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Monday, 05.05.2008.

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Schroeder: Kosovo recognition “against Europe’s interests”

Gerhard Schroeder says that recognition of Kosovo's unilateral independence goes against Europe's best interests.

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Jovan

pre 15 godina

hey KS/BS/KV or whatever you wannna be called...

now you are mentioning the number of UN-member states? =)

without provoking you, but do realize that YOU are just emphasizing the importance of being recognized by the majority of the UN?

I leave it to you to think about why... lol.

perhaps you will figure it out, if you try hard.

so much for recognitions, ...I didn´t refer to UN-memberstates, but if you do so, even better! :)

that´s something you won´t see to happen, my dear friends... since there is a majority saying that you are NOT a state.

and, you can of course say that there is something like "Quality" ..but those in the UN would simply laugh at you if they would hear that...

but that too, is something you seem to be too limited to figure that out.

Mr.X

pre 15 godina

“I think that recognition of Kosovo was the wrong step, because it was done too soon.”

The key there is that it was done TOO SOON, meaning it would have happened later.

However, this guy works for Russia and I wonder how much money he got from the Serbian Lobby to say that ;)

Peace

Maks

pre 15 godina

Schroeder is chairman of the Russo-German pipeline consortium Nord Stream.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3314650,00.html

Does it click anything to you?

Pole-ax

pre 15 godina

You kosovars don't seem to understand. Its not 'who' said it but 'what' was said and it couldn't be further from the truth. YEs G.S. is a private person and works for Putin but is all he is saying is what European diplomats privately think. You can only keep a lie going for so long. Iran's just around the corner and the US is digging a deeper and deeper well.

ben

pre 15 godina

Gerhard Schroeder: former Gemran chancellor now Putin's AREA MANAGER ;)

You surely desrve the headline- of course in teh Serbian press;)))

Tymi

pre 15 godina

Schröder´s comments are a typical reaction of former politicians converted in businessman(s). If he would be again Kanzler, his comments would be more visionary as he in fact did in 1999. The problem of Schröder and similar is the antipathy for US pragmatism. Kosovo was, is and will be a European issue. But Europe was not able to resolve this issue and will resolve it without the clear and Realpolitik of US. Schröder and all anti-american voices in EU shall remember that without the US, half of Europe would have now speak German or Russian probably with the geographic line Belgrade, Vienna, Prague, Warsaw etc. Decision on the Russian style as Schröder is trying to sell to the opinion would have have the same negative impact as now with the slight difference that the Serbian MUP and Arkan´s fans would have use a more sofisticated strategy to clean Kosovo. It is time for Schröder to write his memoires and leave others to lead the world.

Estonia

pre 15 godina

Jovan, so far there is in total 192 UN members.
Your calculation 160 vs 38 is wrong.154 vs 38 will be the right one.
Anyway, after june 15 2008 this will be much different.

KV

pre 15 godina

Jovan,

Why must your posts always in some ways provoke others instead of commenting thoughtfully and contributing to an overall discussion?

I am not quiet sure what you are counting (160 + 38 = 198).
The UN has 192 member STATES, not 198.

It does not matter by how many Kosova is recognized, it is quality. We have great allies and they support us and we love them. I don't for one second doubt the geopolitical reason of independence being channeling of Oil + Coal.

You say Serbia is not isolated, I beg to differ, how is it for a Belgradian to get a visa to Switzerland or America? Think about inflation, food prices, etc.

As far as this "expert" says, I don't really give value considering the fact that he is a small rock in a huge ocean.

miri

pre 15 godina

"Unfortunately, the countries of the EU who sided with the US will continue to compound their error.
(Bob, 5 May 2008 17:33)"

Unfortunatenly everyone that speaks against K-Independence is just a "former" official that has no bearing in his/her own current government decision(s). In other words their opinions barely make it in the news stands(other than Serbian press), let alone to have any real effect at all.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

well, calm down my albanian friends... since he is speaking of serbian isolation too, you can rest assured that he is not up to date!

Serbia is not, and will not be isolated. that´s something you can count on.

160 vs. 38 ...who, do you think, is isolated?

Mula

pre 15 godina

And this comes from a man who recently accepted the job to be the head of European operations for Russian oil company Gazprom. A sellout. A man that Germans and Europeans consider a traitor.

