has been broken.
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