I simply laugh at everything he says.

dan

pre 15 godina

he can say what he wants schroeder is a private person and he makes bussiness in russia is not surprising that he says something!

schroeder has send tornados in 1999 against serbia i think he make enough for kosovos independence :-)

Jovan

pre 15 godina

well, calm down my albanian friends... since he is speaking of serbian isolation too, you can rest assured that he is not up to date!

Serbia is not, and will not be isolated. that´s something you can count on.

160 vs. 38 ...who, do you think, is isolated?

miri

pre 15 godina

"Unfortunately, the countries of the EU who sided with the US will continue to compound their error.
(Bob, 5 May 2008 17:33)"

Unfortunatenly everyone that speaks against K-Independence is just a "former" official that has no bearing in his/her own current government decision(s). In other words their opinions barely make it in the news stands(other than Serbian press), let alone to have any real effect at all.

Mula

pre 15 godina

And this comes from a man who recently accepted the job to be the head of European operations for Russian oil company Gazprom. A sellout. A man that Germans and Europeans consider a traitor.

I simply laugh at everything he says.

dan

pre 15 godina

he can say what he wants schroeder is a private person and he makes bussiness in russia is not surprising that he says something!

schroeder has send tornados in 1999 against serbia i think he make enough for kosovos independence :-)

Pole-ax

pre 15 godina

You kosovars don't seem to understand. Its not 'who' said it but 'what' was said and it couldn't be further from the truth. YEs G.S. is a private person and works for Putin but is all he is saying is what European diplomats privately think. You can only keep a lie going for so long. Iran's just around the corner and the US is digging a deeper and deeper well.

KV

pre 15 godina

Jovan,

Why must your posts always in some ways provoke others instead of commenting thoughtfully and contributing to an overall discussion?

I am not quiet sure what you are counting (160 + 38 = 198).
The UN has 192 member STATES, not 198.

It does not matter by how many Kosova is recognized, it is quality. We have great allies and they support us and we love them. I don't for one second doubt the geopolitical reason of independence being channeling of Oil + Coal.

You say Serbia is not isolated, I beg to differ, how is it for a Belgradian to get a visa to Switzerland or America? Think about inflation, food prices, etc.

As far as this "expert" says, I don't really give value considering the fact that he is a small rock in a huge ocean.

ben

pre 15 godina

Gerhard Schroeder: former Gemran chancellor now Putin's AREA MANAGER ;)

You surely desrve the headline- of course in teh Serbian press;)))

Estonia

pre 15 godina

Jovan, so far there is in total 192 UN members.
Your calculation 160 vs 38 is wrong.154 vs 38 will be the right one.
Anyway, after june 15 2008 this will be much different.

Tymi

pre 15 godina

Schröder´s comments are a typical reaction of former politicians converted in businessman(s). If he would be again Kanzler, his comments would be more visionary as he in fact did in 1999. The problem of Schröder and similar is the antipathy for US pragmatism. Kosovo was, is and will be a European issue. But Europe was not able to resolve this issue and will resolve it without the clear and Realpolitik of US. Schröder and all anti-american voices in EU shall remember that without the US, half of Europe would have now speak German or Russian probably with the geographic line Belgrade, Vienna, Prague, Warsaw etc. Decision on the Russian style as Schröder is trying to sell to the opinion would have have the same negative impact as now with the slight difference that the Serbian MUP and Arkan´s fans would have use a more sofisticated strategy to clean Kosovo. It is time for Schröder to write his memoires and leave others to lead the world.

Maks

pre 15 godina

Schroeder is chairman of the Russo-German pipeline consortium Nord Stream.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3314650,00.html

Does it click anything to you?

Mr.X

pre 15 godina

“I think that recognition of Kosovo was the wrong step, because it was done too soon.”

The key there is that it was done TOO SOON, meaning it would have happened later.

However, this guy works for Russia and I wonder how much money he got from the Serbian Lobby to say that ;)

Peace

Jovan

pre 15 godina

hey KS/BS/KV or whatever you wannna be called...

now you are mentioning the number of UN-member states? =)

without provoking you, but do realize that YOU are just emphasizing the importance of being recognized by the majority of the UN?

I leave it to you to think about why... lol.

perhaps you will figure it out, if you try hard.

so much for recognitions, ...I didn´t refer to UN-memberstates, but if you do so, even better! :)

that´s something you won´t see to happen, my dear friends... since there is a majority saying that you are NOT a state.

and, you can of course say that there is something like "Quality" ..but those in the UN would simply laugh at you if they would hear that...

but that too, is something you seem to be too limited to figure that out.

Mula

pre 15 godina

And this comes from a man who recently accepted the job to be the head of European operations for Russian oil company Gazprom. A sellout. A man that Germans and Europeans consider a traitor.

I simply laugh at everything he says.

miri

pre 15 godina

"Unfortunately, the countries of the EU who sided with the US will continue to compound their error.
(Bob, 5 May 2008 17:33)"

Unfortunatenly everyone that speaks against K-Independence is just a "former" official that has no bearing in his/her own current government decision(s). In other words their opinions barely make it in the news stands(other than Serbian press), let alone to have any real effect at all.

Estonia

pre 15 godina

Jovan, so far there is in total 192 UN members.
Your calculation 160 vs 38 is wrong.154 vs 38 will be the right one.
Anyway, after june 15 2008 this will be much different.

KV

pre 15 godina

Jovan,

Why must your posts always in some ways provoke others instead of commenting thoughtfully and contributing to an overall discussion?

I am not quiet sure what you are counting (160 + 38 = 198).
The UN has 192 member STATES, not 198.

It does not matter by how many Kosova is recognized, it is quality. We have great allies and they support us and we love them. I don't for one second doubt the geopolitical reason of independence being channeling of Oil + Coal.

You say Serbia is not isolated, I beg to differ, how is it for a Belgradian to get a visa to Switzerland or America? Think about inflation, food prices, etc.

As far as this "expert" says, I don't really give value considering the fact that he is a small rock in a huge ocean.

Tymi

pre 15 godina

Schröder´s comments are a typical reaction of former politicians converted in businessman(s). If he would be again Kanzler, his comments would be more visionary as he in fact did in 1999. The problem of Schröder and similar is the antipathy for US pragmatism. Kosovo was, is and will be a European issue. But Europe was not able to resolve this issue and will resolve it without the clear and Realpolitik of US. Schröder and all anti-american voices in EU shall remember that without the US, half of Europe would have now speak German or Russian probably with the geographic line Belgrade, Vienna, Prague, Warsaw etc. Decision on the Russian style as Schröder is trying to sell to the opinion would have have the same negative impact as now with the slight difference that the Serbian MUP and Arkan´s fans would have use a more sofisticated strategy to clean Kosovo. It is time for Schröder to write his memoires and leave others to lead the world.

dan

pre 15 godina

he can say what he wants schroeder is a private person and he makes bussiness in russia is not surprising that he says something!

schroeder has send tornados in 1999 against serbia i think he make enough for kosovos independence :-)

ben

pre 15 godina

Gerhard Schroeder: former Gemran chancellor now Putin's AREA MANAGER ;)

You surely desrve the headline- of course in teh Serbian press;)))

Jovan

pre 15 godina

well, calm down my albanian friends... since he is speaking of serbian isolation too, you can rest assured that he is not up to date!

Serbia is not, and will not be isolated. that´s something you can count on.

160 vs. 38 ...who, do you think, is isolated?

Pole-ax

pre 15 godina

You kosovars don't seem to understand. Its not 'who' said it but 'what' was said and it couldn't be further from the truth. YEs G.S. is a private person and works for Putin but is all he is saying is what European diplomats privately think. You can only keep a lie going for so long. Iran's just around the corner and the US is digging a deeper and deeper well.

Maks

pre 15 godina

Schroeder is chairman of the Russo-German pipeline consortium Nord Stream.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3314650,00.html

Does it click anything to you?

Mr.X

pre 15 godina

“I think that recognition of Kosovo was the wrong step, because it was done too soon.”

The key there is that it was done TOO SOON, meaning it would have happened later.

However, this guy works for Russia and I wonder how much money he got from the Serbian Lobby to say that ;)

Peace

Jovan

pre 15 godina

hey KS/BS/KV or whatever you wannna be called...

now you are mentioning the number of UN-member states? =)

without provoking you, but do realize that YOU are just emphasizing the importance of being recognized by the majority of the UN?

I leave it to you to think about why... lol.

perhaps you will figure it out, if you try hard.

so much for recognitions, ...I didn´t refer to UN-memberstates, but if you do so, even better! :)

that´s something you won´t see to happen, my dear friends... since there is a majority saying that you are NOT a state.

and, you can of course say that there is something like "Quality" ..but those in the UN would simply laugh at you if they would hear that...

but that too, is something you seem to be too limited to figure that out.